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Title: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Masha Sha on September 07, 2016, 08:11:19 PM
Let's put aside Putin and his crew (Middle east meddling, Ukraine, Internet-server-free speech freedom). This is only temporary. On a deeper level I am sure there are a lot of folks who don't want to see Christianity reunited or at least have Christians relationships. Take a Spanish grand mother and a Russian one, taint their hair red and watch them with their grand kids without the audio... You will not be able to tell who is what.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: pandher on September 10, 2016, 04:19:30 AM
Their is actually no difference between european and russian people. Its the same bloodline


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: digaran on September 10, 2016, 04:38:09 AM
Who are they?
We always see and hear about them but never actually get to know them. :D

GO TRUMP. :D or Bust.

The earth plates will separate them eventually no need to waste your time guys(I'm talking to them).


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Masha Sha on September 10, 2016, 05:49:17 AM
Their is actually no difference between european and russian people. Its the same bloodline

And Europeans - Russians - Chineses live on the same train line... Maglev - air void... It will always be faster than ships... And could even be faster than planes... Connected to Africa, the Middle East and India...

The mainland continental trade plateform. What are the Americas? A few island in the middle of the ocean whose people decided to destroy worldwide food supply for a quick bucks in the hope of controlling worldwide population through food.

In my book it means war. They are "salting" the fields... Only they use a marginal covert tactics with the naive collaboration of corrupt local farmers.

The strategy of America is to divide as much as possible the mainland by creating as many conflicts as possible...

Mainlanders could be smarter, look for peace, love, stability, harmony and sustainability... And select the few us based corporations allowed to inverse. The rest... Chap11.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: saddampbuh on September 10, 2016, 10:03:05 AM
as part of the same aryan race we should be on the same side and this is why the world needs a trump presidency, he states the obvious that the west and russia have the same interests and should work together, no wonder the (((enemy))) is desperate to stop him at all costs


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: BitLinkInvestments on September 10, 2016, 12:40:57 PM
Their is actually no difference between european and russian people. Its the same bloodline

Absolutely DEAD WRONG!


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Daniel91 on September 10, 2016, 01:28:41 PM
Let's put aside Putin and his crew (Middle east meddling, Ukraine, Internet-server-free speech freedom). This is only temporary. On a deeper level I am sure there are a lot of folks who don't want to see Christianity reunited or at least have Christians relationships. Take a Spanish grand mother and a Russian one, taint their hair red and watch them with their grand kids without the audio... You will not be able to tell who is what.

Christianity united or reunited?
I don't think that such thing ever existed in the history.
First apostles, followers of Jesus, had different ideas about his mission and future of Christianity.
one of them betrayed Jesus.
Between Peter and Paul was misunderstanding about future religious doctrine and because of this, from the very early stage of Christianity, division occurred between East and West Christian church.
After many conferences and meetings this division and distrust became ever deeper and finally those 2 churches separated.Later also protestant churches in the north Europe separated from Rome.
So, Christianity never was one, monolith church and such thing will never happen.
Christian relationship yes but unity, no way.




Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: PremiumCodeX on September 10, 2016, 06:39:21 PM
Russia has a very different suggestion than what the most influential nations within the EU have now. Russia has not only this suggestion, but a greater military and economic power too that is more than the current, most developed EU countries have. If more people consider Russia to belong to Europe, the Russian approach could be the most influential in Europe. Especially now that the current approach of EU does not seem to work as expected.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Masha Sha on September 10, 2016, 06:59:19 PM
Let's put aside Putin and his crew (Middle east meddling, Ukraine, Internet-server-free speech freedom). This is only temporary. On a deeper level I am sure there are a lot of folks who don't want to see Christianity reunited or at least have Christians relationships. Take a Spanish grand mother and a Russian one, taint their hair red and watch them with their grand kids without the audio... You will not be able to tell who is what.

Christianity united or reunited?
I don't think that such thing ever existed in the history.
First apostles, followers of Jesus, had different ideas about his mission and future of Christianity.
one of them betrayed Jesus.
Between Peter and Paul was misunderstanding about future religious doctrine and because of this, from the very early stage of Christianity, division occurred between East and West Christian church.
After many conferences and meetings this division and distrust became ever deeper and finally those 2 churches separated.Later also protestant churches in the north Europe separated from Rome.
So, Christianity never was one, monolith church and such thing will never happen.
Christian relationship yes but unity, no way.




Reunited is maybe a too strong word I agree... But at least no more eastern front millions killed war, iron wall and co. There is no reason for all branches of Christianity (or interpretations) to not live in peace. None teaches the extermination or supremacy over the others. All the past conflicts were more practical and political rather than fundamentally theological (love on other etc etc).

Russia has a very different suggestion than what the most influential nations within the EU have now. Russia has not only this suggestion, but a greater military and economic power too that is more than the current, most developed EU countries have. If more people consider Russia to belong to Europe, the Russian approach could be the most influential in Europe. Especially now that the current approach of EU does not seem to work as expected.

Russia has still a lot of catch up to do... And if the west was not self sabotaging and renuncing what made it great it would be harder for Russia and the rest of the world to catch up (but it would be against United Nations egalization to the low programs)!


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: designerusa on September 11, 2016, 05:45:02 AM
as part of the same aryan race we should be on the same side and this is why the world needs a trump presidency, he states the obvious that the west and russia have the same interests and should work together, no wonder the (((enemy))) is desperate to stop him at all costs
yes, all the western societies are part of the same aryan race but Russia wants to be the only ruler of the whole western area. For that reason, Russia and United States can't meet a common ground. Russia and United States will fight each other till the end of the  western civilization.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Leprikon on September 11, 2016, 10:14:21 AM
Russia, or when not sought to own the world. Why is it ?! Russia already has a very large territory.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Leprikon on September 11, 2016, 10:21:43 AM
Russia has a very different suggestion than what the most influential nations within the EU have now. Russia has not only this suggestion, but a greater military and economic power too that is more than the current, most developed EU countries have. If more people consider Russia to belong to Europe, the Russian approach could be the most influential in Europe. Especially now that the current approach of EU does not seem to work as expected.
Your opinion is very similar to the truth. Rule the world, should be strong and wise leader. If no one else lacks neither strength nor brains, in this case, Russia is rightfully deserves to become a leader in Europe.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: saddampbuh on September 11, 2016, 06:33:52 PM
yes, all the western societies are part of the same aryan race but Russia wants to be the only ruler of the whole western area. For that reason, Russia and United States can't meet a common ground. Russia and United States will fight each other till the end of the  western civilization.
the reason common ground can't be found is jewmerica keeps encroaching on russia's traditional sphere of influence. russia isn't the problem.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/russia_wants_war_look_how_closely_they_put_country_to_our_military_bases.jpg?w=500&h=360
http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/legacygeneric/MajorBases.jpg


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Pwnage on September 11, 2016, 08:14:39 PM
Hello members,

I think Russia is not a problem at all. America had benefits with so many sanctions before Putin got elected. They still have little. Russian empire was at weak spot back then, economically, politically, oligarchy did job. But when Putin was elected, he was preparing for that years ago, he is no sudden president like everyone thinks. After that we all witnessed what America did with their media towards Russia. Basically second cold war. Few month ago when German newspapers published so many documents about Putin and Russia doing sneaky jobs around the globe, few of them knew German newspapers were in possesion of American.So much hatred towards Putin because he spoken about Americans and Europeans military actions around the globe. When Russia grew economically and military now they are threat to Europe and America. Why is that suddenly?America like to see weak countries and Europe is just a dumb puppet. TTIP. Russia always wanted to be a part of Europe, yet they always reject them. But when they do Asia relationship, again Europe and America saying that is a threat. Russia is biggest country on earth, yet this map top precisely shows they dont threat anyone like America and Europe are doing acrossed the globe, implementing "democracy". Europe should benefit from Russia and vice versa, but America is the problem showing them like a threat. Thats why happened Ukraine, direct consequence of that non relationship dictated by America. And someone wrote top we are the same bloodline. Could be east side and south side of Europe. Religions, we were united before, that story of two brothers that became two religions. Check it. Interesting relationship, Europe-Russia.

My humble opinion.

Best regards.  ;)


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Tyrantt on September 11, 2016, 09:26:10 PM
Russia, or when not sought to own the world. Why is it ?! Russia already has a very large territory.

and yet only a medium amount or even small amount is inhabited. Economicaly owning the world, I don't believe the physical/teritorial owning of the world.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Balthazar on September 11, 2016, 09:45:09 PM
Hello members,

I think Russia is not a problem at all. America had benefits with so many sanctions before Putin got elected. They still have little. Russian empire was at weak spot back then, economically, politically, oligarchy did job. But when Putin was elected, he was preparing for that years ago, he is no sudden president like everyone thinks. After that we all witnessed what America did with their media towards Russia. Basically second cold war. Few month ago when German newspapers published so many documents about Putin and Russia doing sneaky jobs around the globe, few of them knew German newspapers were in possesion of American.So much hatred towards Putin because he spoken about Americans and Europeans military actions around the globe. When Russia grew economically and military now they are threat to Europe and America. Why is that suddenly?America like to see weak countries and Europe is just a dumb puppet. TTIP. Russia always wanted to be a part of Europe, yet they always reject them. But when they do Asia relationship, again Europe and America saying that is a threat. Russia is biggest country on earth, yet this map top precisely shows they dont threat anyone like America and Europe are doing acrossed the globe, implementing "democracy". Europe should benefit from Russia and vice versa, but America is the problem showing them like a threat. Thats why happened Ukraine, direct consequence of that non relationship dictated by America. And someone wrote top we are the same bloodline. Could be east side and south side of Europe. Religions, we were united before, that story of two brothers that became two religions. Check it. Interesting relationship, Europe-Russia.

My humble opinion.

Best regards.  ;)
TTIP is just a smokescreen for CETA, nothing more.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 08:07:02 AM
Hello members,

I think Russia is not a problem at all. America had benefits with so many sanctions before Putin got elected. They still have little. Russian empire was at weak spot back then, economically, politically, oligarchy did job. But when Putin was elected, he was preparing for that years ago, he is no sudden president like everyone thinks. After that we all witnessed what America did with their media towards Russia. Basically second cold war. Few month ago when German newspapers published so many documents about Putin and Russia doing sneaky jobs around the globe, few of them knew German newspapers were in possesion of American.So much hatred towards Putin because he spoken about Americans and Europeans military actions around the globe. When Russia grew economically and military now they are threat to Europe and America. Why is that suddenly?America like to see weak countries and Europe is just a dumb puppet. TTIP. Russia always wanted to be a part of Europe, yet they always reject them. But when they do Asia relationship, again Europe and America saying that is a threat. Russia is biggest country on earth, yet this map top precisely shows they dont threat anyone like America and Europe are doing acrossed the globe, implementing "democracy". Europe should benefit from Russia and vice versa, but America is the problem showing them like a threat. Thats why happened Ukraine, direct consequence of that non relationship dictated by America. And someone wrote top we are the same bloodline. Could be east side and south side of Europe. Religions, we were united before, that story of two brothers that became two religions. Check it. Interesting relationship, Europe-Russia.

My humble opinion.

Best regards.  ;)

Russians refused to destroy their own kind with the gmo agenda... It's infuriating to the agents of Monsanto inside the us gov. All people have to surrender to the American food system... And see their people suffer the same health problems as the Americans do. It's a question of survival for America. They can't become the only one impacted by the toxic food depopulation dumbification agendas... What is sad is that if the American patriots decided to eliminate those agents of death they could still save their food system and lessen the damages... But each years that pass is a lost opportunity.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: virtualx on September 12, 2016, 10:18:23 AM
Let's put aside Putin and his crew (Middle east meddling, Ukraine, Internet-server-free speech freedom). This is only temporary.
Why to put this aside? Russia has always wanted to be powerful and push their agenda on the rest of the world ever since 1917.

On a deeper level I am sure there are a lot of folks who don't want to see Christianity reunited or at least have Christians relationships.
Christianity is not limited to geography. There are Christians in the North America, Asia, Africa. That invalidates this argument. The real reason is money and resources.

Take a Spanish grand mother and a Russian one, taint their hair red and watch them with their grand kids without the audio... You will not be able to tell who is what.
Are you certain about that?

It should be easy to tell which is which because they have facial differences. It would be difficult with a Polish and Russian one, but Spanish look very different from Russians.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.Mbf74bbfb9b1b715ec606819fbe06978fo1%26pid%3D15.1&f=1
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.birdsontheblog.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F05%2FRussian-Grandmother.png&f=1


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: mindrust on September 12, 2016, 10:30:27 AM
Spanish people are latinos. (Think about mexicans) Russians and Spanish people do not look alike. Greeks and Russians do not look  alike neither. Greeks do look like Turks most likely. (Not like arab hybrid turks, pure turks, not like mongolians turks neither, more like westernized turks)  Russians do look like Ukrainians or Polish people. Maybe a bit of Estonians or Latvians. Definitely there isnt any Norwegians or Britons in their blood. Germans on the other hand is a difficult area. They are definitely relatives with dutch people, as some call dutches as mountain germans. Germans also became relatives (after the wwii) with turks too.



Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: karmakeddon on September 12, 2016, 11:35:12 AM
It's what they all say. War is the best money making business in the world. Thing is, no one bats an eye when US puts bases in countries that are not even in their own territory. They intrude on governance of other countries' political affairs. Mastermind regime switches with countries that they dont like. At the end of the day, it's all business for US. Russia is doing the same thing, on a smaller scale.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 11:46:49 AM
It's what they all say. War is the best money making business in the world. Thing is, no one bats an eye when US puts bases in countries that are not even in their own territory. They intrude on governance of other countries' political affairs. Mastermind regime switches with countries that they dont like. At the end of the day, it's all business for US. Russia is doing the same thing, on a smaller scale.

And do everything in their power to advance the gmo agenda (tpp and co)... Those oligarchs Americans eating only clean organic while sowing death all around them... When will it be stopped?


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Balthazar on September 12, 2016, 03:43:11 PM
It's what they all say. War is the best money making business in the world. Thing is, no one bats an eye when US puts bases in countries that are not even in their own territory. They intrude on governance of other countries' political affairs. Mastermind regime switches with countries that they dont like. At the end of the day, it's all business for US. Russia is doing the same thing, on a smaller scale.

And do everything in their power to advance the gmo agenda (tpp and co)... Those oligarchs Americans eating only clean organic while sowing death all around them... When will it be stopped?
GMO ban is the first thing which Russia does in every of its newly established protectorates. Russian Federation, Belarus, Armenia, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Transnistria, Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic - all of them have very strict legislation against the GMO food.

https://youtu.be/A47EcCFF5Io?t=11m14s


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Pwnage on September 12, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
Hello members,

So what about separation between Europe and Russia, isnt this main topic? What are the main reason pushing Russia away, NATO doing its best to be the world wide police :)
Europe could benefit from Russia a lot if they maintain relationship at its best in future. Russia has resourceS, minerals, oil, gas everything u wanna. That could be very good trade act if just Europe dont listen USA. About GMO, yea, very clever move by president Putin, producing organic home made foods, and not importing garbage like the rest of the world does, specially Europe. I mean in my country we import vegetables from Brazil, and similar, and we all know what is in Brazil, home of GMO products, and stuff like that, total nonsense.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: karmakeddon on September 12, 2016, 10:59:44 PM
Well my statement correlates to Russia being pushed away by NATO. NATO's biggest supporter and ally is the US. Which means, they will always be biased towards the US. US is a great country, thing is, it's government doesnt play by the rules, thus shafting its own constituents, as well as people across the world.


Title: Re: They absolutely want to see Europe and Russia separated
Post by: Sithara007 on September 13, 2016, 11:36:11 AM
A number of business powers want to separate Russia from the Europe. For example, if the Russian gas exports to Europe decline, then it is going to be beneficial for Qatar. Similarly, if the Russian oil exports to Europe decline, then it is going to benefit Saudi Arabia.