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Title: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Dhanilo on September 13, 2016, 12:22:23 AM
As the Pocketdice Can you explain the fact that appear 5 or 6 times the same number followed? ???


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: actmyname on September 13, 2016, 12:44:14 AM
As the Pocketdice Can you explain the fact that appear 5 or 6 times the same number followed? ???
Variance exists. It's just a bad run (assuming you lost). Don't think that they rig it if you can verify its authenticity. The probability of rolling the same number 5 or 6 times in a row is a non-zero chance.


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: RHavar on September 13, 2016, 01:35:43 AM
I recall that last year (?) there were issues with the pocketdice provably fair scheme, that wouldn't make it actually provably fair. However, I suspect that it's been fixed as I took a glance at the scheme they use now and it doesn't seem broken.

But as always, make sure to take note of a server seed hash, set your own client seed -- and you'll then be able to verify all the games and know for sure if you were cheated or not.


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: DarkStar_ on September 13, 2016, 03:17:58 AM
The chance of one number appearing is around 1/6, as it is a dice. The chance of 6 of the same number in a row (1/6^6) is 0.0000214334705075, or 0.002%, which is possible, just unlikely. Remember that events are independent as well, and rolling a 6 doesn't make your next roll more/less likely to be a different number. Variance is what makes the casino money. It can help you too, like maybe the same number was what causes you to win.


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Bitcoin Marketing on September 13, 2016, 06:38:02 AM
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Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: olubams on September 13, 2016, 08:01:14 AM
In my own opinion, when its a game of chance nothing is impossible just that the chances of somethings happening might be unlikely in some cases. Based on that, I would also want to add to update us with any response you get...


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Pocket Dice on September 13, 2016, 11:45:29 AM
Hey again, Dhanilo!

Please see the table with probabilities of all possible results below:
http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/images/articles/20140409-dice-probabilities.jpg

As you may see, some results have higher chances than others. Getting a 7 is more likely than getting a 12.

Chances of getting a 12 six times in a row are 0.03^6 = ~0.00000007%, though chances of getting a 7 six times in a row are much more likely: 0.17^6 = ~0.00241376%.



Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: amacar2 on September 13, 2016, 02:56:00 PM
Seem like pocketdice is offline or have some problem with their server so can't try it to see how many times it will return same number. But for sure it only include 12 numbers in total so chance of getting same number is high. And as explained above chance of getting any number is usually high for like 6,7 and 8 so chance of getting these number repeated is very high.


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Pocket Dice on September 14, 2016, 10:19:42 AM
We're back online finally, guys! You may now go check the number distribution yourself :)


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Barcode_ on September 14, 2016, 03:32:50 PM
The same number that appear 5-6 times is quite common in pocketdice, I know someone that roll the same number for around 12 times, And his reaction is the same as you now.


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: amacar2 on September 14, 2016, 03:46:44 PM
We're back online finally, guys! You may now go check the number distribution yourself :)
Yes now seem working, played few round and all rolls gone smoothly however played with fun balance and almost lost all given free credits.  ;D


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: olubams on September 14, 2016, 04:03:45 PM
Hey again, Dhanilo!

Please see the table with probabilities of all possible results below:
http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/images/articles/20140409-dice-probabilities.jpg

As you may see, some results have higher chances than others. Getting a 7 is more likely than getting a 12.

Chances of getting a 12 six times in a row are 0.03^6 = ~0.00000007%, though chances of getting a 7 six times in a row are much more likely: 0.17^6 = ~0.00241376%.




Good to see youre here responding to this. I want to encourage more pro activeness in handling this kind of issue because if not, it could lead to loss of goodwill... My own opinion...


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Dhanilo on September 15, 2016, 02:26:24 AM

but I wanted to see you guys proving this by Rolls system because the number 5 has 11 % chance in 1 roll , 6 rolls would be 0.11 ^ 6 . What becomes impossible in a random system , whatever it is .


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Pocket Dice on September 15, 2016, 09:16:27 AM

but I wanted to see you guys proving this by Rolls system because the number 5 has 11 % chance in 1 roll , 6 rolls would be 0.11 ^ 6 . What becomes impossible in a random system , whatever it is .

How do you want us to prove it? Basically there's probability on one side and our provably fair system (that was MUCH improved lately) on the other.


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: Pocket Dice on September 15, 2016, 09:23:05 AM

Good to see youre here responding to this. I want to encourage more pro activeness in handling this kind of issue because if not, it could lead to loss of goodwill... My own opinion...

Yes, we're always open for discussion!


Title: Re: I want a PocketDice explanation
Post by: robinH on September 21, 2016, 01:27:24 PM
Stop playing at pocketdice.io, they are a scam and if you win big, you will never get paid.

Be warned!

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