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Title: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 13, 2016, 07:57:59 PM
I just built a small play toy with spare parts which I can play with mining on.  I have an NVidia GeForce GTS 250 & an NVidia NVS 310 video cards in this machine.  I am looking to set up the GPU mining and the option for GPU mining is not available on minergate.  I am looking to mine BCN.  Is there anyone who can guide me, for I am not to good with the computer programming part of this all.  I may need step by step directions.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 14, 2016, 01:54:18 AM
Please, any assistance with this would be great!  I do not completely understand all of this but I am willing to learn and do not know where to start with this.  Even guidance to the correct person for help would be great.  Thank you in advance.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Redrose on September 14, 2016, 05:13:16 AM
First, I need to know the OS and the compute versions of those cards. The OS is easy to know, but the compute version is much harder. Please try to find it on Nvidia website.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 14, 2016, 08:17:36 PM
I am using Windows 8.  I am not sure on the video cards though. I have looked through all the information I can find online and I cannot seem to find the compute you are looking for on the video cards. I am sorry I do not know where to look on this.  If someone could just tell me a card I could get that would work if these will not work, that may work also.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on September 14, 2016, 08:24:46 PM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/$".



Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 14, 2016, 09:36:01 PM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


I really mine the BCN and not much else on there, so would you recommend one over the other two?  This is just a storage computer I keep remote files on and in the mean time the miner is going to help make up some of the loss!  Let me know what you think.  Also, do I have to do anything when I plug those cards into my computer or will the program automatically recognize them?


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 14, 2016, 09:39:12 PM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


Let me change the script here a bit!!  I am not looking for cards priced that much.  I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize!  Thank you in advance.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on September 15, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
1) I don't mine BCN nor do I recall ever having heard of it.
  I have no data to base a recomendation on.
2) "smaller" cards mine so little they're just not profitable - any income they DO make gets swamped by the TOTAL SYSTEM energy burn.

 If you're looking for less expensive cards that are worth mining with at all, look at the older AMD HD7870 and bigger 7xxx series cards, anything less is going to be a total waste of money. The last 7870 I bought cost me $80, and they've dropped noticeably since then as the RX 480/470 were introduced a few months later. You might be able to get a HD 7950 in your stated price range by now.
 Down side - they're a lot more power-hungry than the current generation cards.

 Also, Windows 8 is not generally reguarded as worth using on a mining machine - too many issues.
 Upgrade to Win 7, downgrade to Win 10, or move to a LINUX based option (Ububtu/XUbuntu 14.04 is probably the most-used OS for mining with, though Windows might be able to argue the point).


 Why the heck are you using a consumer version of Windows for a bloody file server in the first place?
 You want something RELIABLE and STABLE in an OS for any sort of a file server.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Redrose on September 16, 2016, 06:15:30 AM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


Let me change the script here a bit!!  I am not looking for cards priced that much.  I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize!  Thank you in advance.

Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months.

For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 16, 2016, 09:30:25 PM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


Let me change the script here a bit!!  I am not looking for cards priced that much.  I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize!  Thank you in advance.

Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months.

For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10.
I have to agree with the windows 8 deal.  I have windows 8 in there now and it seems that I am only getting half my hash rate as my windows 10 computer and I could not figure out why!  I guess I am going to downgrade to windows 7 or do you think I should upgrade to windows 10?  I am running a 266Mhz quad cpu with 8GB.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on September 16, 2016, 10:13:22 PM
I personally consider Windows 10 a DOWNgrade.
IMO go with 7, it has issues but nearly as bad as 10 has.

 For mining, though, LINUX overall is a better choice - but it does have a bit of a learning curve if you've never worked with it before.


 750ti isn't really worth mining <edit> ETH </edit> with any more, the CARD may have a low power cost but the total SYSTEM power draw overwhelms the small amount of mining a 750ti can do on ANYTHING.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: SuchFlex.com on September 17, 2016, 04:47:03 AM
I have found Digibyte-skein to be the best price/watt for Nvidia GPUs. Also, it's a more popular coin, traded on Poloniex, profitable to mine at average prices 45-50 sat, and seems to go up above 60 sat on a regular basis.  If you are patient with your trades then it's not hard to trade in your DGB on the peaks.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Redrose on September 17, 2016, 11:10:43 AM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


Let me change the script here a bit!!  I am not looking for cards priced that much.  I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize!  Thank you in advance.

Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months.

For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10.
I have to agree with the windows 8 deal.  I have windows 8 in there now and it seems that I am only getting half my hash rate as my windows 10 computer and I could not figure out why!  I guess I am going to downgrade to windows 7 or do you think I should upgrade to windows 10?  I am running a 266Mhz quad cpu with 8GB.

Then go with Windows 7. That's what I use and I never had any problem. Some people are getting problems with Windows 10 Annuversary, so go with what's reliable. If you want some tips about which GPU to take ask me I'll help you depending of your budget.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 19, 2016, 02:08:23 AM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


Let me change the script here a bit!!  I am not looking for cards priced that much.  I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize!  Thank you in advance.

Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months.

For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10.
I have to agree with the windows 8 deal.  I have windows 8 in there now and it seems that I am only getting half my hash rate as my windows 10 computer and I could not figure out why!  I guess I am going to downgrade to windows 7 or do you think I should upgrade to windows 10?  I am running a 266Mhz quad cpu with 8GB.

Then go with Windows 7. That's what I use and I never had any problem. Some people are getting problems with Windows 10 Annuversary, so go with what's reliable. If you want some tips about which GPU to take ask me I'll help you depending of your budget.
Now that I am about to downgrade, I can not find my WINDOWS 7 KEY CODE!!!!!   I have one benefits that others do not, I am not paying for my power when it comes to mining!!  I am using my office setup to have a miner running off my storage computer.  I just figured if I dump a few bucks into a ok card, I can make a few extra bucks on the side!!  I am also using this as a learning class.  I want to learn more about this.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 19, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
Right now, the best options (depending on which coin and depending on if you're more worried about hash/watt or hash/$) would be the AMD RX 480 / RX 470 (pretty much a tossup between those two) and the NVidia GTX 1070.

 The AMD pair wins on most coins, but there's a couple spots the NVidia rocks even on "hash/watt".


Let me change the script here a bit!!  I am not looking for cards priced that much.  I know I will not make much with smaller cards, but I am looking for a card priced around $50-100 which I can plug in and the system will recognize!  Thank you in advance.

Then, take a 750 Ti if you want to put that low. That's the cheapest "good" card, where you won't lose money and will achieve ROI in a few months.

For your previous post, then, Windows 8 is the worst I think. I don't know it at all and most people use Windows 7 (as me) or Windows 10.
I have to ask, is there a difference between the Nvidia and the Gigabyte versions of this card?  I am not to familiar with the hardware and what the differences are, but it looks like the Gigabyte uses the Nvidia GPU, so would that make it the same card?


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on September 19, 2016, 09:09:40 PM
Nvidia makes the GPU for ALL Nvidia based cards by ANY manufacturer.
Same goes for AMD and AMD based cards.

 It's what the manufacturer does after that on board design, cooling design, choice of memory, etc that makes a big difference in "is this a good MINING card".

 There are often cards using the "reference design" by other manufacturers, but most cards use a manufacturer-specific modification or complete redesign, and some of those are night-and-day BETTER than the reference design.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 19, 2016, 09:46:53 PM
Nvidia makes the GPU for ALL Nvidia based cards by ANY manufacturer.
Same goes for AMD and AMD based cards.

 It's what the manufacturer does after that on board design, cooling design, choice of memory, etc that makes a big difference in "is this a good MINING card".

 There are often cards using the "reference design" by other manufacturers, but most cards use a manufacturer-specific modification or complete redesign, and some of those are night-and-day BETTER than the reference design.

I just ordered in the ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB GDDR5.  Think I will be able to do anything worth doing with this card??  It did not cost much, but it is a start when all the computer is doing is sitting there waiting for people to access it for file storage, maybe 2 times a day.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on September 19, 2016, 10:15:34 PM
For ethereum, it's a 3-4 MH/s card.

 Can't speak to much else, as my pair of 750Ti cards are in gaming machines and run moowrapper on their "downtime".



Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 20, 2016, 04:22:25 PM
For ethereum, it's a 3-4 MH/s card.

 Can't speak to much else, as my pair of 750Ti cards are in gaming machines and run moowrapper on their "downtime".


What is moon wrapper?  If it is something with bitcoin, do you think it would do any good with only one 750ti?  I thank you in advance, for I am learning more and more by the day.  I tried to look it up with not much luck in understanding what it is.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on September 20, 2016, 09:17:56 PM
Moo Wrapper is a BOINC project in conjunction with the long-running Distributed.Net project

 It's not really about mining, as even a well-optimised setup would be doing good to break even vs electric usage when collecting GridCoin.

 Only reasons I point my gaming machines at it during offtime is that it's got small work packets that handle being interrupted without issues, and I have been a VERY long time distributed.net participant.



Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on September 22, 2016, 01:39:37 AM
Once I get this card in, is there anything I need to do other than installing the card into my computer in order to start GPU mining on minergate?


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on October 04, 2016, 08:41:32 PM
Will miner gate recognize a NVIDIA and a AMD if in the same system or should I stick to the same type cards in the same system.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: knightkon on October 04, 2016, 08:58:31 PM
For ethereum, it's a 3-4 MH/s card.

 Can't speak to much else, as my pair of 750Ti cards are in gaming machines and run moowrapper on their "downtime".


Hey, I installed the 750Ti i got and I am only pushing 1.35M/s when mining ETH.  I am using miner gate because I do not know how to set up anything else.  Is there some setting I need to change to get 2-3 MH/s?


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: anorganix on October 05, 2016, 01:12:54 PM
With a 750Ti (I had the 2 GB version) I would mine Neoscrypt, it still gives about $0.2 - $0.3 daily profit.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: EnacDomains on October 05, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
So what's the final word on coin to mine with a 390 card?


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: anorganix on October 05, 2016, 06:08:08 PM
:) This is an Nvidia GPU thread, but if I were you I'd still be mining ETH/EXP. Don't take my word for it, it's just an oppinion.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on October 07, 2016, 12:51:59 AM
I believe I was running qtminer when I had my 750ti cards working ethereum.

 Genoil or that Doubleminer thing might do better.


 I tried Minergate once - VERY poor hashrates on anything I tried it on, and a royal PAIN to configure. IMO ignore it as it's junk.


 You might want to look into the Nicehash miner stuff, I've not had the time to play with that yet.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: calculatorduck on October 07, 2016, 04:52:42 AM
Nvidia cards, with the exception of the 10xx series have problems mining ETH on Windows. When I did it, I needed to use an older driver and then a miner compiled for CUDA 6.5 and then it will work. I don't know what your hashrate would be, but I'm sure a lot better than what you're getting now.

I suggest you read through this thread- https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/ which details Genoil's CUDA miner for ethereum, there's also a thread right here on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368785.0

I was getting about 14mh/s with a GTX 760 but this was months ago so I'm sure it's lower now.


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: QuintLeo on October 07, 2016, 06:51:43 AM
Nvidia cards, with the exception of the 10xx series have problems mining ETH on Windows. When I did it, I needed to use an older driver and then a miner compiled for CUDA 6.5 and then it will work. I don't know what your hashrate would be, but I'm sure a lot better than what you're getting now.

I suggest you read through this thread- https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/ which details Genoil's CUDA miner for ethereum, there's also a thread right here on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368785.0

I was getting about 14mh/s with a GTX 760 but this was months ago so I'm sure it's lower now.

 The issues were with mining on Windows 10.

 Windows 7 has never had these issues.

 With that said, mining on LINUX is a lot more stable.



Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: calculatorduck on October 07, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
Nvidia cards, with the exception of the 10xx series have problems mining ETH on Windows. When I did it, I needed to use an older driver and then a miner compiled for CUDA 6.5 and then it will work. I don't know what your hashrate would be, but I'm sure a lot better than what you're getting now.

I suggest you read through this thread- https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/ which details Genoil's CUDA miner for ethereum, there's also a thread right here on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368785.0

I was getting about 14mh/s with a GTX 760 but this was months ago so I'm sure it's lower now.

 The issues were with mining on Windows 10.

 Windows 7 has never had these issues.

 With that said, mining on LINUX is a lot more stable.



OP said he was on Win8. I can say from experience that the same problems on 10 exist on 8. I was getting 3mh/s on Win8 with my old 760 until I rolled to the older drivers and used CUDA 6.5, then I hit 14mh/s mining ETH.



Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Newton90 on October 07, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
can anyone tell me please,what cpu must i buy for 5-6 gtx 1060 - pentium,i3 or i5?

thanks


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: cptfisher on October 08, 2016, 11:25:42 AM
celeron is also fine. cpu does not matter while mining


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Nikolaj on October 08, 2016, 12:31:08 PM
can anyone tell me please,what cpu must i buy for 5-6 gtx 1060 - pentium,i3 or i5?

thanks

Given that cpu mining it's a waste of time/power/money, you can easily find a decent dual core with at least 3MB L2 cache. A general celeron with an MSRP of 60/70 bucks it's sufficient; what matters it's the motherboard, and for 6 VGA's you need to use good models, with a good tipology of risers.



Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Newton90 on October 10, 2016, 09:11:11 AM
can anyone tell me please,what cpu must i buy for 5-6 gtx 1060 - pentium,i3 or i5?

thanks

 what matters it's the motherboard, and for 6 VGA's you need to use good models, with a good tipology of risers.



what can you tell me?asus b85 trooper is good(for 5 cards)?


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Nikolaj on October 10, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
I wouldn't load 75*5W on a pcb that isn't designed to support these loads (Max A scenario, useful if you plan to implement RX480's)

It seems capable, but who knows in the long term?

You should opt for rock solid designs, like the asrock h81 pro btc. Otherwise you should seek for a motherboard with auxiliary 6 PIN/molex connectors (better the first tipology).


Title: Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
Post by: Newton90 on October 10, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Max A scenario

better the first tipology

i'm not a geek,and what mean "A scenario" and "first typology"?