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What do you think is the more risky option to pop your coins?  How fast would be the roi?   ???

If you are wise enough and if the HYYIP is still new you can invest to it and withdraw it after roi. But i do prefer gambling at all dice games or betting games because you have really a chance to win and loose but the only thing is you wouldnt be scam but you only loose your money in playing  ;D

I think both have the same levels of risk, HYIP's however being less fair.
While in casino, you are risking your own money for the win from a well situated casino owner. He (the owner) knows all the risks and numbers.
HYIP investment means that you will win money of some poor fellow, that invested in the wrong time and place. IMO, it is a lot better for the conscious to bet at the casinos.
Win multiplier may be a bit smaller than HYIP but at least you are not supporting obvious bloodsuckers and thief's. (excluding unfair casinos)   

To be honest, I feel that joining HYIP is more profitable than gambling - provided you know the 'rules' to win the game*. However it is much risky as compared to gambling on trusted platform like PrimeDice or Roll.in.

* I do not mean that I know the 'rules'. What I am trying to say is that the learning curve to win a HYIP/ponzi is much easier than gambling dice, sports or whatever.

Joining HYIP may be profitable especially if you are one of the people running it. Of course you have close to zero chance to profit if you are just a regular fall guy joining the campaign. But I agree with you that with gambling it is even more difficult to profit.

there is no way to know what are the risks involved when you join a HYIP , but in gambling at least you know what's going on
also people think that if you are an early comer in a HYIP you will make money , but that's not a rule of thumb

in general financially both of them are bad , but I would choose gambling cause by doing that you are supporting legit sites and you know that you are not being scammed

For Christ sake... hyip schemes are insane... you can burn your money without see a movement just a suposed "winning" stuff that many people always are talking about and sayinf that is mess. Casino or gambling online can mix lucky and skill... some game like poker involves much more skill than luck so you can will little money here and there in slots, etc... but nothing is so stupid than put money in hyip schemes... it's well proved in gambling section.

You compare apples with oranges.
Gambling is supposed to be a way to spend some time, to to target ROI.
Most HYIP are scam. There is a very good chance you never get your "investment" back, whatever you do. The rest are just tools to scam others, while they last. At some point any HYIP has to end.

My vote is on gambling. If you have some luck, they at least are fair and give you your money.

Hyip is more risky than gambling your money in a casino for me because you'll never know what will happen to your money once you've made a deposit you might not even get your money back. The roi on gambling depends on how lucky you are in your gambling session
in my sports betting i've made 300% return during the olympics.

i think the more risky one is gambling, in gambling you can spend and lost unlimited, but in HYIP you only going to lose the amount that you invest and then it takes a day or more to lost in HYIP, in gambling you only need few minutes to become bankrupt, so gambling is more dangerous than HYIP

Joining in HYIP are more risky than gambling , and gambling is better than HYIP because there are chance that you could double or maybe more your bitcoin there when in hyip's you dont have control on your bitcoin where you could 100% lost your bitcoin in a minute because of the wrong move you made.

Both are risky but Hyip has extra risk of loosing money before making withdrawal can happen anything like site can disappear or owner can run as usually happens. In gambling you have risk of loosing by playing but you are not robbed or loose money other way. You win you take cashout or you loose simply. Hyip is more risky than gambling in my opinion as well.

Both have risks. HYIP, if in early stages, you could ROI right away, since they havent taken a lot of money yet. If you join towards the end though, your wallet will never feel a drop of deposit in there. In gambling, it's risky as well. Less if you know how to play the odds or when to sit out or fold. That's for card games. If its about dice, it's all about luck.

for me joining HYIP is more risky than gambling because in gambling if i had lost my money i do know the reason that i'm aren't lucky on that day but HYIP obviously these things will ruin many people because there is no chance to bring your money back if you lost it

joining hyip if you get entered in the wrong timing but if you join first you have opportunity to earn regarding to gambling in casino luck will be what you need.

Both are risky but hyip is more risky than to play in any gambling casino, in gambling we have control over our funds but investing into any hyip program we can lost our money any time because there is unknown owner behind the scene, but gambling is little better than hyip.

Both has risk but Id rather to play on casino gambling than joining in a HYIP or ponzi scheme.

There's no such thing as luck in investing in ponzi scheme since owners control all the possible outcome. Don't be fooled with those high returns promise in just a short period of time.

But on the brighter side, it's better to find other ways to earn bitcoin. There are some way/s that worth to try with risk involved.

Join in HYIP are not prohibited where you can lost your bitcoin 100% and you can even get your roi in HYIP sometimes it takes 3-5 hours before the HYIP site are turining into scam, if i have a choices between gambling and hyip i will definitely choose gambling it's much safer than hyip.

there is no ROI that you can count on in a risky business like gambling or HYIP.
also the risks are not easily measurable in these unpredictable fields.

but as for the risks you can change the chance of winning hence the risk in games like dice with changing the odds for example and reach the same level of risk.

but in general i think it is a lot better to take a chance on a dice site with a 2x multiplier (50% chance) rather than investing in a hyip with 2x return. because if you lose in dice you will lose fair and square but if you lose in hyip you lose to a scumbag who scammed you.

so do i mate i rather to play gambling inside casino and risk my btc at my own than joining ponzi and let others to play with my btc although both are riskier much better to risk it by myself and control how much i can lose or win.

It also depends on the situation I do. If I really need the money, then I prefer gambling in the Casino. As a result we get can be directly taken whenever we want to. If joining in the HYIP then it takes some time to get the profit.

HYIP is very risky in all format even it's new or established, it can collapse any time and we can lose our funds there, on other side gambling is also risky but not like the hyip program, even in gambling with sports betting we have some chances to make profit if we are wise with our choice.

There are hyip site that claiming to be running for couple of weeks or more. How was that?  Why there are still people joining if it was a scam?

to me gambling is more risky than hyip. in gambling there is no limit in gambling you can lose a lot of money in gambling while in hyip you can lost only a limited amount of money in a particular time and then you have to wait 24 hours for next round.

in HYIP you almost guaranteed up to 90% that your investment will gone for nothing.
while in gambling you still have a better chance at 49-51 percentage.
gambling is risky , HYIP is like just giving away your money.

For me, the most risky option is gambling in casino. Because you can easily lose your money in a second, but you can get fast ROI on this one. In the other hand, HYIP also risky, because HYIP always ended with scam.

I think that HYIP investment is more risky but it will double your money without doing anything and there's such a big bonus if you have a referral which investing big amounts of bitcoins . The risky is you don't know if your money will comeback or just they run your investment.
Gambling in casino risk is on the game that you don't played well also it is a fast games which you will end for almost about ang 30mins to 1 hour depend on what game .if you lose you lose but if you have skill and good stratedgy well that is good .your money will be doubled or tripled.

Anyone really can defy who is more riskier at them and i woukd provably select those hyips since that platform are no assurance for investor to earn some profits if they invest at any of those and all of hyips these days are scam and im expecting many people would really agree what i am saying that they are scam, and its better to gamble(in moderation) since we are the one whos gonna play and knows how to get rid those odds and can easily get out if we don't feel lucky on some games.

In my own opinion either both ways are not ethical process of getting some amounts. You may lose on gambling which happens most of the time while you also lose in HYIP because i believe that they are all ponzi

Based on what I know, they are both risky but for me HYIP is even more risky. Some HYIP has information that it is not easy to understand that is why some are not joining it. Gambling has strategy that is good for some who are really into it and some of the techniques could be learn even by researching.

Hiyp is high risk!
gambling is good

This two things are  different  in some aspects but they do have the same risk  of  lossing your  money.  Gambling  could able to  reach 100% in no time or even  more  if youre  lucky enough , in  hyips  it would take  time to reach roi  lets say for   how many days   and  most  of them are  just scams which  they dont let you   reach that day and thats the reality of   hyips and also to gambling  its  a fast way  to earn  but  you could  lose  in a  blink of an eye.

both have equally risk but also have different side because HYIP born and exist only for took money from their investor because all HYIP will end become scam and Mr ponzi create this only for scam many people but gambling even have bad influence but gambling exist because some people want to test their lucky even some of them become addicted but gambling slightly better rather than HYIP and for those who very lucky during their gamble activities i'm pretty sure they had already got good impact

It's both risky but joining HYIP is the most risky at all you will lost your btc 100% just like on my experience . well in gambling in casino will have more profitable but still risky if you're not lucky enough. besides gambling in casino gives you more experience that you'd never feel in your life. that's my opinion but all of us that has a experience in hyip you've better stay out of joining HYIP and make more profitable option there's a lot out there :)

In my opinion both of the option are same when we are talking about a risk , gambling has a high risk because you can lose you money within an hour as well as in hyip but for me i would rather choose gambling than dealing with hyip i will be considered an idiot if I will be deceived by those scammer and I think I will be more frustrated if i will lose my btc from hyip .

Ofcourse investing in any hyip sites is more risky because its automaticaly scam you and run away your bitcoins. Gambling is giving you a chance to give you atleast a good profit. Gambling also can be play for fun. Hyip sites have no fun at all. Once you invest.to it, dont expect for them to return your investments. It just give a heartache.

Joining HYIP is more risky than gambling in my opinion. There is no chance to get profit from HYIP while with gambling, even the chance is so low, we still can have some profit from it or at least we can have fun while doing it. I got scammed by the HYIP things couple times in the past and I promise wont do it again.

join HYIP is certainly more risky, because the chance of winning is very small and at any time could be a scam. unless, the HYIP it can survive long enough around one month and it could said be better than casino.

while the casino would have a greater chance of winning if you are a good player with a good strategy.

Even it is not recommended, but I think investing in new HYIP after some investigations is better than gambling, because in the first case the possibilty of restoring your money is bigger than gambling, unless you want to gamble with small odds, in this case gambling might be better but more boring.

Gambling is better way to work for your own money unlike joining HYIP's which is very doubtful that they can be trusted. HYiP's are totally scam and will not just try to run away from investors but certainly they does. It is more trusted to play a gambling game and risk your bitcoins with it rather than entrusting your bitcoin to HYIP's or let's say donating it to them.

But I do not see any differences between playing our own or investing into others program.
Because, in both our bitcoin goes out of our control and only if we are extremely lucky we may get back our bitcoins.

The worst thing about HYIP programs must be they are giving fake promises for multiplying our bitcoins whereas with gambling we are accepting the risk and still we are going for it.

I think than joining an HYIP is more risky because most are scam (for example the ones that promise to multiply for 2 or 3 your bitcoins on 24 or 72 hours, and the other ones have big risk of loosing your investment. Gambling on a casino have its risks too but you can stop when you want.

It is their job by using sweet words in able to fool people and to get certain investors and its embarrassing to say that I've been fooled by those hyip scam programs when I was still new with bitcoin.


They are all certainly scams and even they will build trust for paying people for a lot of years. For us, who already know their scheme will remain in our minds that they are scams.

I would just go for gambling with a casino rather than joining hyip.

They are both almost equal, but I fine HYIP's more fun and you can make a more informed gamble when you make it so using bitcoin. Since in a HYIP the last few guys are the one who get defaulted on, you can always follow the wallet and see if its worth it to jump in on the pool.

For me it is risky on HYiPs sites knowingly you cannot control your money you will just invest on ut and lets hours and days pass for you to make it double and when it terms of doubling Gambling is more faster the roi ,but you need a good stratedgy or luck to win.

Well then If you are good advertiser of HYIPs referrals you will gain much more money on it that's the way more are advertising than spending on gambling it is the same but nore on you will need to win and play your money with your own hands.

I do agree that gambling is better option because at least people enjoy those games and have fun even though they lose money. But in those high yield investments, people just scam you for sure and you will not enjoy any fun or profit so it is the worst thing to do without bitcoins. Don't ever invest on those programs.

Both are risky. In HYIP many says it can be profitable if you will only join those newly created site and wont invest too much but on the other hand. The chances of getting scammed is more higher than casino.

Joining in hyupe is more risky but if you have option then i will choose investment in casinos there are sure that you are going to bankroll and in roi you don't really sure if your money will return to you full and your income so. In investment in hyips if you don't invite you don't have income :P

HYIP is not trusted in any kind even if it's newly created or establish nobody knows when they will run out with money, that is why I think only insiders can get some payments there, gambling is only risky but not scam like that.

If you want to earn money none of those is a good option but if you really cannot pick any other option but those 2 then I will pick gambling since at least you can get some fun out of it, while with HYIP you will just lose all your money.

Too bad for you dude I guess you have  joined to that certain HYIP late.  Actually in HYIP you can really earn your profit, this is when you do registered at them earlier because basically HYIP gets the funds from the new users coming so when you do came earlier you can surely benefit unethically.

when you gamble at a casino you can check their fairness and make sure that they are not scamming you. so in other words you are doing it with risk on a place that is not ripping you off.

but when you give your money away to a hyip. you are begging for a ripp off and a ripp off you will get because they are scams and everyone knows it.

This is a simple question to answer and that is HYIP are far more risky then gambling in a casino only because almost all HYIP's like 99.9% of them are all scams. Yes there can be some scam casinos as well but do your research and find the right casinos that have good reviews. I've lost money many times in HYIP's and since I have learned my lesson to not join any other HYIP no matter how good someone says it is because in the end they all turn scam.

Both are risky but there is a big difference :
HYIP : you cant control your money, 99% will turn to a scam.

Gambling : You can control your money, the chance to turn to a scam is lower especially if you gamble on a trusted gambling site.

Yes, they are all scammed thats why i've said that the chances of getting scammed is higher in HYIP. But we cant deny the fact that there are people earning profit in HYIP by joining in those fresh site coz we know that is their purpose paying when they are still new and run away.

While in gambling the chances of getting scammed is pretty low but the amount you can lose is way higher. Some are lossing more than 100btc in gambling and havent see a person lossing 100btc in HYIP yet.

Both are high risk, but in gambling you can get fun cause gambling is fun activity and can become addiction and you can control your money too, stop your gambling when think is enough or you get lose, but in HYIP almost HYIP turn in scam 99,9% and all your investment in HYIP will lose, dont try both if you not ready to lose you money

You should   not really  try  both this  if   you  love  your  bitcoins because these  things   would surely sip  out   your  precious  bitcoins but  in the selection  i would  prefer  gambling  rather than  investing  on those   hyips because   in gambling  you could still entertain yourself  even though  you are lossing as  long  you  know  what  youre doing you should be  fine and you  must manage  your  money well , unlike  on  hyips  when you  put all in  your  money and the next day they ran away. Its such a waste.

joining a HYIP is like making bets on a non provably fair dice site and with a multiplier of 9900X but return of 2x because you have the tiny chance of the big multiplier to get paid back but at the same time you are only being paid back based on the small multiplier.

so if you want to try HYIP maybe it is better if you try dice with 2x multiplier instead!

Joining HYIP is worst think you can choose, profit from hyip isnot depending on you, while you are investing in hyip or ponzi sites, you are holly depending on owner and dont know when will become scam and loose your money.

and while gambling, loose or win is depending on your luck and skills, if you will gamble with brain and gains some skills, you can make good profit.

HYIP is more risky because you do not have a chance to win, while in gambling especially in a casino you will enjoy the game and at the same time you will also win if you are lucky. With HYIP you cannot be lucky here as the moment you put your money you are already unlucky.

both have risk i think i wouldn't recommend to do both if for other people. Even i gambling too, gambling for myself so i wouldn't blame someone if i lost , maybe you can try trading, that is low risk than gambling or HYIP

Giving recommendations  are not  bad  though  but   its  your  decision  not  to  suggest  anyone  because   you dont want to be  blame. I agree with you  trading  would be a better  recommendation  rather  than  on those  two things because   the risk  involve  on gambling and   hyip are big  which is  not  ideal  to do  if  you dont want   to  lose   your bitcoins.   Trading is risky  but  you could able to  trade smart.

So the most good way to tell them is to tell this three kind of investments and let them pick what they like for sure it will be gambling and trading rather than a HYIPS in this way you will not blame if they lose their money you just suggested .

Trading without any experience also gambling there is also very high risk to lose money so quickly. Everything what we do without any knowledge in trading could be very risky. HYIP is very risky investment but if anybody choose to invest in legit casino than it has chance to get profit.

I think HYIP is more risky because of the fact that you don't have the chance to get out of it once you deposit your money. You also cannot fasten the process of you getting your ROI except for doing referrals which is time consuming.

In gambling, you can stop whenever you want. What would happen to your coins depend on your decisions and you don't have to wait long to get profits. You can stop when you're starting to lose money in gambling while in HYIPs, you can't take out your money once you feel that the site is turning into a scam.

HYIP is more risky because for sure it will run when many people invested on it and you can't chase the owner of it because of unknown identity so it is much better to go gambling as it is pure luck and you can think of any strategies to increase the chance of winning. I once tried an HYIP and luckily been reading so much articles that exposing HYIP sites and saying to avoid it.

This  is  what  im thinking too and   i totally agree with you. Even this two things would  surely lose  up your  money  but   they  have   differences regarding  on reaching roi and  fast  up actions. As you said  on hyips  it would really takes time  before you get  roi and   theres no chance you could  able to get  your   investments back unlike  on  gambling which  you do  have control  on your funds  and  its really up  on your decisions on which actions  you would  made.

That is the actual and common situation made by hyips owner they are always making another investment websites in order to repeatedly commit the same thing they did which is stealing the money of those people who put some amount to that certain investment site although most people know that hyips owner will run away with their money they still dealing with it despite that they are always complaining that they have been scammed .

I think HYIP can only be less risky if you do referrals and nothing else since you're not risking any money at all, you're just investing time and effort. The earnings that you'll get would come from all the referrals that you have. Otherwise, investing your money in it would mean total loss for you. HYIP sites run away whenever they want and I don't recommend them at all. Gambling is much better than HYIP because you can easily cash out your money in gambling sites even both of them are totally risky.

Both of these methods are risky and you can not measure how exact risk they are. Your money can blow away after a second even you gamble your join HYIP. In my opinion, i think gambling is more dangerous because you can not know when you will lose the game. Anyway, if you want to become rich, stay away from both of them, find a job and earn some salaries with it

yes i am also agree with you, as both the equally risky but HYIP is really unfair therefore i will like to go with casino where you are really win from a system or from well know gambler,

Both are risky. But i prefer to gamble than to join HYIP because in HYIP once you invest your money you will not be able to get it back unless the program ends but almost all the program of HYIP are scam before it ends. Unlike in gambling you can win or you can lose but you can withdraw your money anytime you want.

You missed the most important thing in gambling is fun and entertainment. In gambling, you may lose money, but at least one will enjoy those games. But in HYIP investments, you simply lose all your money and don't have a chance to have fun also. Those are 100% scam programs so don't waste your money in investing such programs instead just enjoy these gambling games.

There is no guarantee of getting the money back even after the program ends.I mean how often do we come across hyips which successfully deliver what they promise ?

Provided the website has short withdraw durations.Have seen people waiting for their withdrawals since ages.The volume is high of course.

HYIP programs are much more risky because there is one way direction and you need to be one of the very lucky who joins at start and then succeeds to take withdraw. Gambling is also risky but all depend on your luck and on you to make or break. HYIP where you hand over your money to some people under your greed. Casino gambling is less risky in comparison with HYIP.

Thanks for stating the same mentioned in 100 other pages of the forum.

Now that's something new.Never knew casinos are less risky in comparison with HYIP's.  :-\

Casino games are -ev and you cannot make money long term, you will lose money if you try to play in casino trying to make a living out of it. Only casino games that can be controlled with skill is live poker or sports betting if they offer sports betting.

Hyips are also long term -ev. Majority of HYIP models are pyramid scheme and eventually they won't pay you.

Invest in sports handicapping service that has won long term. I have been with bettingresource.com for years and they are by far the best investment opportunity for anyone with a bankroll of 5k to 250k.  I make a living betting their picks with their money management. But you will need good books like pinnacle to bet their picks. Most other books will kick you out or limit your wager if you bet only their picks.

Both are very risky, but HYIP is riskier than Gambling. In gambling we can expect some profit, If we play skill games I am sure we will make money. But in HYIP it's not like that don't expect anything just invest and wait. If you are lucky and won means sometimes, you will struggle a lot to take withdraw your winning. So now tell me which one is better for you.

it should be obvious that HYIP is the least safe option for using your bitcoins because it is a type of scam not an investment and you will end up losing whether you go in the first or the last person to invest.
and i say it is even better to gamble than to invest in a HYIP because you have a better chance of winning in a bet.

but if you are looking for investment and ROI then invest in something good, since you posted in this board then it should be a casino bankroll.

Never invest with hype, it will just take your money, it was design that way so do not get fooled of the good return. Put in mind that the better the return the riskier it was as an investment. Always put in mind that it's better to invest safely even slow income as long as steady.

Actually invest in hyip is more like to win the lottery as they are offering so high return percentage which impossible to get from normal type of business, that is the reason it attract the people more to make invest into that kind of programs even most of them are aware they are going to lose their money.

everything that offering you something that 'too good to be true' are actually scam , be smart to choose a place to invest. HYIP are the biggest bullshit you shouldn't deal with. gambling are far better , and have a fun factor on there.

According to Me There are Same Risks Involved in Both Investment Ways Because I'm Hyip You can Lose Your Money if the Hyip Site  Stop Paying and On the Other Hand In Gambling If We Win First Time Them Greed Comes into Our Mind and We Put a Higher Bet and Then We Lose Our Huge Money...
So I Don't Prefer You Hyip Sites Or Gambling......

I think same as both has risks. In HYIP, mostly it turned into scam after several weeks and months when funds dries out. In gambling,you are making your bet and chances are you might lose or win. It depends on your luck. For me, I think better in gambling as long you know how to control your temper and enjoy the game.

HYIP has actually a higher risk than gambling in casino. HYIP returns are low compared to the risk you are taking as the owner can run away with the money in any day he likes. You have a slighter less even odds for winning which is a lot better than HYIP that pays a few percentage daily.

i think HYIP is more risky depend on gambling site because the ages of the site itself is depend on how much the member make deposit and as far as i know, the website is usually online in just about a month and after that the payment will become pending. i know about this because i have bad experience in the past. so i think its better make money from gambling although in gambling have the risk but we know that gambling site is last longer than HYIP site.

Both things are risky and   should  not   be  considered  to  do  or invest  on these things because  you are  just wasting your  money.  Somehow  on  gambling  you could  lose   your  money  on  but  you  do  gain entertainment and  you could able to stop anytime when  you see  that you are  losing  up too much  unlike on  hyip which  you cant  get back your  money  if you already  putted  into the site.

When you make deposit in hyip you don't have control over your money any more, and your roi depends on deposits of people who join hyip after you. Also hyip owners can run away with your money if they see they earned enough. Not to mention they are usually lying that you are investing your money in trading or something else. Hyip is not sustainable, and it will collapse sooner or later. I will repeat this again: you don't have control over your money and can't withdraw your deposit.

When you make deposit to gambling site, your winnings depends only on your luck and/or skills in some games, like poker. You have full control over your money and you can make withdrawal any time you like. Gambling should be consider as entertainment, not something to make profit, but there is always chance to win something big  :).

What you are saying that don't also invest in gambling sites, bankroll casino's? You gotta kidding me, bankroll casino's are more reliable and legit to hyips.

It is true that we must not get considered those hyip's but saying that we must also not to consider bankroll casino's, I totally disagree.

Many of good gambling sites giving the chance to the investors to invest with them ,just like bitvest.

It gives a mesmerizing feel of getting high yield in a short, but in reality more such were recorded as Scams. Even after knowing the truth about hyip's is worse than involving into casino or other forms of gambling. Here lots of trusted gambling websites give a assured payback if won.