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Title: ICO methods
Post by: mandica on September 17, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
I am in the process of building a new coin w/ very strong privacy features and this has cost some money so far. I also want to hire a couple of people post-launch to further develop some mathematical ideas to achieve an even greater degree of anonymity. As I am confident that the coin has a pretty unique plan and some unusual features I was intending to raise some funds through an ICO. I have never done that before and I don't know what the best way would be and a method that people feel they could trust.

So, what are your opinion on how to arrange a reasonable ICO that would protect everyones interest. Through and exchange or an escrow or what?


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: newIndia on September 17, 2016, 10:16:20 PM
U r basically asking How to scam in a way so that it appears legitimate?


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: ICOcountdown.com on September 17, 2016, 10:18:46 PM
Ask yourself these questions.

1.) Why am I doing this?

2.) What will the token or the coin be used for?

3.) Is the business development there.


Answer these and I will ask for more.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: returnofrandom on September 17, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Depends on what kind of valuation you are shooting for. ICO's currently raise all money in one big swoop. There are potentially better ways to do it, so that you don't sell supply so early. I can detail the method if you want. Its usually easier to convince good investors earlier. If you're "going public" you need more than some ideas.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: mandica on September 17, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
U r basically asking How to scam in a way so that it appears legitimate?

No scam. I don't understand why you think everything is a scam without having any knowledge of the project whatsoever. I haven't told you anything so how do you draw that conclusion?


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: mandica on September 18, 2016, 07:24:06 AM
Ask yourself these questions.

1.) Why am I doing this?

2.) What will the token or the coin be used for?

3.) Is the business development there.


Answer these and I will ask for more.

1) After doing some research on current privacy centric coins I have found that there are shortcomings and they would be relatively easy to deanonymise. Users are lulled into a false sense of security.
2) I can deliver a coin that will address some of these issues and deliver something with a higher level of real world anonymity for users
3) There is a potential for development of certain mathematical ideas and improvement of the coin, but not a business model as such. The ICO would cover the cost of getting from the first stage to a product that would be attractive for other developers to work on. In other words, I get the network up and running and it will attract enough interest after a while for developers to take part and move it forward.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: shinratensei_ on September 18, 2016, 09:13:53 AM
I am in the process of building a new coin w/ very strong privacy features and this has cost some money so far. I also want to hire a couple of people post-launch to further develop some mathematical ideas to achieve an even greater degree of anonymity. As I am confident that the coin has a pretty unique plan and some unusual features I was intending to raise some funds through an ICO. I have never done that before and I don't know what the best way would be and a method that people feel they could trust.

So, what are your opinion on how to arrange a reasonable ICO that would protect everyones interest. Through and exchange or an escrow or what?
And yourself can answer your question, and I think you're the candidate of a new developer man, and that is will be sued you for getting you ideas and the characteristic of your ideas. in this time a lot of people is see if releasing new altcoins will becoming a rich field.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: jack1111 on September 18, 2016, 09:49:31 AM
You know there are many ICOs now , and most of them failed to reach its goals , if you want to run an ICO , you should answer people's concerns , some members will ask if you use escrow to hold the money , some will ask legal questions , if you do not have knowledge you can monitor how the successful ICOs are running . You can watch ICONOMI which managed to collect investments worth $5 million and it is still on going.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: LykkeX on September 18, 2016, 10:46:56 AM
You can have a look at Lykke and how we're doing funding with ColoredCoins: lykke.com/ico


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: robelneo on September 18, 2016, 12:34:35 PM
There have been a lot of coins with the same features,better ask us what kind of projects do this community coin,so many coins very few usage after a 5 months or so after all the features are added nothing can be add and no usage and the dev disappear ..


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: cryptohunter on September 18, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
I am in the process of building a new coin w/ very strong privacy features and this has cost some money so far. I also want to hire a couple of people post-launch to further develop some mathematical ideas to achieve an even greater degree of anonymity. As I am confident that the coin has a pretty unique plan and some unusual features I was intending to raise some funds through an ICO. I have never done that before and I don't know what the best way would be and a method that people feel they could trust.

So, what are your opinion on how to arrange a reasonable ICO that would protect everyones interest. Through and exchange or an escrow or what?

Get anonymint to peer review your new ideas or someone else well known and versed in the anonymous development of cc.
If they vouch for your ideas and talents to execute them then you will have no issue getting ICO funding. Right now most have not heard of you so have no idea what you are capable of.
Of course escrow should be used for all new ico projects.

Can I ask which anonymous coins are not all that anonymous in your opinion?


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: NorrisK on September 18, 2016, 01:24:42 PM
Definately get an escrow and if you really want to give confidence to the investors, have the escrow only release the funds after specific milestones are reached.

This requires dedication and risk on your part as you will have to pay the developers in advance, but it will best protect the investors and will lead to a lot more confidence in your project.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: Mallyx on September 18, 2016, 01:33:29 PM
Some keys:

  • Reveal your identity and proof it
  • Get a trusted escrow
  • Work the design and marketing, find partners to help you in that job because it's time consuming
  • Try to offer something new
  • Don't look money hungry
  • Make sure that all details are straight and easy to find


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: icoyan on September 18, 2016, 02:30:56 PM
Depends on what kind of valuation you are shooting for. ICO's currently raise all money in one big swoop. There are potentially better ways to do it, so that you don't sell supply so early. I can detail the method if you want.

Are you thinking of something like several funding rounds at different valuations, a la startup/VC model? if not, do tell :)


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: Febo on September 18, 2016, 02:43:02 PM
look at Monero how they did it. If you have good idea and you will make opensource project you will sooner or latter got developers that will code for free.
If you need to pay codders, then your idea is nothing really special.  Then you need ICO or premine if you are so poor that you cant afford to pay them.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: amacar2 on September 18, 2016, 03:18:37 PM
If you have an idea, share it and also share the full team details who will be working on project to community, work good in having detail roadmap about your project/coin before you start ICO. It is quite must to have some well known personality to be an escrow of all the ICO funds and also a model for releasing ICO funds in step by step fashion when you do and make some developments public. However i don't think many will be happy to invest thousands of bitcoin in coins that will only have name and algo changed without any new features. Try to focus on new features as well solve the recent problems other alts have.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: samcoin on September 18, 2016, 03:58:43 PM
I have two notes:
- One person can't run successful project, you may hire some marketers and developers to work with you, this point depends on your budget as well.
- You should create a good bounty system, the bounty hunters will help you to advertise your project, but you should do some steps in order to avoid spammers.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: morantis on September 18, 2016, 04:02:15 PM
The problem is that no one is going to get behind the project.  Developing an ICO is easy and a good method is a one way token, but first you need an idea that people care about.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: mandica on September 18, 2016, 04:31:14 PM
The problem is that no one is going to get behind the project.  Developing an ICO is easy and a good method is a one way token, but first you need an idea that people care about.

What do you mean by a one way token?


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: Ayers on September 18, 2016, 05:16:54 PM
don't do it, no one will invest anymore in any ico above the initial little hype, they are all seen as a scam, better to focus on real features with new project like zcash, and with a pow phase that is very long, this will encourage more people to invest, if there is also mining for it


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: posternat on September 18, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
I have two notes:
- One person can't run successful project, you may hire some marketers and developers to work with you, this point depends on your budget as well.
- You should create a good bounty system, the bounty hunters will help you to advertise your project, but you should do some steps in order to avoid spammers.

Bounties are good, but this forum has way too many under-qualified scammers and those that boost themselves up and produce no results. 


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: mandica on September 18, 2016, 07:20:09 PM
Definately get an escrow and if you really want to give confidence to the investors, have the escrow only release the funds after specific milestones are reached.

This requires dedication and risk on your part as you will have to pay the developers in advance, but it will best protect the investors and will lead to a lot more confidence in your project.

Thats not a bad idea, how can I find a trustworthy escrow?


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: 0day on September 18, 2016, 07:48:33 PM
Try to introduce a useful coin like that will have some features of currency, not only an asset to trade with and to store, coins for only trade do not survive for longer, the demand will be increased only if it will have some demand in market as a use of currency.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: Bestwishes745 on September 18, 2016, 07:50:59 PM
Definately get an escrow and if you really want to give confidence to the investors, have the escrow only release the funds after specific milestones are reached.

This requires dedication and risk on your part as you will have to pay the developers in advance, but it will best protect the investors and will lead to a lot more confidence in your project.

Thats not a bad idea, how can I find a trustworthy escrow?

Look at this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0 he is a  much trusted person to keep him as an escrow for your project, he is currently working as an escrow of opair project . and maybe will have some other also.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: BTCDDev on September 18, 2016, 07:54:16 PM
Why not let me develop the ICO code?


User Creation
Logging in / Access Verification
Bitcoin/Alternate Crypto Currency Integration
Funds handling, Deposit Notification+Validation
Token issuance
Bonus Periods
Easy Integration into your website
Fully Customizable!




https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608878 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608878)


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: sparklerz on September 19, 2016, 01:04:17 AM
Definately get an escrow and if you really want to give confidence to the investors, have the escrow only release the funds after specific milestones are reached.

This requires dedication and risk on your part as you will have to pay the developers in advance, but it will best protect the investors and will lead to a lot more confidence in your project.

Thats not a bad idea, how can I find a trustworthy escrow?

Look at this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0 he is a  much trusted person to keep him as an escrow for your project, he is currently working as an escrow of opair project . and maybe will have some other also.

No doubt he is one of the best and probably among the 10 ten escrow in this forum.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: bbc.reporter on September 19, 2016, 04:19:59 AM
U r basically asking How to scam in a way so that it appears legitimate?

Hehehe. That is another way of looking at it.

@mandica. It is very hard to become a trusted entity in the cryptosphere because it is not regulated and the issuers of the ICO cannot be imprisoned. All you can do is do the best and honest job that you can. The FUD and the accusations will come whether you like it or not. So it is best to organize a simple ICO and get an exchange as an escrow agent. Poloniex will do a good job of this if they think your project is not a scam or if it is viable.


Title: Re: ICO methods
Post by: Sweetbtc on September 20, 2016, 03:47:16 PM
Try to introduce a useful coin like that will have some features of currency, not only an asset to trade with and to store, coins for only trade do not survive for longer, the demand will be increased only if it will have some demand in market as a use of currency.

Try a few of the bid to hire sites and see how that route goes.  Maybe add a little more to the project other than "privacy features" for a system that is supposed to be transparent.