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Title: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 25, 2016, 08:40:20 AM
Hello,

I have build a RIG unsing H97 Anniversary MB with 1 RX480 and 3 RX470 RIG, fist of all I have update the bios of MB isert RX480 on X16 PCIe slot but I was never able to boot, I have try also with all other RX470 with the same result.
I have change the MB for a new one but I get the same problem, do you know why x16 PCIe slot doesnt work on RX cards ? There are some particula BIOS settings ?

Next step was boot the RIG using internal IGP and 1 RX480 GPU on x1 PCIe slot and riser card, this works and I was able to boot my Windows 10 OS and install the Radeon latest driver, so I start to insert the second GPU RX470 with riser and I get a driver crash and I was never be able to have this card working I have try to change all possible PCIe slot with same crash every time.

I have try also using linux Ubuntu, same problem on x16 PCIe slot that doesn't boot and same problem using 2 o more GPU the sistem crash.

What can be the problem ?

Maybe the riser card ?

I have use this riser with B85 Annuversary MB and HD7970 for some months with no problem !

Thanks

Fabrizio ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: MarkAz on September 25, 2016, 11:21:32 AM
I have a couple H97's running 6 cards, but they were much more of a pain to get going than the H81.   The biggest thing I found was you had to disable the onboard video, and use the card in the full-sized slot... Everything else went relatively smoothly after I figured that out.

All of mine are on risers (USB style) - so I would just confirm that you're giving them enough power via the molex connectors on the riser.  I never tried mixing both riser and non-riser, but I doubt that would case an issue.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 25, 2016, 01:15:27 PM
I have a couple H97's running 6 cards, but they were much more of a pain to get going than the H81.   The biggest thing I found was you had to disable the onboard video, and use the card in the full-sized slot... Everything else went relatively smoothly after I figured that out.

All of mine are on risers (USB style) - so I would just confirm that you're giving them enough power via the molex connectors on the riser.  I never tried mixing both riser and non-riser, but I doubt that would case an issue.


How I can disable onboard video ?

on bios you can just specified pci express as primary video but you can't disable internal video


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 25, 2016, 03:57:55 PM
Did you connected power to the molex connector on the motherboard straight from the psu with nothing else on the cable ?

http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH/h97molex.JPG


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: nerdralph on September 25, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
I have a couple H97's running 6 cards, but they were much more of a pain to get going than the H81.   The biggest thing I found was you had to disable the onboard video, and use the card in the full-sized slot... Everything else went relatively smoothly after I figured that out.

All of mine are on risers (USB style) - so I would just confirm that you're giving them enough power via the molex connectors on the riser.  I never tried mixing both riser and non-riser, but I doubt that would case an issue.


I have a H97 anniversary that runs fine with no card in the 16x slot, and PCIe video set as priority in the BIOS.  I did have problems figuring out which 1x slot gets picked as primary when there is no card in the 16x slot; it doesn't seem to be consistent.  If I have to hook a monitor up to the rig, the easiest thing is to stick a card in the 16x slot, and that always gets used as the primary video card.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 25, 2016, 04:13:17 PM

What can be the problem ?


Did you checked your PSU ? Try using another one . If you switched the motherboard already , and all those cards you have , have a same problem it can be a psu , but make sure that molex power connector is connected to the mobo.

In my setup (H97 Anniversary with RX480) i have onboard video enabled , and 6 RX 480 cards running just fine .
http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH/6rxandgpu.PNG


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 25, 2016, 04:59:23 PM
Did you connected power to the molex connector on the motherboard straight from the psu with nothing else on the cable ?

http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH/h97molex.JPG

The same cable is used to power the riser, but the problem is that using the sigle GPU directly connected on PCIe x16 doesn't work !

I have no  problem on PSU is 1200W and the problem occur using 2 or more GPUs

Then I dont know why with B85 Anniversary I didn't have this problem !


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 25, 2016, 05:18:19 PM

The same cable is used to power the riser, but the problem is that using the sigle GPU directly connected on PCIe x16 doesn't work !

I have no  problem on PSU is 1200W and the problem occur using 2 or more GPUs



EXACTLY THIS TWO REASON CAN BE A SIGN YOU HAVE A PSU PROBLEM , im not saying for sure , but you should try another psu , if you switched the mobo to a new one already , and the problem is still exist . OR you have a bad luck , and got a 2nd bad mobo :(


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 25, 2016, 07:48:06 PM

The same cable is used to power the riser, but the problem is that using the sigle GPU directly connected on PCIe x16 doesn't work !

I have no  problem on PSU is 1200W and the problem occur using 2 or more GPUs



EXACTLY THIS TWO REASON CAN BE A SIGN YOU HAVE A PSU PROBLEM , im not saying for sure , but you should try another psu , if you switched the mobo to a new one already , and the problem is still exist . OR you have a bad luck , and got a 2nd bad mobo :(


That's sound strange because with same PSU and same GPU on B85 Anniversary all work fine !

I have 2 PSU 1 Corsair VS-430 for MB and risers cards and 1 HP  DPS-1200FB 1200W just for the 6-8 pin GPU card


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 25, 2016, 10:28:01 PM
So are u using 2 psu for one setup ? I think that can be another problem in your case ... try one psu . With 2 psu you can kill ur mobo and your vga cards !!! If you not doing right ....

I'm almost sure you have a power issue with your setup .


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 26, 2016, 06:59:55 AM
So are u using 2 psu for one setup ? I think that can be another problem in your case ... try one psu . With 2 psu you can kill ur mobo and your vga cards !!! If you not doing right ....

I'm almost sure you have a power issue with your setup .


Yes that's is true but I have made a simple test using a single GPU connected directly on internal PCIe x16 slot  with a single PSU and the MB never boot, same identical configuration on B85 Anniversary was worked fine


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 26, 2016, 04:09:30 PM
Could you post your complete configuration ?
CPU
Installed mem (how much RAM you have )
Hard drive
PSU type, brand , wattage

Did you tried to clear the CMOS ? Your computer stores low-level settings like the system time and hardware settings in its CMOS ...




Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 26, 2016, 07:43:10 PM
Could you post your complete configuration ?
CPU
Installed mem (how much RAM you have )
Hard drive
PSU type, brand , wattage

Did you tried to clear the CMOS ? Your computer stores low-level settings like the system time and hardware settings in its CMOS ...





Today I have buy another PSU with same result !!!

My configuration is:

H97 Anniversary
Celeron G1840
6GB RAM (2+2+1+1)
SSD 60GB
Mars Games MP800 800W

I have try many times to clear CMOS but the GPU on PCIe x16 slot never works

At the moment 1 GPU RX480 is working but if I add second GPU RX470 is recognized by Windows 10 but have an hashrate of 4 MH/s inteast of 22 MH/s.

I have seem many RIG working with 2 PSU like mine I don't know why is a problem ....than the HP DPS-1200FB should be a platinum one too with 1200W of real power.

I have order another B85 Anniversary that will arrive tomorrow.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: flikflak on September 26, 2016, 09:01:54 PM


Today I have buy another PSU with same result !!!

My configuration is:

H97 Anniversary
Celeron G1840
6GB RAM (2+2+1+1)
SSD 60GB
Mars Games MP800 800W

I have try many times to clear CMOS but the GPU on PCIe x16 slot never works

At the moment 1 GPU RX480 is working but if I add second GPU RX470 is recognized by Windows 10 but have an hashrate of 4 MH/s inteast of 22 MH/s.

I have seem many RIG working with 2 PSU like mine I don't know why is a problem ....than the HP DPS-1200FB should be a platinum one too with 1200W of real power.

I have order another B85 Anniversary that will arrive tomorrow.

Can you tell us more about how your 2 psu's are connected to the cards and the board? Its not a good idea to feed 12 volts through the PCIe slot with PSU 1 and having another PSU connected to a powered Riser cable (thats like 2 different 12V rails for the PCIe slot). I always use 1 PSU for the board and its PCIe slots and the other PSU for all 6 pin pcie power connectors. I think you have done that too, right?.

It really looks like the rx470 @ 4mhs isn't ramping up the clocks for RAM and GPU. -> It happens to me too, if I'm going to undervolt the cards to much with wattman.

Have you tried all the other 4 PCIe slots too?


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 26, 2016, 10:33:18 PM


Today I have buy another PSU with same result !!!

My configuration is:

H97 Anniversary
Celeron G1840
6GB RAM (2+2+1+1)
SSD 60GB
Mars Games MP800 800W

I have try many times to clear CMOS but the GPU on PCIe x16 slot never works

At the moment 1 GPU RX480 is working but if I add second GPU RX470 is recognized by Windows 10 but have an hashrate of 4 MH/s inteast of 22 MH/s.

I have seem many RIG working with 2 PSU like mine I don't know why is a problem ....than the HP DPS-1200FB should be a platinum one too with 1200W of real power.

I have order another B85 Anniversary that will arrive tomorrow.

Can you tell us more about how your 2 psu's are connected to the cards and the board? Its not a good idea to feed 12 volts through the PCIe slot with PSU 1 and having another PSU connected to a powered Riser cable (thats like 2 different 12V rails for the PCIe slot). I always use 1 PSU for the board and its PCIe slots and the other PSU for all 6 pin pcie power connectors. I think you have done that too, right?.

It really looks like the rx470 @ 4mhs isn't ramping up the clocks for RAM and GPU. -> It happens to me too, if I'm going to undervolt the cards to much with wattman.

Have you tried all the other 4 PCIe slots too?

I have connect 1 PSU to MB and riser card and the other to 6-8 pin PCIe GPU

Now I was able to run 3 GPU trying all different PCIe slot i find 3 that works, it seems a problem related to PCIe bridge.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 27, 2016, 01:39:56 AM
You don't need a new mobo ....
Replace that 2+2+1+1 memory configuration to 1 x 8GB or 16GB ( DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 @ 1.5V ) memm stick and you will be ok .
Let me know if it's fixed your problem :-)

Or you can try with 4GB system memory, win 10 will recognizing the gpu s , but the hashing speed is will be around 4MH/s for each gpu ...

8GB or 16GB SYSTEM MEMORY WILL FIX YOUR PROBLEM !!!!


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: Bakery on September 27, 2016, 05:01:19 PM
You don't need a new mobo ....
Replace that 2+2+1+1 memory configuration to 1 x 8GB or 16GB ( DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 @ 1.5V ) memm stick and you will be ok .
Let me know if it's fixed your problem :-)

Or you can try with 4GB system memory, win 10 will recognizing the gpu s , but the hashing speed is will be around 4MH/s for each gpu ...

8GB or 16GB SYSTEM MEMORY WILL FIX YOUR PROBLEM !!!!

I bet you 1 btc that 4 GB is enough to work well enough  :P
A most plain rig with a celeron processor and 4gb ram is enough to run a miner.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on September 27, 2016, 05:59:24 PM
You don't need a new mobo ....
Replace that 2+2+1+1 memory configuration to 1 x 8GB or 16GB ( DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 @ 1.5V ) memm stick and you will be ok .
Let me know if it's fixed your problem :-)

Or you can try with 4GB system memory, win 10 will recognizing the gpu s , but the hashing speed is will be around 4MH/s for each gpu ...

8GB or 16GB SYSTEM MEMORY WILL FIX YOUR PROBLEM !!!!

I bet you 1 btc that 4 GB is enough to work well enough  :P
A most plain rig with a celeron processor and 4gb ram is enough to run a miner.

Most of time 4GB is ok , but maybe not in that memory configuration :) 1x4 or 2x2 is fine
it worth a try ... He tried everything , new mobo , new psu , rx card straight plugged into the mobo  ...



brizio71 !
when you start the miner ( claymores ) , and your rx 480 hashing around 4MH/s what you see in the begining ?
claymore detect you card with GPU #0: Ellesmere, 3072 MB of ram available 36 compute units ,
or
claymore detect this card with GPU #0: Ellesmere, 8192 MB of ram available 36 compute units


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: flikflak on September 27, 2016, 08:35:43 PM
Have a look here:
 Link  (https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/6149/pci-riser-woes)to ethereum.org forum about the h97 anniversary board.

The 7th post from shawn is quit interesting. He has shut down the rig and reseated the riser-cables and power-cables a little until every card worked.



Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 28, 2016, 06:11:31 AM
You don't need a new mobo ....
Replace that 2+2+1+1 memory configuration to 1 x 8GB or 16GB ( DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 @ 1.5V ) memm stick and you will be ok .
Let me know if it's fixed your problem :-)

Or you can try with 4GB system memory, win 10 will recognizing the gpu s , but the hashing speed is will be around 4MH/s for each gpu ...

8GB or 16GB SYSTEM MEMORY WILL FIX YOUR PROBLEM !!!!

I bet you 1 btc that 4 GB is enough to work well enough  :P
A most plain rig with a celeron processor and 4gb ram is enough to run a miner.

Most of time 4GB is ok , but maybe not in that memory configuration :) 1x4 or 2x2 is fine
it worth a try ... He tried everything , new mobo , new psu , rx card straight plugged into the mobo  ...



brizio71 !
when you start the miner ( claymores ) , and your rx 480 hashing around 4MH/s what you see in the begining ?
claymore detect you card with GPU #0: Ellesmere, 3072 MB of ram available 36 compute units ,
or
claymore detect this card with GPU #0: Ellesmere, 8192 MB of ram available 36 compute units

Now I have find a stable situation using 3 GPUs (1xRX480 and 2xRX470) using RX470 as primary (before was on RX480),
I have select some PCI-e port (i.e. slot 1,3,4) all other combination doesn't work !!!

....then the problem of low hash rate was on RX470 and never on RX480

I'm waiting for a B85 Anniversary MB .....I'll let u know if this one will work fine


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: Bakery on September 28, 2016, 06:19:40 AM
I remember that from somewhere i read that in UEFI settings choosing the pcie generation manually did some trick.
Try that aswell, Gen2 or Gen3.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: brizio71 on September 28, 2016, 06:24:37 AM
I remember that from somewhere i read that in UEFI settings choosing the pcie generation manually did some trick.
Try that aswell, Gen2 or Gen3.

I did try all possible combination Gen1, Gen2, Gen3 .....all with same result, doesn't work !!!


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: xxcsu on October 06, 2016, 01:59:32 AM
Did you fixed the problem ? Would be great if you can share your experience with your problem ,how You was able to fix it ,  this way you can help another members :-)


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: Bakery on October 07, 2016, 10:23:47 AM
I read in ether forums that using DisplayDriverUninstaller and Reinstalling the driver might solve the problem.


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: LoneRangir on October 07, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
Try removing the monitor cable, and rebooting. You'll need to use remote control program ( team view, chrome remote desktop, etc). Upon reboot you should be hashing at full rate


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: mrbsk on January 25, 2017, 09:58:40 PM
Try removing the monitor cable, and rebooting. You'll need to use remote control program ( team view, chrome remote desktop, etc). Upon reboot you should be hashing at full rate
damn it works


Title: Re: H97 Anniversary with RX480 and RX470 RIG Problem
Post by: fanatic26 on January 26, 2017, 02:15:36 AM
I have 50 of these motherboards with six 380x's each in them using NON POWERED risers. It sounds like there might be a problem with your board if you cannot get anything to work solo in the 16x slot, I would RMA it.

P.S. Run linux for your mining OS, throwing windows into the mix just adds more problems. I started out with Win10 and replaced it within a week due to all the issues it had running multiple GPUs.