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Is there a reason why bitmain has stopped selling s9 miners? Its been out of stock for some time; is there a new model coming out?

Or is it something else?

Well they are busy swapping out s9 for s7 in their cloud ops.

Remember when you have a
.1 watt miner and your competitors have .25 watt you don't need to sell any gear you can simply mine.

Punch in what a .1 watt 12th miner earns with 5 cent power .

And also remember they build it for say 700 maybe 500. They simply have almost zero need to sell any gear.

Now if Avalon sells its model 7 maybe bitmaintech will sell more s9s

I see... okay, thanks for the explanation.

Now that Avalon company is about to be sold, I wonder how their subsequent miners will perform in the market.

Its not being sold https://canaan.io/en/2016/09/29/keep-the-faith-innovation-over-acquisition/

Yes and the fact that they need a specialized environment to work.  Prolly somewhere around 20 c input temp is safe MAX.  Course good luck with that if your at home running these in a garage.  Im going to be selling mine on ebay for cheap in the next couple days ill post a link here soon. (winter is the safest time i feel i can sell these and not get a chargeback and ohh boy wait till you see my description of these machines . Think you all might get a kick out of it except maybe bitmain lol.    Its long past time i gave this up.  Now im sure most of you will hoot and holler at that but the more they pick away at those that participate in this experiment the less people there will be that use it or worse that advocate for it.  Crypto with all the bs that is happening with ethereum and btc is really leaving a sour taste in my mouth.  I have over 850 mhs eth rigs ill be parting with aswell. ( not to mention i guess its time to fire sale the hardware left in the garage.  Been procrastinating doin it cuz its going to suck major!  80Ths sha-256 plus 1 ghs scrypt all inefficient and collecting dust)  That should be my first sign that this game is rigged towards those that have the most money cheapest resources.  This is all about getting things done for the cheapest cost.  This was the only way it could be done and also it makes those that put the machines in feel like they are the ones doing it lmao.  We all work for someone that is running this show.  Big corps will use this to find the regions in the world with the cheapest resources to get their accounting or whatever done via blockchain.  Was this all a trick to put datacenters out of business, lawyers etc etc?   just remember lawyers are one of the biggest costs to a corporation!  Its all about how can we make things cheaper amirite???  Only was a matter of time before it showed its ugly head.  In the beginning i had hope for btc/crypto but now that i see it wont be anymore decentralized than fiat is now im over it.  One word of advice i could give is this is too good to be true!!  Far too many variables have to come together exactly for this to succeed.  Lately all i see is fighting amongst the devs and community.  Sooner the human race rids ourselves of these chains the better off we all will be.

Honestly bitmain not selling is doing you all a HUGE favor!. Maybe is a good time to reflect on whether or not this is for you or not.  

For those living in the states and want a killer deal on crypto hw then keep an eye open for my sale.  Its time for me to part ways while im ahead.  I put that lightly since most will go to IRS.  Cuz they did so much to help me get going ::)   I find it fucking amazing that those like trump who can afford to lose a billion dollars and can write that off. but then there is the general public who goes to jail for not being able to pay.  What a fucking joke.  Those that can afford to pay dont and the ones that cant goto jail and lose everything.  Welcome to America folks!

Best Regards
d57heinz

The s9 has been the hardest miner for me to run.  more breakdowns then my other gear. I had six.

 buysolar took one
I sold off three
I have two at the solar array

Four of the s9's  have been flawless

two of them  have had multiple repairs.

I sold   the repaired ones off on this past Sunday.
I sold one of the flawless ones last week.

I kept two of the flawless ones
Buysolar has the other flawless one.

I was up to 650mh in eth rigs  I sold off 200mh

I now have 425 mh in eth rigs.
I moved one rig to the solar array
I have 345mh in my garage.

I may sell my gear off fully the two s9s  and the 5  four card eth rigs

So should we start having a petition to try and find another mining company?  I want some hardware but no one is selling :(

If they are swapping out S7's for S9's then why aren't there shitloads of S7's for sale?

Why are you selling your mining gear?

I am thinking they already swapped it and sold the S7's.  They just didn't fully stock and fire up the S9's so they wouldn't explode the difficulty.  There appears to be a very deliberate and steady diff increase going on these days.  Someone fires up a ton of gear towards the end of each diff jump and then lays off mid cycle before doing it again to produce a jump each time.  This next one looks to be a good size jump but whoever is doing it seems to have more and more hashrate with each diff step, which makes me think it must be bitmain.  There are a couple other miner manufacturers but they all seem more limited in how much gear they can produce (apparently not enough to sell any anyway).

I sold  9 gpus and multple pc's   So far I kept 19 gpus and 5 rigs

I sold 3 s9's well four but one was to my partner buysolar  I have 2 s9's

All my s9's are out of warranty. 

my gpus/pc for eth are in warranty.

with the sales I did and the mining I did I am very strong on coin at the moment.

I may sell all gear   and go stronger on coin.   It is simply a guess that a big coin move will happen. i am over 20 coins at the moment I may look to sell everything and go to 35 coins until Jan 2017.

OT: hey, fellas, how do you buy bitcoin if you want to buy a S9 miner with new funds (not old coins) after instabuy is gone from Coinbase?
Instabuy disappeared (once you get to the card expiration date), being replaced by credit/debit card buy, but with a very high fee.
Do you just ACH funds to GDAX, then buy there with a lesser (trading) fee?
Thanks

good move, I am also bullish on coin, but miners make coin.
I would like to get max dollars for miners, so I am content with miners mining coin(s) and IF $$ price/coin increases, i would be able to sell S7 and S9 for more $$ later on. We shall see if ETF is finally approved by Oct 12 (I doubt it).

Regarding rig sales-I cannot sell them so soon after i spent time 'nurturing' them to 'life', not for at least a few months.

Well I sold off all the two card rigs and one three card rig. Total of nine gpus and five rigs.
I kept all my no riser four card rigs. Three times four is 12 cards.  And I have a four soon to be five card rig which is mix of 16 pcie and risers. Which is 16 cards.  Finally I have a three card pcie which will allow for a riser
This will mean 21 cards on five rigs. I have a rack to load and set up at the solar array.
It will fit in the loft and be three x 4 gpus.
This will do around 260-270 mh and use 1700 watts

I sold today 3 x S9   11.85THs

Have never been opened or repaired.

I need more power to my TITAN miners and other projects. Still left 20 x S9

But mining a BTC is a high-risk venture. From 23 x S9 I only got 0.3 BTC per day using the https://btc.com/

0% PPS fee until the end of the year

That's true. BTC mining is becoming more and more volatile, and in just the next few years hobby mining will be all that's left from home miners. You might want to look at a few altcoins if you haven't already, not going to say much more because this is the bitcoin forum but they can be pretty profitable. 0.3 BTC seems pretty low; might want to try another pool.

Solo can also be fun if you want to try; chances are you won't hit anything, but I have with my tiny 6TH/S rig at home. I'll probably also sell them off for a few RX 470s, I'll mine for as long as I live in some way.

This is not a low for 300 TH/s

Today PPS/TH Earning Rate is 0,00104241 BTC  and and the day after tomorrow it  is even lower.

Sales are back at bitmaintech

But Todays PPS/TH Earning Rate is 0,00104241 BTC  0,00097267  BTC and S9 price is still overvalued.

yeah more due to short warranty time and poor quality warranty,but if you have cheap power they would be good at that price with a solid warranty.

gone are the days that 10 cent power was okay to profit. Now six cent plus trouble free gear are needed.