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Title: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 07, 2016, 02:05:46 PM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/are-they-planning-to-deny-the-election-if-trump-wins/

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They are starting to set the stage for calling the entire election a FRAUD and pinning the blame on Putin. That’s right. They are saying already in preparation that Russia is hacking (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russians-hacked-two-u-s-voter-databases-say-officials-n639551) into the voting systems to make sure Trump wins. There have been rumors for years that Obama would declare Martial Law and suspend the election process. Interestingly enough, mow it is not the lunatic fringe who are starting to say that would be appropriate if Obama can claim the election was a FRAUD. Even Ben Carson (http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/ben-carson-might-obama-cancel-the-2016-election-28523/), a black neurosurgeon and a former 2016 Republican presidential candidate, has publicly stated that Obama may declare Martial Law concerning the elections. This is probably a stretch, but the core of the issue is not to prevent an election, only to prevent someone from taking office claiming FRAUD should they win. I doubt Obama could pull this off peacefully. These people not only believe their own bullshit, they often drown in it.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/russia-warns-obama/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/obama-martial-law/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/putin-v-obama-suspending-the-nuclear-pact/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/the-noway-clinton-foundation-obama-links-corruption-to-create-world-war-iii/

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Stoltenberg’s installation into NATO is a set-up. Everything is now in place and if Trump wins, Obama can claim, without any proof as usual, that Russia determined the election and call it all a FRAUD and domestic protest would justify Martial Law and off we go.


TPTB_need_war (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=504237) warned you.

Is Armstrong being too sensational or could there be a chance of this coming to reality?


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: trollercoaster on October 07, 2016, 10:16:34 PM
I think it's possible now, if they fail to get satan incarnate elected they will do something very dirty.

Armstrong isn't being overly sensational imo, there's too much at stake for tptb to allow Trump in the white house.

I don't believe tptb will allow Trump to peacefully take over and put an end to their shenanigans.  :(


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
How do we know that Trump isnt a TPTB agent?

We are talking about a entity that is controling the world for several hundred(/thousand) years no?

And now donald trump is our savior?


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 08, 2016, 02:14:06 PM
How do we know that Trump isnt a TPTB agent?

We are talking about a entity that is controling the world for several hundred(/thousand) years no?

Did a very significant portion of his campaign money come from banksters such as Goldman Sachs as is the case for Hellary and OBummer, or did it come from < $200 donors. That is a rhetorical statement.

Trump is neck and neck with Hillary, although she is outspending him 10:1. Trump has more individuals donating to him while Hillary has all the bankers, hedge funds, and political manipulators who routinely buy government. She also has the press who support Hillary worldwide.

Donald Trump has taken nearly $ 100 million in just three months by small donations – more than any Republican before ever in history. That is actually more than two million donors supporting Trump than support his rival Hillary. Hillary takes the money from the elite like Goldman Sachs and Soros, as well as countless banks and hedge funds. They OWN Hillary and she outspends Trump. If we look at this measurement, the PEOPLE are lining up behind Trump more than Hillary.
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That is the bottom-line. Just look at the donations and you see Trump has more LITTLE PEOPLE than Hillary. People vote, not hedge funds and banks.

Watch the video (https://youtu.be/phKO2T2pMjM) on the following quoted page and see Trump is the one letting the Haitian President speak:

President of Haiti Exposes Clintons’ Corruption Pocketing 98% of the Money Donated for Relief

Haitian President has come publicly to expose the corruption of the Clintons and their Clinton Foundation. Of the billions of dollars donated to help the Haitian people, he has stated publicly that only about 2% was given to the people. He further exposes the drugs sent into the USA from Haiti and the money was then sent back to pay lobbyists of the Clinton. Here comes a new scandal. They just never end.

Mess with the banksters and their desire to make money from war and you are assassinated (Lincoln and Kennedy):

Therefore, the Rothschilds did not demand high interest because they wanted the North to fail. This was simply a business deal. The entire claim of wanting to see the North lose was just fiction. It was a straight up war loan with the standard demand for a premium that Lincoln declined to pay and abandoned the gold standard instead.





Update:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/obama-officially-accuses-russia-of-hacking-the-election/

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Obama Officially Accuses Russia of Hacking the Election

Everything I have been getting from BEHIND THE CURTAIN seems to be spot on. The overall plan is to deny Trump a victory if there is a record surge of voters and Wikileaks promises new releases every week until the election. Plan B is to call the election a FRAUD and deny Trump to take office. Now 99% of newspapers endorsed Hillary so the media will portray whatever Obama directs them to these days.

It is clear that the Obama administration on Friday officially accused Russia of hacking to interfere with the 2016 elections. Obama has also blamed Russia for hacking the computers of the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations without any proof it was Russia. The Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-government-officially-accuses-russia-of-hacking-campaign-to-influence-elections/2016/10/07/4e0b9654-8cbf-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html): “The denunciation, made by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Homeland Security, came as pressure was growing from within the administration and some lawmakers to publicly name Moscow and hold it accountable for actions apparently aimed at sowing discord around the election.

They are not about to allow Trump to win this election and they will go to real extremes to prevent any outsider from looking at what they have done. They also fear that a Trump Administration would indict Hillary and that would lead to a widespread collapse of the Democratic Party with links directly to Obama.


Obama Used a Fictitious Name to Communicate with Hillary on Her Private Server

The New York Post (http://nypost.com/2016/09/24/obama-used-pseudonym-to-talk-with-hillary-on-private-server/), who may become the American version of the British Guardian, has now exposed that Obama used a fake name to communicate with Hillary on her private server because he KNEW what she was doing. While tens of thousands of Clinton’s emails have been made public so far, the government has not released any emails from Obama.

Obama told CBS news (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-weighs-in-hillary-clinton-private-emails/) that he had no idea that Hillary was using a private email server until it was reported by the New York Times on March 2, 2015 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html). That is clearly an outright lie, and if he were in a private fraud case, he would be criminally charged with her for conspiracy. Hillary’s continuous crime included other parties who may join the plot later and incur joint liability. His use of fictitious names is PROOF that he knew what she was doing was a crime, for he tried to hide his identity as a co-conspirator. This raises the question of whether he will benefit from the Clinton Foundation in the future.

Now it is all starting to make sense. Obviously, the government is refusing to release the emails that Obama sent to Hillary’s private server. Is Obama hiding the fact that he received money from the Clinton Foundation and disguising transactions as speaking fees? Those emails should be released BEFORE the November election.

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Hillary Threatens War with China & Russia

Now in a speech in Cincinnati, Hillary said that she would “politically, economically and militarily” proceed as US President against anyone who committed the hacker attacks against US facilities. Hillary has called explicitly Russia and China as nations that constantly perform hacker attacks. She told the audience: “You have seen the reports that Russia and China have hacked a lot of things. Russia has even hacked the National Committee of Democrats, maybe even some electoral systems of States. We need to increase and ensure that we can defend ourselves well, to fight against those who fight against us price. I’ll do it as president realized that the US will deal with cyber attacks as well as all other attacks. We are willing to seriously halt politically, economically and militarily respond. We will invest to protect our government units and our national infrastructure. “


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 08, 2016, 03:31:50 PM
How do we know that Trump isnt a TPTB agent?

We are talking about a entity that is controling the world for several hundred(/thousand) years no?

Did a very significant portion of his campaign money come from banksters such as Goldman Sachs as is the case for Hellary and OBummer, or did it come from < $200 donors. That is a rhetorical statement.



Imho this is a very weak reason why trump couldnt be a TBTP agent. You could easily fake and bypass the donation rules by just donating through random ppl.


Everyone seems to always black out that he is part of the "wealthy american elite".


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 08, 2016, 04:10:23 PM
Trump can't be allowed to take office:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/trumps-15-corporate-tax-rate/

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Trump’s 15% Corporate Tax Rate

While the GOP elite are doing everything they can to make sure Hillary beats Trump just to hold on to their power base, the real business community that creates jobs, not the bankers and multinationals, are excited about Trump’s tax plan to reduce corporate taxes to 15%. es that is what I testified before Congress on back in the Nineties.  Between excess reserves at the Fed and nearly $3 trillion in cash multinational have offshore to avoid taxes, if we took a 15% corporate tax rate, 70% of jobs are created by small business. That would ignite at last a real economic recovery. Then outlaw the Fed paying interest to the banks for NOT lending money, and what we will get is something spectacular. You will have about $5 trillion freed up in an economy that is $18 trillion. It would not be that hard to create jobs and an economic boom. All government has to do is end the socialism. The same formula would work in Europe.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 08, 2016, 04:12:12 PM
You could easily fake and bypass the donation rules by just donating through random ppl.

How can millions of donors be faked. You need to get a reality check.

Donald Trump has taken nearly $ 100 million in just three months by small donations – more than any Republican before ever in history. That is actually more than two million donors supporting Trump than support his rival Hillary. Hillary takes the money from the elite like Goldman Sachs and Soros, as well as countless banks and hedge funds. They OWN Hillary and she outspends Trump. If we look at this measurement, the PEOPLE are lining up behind Trump more than Hillary.
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That is the bottom-line. Just look at the donations and you see Trump has more LITTLE PEOPLE than Hillary. People vote, not hedge funds and banks.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 08, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
Mess with the banksters and their desire to make money from war and you are assassinated (Lincoln and Kennedy):

Therefore, the Rothschilds did not demand high interest because they wanted the North to fail. This was simply a business deal. The entire claim of wanting to see the North lose was just fiction. It was a straight up war loan with the standard demand for a premium that Lincoln declined to pay and abandoned the gold standard instead.


I think it's possible now, if they fail to get satan incarnate elected they will do something very dirty.

Armstrong isn't being overly sensational imo, there's too much at stake for tptb to allow Trump in the white house.

I don't believe tptb will allow Trump to peacefully take over and put an end to their shenanigans.  :(


Apparently Hellary will be nothing but a puppet in office and not actually in control of herself. We are headed into some really Twilight Zone weird shit.

Watch the videos!!!

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/why-wont-hillary-release-her-medical-records-what-is-she-hiding/

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The talk behind the curtain is that Hillary has a brain implant (http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-neurosurgeon-implants-brain-stimulator-to-relieve-parkinsons-symptoms) to calm her Parkinson’s disease. This way to deal with the disease is becoming more common as the FDA has approved such implants. This video shows the dramatic results of how this technology works. The rumor is that this is why Hillary was not publicly around for a week.

Indeed, Hillary may have had an implant to deal with all the criticism on the web about her having tremors and Parkinson’s disease. Notice as she is walking she holds her hand on her chest and that is the classic way to prevent people from seeing a tremor. She clearly does all the tricks to handle Parkinson’s disease. Being absent for a week is a very long time in this race. She did not need a week to prepare. I do public speaking and debates. I have never known someone to need a week to practice.

Hillary collapsed at the 9/11 memorial from something besides simple dehydration, as she claimed. Notice before she is put in the van, she is leaning up against the concrete pillar. When she moves forward, she cannot even walk on her own. This is Parkinson’s disease and shown in the video. He cannot walk and would collapse with the implant turned off.


What this video (https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM) for a doctor's very convincing analysis of Hillary's advanced Parkinson's disease:

More and more talk from behind the curtain is very concerned that Hillary indeed has Parkinson’s disease and this is why she is not having press conferences because she cannot handle multiple questions being hurled at her simultaneously. She needs help climbing stairs and is showing clear signs of tremors. This video is done by a doctor. However, we have confirming opinions by other doctors that agree with the video.

Hillary will not release her medical records in addition to refusing to do press conferences. There is talk starting to surface from behind the curtain because she is at an advanced stage and may develop Dementia sooner than latter. Some are very concerned because she only cares about being the first woman president and not the country.


QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; Does Hillary have health issues? This is the hot rumor that we do not know what is true of not. Do you have any information on this topic?

ANSWER: No I do not have any direct confirmation. I know this is the big rumor and there is probably something that is true for Hillary refuses to release her medical records. Wikileaks has released emails where her staff were investigating drugs (http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-just-dropped-bombshell-hillarys-health-truth-revealed/) for Parkinson’s disease. Her fall, which clearly disrupted her vision, was certainly no minor event. She is on blood thinners for a clot in her brain. However, what I can say is that all my direct sources have long said she is violent and acts out of anger not reason. She would often get mad at Bill and gave him a black-eye one time for they were famous for fights. She hit a Secret Service staff and treated employees like dogs or slaves. Nobody I have spoken to has ever had a reassuring thing to say about her temperament to be president and that was before her fall.

Whether she has Parkinson’s disease is a valid question and her refusal to simply release her medical records are crucial for an office of this significance.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 08, 2016, 04:52:14 PM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/can-hillary-win/

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QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; Do you think that Hillary can win? And if so, what would happen?

ANSWER: Our model is not unanimous for Trump. There is technically a 25% chance that Hillary could win, which one of our four models projects a Democratic victory. However, if you look at the mainstream channels from CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC, it is very clear they have an agenda to defeat Trump. Just like in Britain, they are starting to manipulate the polls already. I would not expect the polls to be fair or honest this year as was proven in the BREXIT vote. The elites are desperate to kill Trump and they will manipulate the polls just as they forced the head of Fox News out on the very day Trump was to deliver his acceptance speech. They rig and coordinate absolutely everything to prevent a Trump victory. This is all out political war. Make no mistake about that. Even the Republican elites like Paul Ryan and John McCain want to defeat Trump and will hail Hillary behind the curtain. Neither one wants an outsider who might expose their corruption. McCain voted to put a sales tax on the internet and then denied he voted for a tax increase claiming he was voting only to force collection of what was owed to the States. He is a two-face liar with a nasty temper who berates even a waitress for the slightest mistake.
The press is part of the establishment and have received their marching orders to push Hillary.

I fully expect that those in power will rig the votes to try to make Hillary victorious just as they stole the election from Bernie in the primaries. You are talking about the most ruthless people in the country. You cannot get there if you have morals. I have stated before, the ONLY way Trump can win is with a huge turnout that is so overwhelmingly against Hillary. The press is now pushing the Libertarians because they believe that those who would vote for Trump will turn to the Libertarians and that will be a victory for Hillary. Our models have been showing a huge 3rd Party spike for 2016. The Press will now push the Libertarians to try to stop Trump and we should see that this election will produce the biggest percentage take of the vote for the Libertarians so far.

If Hillary wins, everything will begin to collapse much more rapidly and this may be part of the cycle since we are showing the earliest point for a monetary crisis reform in 2018. Hillary may be what is needed to push us over the edge. Hillary will approve all tax increases and send the economy down really hard especially since Social Security goes bust next year with medicare. Hillary’s Billionaires will be fine, but the rest of us will get royally screwed.

Hillary is owned by the NY Bankers.


http://i63.tinypic.com/3590hzd.jpg (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/monday-night-presidential-debate-the-defining-moment-will-democrats-choose-between-being-american-or-a-democrat/)


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 08, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
You could easily fake and bypass the donation rules by just donating through random ppl.

How can millions of donors be faked. You need to get a reality check.

Donald Trump has taken nearly $ 100 million in just three months by small donations – more than any Republican before ever in history. That is actually more than two million donors supporting Trump than support his rival Hillary. Hillary takes the money from the elite like Goldman Sachs and Soros, as well as countless banks and hedge funds. They OWN Hillary and she outspends Trump. If we look at this measurement, the PEOPLE are lining up behind Trump more than Hillary.
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That is the bottom-line. Just look at the donations and you see Trump has more LITTLE PEOPLE than Hillary. People vote, not hedge funds and banks.

Aren't we talking about TPTB? A entity controling the world backed up with trillions of dollar?
I would rather think this wouldn't be a hard task for them especially when there are more then 200 million people eligible to vote. (Im assuming now that the rest of the population is not interested, not able to, not under the influence etc. Pp.)

So some million would be less then 1%.
If TPTB isnt even able to control that amount of people then i would think they have no power anyway.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 08, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
criptix, the quote says 2 million more than Hillary, not 2 million total.

If you think anyone (even a God) is powerful enough to create several million fake donors and not get caught on at least several dozens of them, then you have a serious problem with understanding reality and the math of probability.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 08, 2016, 08:04:22 PM
criptix, the quote says 2 million more than Hillary, not 2 million total.

If you think anyone (even God) is powerful enough to create several million fake donors and not get caught on at least several dozens of them, then you have a serious problem with understanding reality and the math of probability.

My bad, you are obviously correct regarding the 2 million more.

Regarding the second point i would disagree.
Under the premise that TPTB controls most of our society even if several fake donors would try to leak the story there would be just to many ways to shut them down (i.e. COINTELPRO, death etc.).

btw. i looked it up because armstrong wasnt very precise there:


Clinton counted 2.3 million donors as of the end of August, the result of decades of campaigning, a previous presidential bid and allies who painstakingly built her an email file of supporters even before she formally announced her second run. But Trump had zoomed to 2.1 million donors in the past three months alone, his campaign has said.





Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 09, 2016, 02:21:02 AM
btw. i looked it up because armstrong wasnt very precise there:


Clinton counted 2.3 million donors as of the end of August, the result of decades of campaigning, a previous presidential bid and allies who painstakingly built her an email file of supporters even before she formally announced her second run. But Trump had zoomed to 2.1 million donors in the past three months alone, his campaign has said.

It is not the end of August. The rate at which he was accumulating donors means he is at several million. He has (or had) raised > $100 million and if an average donation less than $200, so it is roughly 5+ million.

You obviously don't live in the USA if you think Trump isn't very popular.

Regarding the second point i would disagree.
Under the premise that TPTB controls most of our society even if several fake donors would try to leak the story there would be just to many ways to shut them down (i.e. COINTELPRO, death etc.).

As I said, you seem to have no comprehension of the math of large numbers. Enjoy your delusional fantasy.

Do the TPTB control you absolutely? They don't control my every day decisions. The banksters control some aspects of the macro economics, but they can't possibly micromanage every individual's life.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 09, 2016, 06:42:59 AM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hillary-maybe-just-what-the-model-needs-to-finish-off-the-economy/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 09, 2016, 08:14:06 AM
*puts on tinfoil hat* Will (((They))) sacrifice the old witch in order to steal the election from Trump and start war with Russia ? : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/12/the-man-who-discovered-cte-thinks-hillary-clinton-may-have-been-poisoned/

That Washington Post article indicates to me that they are potentially planning to blame Putin and/or Trump for poisoning Hellary, as another excuse to never allow Trump to carry out his plans to take back the USA from banksters.

And I wouldn't put it past the banksters to have been the ones who poisoned Hellary to give her Parkinsons.

We headed into a Tribulations.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: trollercoaster on October 09, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
Yeah I do believe so, the establishment is hungry for war.

Russia popped up out of nowhere on the turning point of 2015.75 some kind of show down with them now seems inevitable..

These are interesting times man, the scandals and corruption rolls off their backs like water off a duck, this whole round of politics is totally insane.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 09, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
Russia popped up out of nowhere on the turning point of 2015.75 some kind of show down with them now seems inevitable..

Precisely to the day of Armstrong's ECM model Oct 1 (2015.75) was the day Russia went hot into Syria.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Wosterlee on October 09, 2016, 01:33:18 PM
Trump is in with the banksters. I formed this opinion based on 3 observations:

1. His son-in-law and campaign manager is Jared Kushner, and is part of the Jewish money power

2. He is an ally of Isreal as he has stated many times

3. His campaign is based on playing with the emotions of the oppressed people, not on facts or any strategy


Face it. After years of oppression by bought off politicians/presidents now suddenly a guy appears and speaks 'his mind'. What a breath of fresh air all of a sudden for the American people. Will the Deep State and Hillary Clinton, who have ruled over America for 100 years whitout anyone knowing it, be defeated by this one narcissistic guy?

No, of course not. They shot down JFK and since then the political power in America have been corrupted even more. Trump would never make it this far if he wasn't in it.

Trump is being pushed forward by the banking elite because it is time to get rid of America as the world's leader and pass the baton over to China and then to a reformed UN/IMF. The bankers want to rule the world using the UN as global government and the IMF as central bank, probably for the next 666 digital currency as you stated many times.

The same narrative is being displayed in Europe: get rid of the EU, back to sovereign nations on one condition: bow down for the UN.

They create the problems, they present the solution, which furthers their agenda.

Russia's Putin is in the same boat; speaks with Henry Kissinger regularly and wasn't elected democratically. There are no borders/nations anymore. Their only purpose is for the peasants to believe in them so that the bankers can orchestrate another war.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: virtualx on October 09, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
Trump is in with the banksters. I formed this opinion based on 3 facts:

1. His son-in-law and campaign manager is Jared Kushner, and is part of the Jewish money power

2. He is an ally of Isreal as he has stated many times

3. His campaign is based on playing on the emotions of the oppressed little peoples, not on facts or any strategy

Both Clinton and Trump campaign is based on emotion. They talk about China taking our jobs, but I don't see business replacing Chinese workers (1$ a day) with Americans (> 70$ a day). Maybe their plan is to replace the outsourcing with American prison workers for low salary, but I don't see them giving those jobs to average Americans.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 09, 2016, 02:40:02 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/08/scary-truth-about-what-putin-really-wants-and-obama-s-willful-ignorance.html


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 09, 2016, 02:43:46 PM
3. His campaign is based on playing on the emotions of the oppressed little peoples, not on facts or any strategy

Both Clinton and Trump campaign is based on emotion. They talk about China taking our jobs, but I don't see business replacing Chinese workers (1$ a day) with Americans (> 70$ a day). Maybe their plan is to replace the outsourcing with American prison workers for low salary, but I don't see them giving those jobs to average Americans.

Disagree:

Trump can't be allowed to take office:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/trumps-15-corporate-tax-rate/

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Trump’s 15% Corporate Tax Rate

While the GOP elite are doing everything they can to make sure Hillary beats Trump just to hold on to their power base, the real business community that creates jobs, not the bankers and multinationals, are excited about Trump’s tax plan to reduce corporate taxes to 15%. es that is what I testified before Congress on back in the Nineties.  Between excess reserves at the Fed and nearly $3 trillion in cash multinational have offshore to avoid taxes, if we took a 15% corporate tax rate, 70% of jobs are created by small business. That would ignite at last a real economic recovery. Then outlaw the Fed paying interest to the banks for NOT lending money, and what we will get is something spectacular. You will have about $5 trillion freed up in an economy that is $18 trillion. It would not be that hard to create jobs and an economic boom. All government has to do is end the socialism. The same formula would work in Europe.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 09, 2016, 03:32:37 PM
btw. i looked it up because armstrong wasnt very precise there:


Clinton counted 2.3 million donors as of the end of August, the result of decades of campaigning, a previous presidential bid and allies who painstakingly built her an email file of supporters even before she formally announced her second run. But Trump had zoomed to 2.1 million donors in the past three months alone, his campaign has said.

It is not the end of August. The rate at which he was accumulating donors means he is at several million. He has (or had) raised > $100 million and if an average donation less than $200, so it is roughly 5+ million.

You obviously don't live in the USA if you think Trump isn't very popular.

Regarding the second point i would disagree.
Under the premise that TPTB controls most of our society even if several fake donors would try to leak the story there would be just to many ways to shut them down (i.e. COINTELPRO, death etc.).

As I said, you seem to have no comprehension of the math of large numbers. Enjoy your delusional fantasy.

Do the TPTB control you absolutely? They don't control my every day decisions. The banksters control some aspects of the macro economics, but they can't possibly micromanage every individual's life.

Why would they need to control me duh?

See if you read the politico article they are explaning the donation amount and the amount of donators pretty precise in relation to the armstrong article.

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It is impossible to piece together a complete picture of Trump’s finances due to different reporting deadlines for Trump’s various committees. But as of the end of July, he had amassed $50 million in small contributions into his campaign, FEC records show. He has since announced he raised $90 million in August “mostly” from small donors both directly for his campaign and in joint committees shared with the Republican National Committee — suggesting at least $45 million raised last month came from small contributors. Additionally, there is some money from small contributors in those shared RNC accounts — Trump said they contained $37 million at the end of July — that he has helped raise.


About TPTB control:

No they dont control me but am i a trump donator?
Even if there are 5 million "trump donators" (which is not true see above) that is less then 2% of the US population and less then 0.1% of the world population.

Whoever gets out of line could get easily dealt with.
Just look at the cold war for examples.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 07:13:04 AM
About TPTB control:

No they dont control me but am i a trump donator?
Even if there are 5 million "trump donators" (which is not true see above) that is less then 2% of the US population and less then 0.1% of the world population.

Whoever gets out of line could get easily dealt with.
Just look at the cold war for examples.

Lol. What a (math probability) retard.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 07:14:20 AM
Oh Trump, like many young men was joking to another young man about grabbing the pussy of a female... so that makes him on par evil as the Clintons... (as if this isn't something natural that happens to many if not most confident young men)

NOT!

An perverted old woman (and a pervertednormal old man) that would rapes women himherself...

ftfy, you feminist buffoon

“Shortly after the Clintons entered the White House, I received a call from someone connected with the Secret Service. I was told an agent was patrolling the second floor and caught Hillary in bed with another woman. Hillary threw an ashtray at the agent and hit him in the head. I didn’t believe it. Then a piece made the press that noted that agents were no longer allowed to patrol the second floor since one was injured in the head.”

Even Linda Tripp, who exposed Bill’s affair with Monica who worked in the White House and her office was next to Hillary’s, warned Hillary must NEVER become President. Tripp warns that Hillary is a liar and treats the public with contempt. This is why she set up her own server to hide everything from the Freedom of Information Act requests. With what became known as “Bimbo Eruptions” with Bill, Tripp said it was Hillary who would ruthless destroy their reputations to cast them as liars. Tripp also had to go to London to get her story out as did Flowers and of course Snowden.

All I can say is that Hillary had always a reputation for having a gutter mouth, nasty, liar, and the one in charge in her relationship that was purely for political gain. She had also had a reputation that she would do absolutely anything to be the first woman president.


While his comments are outrageous, he conceded:  “I’ve said some foolish things but there is a big difference between the words and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women.” On that score he is correct. There are countless stories about Bill even flying with his friend who went to prison for exploiting under-aged girls to his private island (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html) where his friend had sex with girls who have said they were sex slaves. Bill told the Secret Service not to go on those trips. One of the girls who said she was held as a sex slave, Virginia Roberts (http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sex-slave-makes-disturbing-accusations-bill-clinton/), has come out and the press ignores everything from the Clinton side. So there is clearly a huge double standard here.

Why have the Democrats not demanded that Hillary step down? Simply, the career politicians do not want ANYONE who is an outsider to run the White House and upset their world of perks.


Cathy O’Brien describes her sexual assault perpetrated by Hillary Clinton in her book, Trance Formation of America, at Swiss Villa-Lampe, Missouri, 1983.

“Hillary Clinton is the only female to become sexually aroused at the sight of my mutilated vagina”.

‘Eat me, oh god, eat me now’ –Hillary Clinton

My name is Cathleen (Cathy) Ann O’Brien, born 12/4/57 in Muskegon, Michigan. I have prepared this book for your review and edification concerning a little known tool that “our” United States Government is covertly, illegally, and un-constitutionally using to implement the New World Order (One World Government). This well documented tool is a sophisticated and advanced form of behavior modification (brainwashing) most commonly known as MIND CONTROL. My first hand knowledge of this TOP SECRET U.S. Government Psychological Warfare technique is drawn from my personal experience as a White House “Presidential Model” mind-control slave.

Much of the information enclosed herein has been corroborated and validated through brave and courageous “clean” members of the law enforcement, scientific, and Intelligence communities familiar with this case. These individuals’ efforts helped me to understand and corroborate what happened after a lifetime of systematic physical and psychological torture orchestrated to modify my behavior through totally controlling my mind.


Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epstein’s getaway in 2002

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

One victim, in sworn deposition testimony, said Epstein began sexually assaulting her when she was 13 years old and molested her on more than 50 occasions over the next three years. The girls testified they were lured to Epstein’s home after being promised hundreds of dollars to be his model or masseuse, but when they arrived, he ordered them to take off their clothes and massage his naked body while he masturbated and used sex toys on them.

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida prepared charging documents that accused Epstein of child sex abuse, witness tampering and money laundering, but Epstein took a plea deal before an indictment could be handed up.


A new Wikileaks hacked email directly links Hillary Clinton, Colin Powell and Henry Kissinger to the Bohemian Grove, mentioning the notorious occult playground of the globalist elite by name.

The hacked email, sent by Sidney Blumenthal to Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State, describes Democrats and Republicans colluding with globalists at the Bohemian Grove and working the agreed message into the national narrative.

This is not the first time Clinton, Powell or Kissinger have been linked to the Bohemian Grove. Hacked pictures of Powell partying with elites and actors at the top-secret resort were leaked by the original Guccifer  in 2013.


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Richard Nixon, "Bohemian Grove is Gayest Place on the Planet"

...


Austin, TX -- Last July, documentary filmmaker Alex Jones infiltrated Bohemian Grove, becoming the first person to capture the bizarre occult activities of the all-male elite club membership on videotape. This footage recently aired in England, Ireland and Scotland on UK Channel Four as Part Three of a four-part special: The Secret Rulers of the World.

Alex Jones was inside the 2,700 acre elite compound for over five hours, and states, "Thank God I caught the whole thing on videotape because no one would believe me if I hadn’t. I have trouble believing what I witnessed with my own two eyes. It was actually that bizarre."

For over 128 years, world leaders have traveled to Sonoma County California in the month of July. Almost immediately, bizarre rumors began to circulate in the local press that something dark and occult was going on. The rumors entailed dark stories of men in black and red robes and a giant 40-foot stone owl, to which something, or someone was being sacrificed.

Alex Jones, being a radio talk-show host had heard the rumors many times, so he decided to look into it and did some research. To his surprise, mainstream media articles from Parade Magazine, the Associated Press, Reuters, the Sacramento Bee, and the Washington Times confirmed the incredible. World leaders were traveling yearly to the rural redwood-covered hills of Northern California and photos actually existed of the giant stone owl and the men in black and red robes.

"I was angered," Jones said, "that in over 50 years there had been only a handful of news stories written on Bohemian Grove, and that these stories calmly reported on the rumors and engaged in a whitewash, thus hiding a giant story in plain view."


Reading about all the law enforcement and Secret Service protecting the Grove’s mysteries every July, Jones took the challenge of Jon Ronson of World of Wonder Productions to "blow Bohemian Grove wide-open with his hidden cameras."

After traveling from Austin, Texas to San Francisco, Jones and the other members of his team met up with the British filmmakers and began a three-day investigation before attempting to enter the Grove.

On July 15, 2000, Alex Jones and his assistant Mike, equipped with two hidden video cameras and disguised as members of the Bohemian Club successfully infiltrated the elite cult compound.

One of the most commonly asked questions is: How did they get in?

Following is a transcript of a taped interview with Alex Jones, who describes his infiltration of the super-secret elitist camp and what he witnessed inside:

...

By then, the shadows were getting long and it was just a few minutes until dusk. We started to hear bizarre chanting and singing coming from down below us in the gorge. So we traveled back into the gorge. On our way back down, we saw thousands of men chanting and singing drunkenly beneath the giant redwoods.

It was like something out of a fantasy novel. I expected to see a dragon come hopping by any moment. There were huge skulls hanging down from the floodlights, satanic-styled owls with glowing eyes, (a lot of trappings of death) that we could now see in the twilight illuminated by the large floodlights.

The feasting revelers were beginning to break up and to travel down paths towards the lake. We decided to go ahead and mix in with them and go where they were going. They were going towards the east side of the bank about 100 yards across the north tip of the lake where the idol and altar stood.

As we were walking around the lake, the only black man we saw, a very large man, saw myself and Mike walking very quickly compared to other members in the crowd (we wanted to get a good place on the east side of the bank to watch the Cremation of Care ritual – most of the rumors I had heard were now coming true).

He said, "trouble yourselves not! Take it easy! The cares of the world are off your shoulders! You’re not supposed to walk that fast." He then gave us two full-color programs. On the cover of the program, they show Moloch, the big owl, with a burning body enflamed beneath it (the program can be viewed at infowars.com). Also a little demon, with the initials PJ was sweeping up someone’s ashes on the lower left-hand corner of the program (which is also on my film, Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove).

Thousands of the men began to gather on the eastern bank, private servants (as opposed to the Bohemian Grove employees, who all wear red shirts and who weren’t allowed to be present for the ritual) began to put out chairs for their elderly employers.

The sun had now sunk behind the hill. It was completely dark and you couldn’t even see the other side of the water. There were bats flying around and a lot of natural fog building on the surface of the water (there is a lot of fog in Northern California that time of year).

Picture this , if Count Dracula lived in North America, he would live in Sonoma County. This was spooky stuff. The hair on the back of my neck was beginning to stand up at this point.

Then, out of the woods, all of the sudden came thirty priests in black robes, their faces painted up like death, with a man dressed like the Grim Reaper pulling a wagon with a bound body. Then we noticed something that we had seen during the day. Large black canopies had been unfurled out of the trees on the western side of the bank (we’re on the eastern side – only about 70 yards away at that point) and they unfurled those, and the wagon pulled behind it.

The men then began to yell out, "burn him again! He’s going to get what he deserves!

Now, I must digress and say that the reason I was able to see the priest in the black robes, the priest painted-up like death, and the bound body on the back of the wagon, was because they were all carrying torches. The place was pretty illuminated by the torches being carried by the thirty priests in front and the thirty priests behind the wagon.

Probably out of the entire ritual that I witnessed, the most important aspect of the ceremony was what happened first. The wagon went behind these big black sheets hanging out of the trees, down to the ground, obscuring the view, and for about 10 minutes nothing happened.

It was quiet except for the hateful shouts of the old men, who said things like, "Oh yeah! Burn that bastard! Kill him! That’s what he deserves!" All we could hear was them whispering and smacking their lips. This went on and on.

Now on the west side of the bank, (we’re were on the east side, about 60-70 yards away) at the front, about 100 yards away on the north side, is the idol, sitting in darkness. No one was paying attention to that. Everyone was disoriented as they stared across the water at whatever was happening behind those black curtains with that bound body.

Whether it was an effigy or real, we do not know. (This is kind of like the Skull and Bones ritual that the New York Observer caught on tape. They claim that the video shows them slitting the throats of ceremonial effigies.) Is all of this in effigy? We don’t know.

...

We dismissed the behavior as immature, even pitiful by emotionally disturbed juveniles and not worth attention. This is where Kissinger, Ford, Nixon, Bechtel, Bush, Cheney, Hoover and their friends (2600 members) hang out and "relax." And if they want to behave as little boys that is their privilege, it is private property.

Recent [O'Brien and Phillips, TRANCE Formation of America (pp 170-1)] information may radically change this perception of Bohemian Grove. Not merely drunkenness, unbounded use of alcohol and drugs with vague homosexual tones (confirmed by our sources) but reported activities much more serious - kidnapping, rape, pedophilia, sodomy, ritual murder. Investigation is blocked under the 1947 National Security Act. (!) And like the Omaha child abuse case, includes illegal detention of children.

According to an observer and near victim, who can describe the Bohemian Grove inner hideaways, the closed sanctum, even the decor at secret locations, places where no outsider goes (or servants according to our sources) there is an UNDERGROUND lounge (sign spelled U.N.derground) a Dark Room, a Leather Room and a Necrophilia Room.

Here is one of O'Brien's quote "Slaves of advancing age or with failed programming were sacrificially murdered at random in the wooded grounds of Bohemian Grove and I felt it was only a matter of time until it would be me."

This potential victim survived. Others reportedly did not.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 08:09:33 AM
Clintons busted by Trump!

https://youtu.be/OyDSCKYz5sA?t=800


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 08:17:55 AM
Oh my! Trump declares war on the Clintons!

https://youtu.be/OyDSCKYz5sA?t=1125

They will kill him. This is incredible.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 08:43:47 AM
Clinton is a globalist liar same as Merkel. Here she is using the lie of "women and children" refugees:

https://youtu.be/OyDSCKYz5sA?t=2360

1. When we know that most of the "refugees" who fled into Europe were males.
2. Hillary was the one who created the Syrian problem and was feeding weapons into Syria via the Benghazi embassy in Libra (and this why she had the ambassador murdered so the truth wouldn't be come out).
3. This is the same globalist methodology of creating a problem so they can offer a "solution" which is actually creating a larger problem.
4. They are trying to divide-and-conquer the culture, economics, and values of the Westerners. This is part of their plan to end the nation-states and create a world government.

arious excerpts of her speeches that were contained in e-mails which were sent to campaign chairman John Podesta were leaked today by Wikileaks. This new batch demonstrate clearly that whatever she says in public is opposite of what she says in private.

When it comes to trade, she said: “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders,” when speaking to a Brazilian Bank back in 2013. She also said: “We have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade.”

Clinton’ campaign research director Tony Carrk has been extremely concerned in trying to cover-up this mess. He wrote just in January 2016 in an email to John Podesta writing some possible headlines the press might use:

“CLINTON ADMITS SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH,” “CLINTON SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE A PRIVATE AND PUBLIC POSITION ON POLICY,” and “CLINTON REMARKS ARE PRO KEYSTONE AND PRO TRADE.”


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 02:57:11 PM
About TPTB control:

No they dont control me but am i a trump donator?
Even if there are 5 million "trump donators" (which is not true see above) that is less then 2% of the US population and less then 0.1% of the world population.

Whoever gets out of line could get easily dealt with.
Just look at the cold war for examples.

Lol. What a (math probability) retard.

Why can't the omnipotent elite keep the damn flies off of Shitlary's face at debates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JtvNP_YmVE

You math retard. Ever heard of Chaos Theory and the Butterfly effect?


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 10, 2016, 04:26:44 PM
About TPTB control:

No they dont control me but am i a trump donator?
Even if there are 5 million "trump donators" (which is not true see above) that is less then 2% of the US population and less then 0.1% of the world population.

Whoever gets out of line could get easily dealt with.
Just look at the cold war for examples.

Lol. What a (math probability) retard.

Why can't the omnipotent elite keep the damn flies off of Shitlary's face at debates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JtvNP_YmVE

You math retard. Ever heard of Chaos Theory and the Butterfly effect?

For the same reason hillary is candidate for president?
For the same reason why there are 70.000 missing emails that just wont come out to light?
Ever got the idea this is all orchestrated?
Duh look at your thread and arguments. It is not me who put forth incoherent arguments.

Im pretty sure you are a cold war kid. I guess you know how many secret wars and coup d'etats the usa has been involved with and organised? Not to talk about cia black projects a la mk ultra, drug and human trafficking?

This kind of stuff came out to public several decades after it was over.
How can you even think that some hundred thousand or a million fake donations would be hard to organise.

There are multinational corporations that have more workers.

How can you think tptb can manipulate the world into ww3 (us vs russia) and then say they cant manipulate some million ppl.
Wtf?
Get real.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 10, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/08/scary-truth-about-what-putin-really-wants-and-obama-s-willful-ignorance.html

I'm not even sure Putin has to do anything, we've been destroying our American values ourselves. I think what Putin really wants is an end to the petrodollar, and I think that's what Syria represents.

from "deception was my job" Yuri Bezmenov, a warning:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 04:39:19 PM
For the same reason why there are 70.000 missing emails that just wont come out to light?

Wikileaks.

Ever got the idea this is all orchestrated?

You are too dumb to realize there is a logic (and math/physics probability) distinction between the ability to cause some events to happen and the ability to not allow any errant event to happen.

Take your unlearned 110 IQ away from me.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 10, 2016, 04:43:01 PM
About TPTB control:

No they dont control me but am i a trump donator?
Even if there are 5 million "trump donators" (which is not true see above) that is less then 2% of the US population and less then 0.1% of the world population.

Whoever gets out of line could get easily dealt with.
Just look at the cold war for examples.

Lol. What a (math probability) retard.

Why can't the omnipotent elite keep the damn flies off of Shitlary's face at debates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JtvNP_YmVE

You math retard. Ever heard of Chaos Theory and the Butterfly effect?

https://i.sli.mg/Z9FmZZ.png


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&feature=youtu.be

This is so true. That is why we just need to discard all the idiots, because they are hopelessly brain washed.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 10, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
For the same reason why there are 70.000 missing emails that just wont come out to light?

Wikileaks.

Ever got the idea this is all orchestrated?

You are too dumb to realize there is a logic (and math/physics probability) distinction between the ability to cause some events to happen and the ability to not allow any errant event to happen.

Take your 110 IQ away from me.

Wikileask the cia honeypot... and they only have a minor part.


So your are stating that pushing the world into WW3 is an easier task then faking a million donations?
I would guess no more then 89 iq :)

I dont think you realize that forming a conspiracy doesnt imply that everyone involved knows everything.
If you want someone to donate 200$ to donald trump you dont have to tell him what your masterplan behind that is.
And for the rest you can just kill them.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 04:47:41 PM
I would guess no more then 89 iq :)

Thanks for the correction. Yeah you still didn't get the math point.

The math point has nothing to do with how Wikileaks got the emails or what the true status of Wikileaks is. The math point is only that some of the damaging emails are being leaked (regardless).

What you also fail to understand is that total orders (omniscience) can't exist unless the speed-of-light can't be quantified, but then nothing would exist. This is fundamental Second Law of Thermodynamics stuff that you are not aware of.

This is currently beyond your level of comprehension.

Even with 9/11, the truth leaked out.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 10, 2016, 04:58:44 PM
I would guess no more then 89 iq :)

Thanks for the correction. Yeah you still didn't get the math point.

The math point has nothing to do with how Wikileaks got the emails or what the true status of Wikileaks is. The math point is only that some of the damaging emails are being leaked.

What you also fail to understand is that total orders (omniscience) can't exist unless the speed-of-light can't be quantified, but then nothing would exist. This is fundamental Second Law of Thermodynamics stuff that you are not aware of.

This is currently beyond your level of comprehension.

You realize i just showed you historical examples of such conspiracies (cold war)?
There is no need of a deus ex machina. Even if something gets leaked (wiki leak emails) you can downplay and make it forgotten with psyops and similar (hillary is still candidate for president).


Please explain how your math argument works with TPTB declaring martial law and war with russia. Dont they have to manipulate majority of us americans and russians (not even talking about the rest of the world that doesnt want to live in a nuclear winter)?

Your argumentation doesnt make sense especially when we have real life historic events that shows otherwise.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Dont they have to manipulate majority

And you still don't get the math point? (note majority != 100.00000000000000000000000000000000%)

Our original disagreement is over whether the elite could prevent every single donor fraud (your alleged fraud with no proof at all) from being revealed.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 10, 2016, 05:09:39 PM
Dont they have to manipulate majority

And you still don't get the math point? (note majority != 100.00000000000000000000000000000000%)

Our original disagreement is over whether the elite could prevent even single donor fraud (your alleged fraud with no proof at all) from being revealed.

Im pretty sure i get your math argument.
I just dont understand why it is so hard for you to understand that TPTB should be able to easily surpress such a leak in the public and put is as a conspiracy or similar (i.e. 50% of americans believe 9/11 was a false flag).


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 05:20:44 PM
Dont they have to manipulate majority

And you still don't get the math point? (note majority != 100.00000000000000000000000000000000%)

Our original disagreement is over whether the elite could prevent even single donor fraud (your alleged fraud with no proof at all) from being revealed.

I just dont understand why it is so hard for you to understand that TPTB should be able to easily surpress such a leak in the public and put is as a conspiracy or similar (i.e. 50% of americans believe 9/11 was a false flag).

Your backsplaining hasn't explained the bolded part.[1]

We are done. Please stop trolling my thread.

[1] our issue  wasn't what the mass perception would be, but that we have not a single instance of allegation of donor fraud where the elite were constructing fake $200 donors to Trump's campaign.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 10, 2016, 05:22:51 PM
Notice how the elite's mass media is lying about poll results.

Here is what online polls say:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/online-polls-declare-trump-winner-of-presidential-debate/

Here is what the mass media's polls say:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/who-won-the-debate-polls-betting-markets-focus-groups.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/presidential-debate-poll-winner-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-a7353391.html

Alleged possible coaching of CNN focus group:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/cnn-possibly-caught-coaching-post-debate-focus-group-video/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 11, 2016, 07:15:56 AM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas-current-economy/war-cycle-of-target-sad-to-say/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/10/gorbachev-warns-world-is-at-dangerous-point-amid-us-russian-face/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 12, 2016, 05:23:15 AM
Notice how the elite's mass media is lying about poll results.

Here is what online polls say:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/online-polls-declare-trump-winner-of-presidential-debate/

Here is what the mass media's polls say:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/who-won-the-debate-polls-betting-markets-focus-groups.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/presidential-debate-poll-winner-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-a7353391.html

Alleged possible coaching of CNN focus group:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/cnn-possibly-caught-coaching-post-debate-focus-group-video/

Trump called it out on The O'Reilly Factor tonight, if Hillary didn't own the media she'd be at 10% right now.

The tide is turning and they're starting to turn on themselves.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/msnbc-calls-nbcwsj-survey-a-cooked-poll-stay-focused/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 12, 2016, 08:24:33 AM
The USA will split into regions because of this...

Trump is a horrible human being. he has raped numerous women and paid them off to shut up.

Provide proof of this, otherwise I will accuse you of being a horrible human being for lying. You can't just judge people without proof, because that makes you worse than the person you are judging.

Matthew 7 New International Version (NIV)

Judging Others
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

most recently last month. he has openly stated that he has sexually assaulted women.

I did not hear about this. Provide proof, otherwise I think you are a liar, because I've seen some of your other cited references (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1640375.msg16529651#msg16529651) and they are hearsay and mass media propaganda bullshit, not proof.

he is the biggest xenophobe i have ever seen on TV and i have watched every episode of southpark.

Protecting one's culture is not necessarily a bad thing. Look what is happening to Europe now with the rapefugees because of their bleeding hearts.

My read on Trump is he has a lot of compassion for all demographics who are abiding by and protecting our core American values. Sneaking over the border is not one of our core values. Maybe for you as a Liberal, you don't give a fuck about rapefugees, so in that case I think you should live in the country you want to live in and I should live in the country I want to live in.

And the USA is going to break up into regions because of this. There are fundamental differences between those who want to protect their culture and those Liberals who want to destroy our culture. Martin Armstrong's cycles models have been predicting everything that has been happening and they do predict an eventual breakup of the USA into regions because of this. There is nothing you nor I can do to stop this. The disagreement between you and I is fundamental and I will never agree as a man and leader of my household to give up my culture to invaders.

he inspires hate, he plays off fear. and he will sell Americas soul for Klondike bar.

How much hate has Hillary caused in the Middle East and Europe? She orchestrated the chaos in the Middle East, thus leading to the rapefugees. She orchestrated the chaos in Ukraine. She and her The Economic Hitmen banksters are responsible for women and children having their arms and heads hacked off.

Liberals are disingenuous. You can't compare someone who speaks the frank truth about culture and values, to someone who is responsible for millions of horrific mutilations of women and children.

Hellary is Satan incarnate. And I thus by extension, you are also. Don't you come near me nor my family.

Clinton, is a bad leader. i dont want her as a president. but the worst she would do is nothing.

Can you really say that to yourself with a straight face? You are either incredibly ignorant of the facts or a fucking liar trying to manipulate the readers with lies.

trump has already said that he is fine NUKING another country. which will bring about another cold war.

He is speaking figuratively, not literally. He is just presenting the attitude that we will fight for our values and culture, not that he will actually go nuking any country. Afaik, he has never in his business life done anything that violent. Whereas, Clinton has just canceled the nuclear treaty with Russia. And she is sowing problems in the Middle East where Colin Powell recently confirmed Israel has 200 nuclear warheads.

I am not arguing that Trump has the best personality ever. Every person on earth has flaws. But compared to Clinton, he is a Saint and an angel.

he has no idea what the ramifications are for his actions and doesnt care. he will cause WW3, Clinton will just do nothing to prevent it.

You have your head up your ass. Clinton is actively orchestrating WW3.

if trump is elected i am leaving america, if clinton is elected i am going to wait four years till we have options that can make a diffrence.

I am the opposite. If Trump wins, I may return. Else I am never going back and I will renounce my citizenship and may get citizenship in Cambodia (or else where) so I can be a member of the Asian Union which is the future.

you know those moments in poker when you are playing, hilary will call all the way through, not raise, not fold, just ride the hand through. Trump will go all in before he sees his cards, if he gets good cards say that he knew it cause he is a genius and walks away with more money. if he gets shit cards he throws the table saying the game is rigged.

at this point i want to call through. instead of lose everything, instead of destroy everything. i would rather wait another 4 years. i do not want someone to gamble to future of america away with no knowledge or care. because not only is he gambling with america. but the entire wold. we are the youngest country. we are also the strongest. and possibly the most retarded country ever. i dont want the rest of the world to realize that and decide to take matters into their own hands because they were pushed to far from trump.

Trump has been out playing poker and negotiation as evident by his business success. Clinton only knows how to lie, steal, cheat, and sell out to the gansters in order to achieve her goals for power and hatred.


NOTICE: we conservative males are angry at you liberal invaders. And we will put an end to this "passive aggressive" invasion now (yet very aggressive eventually when the collapse stage ensues). One way or another. So don't be fucking surprised that we are angry when you are trying to undermine our households and our way of life.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: igorokavg13 on October 12, 2016, 08:48:58 AM
I think it's possible now, if they fail to get satan incarnate elected they will do something very dirty.

Armstrong isn't being overly sensational imo, there's too much at stake for tptb to allow Trump in the white house.

I don't believe tptb will allow Trump to peacefully take over and put an end to their shenanigans.  :(
Trump will see the white house as their ears ! Russia really invests a lot of money in the victory of the Republicans and in particular his friend Trump. Fortunately, not all you can buy for the money. The Americans realized in time who is Trump.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 12, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
The following states the salient issues very succinctly:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/am-i-biased-for-trump/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: RealityTruth on October 12, 2016, 09:23:00 AM
Albert Pike, a 33-degree freemason, wrote:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 12, 2016, 10:08:29 AM
Albert Pike, a 33-degree freemason, wrote:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

You've taught me something new and very, very important. Thank you.

Readers you must pay attention!

First you must read this to understand that Pike's outline of 3 world wars from the 1800s have played out exactly as he instructed:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/pike.htm


Let me summarize what I have learned. Pike outlined a plan by which the ethnic cultures of resistance (e.g. the former Tzar Russian culture, the Fascists, and the Christians) to atheism and nihilism, would be systemically weakened and destroyed with 3 world wars playing crucial roles in this process. So far, two of the world wars have completed, exactly accomplishing the goals he predicted and explained how to accomplish.

The 3rd world war is designed to exhaust the remaining rationality ("physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion") of the brainwashed atheists and nihilists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16517307#msg16517307) and turn them against the minority remaining revolutionaries (who fight to retain ethnic culture and personal liberty). The multitudes of brainwashed atheists and nihilists "disillusioned with Christianity" whose "deistic" belief is that God allows free-will and doesn't intervene, will be entirely without a rational compass (the Bible refers to them as lukewarm or "Church in Laodicea (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+3&version=NIV)"). They who innately need idols (against the instruction of the 2nd and 3rd Commandments thou shall have no other gods nor idols) and a leader to guide their vacuous brains, will become mesmerized in the aformentioned reactionary repulsion away from the horrors of the said global cataclysm towards the "universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view".

The pure doctrine of Lucifer is absolute control of the human spirit. In other words, to end all individual liberty. The brainwashed masses will think they have freedom, but in reality they are completely mind controlled. See this video to understand (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16517307#msg16517307). Also learn about Antony Sutton's research (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sah_Xni-gtg).

So basically what is to happen is the conversion of human kind into mindless zombies which carry out the plans to control and destroy any human who is not a zombie.  Of course then the zombies will perish also.

It is underway folks. Revelation and the Tribulation has started. And I am not a very religious person, so if I say this, I am speaking somewhat objectively.

Trump can't win in this fight. It is impossible. Too much of the world has already been brainwashed. The resistance to Lucifer is too weak. But Trump and his followers will fight. We are the revolutionaries mentioned by Pike. But we will be destroyed by the zombies.

Btw, I am in the Church of Laodicea or Sardis at this time. Struggling to retain my rationality.



I have more respect for Satanism than Christainity. Both are satanic cults.
The difference is with Satanism what you see is what you get. Take it or leave it. They are quite honest about themselves.
However with Christianity it's all done with deception, trickery, smoke and mirrors, under the guise of love.

Best to do as I do and just ignore both of these cults.

You are not in rational control of your thoughts. I know you think you are. See my prior comment. But it can't help you, because you've already lost all control of rational thought process.

First, separate Christianity the Satanic human religion from the wisdom within the Bible which is about human free-will and liberty. And before you quote the Bible, make sure you understand it is an imperfect document by-design and understand why.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 12, 2016, 02:03:18 PM
Albert Pike, a 33-degree freemason, wrote:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

You've taught me something new and very, very important. Thank you.

Readers you must pay attention!

First you must read this to understand that Pike's outline of 3 world wars from the 1800s have played out exactly as he instructed:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/pike.htm


Let me summarize what I have learned. Pike outlined a plan by which the ethnic cultures of resistance (e.g. the former Tzar Russian culture, the Fascists, and the Christians) to atheism and nihilism, would be systemically weakened and destroyed with 3 world wars playing crucial roles in this process. So far, two of the world wars have completed, exactly accomplishing the goals he predicted and explained how to accomplish.

The 3rd world war is designed to exhaust the remaining rationality ("physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion") of the brainwashed atheists and nihilists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16517307#msg16517307) and turn them against the minority remaining revolutionaries (who fight to retain ethnic culture and personal liberty). The multitudes of brainwashed atheists and nihilists "disillusioned with Christianity" whose "deistic" belief is that God allows free-will and doesn't intervene, will be entirely without a rational compass (the Bible refers to them as lukewarm or "Church in Laodicea (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+3&version=NIV)"). They who innately need idols (against the instruction of the 2nd and 3rd Commandments thou shall have no other gods nor idols) and a leader to guide their vacuous brains, will become mesmerized in the aformentioned reactionary repulsion away from the horrors of the said global cataclysm towards the "universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view".

The pure doctrine of Lucifer is absolute control of the human spirit. In other words, to end all individual liberty. The brainwashed masses will think they have freedom, but in reality they are completely mind controlled. See this video to understand (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16517307#msg16517307). Also learn about Antony Sutton's research (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sah_Xni-gtg).

So basically what is to happen is the conversion of human kind into mindless zombies which carry out the plans to control and destroy any human who is not a zombie.  Of course then the zombies will perish also.

It is underway folks. Revelation and the Tribulation has started. And I am not a very religious person, so if I say this, I am speaking somewhat objectively.

Trump can't win in this fight. It is impossible. Too much of the world has already been brainwashed. The resistance to Lucifer is too weak. But Trump and his followers will fight. We are the revolutionaries mentioned by Pike. But we will be destroyed by the zombies.

Btw, I am in the Church of Laodicea or Sardis at this time. Struggling to retain my rationality.



I have more respect for Satanism than Christainity. Both are satanic cults.
The difference is with Satanism what you see is what you get. Take it or leave it. They are quite honest about themselves.
However with Christianity it's all done with deception, trickery, smoke and mirrors, under the guise of love.

Best to do as I do and just ignore both of these cults.

You are not in rational control of your thoughts. I know you think you are. See my prior comment. But it can't help you, because you've already lost all control of rational thought process.

First, separate Christianity the Satanic human religion from the wisdom within the Bible which is about human free-will and liberty. And before you quote the Bible, make sure you understand it is an imperfect document by-design and understand why.

I stumbled into that letter some time ago

"It is enough having shown that the so-called Pike/Mazzini letter came from the Taxil hoax and to have provided a full translation of it. However, if the reader is so inclined, there are plenty of resources to become familiar with all facets of the Leo Taxil case in the above embedded links."
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/01/10/albert-pike-to-mazzini-august-15-1871-three-world-wars/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 12, 2016, 02:34:16 PM
Notice how the elite's mass media is lying about poll results.

Here is what online polls say:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/online-polls-declare-trump-winner-of-presidential-debate/

Here is what the mass media's polls say:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/who-won-the-debate-polls-betting-markets-focus-groups.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/presidential-debate-poll-winner-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-a7353391.html

Alleged possible coaching of CNN focus group:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/cnn-possibly-caught-coaching-post-debate-focus-group-video/

Trump called it out on The O'Reilly Factor tonight, if Hillary didn't own the media she'd be at 10% right now.

The tide is turning and they're starting to turn on themselves.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/msnbc-calls-nbcwsj-survey-a-cooked-poll-stay-focused/

From my woke friend, who just shared this an hour ago:

Last night a friend claimed that Donald Trump wouldn’t make a good president; he is brash, he is racist, he is a loudmouth; you know the normal things people learn to recite after being programmed by television news. The one I loved was that, “Trump is arrogant.” My friend questioned if one man could make “that much difference in the world today.” To my friend's credit, she was respectful enough to let me respond when she asked, “Really, what has Trump done?”

I said, “In June of last year, Trump entered the race for president. In just a little over a year, Trump has single handedly defeated the Republican party. He did so thoroughly. In fact, he did so in such a resounding way that the Republican Party now suffers from an identity crisis. He literally dismantled the party. Trump even dismantled and dismissed the brand and value of the Bush family.

Trump has Obama petrified that Trump will dismiss programs that weren’t properly installed using proper law.

Trump has single handedly debunked and disemboweled any value of news media as we knew it—news now suffering from an all-time level of distrust and disrespect.

Trump has leaders from all over the world talking about him, whether good or bad. Trust me, powerful men who have been president before weren’t liked by the global community. I doubt Mikhail Gorbachev liked Reagan when Reagan said, "Tear down that wall."

Trump has expressly disclosed the fraud perpetrated on the American public by Hillary Clinton. He has, quite literally, brought Hillary to her knees—if you believe that nervous tension and disorders offer physical side effects and damage.

Trump has unified the silent majority in a way that should be patently frightening to “liberals.”

As the press accuses Trump of being a house of cards, Trump has proven the press is the real house of cards. He has whipped up the entire establishment into pure panic. Trump has exposed them for who they are and worse, what they are. George Clooney was right when he said Trump draws live news coverage of his podium that he’s not yet approached. Thanks, George, you were perfectly correct.

What we see as headline news today are actually the last bubbles from the ship that is now sunk—meaning the standard news media, as a propaganda machine, has been exposed. They have no more value.
In the same way Trump asked the African-American community this question, I asked my friend, ”At this point, what do you have to lose?” We have mass cop shootings, riots in our streets, ambushed cops, double digit inflation, bombs blowing up in our cities, targeted police, #BLM, a skyrocketing jobless rate, no economic growth, privately owned land being seized by the federal government, the worst racial tension in my lifetime, no God in schools, more abortions than ever, illegal aliens pouring into our country, sick veterans receiving no care, and a debt that doubled in seven years to $19 trillion. Are you really happy with the condition of the current system?

One man has done all of this in one year—one guy, and on his own dime. And with everything I’ve written above, you believe Trump hasn't done anything? You claim that you are afraid of Donald Trump? No wonder we’re in trouble. You can say that Trump is a lousy presidential candidate. That’s your right. Just don’t ever say he’s not effective.
That Megan Kelly, FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, Rachel Maddow, the Huffington Post, the New York Times, Raleigh’s News and Observer, the AP, Don Lemon, Jake Tapper, and many more, failed to implement their collectively orchestrated lie on the American people against Trump, is actually a massive testament to Trump. The press colluded pure propaganda to accomplish his demise … and they have collectively failed and miserably.

Here's just one example of how badly America is injured right now. There are high school football players on their knees during the national anthem simply because the press used as propaganda to program those kids to do that very thing. But, these kids are mimicking NFL stars the same way the same kids chooses which brand of football shoe to purchase—they're overtly brain-washed to do that very thing.

Now, we have a generation of children who hate America.

America’s problem isn’t that little children are on their knee in collective disrespect of America. Our problem is that America is on her knee from collective disrespect by Americans.

You can disrespect America all you want. But, it’s high-time you respect the silent majority. Because they’re not simply the “silent majority” as you’ve been trained to believe when Hillary calls them “deplorables.” The fact is, they are simply the majority. And now they're no longer silent either. Donald Trump changed all of that, single-handedly and within one year.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 12, 2016, 03:32:39 PM
I stumbled into that letter some time ago
"It is enough having shown that the so-called Pike/Mazzini letter came from the Taxil hoax and to have provided a full translation of it. However, if the reader is so inclined, there are plenty of resources to become familiar with all facets of the Leo Taxil case in the above embedded links."
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/01/10/albert-pike-to-mazzini-august-15-1871-three-world-wars/

So the prediction of 3 world wars is a hoax, but there was actually a letter in 1871 and it does portend much the same, just without the specific predictions for 3 world wars:

Quote
The political action leader for Universal Freemasonry invited the supreme dogmatic leader of the sect to draw up a clear plan with a view toward the destruction of Roman Catholicism.

...

“The destruction of feeble Catholicism, cannot be accomplished all at once, and erecting good Catholicism also requires a lot of labour, working in tandem, which should be pursued simultaneously

...

“God-King Lucifer will have the whole world consecrated and worshipping him; his religion will therefore truly be Catholic.

“The title of Catholic does not, in fact, belong to Roman superstition. Through revelation, it is certain that its number will never reach, at its apogee, a quarter of the world’s population

...

“It is necessary that we consider the religious situation of humanity, if we want to safely proceed with the work of twice-over destroying the temple of Adonai and building the temple of Lucifer. This preliminary look will give us courage and hope in the realization of our divine plight; for we show that the future is ours, and the title Catholics is reserved for ourselves. [p. 596]

...

“The Jewish religion has seven million adherents; this small group has no tendency toward conversion to Roman Catholicism; revelation has promised it to us.

“Finally, statisticians estimate that twenty-eight million deistic freethinkers are scattered throughout the globe, while atheists have two million.

...

“But it is not appropriate to consider the whole Christian group as being alienated from true light [of Lucifer] to the same degree. Protestantism, its various factions, except a tiny minority, are composed of followers of reason, who understand and continuously seek truth, and, therefore, find it; is from them that we find the most numerous followers of the God-Good [Lucifer]. On the other hand, the Orthodox schismatics fell prey to the promised Evil-God

...

“The conversion of Protestants to the Temple of True Light will be gradual, sayeth the revelation; the fate of the Mohammedans will be entirely determined by a large and unexpected event occurring under the sixth sovereign pontificate of good [Luciferian] Catholicism.

...

“According to the revelation, Roman Catholicism will always be in decline; [p. 597] either desertions or conquest of souls will increase the number of free-thinking deists, and we know that they are in a state of transition while we are finally promised.

“On the other hand, we needn’t worry about transitioning the state of the Indian group, for its priests already possess true light [of Lucifer].

“Therefore, at the appointed hour in the Book of the Heavens, that is to say, when Roman Catholicism reaches its maximum number of followers through by uniting with Orthodoxy or schismatics, more than one billion Luciferian Catholics will be found in opposition.

...

“To speak here of the Christian group, tactics will vary as we maneuver in countries dominated by the Roman Catholic element or in countries dominated by the Protestant element.

“The main work is one that aims to transform the Roman Catholics into freethinking Deists. We need to apply all our strength, and with that, persuade many. Experience has shown that too-few are the privileged souls who leap from the abyss of obscurantism to take their bold flight into the ether of divine and invigorating light.

“For this he must conquer the seats of government of his people; this is everything. Whether in the republics or the monarchist states, we must enact laws, destroying everywhere the influence of the priests

...

It will, first, be through the press that we inspire writers, demonstrating how the almsgiving of the Evil-Catholics is degrading to human dignity, and this by showing that the individual has the right to well-being through social reforms and not by routine charity

...

“In the intellectual sphere, especially, the neutrality of the public schools must be secured so that it is no longer pervaded by priests, nor any of their agents; then, early in the stages of neutralization, we divert any thoughts the parents may have to give their children a Roman Catholic education outside of the neutralized schools.

...

But at the same time we must take serious steps to ensure that formal education is neutral and does not fall into atheism; neutrality is sufficient

...

In fact, their exists in the human soul an innate sense that pushes the individual toward a divine ideal, which makes him instinctively understand the existence of a Supreme Being, the supernatural factor, the organizer and driving force of the universe. We’ll let this sentiment develop freely, that is to say, without criminally directing them against superstition, the religion of the Evil-God, but imported from abroad in the half-light of a vague deism, but uncontaminated by the pestiferous breath of Roman Catholicism; and when the hour of the Good-God manifests, truly worthy of humanity’s worship, the children turned men will address their aspirations to Him

...

It is therefore absolutely necessary that the atheist teacher clearly be removed from school, lest he try to introduce [his own dogma]

...

“On the other hand, through legislative means or otherwise, recruitment of the Roman Catholic priesthood must be restrained. It would be beneficial to give young priests actual knowledge of social life, falsely portrayed by their teachers. It will be necessary to have confident woman who devote themselves to the benefits and initiations of the Good-God. The results obtained in this way will be fruitful; for one of two things will happen: either the adonaite priest, once he has tasted the sweet joys papal barbarism forbade, will resign from the clergy, thus demonstrating to the public that nature condemns, absolutely, systematic celibacy; or he will remain in the priestly caste, secretly with us, not as an ally but entirely ours, rendering the most valuable service toward undermining the Temple of Adonai.

...

“In Western nations, once the new religious regime will be legalized, it will drastically suppress these dangerous propagandists who call themselves missionaries and preach to our brothers in Asia, and among the heathen in Africa and Oceania whom we must convert, carrying falsehoods and poisonous sermons. Governments shall prohibit, under severe penalties, these detestable emigrations, which are liable to provoke incessant conflicts with Asian nations, whose faith has become so perfectly illuminated by the efforts of the wise Tibetan priests, united with our auxiliary masonry in India and China, and deserving of respect. And without waiting for the appointed time of these events, every Mason has a duty to fight, through the pen and the word, the so-called Catholic missionaries, and trumpet throughout the secular world contempt and inextinguishable hatred. These missionaries are our mortal enemies. Any Freemason, who refuses to fight, will be deemed a traitor; whosoever joins them or supports such action with public praise, will be beaten to death.

“Finally, it is useful to maintain in the lower classes of any nation, the ferment of revolutionary ideas, even those socialists prone to extreme violence. Atheism is bad in itself and to hijack its true purpose and work toward humane antichristian restoration, [p. 605] we need to channel it and mix it with the most exaggerated social doctrines, which are destined for failure, occasioned by a momentary disruption, immediately followed by an energetic reaction.

“In the last stage, however, first we discredit the superstitious theory of divinity in such a way that those steeped in adonaisme detach gradually and eventually no longer believe at all, the last priests of adonaisme eroded and fragmented will be entirely won in the era of the new religious regime, which will be a state of transition, like free-thinking deism; secondly, we’ll take care to not suddenly wrest from the multitudes the belief in the supernatural God, but, at every opportunity, we’ll remain content to proclaim the existence of a Supreme Being, without announcing publicly yet our traditions and our mystic revelations. So sayeth the God-Good.

“Therefore, when the autocratic Empire of Russia will become the citadel of papist adonaism, we shall unleash the revolutionary nihilists and atheists, and provoke a formidable social cataclysm, which will demonstrate clearly to the nations, in all its horror, the effect of absolute unbelief, mother of savagery and of the bloodiest disorder. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the mad minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate these destroyers of civilization; and the countless disillusioned adonaites, whose deist soul have up until that time remained without a compass, thirsting for an ideal, but not knowing which God is worthy of tribute, will receive the True Light, by the universal manifestation of the pure Luciferian doctrine, at last made public, an event that will arise from a reactionary movement following the destruction of atheism and adonaism, together at the same time vanquished and exterminated.

“The birth of the religion of the Good-God Lucifer, established and unrivalled on the earth, cannot be an instantaneous operation, neither in one year nor a century. A lasting achievement is that which is created by slow progression. The nineteenth century saw the conception of true and good Catholicism; the twentieth century will be the century of gestation, and climaxing with parturition at a fixed end in the Book of the Heavens (September 29th, 1996 AD when completed).



Here is what a book in 1920 wrote about the bolded portion above referring to the events in Russia leading up to and resulting from World War 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire#War.2C_revolution.2C_collapse):

Quote
Now this letter is at least as old as 1896 (if it is a forgery); if it is genuine, it is as old as 1871. It must therefore be considered remarkable, whether as a forgery or as a genuine document. For it predicts what has happened in Russia, and it claims for its authors that they were preparing to bring about what has happened.

Anthony Sutton did the research (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCKLcEJ0zzg) on which group financed and help create the Russian Revolution.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: BADecker on October 13, 2016, 11:20:13 PM
A suspension of the Constitution is a return to no Government. Set up a strong local government with your neighbors and your community right now, to defend what is yours in the case of the U.S. Government committing suicide.


WATCH: Elections Commissioner Admits to Widespread Voter Fraud on Hidden Camera (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/205284-2016-10-13-watch-elections-commissioner-admits-to-widespread-voter-fraud-on-hidden.htm)



https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-1013095147-new-york-voting-commisssioner.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/205284-2016-10-13-watch-elections-commissioner-admits-to-widespread-voter-fraud-on-hidden.htm)


A Democratic Party election board representative from Manhattan was caught on camera confirming what a lot of people already suspect. It's easy to commit voter fraud, and it's made easier by New York's lax voter identification measures, which really don't exist.

Alan Schulkin, the Democrat Party representative serving on Manhattan's election board, admitted groups of interested voters get on buses and travel from polling station to polling station casting multiple ballots for their candidates or their issues. Schulkin said, "You know, I don't think it's too much to ask somebody to show some kind of an ID…Like I say, people don't realize, certain neighborhoods, in particular, they bus people around to vote."

Breaking from his political party's traditional stance against voter Identification of any kind, Schulkin said, "Yeah, they should ask for your ID. I think there is a lot of voter fraud." Going further, Shulkin explained the conundrum New York faces. "You can't ask for ID," he said. He said mayor Bill Di Blasio's attempt to issue voter ID's is fraught with even more controversy. "He gave out ID cards. De Blasio. That's in lieu of a driver's license, but you can use it for anything. But, they didn't vet people to see who they really are. Anybody can go in there and say I am Joe Smith, I want an ID card. It's absurd. There's a lot of fraud. Not just voter fraud, all kinds of fraud," Schulkin explained.

The election board representative's comments were secretly recorded on a hidden camera by Project Veritas, the same group responsible for catching Planned Parenthood executives on video engaging in business transactions peddling aborted baby body parts for money. Activist, founder, and proponent of the Free Press movement, James O'Keefe was immediately targeted by the mainstream media and branded by liberals as a phony journalist. But without his pioneering work, the world may never have known about Planned Parenthood's profiting from the sale of aborted body parts.

Those conversations, many of which were recorded while the participants were dining, touched off a firestorm of controversy in the U.S. with many Congressional leaders calling for an end to federal funding for Planned Parenthood's slaughter of the unborn.

Despite the expose' videos, and even with Republicans (traditionally anti-abortion) in charge of the federal budget, the 1.1 trillion dollar Omnibus spending package was passed with federal funding for the abortionists intact. Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan (R-WI), was instrumental in the Omnibus' passage, which many believe should have excluded federal funding of Planned Parenthood.


HIDDEN CAM: NYC Democratic Election Commissioner, "They Bus People Around to Vote"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jUDTcxIqqM0/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=x4eOkGzpimSUF4CvnRdv4oiESms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0)


Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/widespread-voter-fraud-election/. (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/widespread-voter-fraud-election/)


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Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 14, 2016, 09:16:05 PM
The desperation of the Clintons is being forced onto center stage by Wikileaks. Wonder what the escalation will be once they realize their sleaze strategy has backfired??

But let's face the facts. The elite are not going to allow him to go too far. It is going to be very interesting to see which choice they use to terminate Trump.

These latest groping and genital thrusting fabrications are going to backfire on the elite. The desperation of the mass media is all too obvious for anyone with a brain stem, which surprisingly doesn't include Tom Hanks.

Wikileaks should release Clinton emails bi-daily, so that the media has to invent a new fabrication every 2 days. That would do more to expose how ridiculous the media is now. But the switch to weekly releases was very strategic by Wikileaks to force the media to weekly reveal what a farce they are.

Weekly fabrications might even be too much for people without a functioning brain stem to not smell odorous.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 15, 2016, 05:52:55 AM
War


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 15, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: you may not be factoring in Chaos Theory
From:    "Shelby Moore"
Date:    Sat, October 15, 2016 5:20 am
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Sun Tzu:  Never underestimate you enemy.  The elites understand chaos
> theory quite well.  The reason they're using public anger over political
> corruption and globalism as a wedge.  Explains the nonstop "leaks" from
> CIA asset Assange and his Wikileaks psy op, the Russian leaks, 'anonymous'
> leaks, Panama papers.  None of it damages the core agenda.  Keeps tongues
> wagging, amygdalas firing at the expense of critical thinking.

They also understand you must kill the revolutionaries, there is no other
option:

https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA?t=216

So if Trump and the revolutionaries are winning, then war against the USA
may be the only option. Of course there may be other options such as
frustrating Trump in the Congress and judiciary. But if this political
movement is too powerful, war may be the only possibility.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 16, 2016, 03:50:43 AM

🇺🇸🇺🇸


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 16, 2016, 10:38:59 PM
The Red pill, Blue pill Election — NYC slumlord vs. Globalists (https://steemit.com/society/@anonymint/the-red-pill-blue-pill-election-nyc-slumlord-vs-globalists)


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 17, 2016, 01:40:37 PM
Expect the political establishment in the USA to do something very drastic (https://twitter.com/LogicalCampaign/status/787373770738536448) between now and Nov. 8.

I have a new perspective now, given Julian Assange's video:

https://twitter.com/LogicalCampaign/status/784171749164224512

And this:

https://twitter.com/LogicalCampaign/status/787373770738536448

The-powers-that-be appear to be trying to force the USA political establishment to escalate in Syria against Putin, in order to futilely attempt to defeat Trump.

And the elite want to lay the entire coming economic collapse and escalation of Middle East proxy war in Trump's lap, so he and the patriotic, conservative "obstructionists" can be blamed for the misdeeds of the banksters and establishment that set up all this failure over the past decades.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 17, 2016, 05:10:45 PM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/russia-advising-its-citizens-how-to-prepare-for-nuclear-war-warning-us-intends-to-attack/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/they-will-not-allow-trump-to-win-regardless-of-the-vote/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/empire-strikes-back-democrats-attack-wikileaks-obama-says-last-debate-should-be-cancelled/

Ah ha. It is coming into full view now why the guy without a USA birth certificate was groomed for the Presidency:

Meanwhile, Obama continues to support the Sunni in the civil war with the intent to attack Russian forces in Syria.

Sunni vs. Shiite internal conflict within Islam. Russian supported Assad is Shiite. Obama comes from a family of Sunni Muslims.

Do the Rothschild's plan this well and that far ahead  ???


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Thenoticer on October 17, 2016, 06:04:25 PM
Appears that something is happening with wikileaks and Julian.


Just wow, oh wow.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 17, 2016, 06:23:21 PM
Rigged CNN poll (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/17/politics/cnn-poll-of-polls-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/) lies Clinton widening leading by 8%.

This is to make Liberals feel as they were cheated by Russian hacking when Trump wins the popular vote. So they will swallow the blue pill (https://steemit.com/society/@anonymint/the-red-pill-blue-pill-election-nyc-slumlord-vs-globalists) and agree with some provocation with Russia.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: zenitzz on October 17, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
Trump began his run for the presidency, he just said out loud what the rest of us have been thinking, but the media was covering it up. Win or lose, the stage has been set.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: trollercoaster on October 17, 2016, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Martin Armstrong
Our models are pointing to 2032 as the meltdown in the political system. This will be 52 years from 1980, with prior targets being 1928, 1876, 1824, and 1772. The current target of 2016 equates to 1964 and JFK’s assassination, 1912 and the defeat of the Progressive Party (Socialism), and 1860 with the Civil War. Each have been watershed events politically. It appears 2016 will live up to its target. Civil Unrest will rise significantly by rigging this year’s election.

Yeah even if they rig it, and I think they will, they will have some serious chaos to deal with internally.

The endless scandals, and crimes committed by the Clintons will keep coming to light, I expect her approval to be lower than Hollandes 10% in France by the end of 2017

The #NeverTrump kiddies are in for a rude awakening

Hopefully there will be enough on Hellarys plate to distract her from provoking war with Russia and China.?.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 18, 2016, 07:56:21 AM
Here comes the escalation with Russia:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-winds-of-war/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: trollercoaster on October 20, 2016, 09:10:41 PM
ugh..
https://i.imgur.com/OO1yKXH.jpg


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: criptix on October 22, 2016, 12:16:36 AM
No mass donation fraud but mass voting fraud

#mass voting fraud luls


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 27, 2016, 04:33:39 AM
Now others are picking up on what I (and Armstrong) were writing:

https://steemit.com/money/@dollarvigilante/brexit-ii-is-donald-trump-a-false-flag

Trump is the way for the Joe Blows get to blow up the system and then the economic collapse (and war) gets laid on Trump's lap.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: mamichula on October 27, 2016, 05:38:41 AM
It's actually the other way around, it's to stop Hillary from winning. She's the one who's winning.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 27, 2016, 07:17:30 AM
It's actually the other way around, it's to stop Hillary from winning. She's the one who's winning.

Welcome to the new reality where what ever delusion you want to believe is actually reality for you.

This is exactly what Revelation in the Bible predicts. You'll believe in great magic of the Beast because it is the reality you choose to believe.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: trollercoaster on October 27, 2016, 07:31:39 AM
It's actually the other way around, it's to stop Hillary from winning. She's the one who's winning.

Welcome to the new reality where what ever delusion you want to believe is actually reality for you.

This is exactly what Revelation in the Bible predicts. You'll believe in great magic of the Beast because it is the reality you choose to believe.

It's quiet scary actually, how google and the internet behemoths are shaping our perception of reality with their filtering of search results, comments, and suggestions which confirm with our own biases and interests.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 27, 2016, 07:54:22 AM
It's actually the other way around, it's to stop Hillary from winning. She's the one who's winning.

Welcome to the new reality where what ever delusion you want to believe is actually reality for you.

This is exactly what Revelation in the Bible predicts. You'll believe in great magic of the Beast because it is the reality you choose to believe.

It's quiet scary actually, how google and the internet behemoths are shaping our perception of reality with their filtering of search results, comments, and suggestions which confirm with our own biases and interests.

Yeah. A lot of people are noticing this too.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2016, 07:37:24 AM
I think you are nuts.

Trump is not the answer for anything and the worst possible choice.
Hillary may be "bad" but Trump is bad and unqualified and unexperienced.
You need someone applying for the job who has relevant job skills.. Hillary has that.
You need someone who can play the game.
Bitch all you want but it is.. what it is.
Don't blame Hillary for the system in place before she entered politics.
Look in the mirror for that Americans.

What you should be concerned about is a loud mouth who has no real plans rallying the rednecks who want to troll the voting system.

Go read what Michael Moore said on this.. i agree with every damn word he has said.

And Guys get a god damn grip with the conspiracy shit it's embarrassing.. for you !

PS:
Shelby it was shady of you to post that shit in the first post and then say TPTB_Needs_War predicted it.
When that is YOU !
And your banned account here..

Your antics here are legendary.

People he blamed his ban on posting Ethereum FUD.
Which is kind of funny because i am the fucking KING of ETH FUD and i am not banned  :D
AKA: He is fucking delusional and you all have no idea how much.
He thinks Bitcoin was a master plan setup by US fed's or some shit like that.
He reminds me a lot of HippieTech LOL

And his account name here ?
He said he was not coming back and posted a topic saying his grand farewell to this forum and had created the account that made this topic to do it.. then never left LOL

All i can say is triple up on your med's bud.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 28, 2016, 12:47:34 PM
Trump wouldn't have gotten this far if he can't play the game. We are winning. Also, you forgot the part where you give us an argument, unless ad hominems are all you have

#HillBullies (http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party)


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2016, 05:32:39 PM
Trump wouldn't have gotten this far if he can't play the game. We are winning. Also, you forgot the part where you give us an argument, unless ad hominems are all you have

#HillBullies (http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party)

He is not by "campaigning"
Obama had a past history in politics and so did Hillary.
And i would credit her for already living in the god damn White House.

Your retort is a fail kid.. blow me.

The OP is a nutjob and his ranting is unrelated to the crazy poll he posted.

People who support Trump are retards .
And yeah i have a billion reasons why and for the hell of it i posted 1 earlier.
He has no plans.. i read interviews with him before where he was asked how he would get his claims done and all he could say was "Trust me, we will get it done"
What does that tell you morons ?

His campaign mirrors Hitlers campaign closely..


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 28, 2016, 08:35:06 PM
He has no plans.. i read interviews with him before where he was asked how he would get his claims done and all he could say was "Trust me, we will get it done"
What does that tell you morons ?

It means that we will get it done.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 28, 2016, 08:56:33 PM
Rothschilds family controls Wikileaks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637496.msg16695733#msg16695733) and is choosing the next Prez of the USA or is forcing Obama+Clinton to declare war on Russia:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-julian-assange-next-leak-will-lead-arrest-hillary-clinton/

Oct. 28 timing:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/did-something-happen-of-the-ecm-turning-point/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 28, 2016, 10:44:15 PM
He has no plans.. i read interviews with him before where he was asked how he would get his claims done and all he could say was "Trust me, we will get it done"
What does that tell you morons ?

It means that we will get it done.

That is not "playing the game"

That is nothing actually but pure raw bullshit and every person on earth knows it.
His campaign platform was non existent other than random racist commentary he spouts off.
Lets build a wall and make America great again ?

The guy is a repeat of Hitler and a fucking moron.
If he did have actual plans to achieve his campaign PROMISES he would have said them..
So why believe him ?
Because you people are really seriously fucking stupid.

Politician says oh i dunno.. "trust me"
And you dumb fuck dimwits say oh ...ok. LOL

WOW just fucking WOW


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on October 28, 2016, 11:43:59 PM
He has no plans.. i read interviews with him before where he was asked how he would get his claims done and all he could say was "Trust me, we will get it done"
What does that tell you morons ?

It means that we will get it done.

That is not "playing the game"

That is nothing actually but pure raw bullshit and every person on earth knows it.
His campaign platform was non existent other than random racist commentary he spouts off.
Lets build a wall and make America great again ?

The guy is a repeat of Hitler and a fucking moron.
If he did have actual plans to achieve his campaign PROMISES he would have said them..
So why believe him ?
Because you people are really seriously fucking stupid.

Politician says oh i dunno.. "trust me"
And you dumb fuck dimwits say oh ...ok. LOL

WOW just fucking WOW

What about the wall cannot be feasibly done?

We're going to build the wall and WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT?






























MEXICO (https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf)


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: virtualx on October 29, 2016, 01:56:52 AM

The guy is a repeat of Hitler and a fucking moron.

2002: Saddam is the new Hitler
2011: Qaddafi is new Hitler
2015: Putin is new Hitler
2016 (early): Erdohan is new Hitler
2016 (late): Duterte is new Hitler
2016: presidential candidates are new Hitlers

If without arguments, say the opponent is Hitler  ::)


What about the wall cannot be feasibly done?
Technically is feasible. It's blown up by media. Many nations have walls including Israel-Palestine, India-Pakistan, China-Mongolia.
Is it a waste of money and time? yes.



Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: popcorn1 on October 29, 2016, 02:26:38 AM
Trump wouldn't have gotten this far if he can't play the game. We are winning. Also, you forgot the part where you give us an argument, unless ad hominems are all you have

#HillBullies (http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party)

He is not by "campaigning"
Obama had a past history in politics and so did Hillary.
And i would credit her for already living in the god damn White House.

Your retort is a fail kid.. blow me.

The OP is a nutjob and his ranting is unrelated to the crazy poll he posted.

People who support Trump are retards .
And yeah i have a billion reasons why and for the hell of it i posted 1 earlier.
He has no plans.. i read interviews with him before where he was asked how he would get his claims done and all he could say was "Trust me, we will get it done"
What does that tell you morons ?

His campaign mirrors Hitlers campaign closely..
Your the MORON ;)..So vote Clinton over trump :D..

Donald Trump Lays Out Seven Point Plan To Drain The Swamp | The ...
dailycaller.com/2016/10/23/trumps-seven-point-plan-to-draintheswamp/
5 days ago - Trump's Seven Point Plan To #DrainTheSwamp [VIDEO] ... Trump pledged that in his first 100 days in office, he will restore ... Clean up Corruption in Washington Act: Enacts new ethics reforms to “Drain..

The point your missing if he does fail the people..Whats in almost every state in america..
TRUMP TOWERS HOTELS GOLF COURSES  ;)..

How do you smash up the Clinton foundation with a bat ::)..

This is the last chance for change Clintons have everyone in their pockets to police to judges everyone will be bought..

Trump fails do you think the army will obey his commands to attack it's own people :D :D..
Not ever will it happen because he is just a normal guy to us all..
And something normal is needed..

But i think trump will shock you all how good he will be..
He wants to be remembered as a man who changed the world for good..
Big massive bronze statue of MR TRUMP ..And his great gran children can walk past it knowing someone in there family was a great leader..

Instead of a president who's people pulled his arms and legs off and threw them in the bin ;)..
Because it will go really crazy if he lied to everyone..

WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT MAKE OUR FUTURE CHILDREN SLAVES NO MORE..

WE BRITISH VOTED FOR CHANGE IT'S YOUR TURN AMERICA..
What she does affects the world ;)..

SO FUCK YOU MORON :D..
I would never vote for a Clinton..THIEF..And a danger will she put soldiers in war to line her own pockets when it could of been avoided..

Mr Trump the people have faith in you as you can see with sell out crowds let them down by corruption then you will be no more your doomed..

So if your plan is to steal step down and let TREY GOWDY become president..
Plus i want to see contracts spread about..
Yes you can take some but take the piss were the american people are getting ripped off you will pay.I promise you this THE PEOPLE WILL GO CRAZY ON YOU ;)..

Make a change to be remembered for the good and you will live forever in peoples hearts..

And to you MORON we will see..if Hilary wins i bet no change and worse to come

Said all i can about the rich and the politicians getting paid by the rich to do them favours..

If you got 5 million your a poor person to these politicians and the worst is your 5 million will be worth a 100k in the near future..

How much that council house?..EERRRR 5 million  :o..But will your wages rise to compensate for the price rises on homes food and so on?..

Trumps the best out of the 2..Will he steal?..Not one person who as been in power as never not lined there own pockets in some way.Always made money by doing something they shouldn't of..

I had to pop up because some people cannot except Brexit just like they cannot except trump..
When more people voted for both..

We are still not out the EU peoples vote..will it be the people vote which is TRump..
Look at the crowds compared to Clintons says it all..

Goodbye all and good luck america..Said all i need to say..

I think i told my whole life story :D.. A Fair world is a happy world ;D..

TIME FOR CHANGE ..TIME TO STOP CORRUPTION..TIME TO MOVE TO A BRIGHT FUTURE..

You put our children in war to line your own pockets..Then have the cheek to lock up a drug dealer a thief a murder..When you are no different..




 


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2016, 02:50:49 AM
It's actually the other way around, it's to stop Hillary from winning. She's the one who's winning.

She is not winning, and that is why the media and the wall street criminals are trying so hard to discredit Trump. Her unfavorability ratings are well above the 50% mark. Only certain voter blocs, such as the radical feminists, ghetto residents, illegal immigrants, criminals, and LGBTs are solidly behind her. She is trailing Trump among whites by 10 to 20 percent points.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: popcorn1 on October 29, 2016, 03:05:45 AM
ghetto residents, illegal immigrants, criminals, and LGBTs are solidly behind her..NO THEY ARE NOT..
Some of everything are with her..BUT some of well more people than her are with TRUMP ;)..
HOLLYWOOD IS..Are you in HOLLYWOOD :D..Make believe land good liars ACTORS..

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George Bush senior admits he is voting for Hillary Clinton, in an ... Presidential bromance: Bush and Clinton

George W. Bush Calls Bill Clinton His 'Brother From Another Mother ...
Video for bush saying clintons like family▶ 1:13
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Former President George W. Bush may not be keen on all social ... I like him.” ... The Bush and Clinton .

All from the same CLOTH


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 29, 2016, 05:09:59 AM

Sending messages by voting for wolf-in-sheepskin-centrist-marshmellow Gary Johnson (diluting the vote against Clinton!) and citing ancient photos as objective rationality are for non-objective pussies (Trump is an ego maniac is both playing all sides and being played by Rothschilds).

Click my Rothschilds link and start to grasp that the situation is much more complex than your simpleton good vs. evil conceptualization.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 29, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
Rothschilds family controls Wikileaks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637496.msg16695733#msg16695733) and is choosing the next Prez of the USA or is forcing Obama+Clinton to declare war on Russia:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-julian-assange-next-leak-will-lead-arrest-hillary-clinton/

Oct. 28 timing:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/did-something-happen-of-the-ecm-turning-point/

Rothschilds is forcing Obama+Clinton into a corner. Will they be forced to declare war on Russia to remain in control to prevent themselves from going to jail?

The RELIABLE sources from behind the curtain (1) say the Wikileaks has made the FBI look like fools, besides I reported previously that those working on the case unanimously believed she should be indicted. (2) the latest “new” emails go all the way to Obama and it appears that Hillary didn’t like reading long emails on her Blackberry. She was first sending them to Huma would then print them out for Hillary. Huma did not delete them so now they have the whole batch. This is the latest running around behind the curtain for they surfaced from another department when they were looking into allegation of Huma’s husband texting underage girls.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 29, 2016, 09:57:42 AM
Just to correct factual errors.

USA is starting a war with Russia to declare Marshall law you claimed.

I didn't claim that as a prediction. I posted a poll and Martin Armstrong's speculative theory; and I developed the theory further with research into that Rothschilds appears to be in control of Wikileaks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16719168#msg16719168) and appears to be using the leaks to force one of several possible outcomes and goals (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16695728#msg16695728).

...


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 29, 2016, 11:14:12 AM
Ned Kelly wouldn't have taken much notice of these silly laws.Maybe the Aboriginal Australians should be given their land back if its not being proberly used.

I remember we were discussing Australian culture in the Martin Armstrong thread years ago, and I forgot the attributes we attached. I think it was something akin to Australians view themselves as rebels and they favor the underdog.

How is that Australians are putting up with this subjugation of their freedoms? Is the Australian rebelliousness only in words and not capable a collective rage? Australians are a bit fatalistic right? Whereas, Americans are more "can do" head strong right?

I think the some Americans are willing to fight to the death for their culture and way of life. Perhaps that is why Rothschilds may be promoting Trump to the Presidency (via the alleged control of Wikileaks), so as to unleash the conservatives against the Liberals in all out civil war mixed with a potential war with Russia, so as to divide-and-conquer.

You can't kill the conservatives easily (there is a gun under every blade of grass, and you can take each one from a cold dead hand). So let them burn themselves out fighting several enemies.

trollercoaster, maybe you should migrate to the USA and join the battle! Yet I don't think Australians are the same as Americans, even we have some shared values. I am also more pragmatic like you. I don't see any point of participating in that battle that we will eventually lose. Surely I am more valuable creating technology.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: DimidoffVany on October 29, 2016, 10:14:23 PM
Why martial law. Trump will never win and not just because the Americans figured out who trump but because the world does not want the President of America.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 30, 2016, 06:07:54 AM
Rothschilds family controls Wikileaks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637496.msg16695733#msg16695733) and is choosing the next Prez of the USA or is forcing Obama+Clinton to declare war on Russia:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-julian-assange-next-leak-will-lead-arrest-hillary-clinton/

Oct. 28 timing:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/did-something-happen-of-the-ecm-turning-point/

Rothschilds is forcing Obama+Clinton into a corner. Will they be forced to declare war on Russia to remain in control to prevent themselves from going to jail?

The RELIABLE sources from behind the curtain (1) say the Wikileaks has made the FBI look like fools, besides I reported previously that those working on the case unanimously believed she should be indicted. (2) the latest “new” emails go all the way to Obama and it appears that Hillary didn’t like reading long emails on her Blackberry. She was first sending them to Huma would then print them out for Hillary. Huma did not delete them so now they have the whole batch. This is the latest running around behind the curtain for they surfaced from another department when they were looking into allegation of Huma’s husband texting underage girls.





---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Rothschilds caused the Oct. 28 ECM cycle date event!
From:    "Shelby Moore"
Date:    Sun, October 30, 2016 2:02 am
To:      armstrongeconomics@gmail.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Greetings Martin,

I was waiting for you to write that the FBI reopened the Clinton case on
your ECM cycle turn date of Oct. 28 (which previously you only noted w.r.t. to the
Bundy acquittals,
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/did-something-happen-of-the-ecm-turning-point/).

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/did-comey-come-out-precisely-on-target-of-the-ecm/


I had immediately noticed that and written about it publicly before you
did. But I had also noticed that Wikileaks was driving this with their
plan to announce on Tuesday, Nov 1, information that could irrefutably
incriminate Clinton and possibly Obama:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-julian-assange-next-leak-will-lead-arrest-hillary-clinton/


And I was pleased to see that you became aware that Wikileaks is forcing
the hand of the FBI:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/the-fbi-reopens-hillarys-emails-too-hot-to-handle/

Quote from: Armstrong
The RELIABLE sources from behind the curtain (1) say the Wikileaks has
made the FBI look like fools, besides I reported previously that those
working on the case unanimously believed she should be indicted. (2) the
latest “new” emails go all the way to Obama...


But consistent with our past debates about whether the globalists had
their messy hands in the Ukraine and Middle East nation-building, you have
apparently not been aware that Rothschilds family clan are apparently the
funders for Wikileaks and they are the ones who have arranged his safe
harbor:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637496.msg16695733#msg16695733

Click the above link and review all the sources! Damn it. Otherwise you
are just being obstinate and refusing to learn what has been exquisitely
documented.


Consistent with the speculative theory you raised on your blog about
Clinton + Obama + USA incumbent political establishment might be trying to
foment war with Russia to blame an election failure or rigging scenario
and justify Marshall law or to provide justification for snuffing out any
Trump post-election protest, the involvement of Rothschild is creating
this pressure on Clinton and Obama raises the question of what is the
strategy of the global elite?

One possibility is as I wrote here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16695728#msg16695728

Quote
Now others are picking up on what I (and Armstrong) were writing:

https://steemit.com/money/@dollarvigilante/brexit-ii-is-donald-trump-a-false-flag

Trump is the way for the Joe Blows get to blow up the system and then the
economic collapse (and war) gets laid on Trump's lap.

Another possibility is that the global elite want to force war in the
Middle East, dump all the problems on Trump, and more over what I wrote:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg16719991#msg16719991

Quote
I think the some Americans are willing to fight to the death for their
culture and way of life. Perhaps that is why Rothschilds may be promoting
Trump to the Presidency (via the alleged control of Wikileaks), so as to
unleash the conservatives against the Liberals in all out civil war mixed
with a potential war with Russia, so as to divide-and-conquer.

You can't kill the conservatives easily (there is a gun under every blade
of grass, and you can take each one from a cold dead hand). So let them
burn themselves out fighting several enemies.

This also fits with Armstrong's theme of the USA breaking up into regions
of conservatives and liberals self-segregation.

Martin, I would like for you to also contemplate that Bitcoin wasn't
likely created by some imaginary Satoshi in his garage. More likely its
development was funded by the global elite for the purposes of breaking
down resistance by nation-state currency systems and turf battles
resistance by banks, while also enabling digital tracking of every
transaction on a public blockchain. Knowing full well that profitable
proof-of-work does not remain decentralized (China's mining oligarchy
controls 65+% of the Bitcoin hashrate, thus controls the protocol).

Also Martin it makes me suspicious of you that you do not admit that a
global elite is a natural order within your models. It is as if you want
to deny the inviolable power-law distribution of wealth.


Shelby Moore III
https://ph.linkedin.com/in/shelby-moore-iii-b31488b0


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: groll on October 30, 2016, 07:21:16 AM
I do not know but I think it is not true.  Maybe it was just a rumor so that people will not vote for Trump because Trump is such a phenomenon.  We should not believe in it because the source is not reliable.  Election is almost near so every issue, lies, and misleading news and articles are everywhere and that is why at this time people should be wise.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: ZlaiaZaia on October 30, 2016, 06:54:08 PM
Even if it is a rumor. Trump himself said that for him, Putin is better than Obama. How then can vote for him? He humiliated America.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 31, 2016, 01:18:27 AM
Hillary To Be Indicted - Paul Ryan Could Become President - Here's How (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/206122-2016-10-30-hillary-to-be-indicted-paul-ryan-could-become-president-heres.htm)

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/001-1030174449-paul-ryan-2016.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/206122-2016-10-30-hillary-to-be-indicted-paul-ryan-could-become-president-heres.htm)

I have written three times that Paul Ryan will be President. The globalists are split but Plan B has been initiated.

Paul Ryan has been in the hip pocket of the globalists all along. He supports a border-less America and is a fervent supporter of the Free Trade Agreements. He is a wannabe member of the criminal elite. He is, and has always been the Plan B for the Global Elite.

Paul Ryan filed paperwork to run for President in January of 2016

Paul Ryan released the Trump locker-room tapes in act of Benedict Arnold type of betrayal.

With 10 days left to the general election, she will not be indicted before the election. Even if her popular support goes south, she will still win because of the tampering with the electoral college by the Soros and the Clinton Foundation. Soros has his voting machines in 16 states, some of them are key battleground states. Hillary will win even if she only gets 20% of the vote and that is where this is headed. Ever die-hard Democrats can no longer stay of the good ship Witchcraft.

Hillary will never board Air Force One, maybe Broomstick One, but not Air Force One. She will be elected but indicted before the inauguration.

Kaine, the Democratic VP candidate and Hillary will be knocked out of contention when Hillary is indicted.

AND WHO IS NEXT IN THE LINE OF SUCCESSION? IT IS THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, PAUL "RAT" RYAN. THAT'S WHO. I HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO, BUT I HAVE BEEN SAYING SINCE APRIL THAT PAUL RYAN WOULD BECOME PRESIDENT.

What Do the Globalists Gain by Following this Course of Action?

If Paul Ryan ascends to the Presidency, it will be business as usual for the criminal elite. The TPP will pass and they will get their war with Russia. Further, America will be on the path of destruction courtesy of this elite wannabe, Paul Ryan.

Read more at http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/10/28/hillary-indicted-paul-ryan-to-be-president-heres-how/.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on October 31, 2016, 01:19:28 AM
Even if it is a rumor. Trump himself said that for him, Putin is better than Obama. How then can vote for him? He humiliated America.

Conservative Americans such as myself are embarrassed to have Obama as President. Obama is a humiliation for us.

It is not the color of his skin, but for example Obamacare and all the covert war mongering in the Middle East. He is a liar and is in the back pocket of the evil globalists. He was also complicit with some of Clinton's crimes. Also the NSA abrogations of our individual privacy has been expanded and continued under his presidency.

Also it is probably the case that he was not born in the USA, and thus is not eligible to be President. Just as Clinton is soon-to-be a convicted felon and thus not eligible.

We Americans are quite embarrassed to see our country taken over by the mafia. And the rest of the world licks the balls of and whor(e)ships this evil all because you all have been mind controlled to support any symbolic gesture of "equality and social justice" which is a big fat lie dick being rammed up your arses, but you are too mind programmed to discern reality.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Xester on October 31, 2016, 08:30:18 AM
I do not want to be negative and I just do not want to believe on all the issues I see on the internet.  All the issues can be fabricated because US election is near and Trump is more desirable than his opponent Clinton.  All the issues that they can throw away to Trump will be made in order for the people to shift their votes in favor of Clinton.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on November 02, 2016, 05:50:55 PM
Rothschilds family controls Wikileaks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637496.msg16695733#msg16695733) and is choosing the next Prez of the USA or is forcing Obama+Clinton to declare war on Russia:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-julian-assange-next-leak-will-lead-arrest-hillary-clinton/

Oct. 28 timing:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/did-something-happen-of-the-ecm-turning-point/

https://www.google.com/amp/www.inquisitr.com/3668257/steve-pieczenik-hilary-clinton-coup-clinton-takeover-former-deputy-assistant-secretary-of-state-julian-assange/amp/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: virtualx on November 02, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
We Americans are quite embarrassed to see our country taken over by the mafia. And the rest of the world licks the balls of and whor(e)ships this evil all because you all have been mind controlled to support any symbolic gesture of "equality and social justice" which is a big fat lie dick being rammed up your arses, but you are too mind programmed to discern reality.
We Americans have to deal with whoever is in power. The rest of the world just does business as usual, they have their own laws and can do whatever they want. Just see the threads on president Duterte. They will protect their self-interest. 
 


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: MairaObergh on November 02, 2016, 10:27:37 PM
Seems like an extreme way to go, considering how much more effective using the media would be. Especially with the lead that Hillary had when this whole Russia thing started. I would understand if Trump had a massive 30 or 40 point lead, but not when he's actually behind.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 02, 2016, 11:57:00 PM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Further proof that Rothschilds caused the Oct. 28 ECM cycle date event!
From:    "Shelby Moore"
Date:    Wed, November 2, 2016 7:56 pm
To:      armstrongeconomics@gmail.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Martin,

After receiving my email below, you wrote:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/deliberate-leaks-are-being-strategically-made-to-stop-clinton-inc/

Quote from: Armstrong
All our indications from behind the curtain are suggesting that there are
many within the “intelligence” sector and “law enforcement” sector who are
deeply troubled with the Clintons. They are trying to release documents
and info to stop the Clinton Inc. Machine. That’s all we can say on this
topic right now. Suffice it to say, there is a real internal battle going
on in Washington.

Why are you refusing to admit the Assange connection (and Rothschilds
involvement with Assange), when Steve Pieczenik has admitted that Assange
is instrumental in the current counter-coup which you mentioned above?

http://www.inquisitr.com/3668257/steve-pieczenik-hilary-clinton-coup-clinton-takeover-former-deputy-assistant-secretary-of-state-julian-assange/

Additionally, note very carefully the words of Steve Pieczenik, "the
emails that we gave him". Meaning that the hacked emails that Assange has
originated from those in the intelligence community, thus implying that
Assange is merely a coordinator for those inside the USA intelligence
community who want to anonymously release information.

Are you too embarrassed to admit you were wrong about the residual power
of the global elite Rothshilds family? Or are you beholden to Rothschilds
in some way?


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Rothschilds caused the Oct. 28 ECM cycle date event!
From:    "Shelby Moore"
Date:    Sun, October 30, 2016 2:02 am
To:      armstrongeconomics@gmail.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Greetings Martin,

I was waiting for you to write that the FBI reopened the Clinton case on
your ECM cycle turn date of Oct. 28 (which you only noted w.r.t. to the
Bundy acquittals,
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/future-forecasts/ecm/did-something-happen-of-the-ecm-turning-point/).

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/did-comey-come-out-precisely-on-target-of-the-ecm/


I had immediately noticed that and written about it publicly before you
did. But I had also noticed that Wikileaks was driving this with their
plan to announce on Tuesday, Nov 1, information that could irrefutably
incriminate Clinton and possibly Obama:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-julian-assange-next-leak-will-lead-arrest-hillary-clinton/


And I was pleased to see that you became aware that Wikileaks is forcing
the hand of the FBI:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/the-fbi-reopens-hillarys-emails-too-hot-to-handle/

Quote from: Armstrong
The RELIABLE sources from behind the curtain (1) say the Wikileaks has
made the FBI look like fools, besides I reported previously that those
working on the case unanimously believed she should be indicted. (2) the
latest “new” emails go all the way to Obama...


But consistent with our past debates about whether the globalists had
their messy hands in the Ukraine and Middle East nation-building, you have
apparently not been aware that Rothschilds family clan are apparently the
funders for Wikileaks and they are the ones who have arranged his safe
harbor:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637496.msg16695733#msg16695733

Click the above link and review all the sources! Damn it. Otherwise you
are just being obstinate and refusing to learn what has been exquisitely
documented.


Consistent with the speculative theory you raised on your blog about
Clinton + Obama + USA incumbent political establishment might be trying to
foment war with Russia to blame an election failure or rigging scenario
and justify Marshall law or to provide justification for snuffing out any
Trump post-election protest, the involvement of Rothschild is creating
this pressure on Clinton and Obama raises the question of what is the
strategy of the global elite?

One possibility is as I wrote here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639006.msg16695728#msg16695728

Quote
Now others are picking up on what I (and Armstrong) were writing:

https://steemit.com/money/@dollarvigilante/brexit-ii-is-donald-trump-a-false-flag

Trump is the way for the Joe Blows get to blow up the system and then the
economic collapse (and war) gets laid on Trump's lap.

Another possibility is that the global elite want to force war in the
Middle East, dump all the problems on Trump, and more over what I wrote:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg16719991#msg16719991

Quote
I think the some Americans are willing to fight to the death for their
culture and way of life. Perhaps that is why Rothschilds may be promoting
Trump to the Presidency (via the alleged control of Wikileaks), so as to
unleash the conservatives against the Liberals in all out civil war mixed
with a potential war with Russia, so as to divide-and-conquer.

You can't kill the conservatives easily (there is a gun under every blade
of grass, and you can take each one from a cold dead hand). So let them
burn themselves out fighting several enemies.

This also fits with Armstrong's theme of the USA breaking up into regions
of conservatives and liberals self-segregation.

Martin, I would like for you to also contemplate that Bitcoin wasn't
likely created by some imaginary Satoshi in his garage. More likely its
development was funded by the global elite for the purposes of breaking
down resistance by nation-state currency systems and turf battles
resistance by banks, while also enabling digital tracking of every
transaction on a public blockchain. Knowing full well that profitable
proof-of-work does not remain decentralized (China's mining oligarchy
controls 65+% of the Bitcoin hashrate, thus controls the protocol).

Also Martin it makes me suspicious of you that you do not admit that a
global elite is a natural order within your models. It is as if you want
to deny the inviolable power-law distribution of wealth.


Shelby Moore III
https://ph.linkedin.com/in/shelby-moore-iii-b31488b0


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 04, 2016, 03:22:52 AM
Per my prior comment post, Rothschilds is forcing the Establishment (politicians) in the USA to double-down on their corruption to avoid prison and sustain their power:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/never-ending-conflict-of-interest/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/war-economics-just-follow-the-money/

So fabricating a war with Russia is still on the table to prevent Trump from becoming Prez.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: mamichula on November 04, 2016, 03:55:17 AM
It's actually the other way around, it's to stop Hillary from winning. She's the one who's winning.

She is not winning, and that is why the media and the wall street criminals are trying so hard to discredit Trump. Her unfavorability ratings are well above the 50% mark. Only certain voter blocs, such as the radical feminists, ghetto residents, illegal immigrants, criminals, and LGBTs are solidly behind her. She is trailing Trump among whites by 10 to 20 percent points.

But even if what you say is correct, what's been projected, at least until recentely is that Trump is a bafoon, with Hillary kicking his ass in every poll by a very large amount. As far as the masses are concern, the vast majority think this is a cake walk for Hillary. So why start a war with Russia to benefit her? It won't and they don't need it.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 04, 2016, 04:37:22 AM
...Hillary kicking his ass in every poll by a very large amount...

Drudge Report showed the non-rigged polls were even. Wikileaks released emails showing the Democrats and MSM are colluding to manipulate polls.

You believe the liars because you want a world of social justice, equality, etc... Liberals are messed up in the head. They want to steal from each other and pretend they are good. Thus of course you believe the lie, because you are part of the lie.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: mamichula on November 04, 2016, 05:25:13 AM
...Hillary kicking his ass in every poll by a very large amount...

Drudge Report showed the non-rigged polls were even. Wikileaks released emails showing the Democrats and MSM are colluding to manipulate polls.

You believe the liars because you want a world of social justice, equality, etc... Liberals are messed up in the head. They want to steal from each other and pretend they are good. Thus of course you believe the lie, because you are part of the lie.

Re read my post. It doesn't matter what legitimate polls say, what the vast majority of people are getting is that Hillary is destroying Trump, so fabricating a war with Russia for her benefit makes no sense, since in the eyes of the people she's already winning and by a lot.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 04, 2016, 06:06:50 AM
...Hillary kicking his ass in every poll by a very large amount...

Drudge Report showed the non-rigged polls were even. Wikileaks released emails showing the Democrats and MSM are colluding to manipulate polls.

You believe the liars because you want a world of social justice, equality, etc... Liberals are messed up in the head. They want to steal from each other and pretend they are good. Thus of course you believe the lie, because you are part of the lie.

Re read my post. It doesn't matter what legitimate polls say, what the vast majority of people are getting is that Hillary is destroying Trump, so fabricating a war with Russia for her benefit makes no sense, since in the eyes of the people she's already winning and by a lot.

Perhaps you missed the original thesis of the OP, which is if Trumps wins (and they are unable to successfully rig the vote outcome) then they may need an excuse to void the election.

Another possible scenario is they do rig the vote for Hillary to win, then they need an excuse to come down hard (martial law) against Trump protesters in the streets. So a war with Russia blamed on Trump might be a pretext to martial law and violating civil rights.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: wiked1 on November 04, 2016, 10:46:53 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/something-big-underway-all-fronts

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/no-new-cold-war-its-far-worse



If there is to be a WW III, it will end the world. (https://ratical.org/radiation/NuclearExtinction/StevenStarr022815.html)




Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: DonValenteeno on November 04, 2016, 02:53:58 PM
No WW3. Peskov, an aide (or is it Press-Secretary?) to Putin, is married to a US citizen, with kids with citizenship as well. Lots of State Duma deputies and senior officials have property all over Europe and even across the Ocean, with relatives and kids dwelling, working or studying there.
And not so much needed to actually "deny" Trump, he's already doing well in that capacity  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPNQaWeiIE


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 04, 2016, 06:45:26 PM
No WW3. Peskov, an aide (or is it Press-Secretary?) to Putin, is married to a US citizen, with kids with citizenship as well. Lots of State Duma deputies and senior officials have property all over Europe and even across the Ocean, with relatives and kids dwelling, working or studying there.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/russian-government-officials-told-immediately-bring-back-children-studying-abroad


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 06, 2016, 06:54:09 AM
Interesting week ahead:

If you want to see corruption at the extreme, Hillary could legally pardon herself.

The Quest to Create World War III

Whatever the United States and United Nations can do to isolate Russia they seem to be doing without any regard for the consequences. Saudi Arabia retained its seat on the UN Human Rights Council while Russia was kicked off and Croatia replaced them. When it comes to human rights, one must ask, who made this judgement? All they seem to be doing is trying desperately to isolate Russia and to provoke war instead of peace.



Huma, Clinton, Saudi, ISIS, 9/11, Bin Laden connection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgheRzhCTkc

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/is-hillary-comprised-with-isis/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 07, 2016, 04:44:21 AM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/fbi-clears-hillary-for-mishandling-classified-emails-again/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/what-happens-if-nypd-indicts-hillary/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/reports-of-rigging-the-election-emerging-from-texas/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/the-quest-to-create-world-war-iii/


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 07, 2016, 07:51:00 AM
Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/putin-campaigns-for-trump/) and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Can you say "delusions of grandeur" ? i know you were avoiding say it earlier Shelby ;)

Well since I am by far the most voluminous poster of dense walls of verbiage on these forums for the past 3.5 years, we have evidence that I am well suited for an executive-level position:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ability-to-generate-e-mails-key-indicator-of-stamina-medical-study-says

And I did that while ill! Just wait until I am cured, y'all ain't seen nuttin' yet.

Well that is if you believe The New Yorker isn't full of delusional bullshit:

https://thescene.com/watch/thenewyorker/the-new-yorker-festival-sarah-silverman-and-andy-borowitz-tackle-trump?source=player_scene_logo

https://i.imgur.com/SkAlHzR.png (http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/)

Julian Assange: [Let’s talk about] Donald Trump. What does he represent in the American mind and in the European mind?  He represents American white trash, [which Hillary Clinton called] ‘deplorable and irredeemable’.  It means from an establishment or educated cosmopolitan, urbane perspective, these people are like the red necks, and you can never deal with them.  Because he so clearly -- through his words and actions and the type of people that turn up at his rallies -- represents people who are not the middle, not the upper middle educated class, there is a fear of seeming to be associated in any way with them, a social fear that lowers the class status of anyone who can be accused of somehow assisting Trump in any way, including any criticism of Hillary Clinton. If you look at how the middle class gains its economic and social power, that makes absolute sense.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 07, 2016, 09:49:50 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-russia-and-vladimir-putin-801885763965


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: Wosterlee on November 07, 2016, 10:14:30 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-russia-and-vladimir-putin-801885763965

Cringeworthy propaganda.

Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/putin-campaigns-for-trump/) and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Good summary. It pains me that so little people can't see it.

Trump and Putin are the other side of the same coin.

http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/ (http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/)

What a world we live in


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 07, 2016, 11:52:10 AM
...The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/putin-campaigns-for-trump/)...

Note in case anyone didn't realize, Martin Armstrong totally screwed up his fact checking again. The above linked Armstrong blog refers a The New Yorker satire (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-appears-with-trump-in-flurry-of-swing-state-rallies).

That doesn't change the point that Rothschilds is masterfully employing his control over the mass media both in traditional forms and Wikileaks, to accomplish this chaos.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 09, 2016, 06:16:50 AM
in other news, Armstrongs thesis on change in US elections spot on. Was first person I read saying an outsider will win.

I can confirm from reading his blog, that his computer predicted BREXIT and Republican victory months before the votes (and he claims his computer made these predictions many years before). I am really tired of this bullshit that says Armstrong's computer isn't legitimately able to predict the future. Armstrong says it is has never been wrong on a USA presidential election except for Gore (who actually won and the election was stolen with rigging in Florida which was later proven to be true).

As I predicted (https://steemit.com/society/@anonymint/the-red-pill-blue-pill-election-nyc-slumlord-vs-globalists) Trump has won due to turnout advantage (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/polls-at-1245-est-trump-is-cleaning-house/), and I can make this determination early (as of now) because (with his 244 confirmed electoral votes as of time of writing) he leads in PA and the remaining 3% of the votes to be counted in PA (http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/pennsylvania-president-clinton-trump) are all in counties where he is getting 2/3 of the vote (or in Bucks county where Clinton doesn't get a significant majority).

The Dems only got CO because they allowed 60,000 felons to vote (http://observer.com/2016/11/autopen-in-virginia-and-polls-kept-open-in-nevada/).


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 09, 2016, 07:39:36 AM
Rothschilds has pushed Clinton, Obama, and the political insiders Establishment  into a "fight or go to jail" corner, and they are preparing to fight as predicted:

CLINTON NOT READY TO CONCEDE

John Podesta, Mrs Clinton's camapaign manager has said: "She is not done yet."

He has told the Clinton election night party that the campaign is not ready to concede yet because too many states are "too close to call".

He told the crowd to go home - the campaign will not be saying anything more tonight.

“I know you’ve been here a long time," he said.

“We’re still counting votes, and every vote should count.

“Several states are still close to call, so we’re not going to have anything more to say tonight.

“Everyone should head home. You should get some sleep. We’ll have more to say tomorrow.

“We are so proud of you, and we are so proud of her. She has done amazing things and she’s not done yet.”

Boos and chants of "lock her up" rang around Mr Trump's election night event after it was announced Mrs Clinton would not be conceding defeat.

An extraordinary development.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 09, 2016, 07:54:15 AM
Interesting, Trump says, "sorry to keep you waiting so long, this is complicated business". Then he explains he was talking to Hillary and then asks for us to give her appreciation. Hmm...

Sounds like a backdoor deal to not prosecute may have been reached if she would concede?

Rothschilds has pushed Clinton, Obama, and the political insiders Establishment  into a "fight or go to jail" corner, and they are preparing to fight as predicted:

Looks like the rothchilds are losing their grip, not in material wealth but in their grip on how people think.  All this is great news for bitcoin with trump in.

Not necessarily. They get to dump the entire devolution of the global collapse into Trump's lap and give a reason for Liberals to blame Conservative, divide-and-conquer the great nation on the way to a world government to replace the broken nation-states model.

Meanwhile Trump supports their Five Eyes data privacy invasion.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: vokain on November 13, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-russia-and-vladimir-putin-801885763965

Cringeworthy propaganda.

Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/putin-campaigns-for-trump/) and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Good summary. It pains me that so little people can't see it.

Trump and Putin are the other side of the same coin.

http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/ (http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/)

What a world we live in

I think I would easily choose the stronger side, but in a world with nuclear proliferation it's hard to say.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: wiked1 on November 14, 2016, 10:47:01 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-russia-and-vladimir-putin-801885763965

Cringeworthy propaganda.

Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/putin-campaigns-for-trump/) and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Good summary. It pains me that so little people can't see it.

Trump and Putin are the other side of the same coin.



http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/ (http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/)

What a world we live in
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It’s all about setting people up to accept the Rockefeller/Kissinger- planned, BRICS-fronted, “reformed” UN-centered New World Order after the “bad guys” / scapegoats fall.
BRIC's = NWO is like the changing of tweedle dum for tweedle dee in the politik games(2 party system is the same as one party one,it is simply a good cop bad cop routine or two teams that take turns to win the same game or one spends the savings while the other refills the piggy bank with taxes etc etc)the former poor hard working producers will now become the wealthy consumers etc etc but what of the old guard order?What part will they play?NWO represents a seismic shift in wealth class distribution so maybe us yanks and euros will be the peasants making the shitty crap in factories this time medicated on the koolade and telespeak.It looks bleak indeed and the frogs are almost boiled.


Title: Re: TPTB fabricating war with Russia in order to declare martial law to deny Trump?
Post by: iamnotback on November 30, 2016, 03:46:24 PM
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/erdogan-admits-he-is-engaging-in-war-against-syria/