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Title: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: flaab on April 01, 2013, 02:47:44 PM
Please say "yes" if you are still buying and "no" if you are not :-)
(Lets see how many people of this forum are still buying)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: uk1 on April 01, 2013, 02:48:58 PM
no


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: deltanine on April 01, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
Yes.  Putting a hundo in every paycheck regardless of price.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: mccorvic on April 01, 2013, 02:50:16 PM
Yes.


I am and will continue to buy my usual amount a week.  Friday I bought 1.25 (i know, not much) on Friday and lookie, I'm up by a bunch already.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: zenith92 on April 01, 2013, 02:50:43 PM
Bought my first one today (tested it out first with smaller amounts), just decided to do it after days of contemplating. It was around 97 at the time and I expect it to reach 110 today, so why not.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: deathcode on April 01, 2013, 02:51:11 PM
Let's put it this way... I have fiat ready in mtgox to pull the trigger in the next dip :) Whenever that might be!
I dont want to be unprepared when the next dip happens and not have fiat available..
but I'm locked and loaded!


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Vandroiy on April 01, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?

Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: oakpacific on April 01, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
Yes, go long on leverage at the dip bottom, and but with the fiats earned.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BitcoinTate on April 01, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
Let's put it this way... I have fiat ready in mtgox to pull the trigger in the next dip :) Whenever that might be!
I dont want to be unprepared when the next dip happens and not have fiat available..
but I'm locked and loaded!


I'm dumping a few grand into the next dip as well. Course I will be kicking my own butt if the price hits $150 this week.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: jwzguy on April 01, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Nah...I'm waiting until we get down below $2 $5 $10 $14 $20 $32 $47 $56 $74 again, like these wise "investment experts" keep promising will happen.
/allinalready


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Bitcopia on April 01, 2013, 02:54:15 PM
YES


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Piper67 on April 01, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
Yes. If I spend a BTC, I tend to buy two.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Rygon on April 01, 2013, 02:57:46 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?

Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.

Um... because the BTC is still undervalued relative to the USD and will just continue reaching new highs until it reaches that true value?


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: humanitee on April 01, 2013, 02:58:27 PM
No, I finished going all in at $22.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BTC Books on April 01, 2013, 02:59:31 PM
Yes. If I spend a BTC, I tend to buy two.

Yes.

When I want something I can buy with bitcoin, I buy twice the bitcoin I need, spend half on whatever it is, and stash the other half.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Tirapon on April 01, 2013, 03:05:24 PM
No, I finished going all in at $22.

Nice


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: agath on April 01, 2013, 03:07:31 PM
YES!


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BrightAnarchist on April 01, 2013, 03:09:32 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?

Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.

Agreed.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Dargo on April 01, 2013, 03:15:16 PM
No, just holding coins earned from mining (cost basis around $5). Definitely wouldn't buy at this price, but we could go much higher.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: DoomDumas on April 01, 2013, 04:40:13 PM
YES


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: matt608 on April 01, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
No I'm already all in, but if I had more money to put in I would buy more BTC even at this price as well as some LTC.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BitcoinTate on April 01, 2013, 04:50:05 PM
No I'm already all in, but if I had more money to put in I would buy more BTC even at this price as well as some LTC.

I'm thinking I need to go get at least a few LTC.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Crazy on April 01, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
No, because the only money coming in is based on the assumption they'll sell for fiat at a higher price. This isn't being driven by fundamental value for many weeks now, and it will collapse sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: adamstgBit on April 01, 2013, 05:01:51 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?

Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.

Agreed.
lol nub talk...

Everyone knows bitcoin prices are totally relevant, people will continue to buy and sell BTC at wtv price....

If you speculate that new  developments in the economy isn't effecting price, your doing it wrong!  :P

bitcoins usefulness grows, the technology improves, new opportunities are presented; But time is short, and every dollar must be accounted for, Buy BUY BUY!

 :)

Edit: oh and, No i'm not buying right now ( i sold at ~20 DOH! -_-), but I'll need a few more... soon...


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BitcoinTate on April 01, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?

Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.

Agreed.
lol nub talk...

Everyone knows bitcoin prices are totally relevant, people will continue to buy and sell BTC at wtv price....

If you speculate that new  developments in the economy isn't effecting price, your doing it wrong!  :P

bitcoins usefulness grows, the technology improves, new opportunities are presented; But time is short, and every dollar must be accounted for, Buy BUY BUY!

 :)
Agreed. +1


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: phelix on April 01, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?
Fundamentals are way different today.

Quote
Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.
Hordes of speculators.

Also we are bubbling up slower this time, probably because more people are involved. Could also be MtGox lag :)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BitcoinTate on April 01, 2013, 05:06:34 PM
No.

I've been in here speculating since 2011, why would I buy at the by far highest price ever?
Fundamentals are way different today.

Quote
Why people do it, I can only guess. I doubt it's because Silk Road suddenly had a demand surge. Probably, the rally is being caused by comparably inefficient speculators. Certainly not my kind of game to play.
Hordes of speculators.

Also we are bubbling up slower this time, probably because more people are involved. Could also be MtGox lag :)
I blame it on the Gox lag as well :)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: pera on April 01, 2013, 05:09:21 PM
No I'm already all in, but if I had more money to put in I would buy more BTC even at this price as well as some LTC.

I'm thinking I need to go get at least a few LTC.

Litecoin, the next speculators frontier ;)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: URSAY on April 01, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
Yes...

1 BTC = 100 USD

Financial freedom = Priceless

 8)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: rpietila on April 01, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
When bitcoin went past $10, I got interested and bought. My plan was to sell some at $50 and ride the rest.

When it went past $50, I decided to go all-in instead. I decided that I will buy as many as possible before it is $100.

When it got past $100, I spent my last EUR 10,000 in the exchange, buying more.

Now I have a problem. I still have a lot of value in other than Bitcoin. But the price is kind of high.

Probably I will slow down buying, perhaps to 10,000 per week or so.

But as it goes past $200, I will probably just change my mind again.

Insatiable desire to buy bitcoins...


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: deathcode on April 01, 2013, 05:43:06 PM
The question should be: Would you buy at this prices if you're a long term investor or a short term investor?

Long term: YESSSS
Short term: Wait for a dip, it's coming any time this week, then buy and make 20%


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Fiery Winds on April 01, 2013, 05:52:02 PM
My 1 BTC doesn't get entered into my account until later this evening, so I'll have the rest of the day to determine what I want to do.  I bought in at $81, and am considering selling a percentage of my BTC above 100, anticipating it dipping below 100 this week, when I can buy back in with more capital.  If it keeps going up, I'll have still made a profit, and have some eggs left to keep climbing.  Then I'll be kicking myself for not buying now, but such is the speculative game.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BitcoinTate on April 01, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
My 1 BTC doesn't get entered into my account until later this evening, so I'll have the rest of the day to determine what I want to do.  I bought in at $81, and am considering selling a percentage of my BTC above 100, anticipating it dipping below 100 this week, when I can buy back in with more capital.  If it keeps going up, I'll have still made a profit, and have some eggs left to keep climbing.  Then I'll be kicking myself for not buying now, but such is the speculative game.
Hold, hold, hold!


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: mp420 on April 01, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
No, unless I need it to spend it on something.

So far there hasn't been much that I want that would be cheaper or easier to pay for with BTC.



Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: adamstgBit on April 01, 2013, 05:59:54 PM
No, unless I need it to spend it on something.

So far there hasn't been much that I want that would be cheaper or easier to pay for with BTC.


bitspend.net (https://bitspend.net/)  :)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: thoughtfan on April 01, 2013, 06:08:54 PM
Thanks for this thread.

Short answer: No because I'm all in and need time to recover my pound position from earnings before buying any more.

However I will admit to cheating a little when buying on behalf of friends and family by sneaking a little of my own money in too against my self-imposed rules!

I'm enjoying reading if nothing else because of the polarity.  There is incredulity that Bitcoin could be realistically valued at this price on the one hand and complete confidence that it will march increasingly rapidly forward on the other.

As I was just trying to explain to my niece (who is astounded that the face value of her 10btc Cascasius silver coin just hit $1,000) the price does increase the publicity which increases the price.  That she got.  And if that is the primary reason people are buying - i.e. because everybody else is making money and they want a piece of teh action - then we have a situation akin to Tulip Mania and we'll have loads of people losing their fragile confidence as soon as the price drops a bit and panic selling.

However if because of the increase in publicity and the network effect a significant enough number of those jumping on board are doing so because they see its potential and want whether now or in the future to use it as store of value, as a means of sending money internationally, as a means of buying stuff on-line without the mess of credit cards, as a means of getting their money out of their old banks or currency about which they are losing confident and they accept this may be a short-term peak but are buying nevertheless and are prepared to hold and wait then 'the big dip' if ever it comes won't be that big and won't last that long.

Interestingly also then it matters a great deal to those playing the greater fool game if it is about to plummet whereas to those of us who are thinking long-term fundamental value it matters less :)  How cool is that?

The size of the drop of 'the big dip' and its duration before 'recovering' (if it happens) will simply be down to the balance of the volume of Bitcoin controlled by the 'greater fool brigade' v. the rest of us.  My guess is the longer-term thinkers will win.

Somebody above was talking about his 'primed' fiat on MtGox ready to buy into the dip.  I am grateful to those who do this because they'll have a role to play in catching the dagger and preventing it go as low as it otherwise would.  On the other hand on a personal note I for the first month or so kept a range of orders from a small amount at a dollar below market (when that was a bigger percentage than today!) down to a substantial order at below $1.  I called it my 'crash plan' which was both 'for the benefit of Bitcoin in slowing down the potential crash' but also in the hope I could get more Bitcoin cheaper.  However I soon gave up on that when I concluded the odds of a significant crash are in my opinion too low to be holding that money in fiat so instead I just bought BTC at market price with it!

Just my take in case it is of help to others considering how to play it...


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: notme on April 01, 2013, 06:09:59 PM
Yes.

I buy the same $ amount each paycheck.

Also, this forum has a poll feature when you create a thread FYI.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: symbot on April 01, 2013, 06:11:56 PM
YES.

I had a stink bid in that was about 20% below the market value.  But when I saw the price approaching $100 today I bought about $380 worth of bitcoins because I think $100 will be a powerful psychological support level now...

That is not based on anything though.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: SgtSpike on April 01, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Kind of.... I bought a mining machine that will mint Bitcoins at this price.  :D


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: samson on April 01, 2013, 06:19:42 PM
Let's put it this way... I have fiat ready in mtgox to pull the trigger in the next dip :) Whenever that might be!
I dont want to be unprepared when the next dip happens and not have fiat available..
but I'm locked and loaded!


I'm dumping a few grand into the next dip as well. Course I will be kicking my own butt if the price hits $150 this week.

LOL, especially if it only dips down to $120


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: phelix on April 01, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
The question should be: Would you buy at this prices if you're a long term investor or a short term investor?

Long term: YESSSS
Short term: Wait for a dip, it's coming any time this week, then buy and make 20%


gox verification queue is said to be 8000...


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: stash on April 01, 2013, 06:25:06 PM
Let's put it this way... I have fiat ready in mtgox to pull the trigger in the next dip :) Whenever that might be!
I dont want to be unprepared when the next dip happens and not have fiat available..
but I'm locked and loaded!


Same here, load USD and be ready


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Luno on April 01, 2013, 06:29:35 PM
Let's put it this way... I have fiat ready in mtgox to pull the trigger in the next dip :) Whenever that might be!
I dont want to be unprepared when the next dip happens and not have fiat available..
but I'm locked and loaded!


Same here, load USD and be ready

Just be warned, last time Bitcoin crashed and burned and was hacked. People were preoccupied with cashing their Dollars out.

This time sneakiness prevails a lot of people will leave their cash at the exchange so a big dump might be bought up or the big dump might be a big double dump!


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: ninjarobot on April 01, 2013, 07:56:53 PM
No. Instead I'm buying ASICMINER shares and mining/buying altcoins (mainly LTC, as profitability is awesome right now! http://dustcoin.com/mining)


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: evolve on April 01, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
nope.

Mostly sold out with a token amount still in the game.




....you should have made this a poll.  :-\


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Meizirkki on April 01, 2013, 09:48:33 PM
yup.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: GIANNAT on April 01, 2013, 09:49:29 PM
Yes, I do now more then ever


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: Gordonium on April 01, 2013, 09:51:35 PM
Bitcoin is still probably the most undervalued asset in the history of finance. I am going to buy as much Bitcoins I can as fast as I can.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: phlogistonq on April 01, 2013, 09:53:42 PM
Yes, bought another 2 today.
We just beat the psychol. barrier of $100. Barring extremely bad news, the coming 1 or 2 weeks surely will only display a steep rise so this is an extremely good time to buy. Waiting for the next dip IMO is not worth it. Very likely, the next dip will be in the next weekend or the weekend after that and will only dip down part of the gain made in the meantime. In other words, even if you happen to guess the bottom of the dip perfectly, it will still be more expensive than today.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: The-Real-Link on April 01, 2013, 10:35:48 PM
Yes.  Might flip a couple to cover bills and stuff but definately feel like picking up more.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: BitcoinTate on April 01, 2013, 10:44:32 PM
Yes, bought another 2 today.
We just beat the psychol. barrier of $100. Barring extremely bad news, the coming 1 or 2 weeks surely will only display a steep rise so this is an extremely good time to buy. Waiting for the next dip IMO is not worth it. Very likely, the next dip will be in the next weekend or the weekend after that and will only dip down part of the gain made in the meantime. In other words, even if you happen to guess the bottom of the dip perfectly, it will still be more expensive than today.

Good point, problem is I am still waiting for my Dwolla -> gox deposit. :(


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: bitcon on April 02, 2013, 12:43:13 AM
Please say "yes" if you are still buying and "no" if you are not :-)
(Lets see how many people of this forum are still buying)

ppl on silkroad will be buying at any price.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: mobodick on April 02, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
Yo...


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: cbeast on April 02, 2013, 01:15:16 AM
Yes. I've been dollar cost averaging for the last two years.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: wa4hsh on April 02, 2013, 02:30:16 AM
Yes.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: rpietila on April 02, 2013, 05:13:53 AM
Yes, bought another 2 today.
We just beat the psychol. barrier of $100. Barring extremely bad news, the coming 1 or 2 weeks surely will only display a steep rise so this is an extremely good time to buy. Waiting for the next dip IMO is not worth it. Very likely, the next dip will be in the next weekend or the weekend after that and will only dip down part of the gain made in the meantime. In other words, even if you happen to guess the bottom of the dip perfectly, it will still be more expensive than today.

+1.

That bitcoin is expensive, can only be justified by looking at the price per 100,000,000 satoshi. It was named "1 bitcoin" for convenience a long time ago. As more people adapt bitcoin, it will become convenient to change the decimal place.

By far a more reasonable metric is to price in milliBitcoins: the price just went up from $0.01 to $0.10. It is still a microcap, there is great risk, you can lose everything that you put in, the possibility of a bubble cannot be ruled out, .. But also: to gain actual mainstream credibility, the minimum target is $1/mBTC which is $1000 per BTC.

In anticipation, I will be slowly buying more.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: dakiller on April 02, 2013, 05:37:38 AM
I bought everything I got 2 years ago and have only been playing with that since


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: dopamine on April 02, 2013, 05:44:38 AM
Kind of.... I bought a mining machine that will mint Bitcoins at this price.  :D

+1 hard to let go of some bitcoin when it just keeps going up


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: counter on April 02, 2013, 06:47:09 AM
I'm really thinking about it the more I read the more I like what I'm seeing, not the price though haha.


Title: Re: Seriously...are you buying at these prices?
Post by: phelix on April 02, 2013, 08:22:05 AM
The question should be: Would you buy at this prices if you're a long term investor or a short term investor?

Long term: YESSSS
Short term: Wait for a dip, it's coming any time this week, then buy and make 20%


gox verification queue is said to be 8000...

I have heard this could easily be people verifying to cash out larger USD amounts of coin acquired at much lower prices.
nah, they all have accounts already. At least 95%.