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Title: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
I was wondering if it is common to see zero confirmations for a transaction after over two hours. I did not include any transaction reward, but I have never had any issues with that before. Quite a few blocks have been found and the transaction wasn't confirmed in any of them  ???. Should I be worried? Here is the wallet address if it helps:

15s17qYWvj9vTJrjKnywGPiduM7NvbhNx7

Transaction ID:
2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4

If anyone could put my mind at ease, that would be great. 2.44 btcs is a lot these days...

Cheers!

[Edit]
5 hours and blockchain has no record of the transaction: http://blockchain.info/search/2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: Zomdifros on April 01, 2013, 10:36:26 PM
I count 150 transaction confirmations, so I wouldn't worry. Anyway, not including a transaction fee always has the risk of waiting some time before your transaction get's through.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 10:38:05 PM
Just curious, where do you see 150 confirmations? My wallet says 0/6. Thanks!


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: Stephen Gornick on April 01, 2013, 10:50:09 PM
Just curious, where do you see 150 confirmations? My wallet says 0/6. Thanks!

You didn't post a transaction ID.    Without that, all that can be suggested is that there was a transaction in which 2.44 BTC has been received to that address and then that amount was spent to 1FyySthyrzTbqqqjQL6QczwncHweMzX5NR (for 2.4395 BTC).  Both of those have confirmed.

 - https://blockchain.info/address/15s17qYWvj9vTJrjKnywGPiduM7NvbhNx7

If your client isn't showing that as confirmed, then your client probably hasn't reached "sync" yet. 

Now if you have some other transaction for this address then there's varying reasons why the network doesn't know about them but that's probably not what you are describing.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: TraderTimm on April 01, 2013, 11:01:57 PM
Sorry buddy, all those satoshi dice transactions have priority - move over, bub!

:)


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 11:12:31 PM
I don't think the transaction I am referring to is listed there. I had an incoming and outgoing transaction of the same amount (2.44) in that wallet yesterday, but this is a third and separate one. Here is all the info my wallet tells me about this specific transaction:

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 4/1/2013 14:22
From: unknown
To: 15s17qYWvj9vTJrjKnywGPiduM7NvbhNx7 (own address)
Credit: 2.439 BTC
Net amount: +2.439 BTC
Transaction ID: 2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4

It looks as though blockchain doesn't see that transaction ID at all.... Thanks for your help so far!


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: moni3z on April 01, 2013, 11:19:33 PM
Did your bitcoin-qt client 'sync' as suggested above, it can't confirm transactions it doesn't know exists yet.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: mpfrank on April 01, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
You could try regenerating the raw transaction order from input data using a tool like this

https://www.strongcoin.com/blog/the_easiest_way_to_create_secure_offline_bitcoin_transactions (https://www.strongcoin.com/blog/the_easiest_way_to_create_secure_offline_bitcoin_transactions)

and then resending it using "sendrawtransaction" command from a different bitcoin-qt client installation.  Could help if the transaction didn't end up getting propagated out into the network from your original client for some reason.



Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 11:24:14 PM
If, by sync, you mean downloaded all the previous blocks, then yes. Here is a screen shot to show you. http://imgur.com/iokGRz7


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
@mpfrank I do not control the wallet the bitcoins were sent from. I assumed that since the transaction showed up in my wallet that it had to be in the btc network and it would only be a matter of time before it was confirmed....I'll have to have a closer look at your suggestion though. I'm not sure if I fully understand.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: seleme on April 01, 2013, 11:33:13 PM
Same here, but it's more than 2 hours, some 8-9 here

24 different addresses


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: LouReed on April 01, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
I've been waiting over an hour for a transaction to confirm too. I transferred coins to BTCe to trade for some LTC's. By the time they get confirmation, there won't be enough to get what I wanted at the rate
LTC's are rising! >:(


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 11:37:39 PM
If this is an April fools joke...not funny Satoshi Nakamoto


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: chrsjrcj on April 01, 2013, 11:43:05 PM
I've had transactions take over 5 hours to confirm, so I wouldn't be too worried.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: Zomdifros on April 01, 2013, 11:43:09 PM
Just curious, where do you see 150 confirmations? My wallet says 0/6. Thanks!

I was referring to this transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/8471775e273da1ccec9411c21fa9ebcf9cc326d87ec7efab689f8d9a0a1807e0) although I now understand you probably weren't.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 01, 2013, 11:49:59 PM
Is it usual for the transaction hash not to show up in the blockchain block explorer until it has been confirmed? Here: http://blockchain.info/search/2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 02, 2013, 01:08:56 AM
Bump...5 hours and blockchain has no record of the transaction: http://blockchain.info/search/2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: goxed on April 02, 2013, 01:10:46 AM
Bump...5 hours and blockchain has no record of the transaction: http://blockchain.info/search/2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4
do you have a old backup of your wallet? you can try to replace the new with old and retry.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: TiagoTiago on April 02, 2013, 01:11:55 AM
Bump...5 hours and blockchain has no record of the transaction: http://blockchain.info/search/2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4
do you have a old backup of your wallet? you can try to replace the new with old and retry.
Make a backup of your newer wallet just in case; and make sure there is nothing missing when you load the old wallet.


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: Stephen Gornick on April 02, 2013, 01:15:49 AM
I don't think the transaction I am referring to is listed there. I had an incoming and outgoing transaction of the same amount (2.44) in that wallet yesterday, but this is a third and separate one. Here is all the info my wallet tells me about this specific transaction:

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 4/1/2013 14:22
From: unknown
To: 15s17qYWvj9vTJrjKnywGPiduM7NvbhNx7 (own address)
Credit: 2.439 BTC
Net amount: +2.439 BTC
Transaction ID: 2176854c0ed2e2a8e6c2f4aeb429e4548452ba59088cc63ff36634cdeae062a4

It looks as though blockchain doesn't see that transaction ID at all.... Thanks for your help so far!

OK, so this is an incoming transaction to you?

If so, the the party that sent it needs to re-broadcast it as your client knows about it but the rest of the network does not.    

To clear this, simply close your client and re-launch.  The memory pool will not have this transaction in it.

(The only exception there is if someone was cheating you, that transaction still existing in your memory pool might be evidence and shutting down your client would cause any trace of it to disappear.)


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: natobombs on April 02, 2013, 01:25:34 AM
Ok. Thank you! I'll contact the person sending the coins. I restarted my client before and the transaction was still there...Thanks again!


Title: Re: Transaction with ZERO confirmations after over 2 HOURS
Post by: TiagoTiago on April 02, 2013, 01:35:26 AM
How about that -rescan commandline option? Could that be of help for him?