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Post by: minerjones on October 13, 2016, 03:15:25 PM
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Post by: Poloherb on October 13, 2016, 09:29:49 PM
Are you serious?  Replica coin with certificate


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Post by: TommyBitcoin on October 13, 2016, 09:55:39 PM
Am I missing something here?  By replica, are you talking knock-off?  Or is this really made by top world coins?  Seems cheap to me, seeing that their coins are .999 fine silver...and yours is graded as well!

Can you please explain?  I may be interested in the coin.  Thanks!


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Post by: MRBONG411 on October 13, 2016, 10:08:13 PM
Is 0.05 to low to offer?



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Post by: Zepher on October 13, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
Am I missing something here?  By replica, are you talking knock-off?  Or is this really made by top world coins?  Seems cheap to me, seeing that their coins are .999 fine silver...and yours is graded as well!

Can you please explain?  I may be interested in the coin.  Thanks!


This coin is indeed a replica/knock-off of the original 2014 Sol Noctis Bitcent.

This replica is dated 2016, has no hologram, is not made of silver, and has no load amount of 0.01 BTC on it. It is also not produced by Top World Coins.

It was sent to ANACS to see if they would grade it - which they obviously have ;D I do not take that as them authenticating a "fake" though. It is clearly a replica, and ANACS was grading the coin "as seen".


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Post by: Lutpin on October 13, 2016, 10:27:40 PM
Are you serious?  Replica coin with certificate
Yes, ANACS is serous, as always.
How many of those did you get graded, MJ?
I got one of them aswell, this one, how many more of them out there?

The Certificates of those are fucking hilarious aswell, btw :D
http://archive.is/G3fPV
That's mine, Type: GUATEMALA


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Post by: owlcatz on October 13, 2016, 11:07:28 PM
The anacs population report tab for it only lists 2 total - yours ^^^ and this one for sale.
 


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Post by: owlcatz on October 14, 2016, 05:46:05 PM
So, I'm just curious - Is this the BTC address on the coin(s)?

https://blockchain.info/address/18AcXX2k7W6tk4bngownadDYTXHbJHikYL


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Post by: Lutpin on October 14, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
So, I'm just curious - Is this the BTC address on the coin(s)?
https://blockchain.info/address/18AcXX2k7W6tk4bngownadDYTXHbJHikYL
Yes and no. It seems that's the address of the original Sol Noctis they used for copying.
Like a genuine Sol Noctis, the replicas don't feature full addresses, the last 2 characters are missing.
Instead of 18AcXX2k 7W6tk4bn gownadDY TXHbJHik (which I'd asume is the one on the original),
those replicas have a slightly altered address on them 18AcXX2k 7W6tk4bn gownadDY TXHbJHIK


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Post by: owlcatz on October 14, 2016, 05:52:58 PM
So, I'm just curious - Is this the BTC address on the coin(s)?
https://blockchain.info/address/18AcXX2k7W6tk4bngownadDYTXHbJHikYL
Yes and no. It seems that's the address of the original Sol Noctis they used for copying.
Like a genuine Sol Noctis, the replicas don't feature full addresses, the last 2 characters are missing.
Instead of 18AcXX2k 7W6tk4bn gownadDY TXHbJHik (which I'd asume is the one on the original),
those replicas have a slightly altered address on them 18AcXX2k 7W6tk4bn gownadDY TXHbJHIK

Ahh.. Very interesting, makes sense now, thank you! :D

Edit - Always loved the "GUATEMALA" thing, too... Like they just picked a random country name out of a basket or something...  ???


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Post by: dumbchump on October 14, 2016, 08:03:58 PM
I find it very interesting that when graded the original is labeled "1oz .999 silver" and this one is labeled "silver"

Wonder if any testing is done to confirm it is actually .999 silver when it is labeled as such?


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Post by: Poloherb on October 14, 2016, 08:09:39 PM
I am 100% sure. This is a fake coin

Missing logo mint Polish, no private key (no sticker) on coin. Even coin design is not full as original.

You can compare the original on my website http://cryptophysical.com/index.php/coins/the-binary-eagle

http://cryptophysical.com/images/gallery/coins/the_binary_eagle/THE_BINARY_EAGLE_07.JPG


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Post by: Lutpin on October 14, 2016, 08:09:58 PM
I find it very interesting that when graded the original is labeled "1oz .999 silver" and this one is labeled "silver"
Wonder if any testing is done to confirm it is actually .999 silver when it is labeled as such?
I'd highly doubt it. Most probably they're going with what they see, graded "as seen".
Original Sol Noctis carry an "Ag 999 1oz" engraving on their face, hence that's what ANACS writes on the slab.
I got no idea how this knock off could get labled as silver (Those certainly aren't silver coins, neither do they say anywhere on the coin "Silver", "Ag" or sth similar),
maybe someone at ANACS googled what Sol Noctis are made of or they just took a guess?



I am 100% sure. This is a fake coins
Maybe you missed the original discussion back then, we already know these 2016 coins are knock-offs/replicas.
The OP also states this fact.