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i know that hardware and cloud mining both are not good .
i mean hardware mining is not much profitable and cloudmining are like ponzi scam .
but i want take risk with my btc . i want make a profit like system which can give me some btc weekly or monthly without hard until tge site not ran away .
now , i want ask to the only mining experienced person they should suggest me which cloudmining site is best . because i want take risk with my money or btc .

caution:- do not post here like  " leave this idea" , " it is scam ", it is not profitable " etc only best suggestion by the cloud mining users . and for other i will request to keep distance from this post .

Ok if you are realy want start cloud mining service, you can try hashnest.com, why i choose hashnest because, it has clear support hardware miners from bitmain. As we know bitmain is providers of hardware miners that can be trusted.

ia it necessary to use to install app for this mining site ??
 i mean web version are not available???

Well... If you open the website using smartphone (usualy Android) of course yes, you must install the App, but if you open the website using computers or laptop. The website will be automatic to web version.

Lol, you know that cloud mining is a shit, that isn't profitable or it's ponzi hyip schem and you still want to invest on it to risk your money. But the money is yours, you do what you want with it...

I just think there are risks worthing more than cloud mining. Better to use all BTCs in a Dice game than on a cloud unprofitable mining site.  :P

Ditto.

OP I know you're not trying to hear that cloud mining is a scam and such, but just be careful because so many people have gotten burned trying to do what you're doing.  Try the one suggested above, but I wouldn't risk much. *psst...they're scams*

LOL! Really you wanted to investing cloud mining at your own risk? Well that means that you want to start to be scammed?

Mining is much greater than cloud mining and it doesn't mean that because they are both mining they are both legit.

Maybe you want to know why many people are hating cloud mining, because that is just simply created to scam people.

I'm sorry even though I read your caution. So I suggest that stop your desire to invest your bitcoins in cloud mining.

Well that is your bitcoins invest at your own risk.

If you are using chrome you can sethe request a desktop version and you will be viewing the web version of it so there will be no prompt to download the app. It is better if you can download it so you can easily monitor your account tho.

Cloudmining is dead. Don't bother with it. If you were having profits, would you share them with the other people? That's what cloudmining companies offer. I don't believe a thing about what they say.

Since you are already aware of the danger in your mission and possible loss of funds, i will ask you to check hashflare.io because they seem to have a high community here.

both type of mining are difficult and hard to get profit. but actual mining is still better as you'll be your own boss and you'll be having full control of your mining. and you'll know how much you are earning or not..
and cloud mining is more riskier since lots of scam happened it became even more tricky. but if you decided to do this anyway. while you are well aware of that. then you may try Genesis mining and hashflare. so far they don't have any accuse of scamming. (I didn't tried both of the nor I have any plan to do so. I am not affiliated with them.)

at the current time only those cloudmining trusted sites are available from long ago which are paying very less profit .
overall according to your explanation that what you want i will suggest you hashnest and Eobot only .

there are several cloud mining that really have a good reputable. my list is genesis, hashflare, eobot, oxbtc. i have some amount of GHS but i don't make any deposit again until now, maybe later i will make deposit on that site.

Before you invest your money in cloudmining should know the rule is to invest what you can afford to lose.

How about no? But since you don't want to hear that a comment like that, then go on. Do what you want to do. Just don't come back here saying that you shouldn't have invested your money. Cloud mining always had a bad reputation because of the scams going on. You can still invest in cloud mining sites but don't expect to find any cloud mining site that has been running for a while now and pays well at the same time.

Op should really accept  the reality regarding with this things  because  cloudmining are just total scams for me which  is not worth to invest on it. If op want  fast money without doing anything then its better to hold off your money that to  invest it  to non guaratneed profits of  this  cloudmining sites but if you do have huge amounts  to invest its better to go on hardware for me, much better.

Don't throw your money on their , ups sorry. cloudmining never profitable all the time soon or lately your money will gone without trail.

It s obvious you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about mining and cloudmining. It seems re also too lazy to read and want us to spoon-feed you. If you want to gamble your BTC, I suggest you actually try some gambling, there is a nice link in my signature. Good luck.

Totally agree with the last post,if you want to risk losing your Bitcoins why don't you just try gambling?it is more honest than cloud mining they don't promise you earnings that they can't afford to pay later,and you have much more chances to win in a shorter amount of time.
Another option you have is to start trading it is much safer than wasting your money on a ponzi,anyway it's your money and you decide how to spend them but I advise you to think about it again.

Agree with this  , its better  to play gambling than to invest  on those  cloudmining sites  because  they are  just  total scam and  such a waste  on your money. As you  mentioned  on playing gambling  they didnt   promise  such returns on your money though.

Op, I understand that you want to earn money, and you don't care about actual process of mining or anything, right?
In that case why don't you ditch your cloud mining idea and focus on something better?
Flavor of the month is ICO investing - try to learn more about new an upcoming ICO project and invest money in some promising project.
Alternatively you can try investing in casino's bankroll - at this point these 2 options are better than cloud mining, legit or not.

I think if you want join in cloudmining
you must ready lost your bitcoin, because is very dificult find cloud mining in real mining
majority only scheme ponzy system

His suggestions are  the  most  possible  good investment as of  now compared on investing  on a cloud mining scheme  which is trully a scam on the end.  ICO projects are good as  long you chose  the most possible  potential altcoin the for sure you would somehow  get decent profits after the ICO period  or  it would launch on exchangers.

OP clearly said he wanted to take the risk. there is not even better than what you suggest to play dice. because both will obviously end with a loss. This really does not make sense as want to waste money lol

I really laugh  at this  when someone  tries  to suggest  dice games  which  wont give you also an assurance to give you  profits. They are still the same  thing though  because  you are  just gambling  your  money to earn  money but  results wouldnt go just as  we expected.

well even its funny to read it but your logic is right both ways will just let your btc to burned out
its really hard to trust cloud mining by now might be much better to risk from ico at least you
will able to get something back if there's a good back up behind.

If you have more than 500 BTC then cloud mining is a good idea like hashnest and genesis mining and don't bother with eobot they will tell your country is sanctioned and delete your account with all funds completely.

That's what they did even though  when I was buying with paypal it was all OK but when tried to withdraw they deleted me :(

hashnet and genesis mining real mining or not
and how much profit in there, how long BEP in there

Why would it make any difference whether you have 500 BTC or 1 BTC invested in cloudmining ???

An average client cannot make money from Genesis Mining, regardless of the amount. There s slight chance what using Hashnest, under condition of constant reinvesting and selling hash at the right moment.

Hashflare seems the most acceptable option, take a look at this review,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579210.0

Still, make sure there s always a risk of an online service being discontinued for whatever reason. DIFFERENTIATE!

You are right because cloud mining is hardly giving any profits right now unless you have high capital.
I will advice you to make a gambling site or invest in such a site because with cloud mining it is really getting us so hard times ( some sites scamming users using the name of cloud mining )

The same can happen with investing into dice sites. Also, I have not yet found a concrete proof about investment into these sites being profitable. Dice sites are for gambling and if you do want for gamble, click the link in my sig, visit one of the best and gamble.

Investment into dice, not sure that s so good.

Theres no good  on investing  into something  like playing gambling games. Its better to invest  on  the  house  itself because you could somehow assure yourself  on the profits that would be  made in the  long run. CLoudmining are  such a waste of  time and  money  because they are all  just scams.

Maybe there's a cloud mining service that can be trusted but it can only bring you a little profit but if you really want to start mining and didn't want to get burned that service can be good enough for you but as you mentioned you wanted to take risk then you can try hashnest as they are commonly suggesting you . Good luck man hope that you can find your desired profit .

To my own understanding hashflare and hashocean are two very good cloud bitcoin mining site you can go for, they seem legit because they have been operating for long time and are still existing till today. But before you try this these two site I gave, I advise that you take a proper intelligent research on them before you poo your money in. I wish you a successful bitcoin cloud mining.

WTF are you talking about?
Hashocean is a collapsed ponzi.

Cloud mining is not safe where you can really get rid off your money and cloud mining is not really profitable yes it is really a ponzi shceme scam where the owner of website offering a free hardware mining, That's cool but it is not really a profitable things there no companies that they offer they hardmining if they can really earn from there own ways.

Legit because they are operating for a long time? Is that what you called legit? They scammed more than 700,000 users with a huge amount of btc and now they are legit? Almost users that support/invest that site is crying because of what it happened.

Wait What? cloud mining is not profitable at all it's your lucky when you got your money back guaranteed but some of cloud mining are really scammed and they run your bitcoin and you will not really make profit on there sysmtem if you are going to invite those people to register under you then it is much more better to earn money i think.

I think that means you think that cloudmining is not profitable and probably a scam, but it's ok to sell it to other people to collect referral commission?
Nice.

If you consist on investing in cloud mining, why you don't mine altcoins instead of Bitcoin, some altcoins may give you profit more than mining Bitcoin, there are two sites you can use, Genesis mining and minergate, I see many people using minergate with VPS, but honestly I haven't tried it.

Many complained about that, but I'm sure if they or any other scammer come back with the same offers and design many people will invest on their site again. HashOcean survived for several months and investors will try their services thinking it will last more 1 year or a bit less. Unfortunelly people still search and join this kind of site.

Wheee

"I know cloudmining is a scam but supposedly it is profitable so I want to take the risks"

Cloudmining isn't profitable. If you want to get rid of your bitcoin, you can give it to me.

How can you single handedly say that coud mining is a scam, to me i do not believe that because there are many sites out there that offer cloud mining service that are very legit. Just do the good work of searching them a nd you can be sure to find a very good one.Though if you have aternative you can go for them.

You can't compare cloud mining with real mining.

Hardware mining is profitable or not profitable depending on so many factors, you cant just say its not much profitable!
And cloud mining are not like ponzi scam, either they are ponzi scam or not. There is no "like ponzi"

I am not sure you will find new "cloud mining" site that will run more than few weeks after hashocean scammed almost everyone.

What mining expert has to do with sites you are looking for(obviously ponzi sites)

Because lots of people are reading this thread, also newbies in this forum and/or bitcoin community, and especially because of them, you can't forbid people to write warnings and warn them of possibly lost of money.

EDIT*
You are member(Full member) of this forum for almost a year now, and you are asking these kind of questions?

All these cloudmining websites are just big ponz's you should not even start one because its not trusted anymore and the most that did are legit at first sight but later on are nailing people hard.
They are turning most of the times into ponzi's..

OP, send me your money. At the end of the month I might give you some of it back if I'm in the mood. Otherwise I'll probably keep it. That's a far better offer than you'll get from any investment company and the offer stands. Call me.

I think cloud mining right now its not worth it but i heard that hashflare are paying i just read few days ago here in our forum. but i did not know if they are paying real the comments by others has no negative trust so i think they are still paying as of now.

Hashflare s paying without issues for over a year, I have been using them and have reached ROI so far. The best contract is definitely scrypt cause Litecoin mining difficulty does not change that fast compared to BTC. They do offer Ether and Dash contracts as well but I prefer scrypt. Let me know if you need more info.

I have many crypto related friends on Facebook, and I'm also a member of many groups. There I see million cloud mining commercials, some of my friends are posting that things every day.
You can try to find cloud mining site there, just one little thing who knows which one is good and which one is scam site. For me it's hard to make difference between that and cause of that I'm staying far away from it, I hope I helped you.

As you say, they are paying.
The fly in the ointment is that the sister company, Hashcoins, appears to indulge in fuckery like advertizing vaporware and refusing to return money for unfilled hardware orders, rather "compensating" customers with unordered and unwanted cloud mining contracts.
Why Potapenko does this is anyone's guess, but it hardly inspires confidence in either company.

And just to clarify the usage of the term "ROI" in the cloud mining world.
If you "100% ROI" in a year, it sounds great, but all it means that you have been given back your original lump sum payment in bits over the course of a year and now are back where you started.
If you paid originally in BTC then any price rise during that year is probably lost to you.

So, in cloud mining ROI means "return of investment".
In the real world, ROI means "return on investment".
 
Say you buy a stock or share for $100 and get back $10 dividend yearly then your ROI is 10%, but your original $100 is still there (subject to market fluctuations.)
In cloud mining, unless your supplier supports trading in hash power and thereby gives resale value to your contract, then your original $100 becomes zero immediately. It is not an investment, it is a cost.

Surely with it. I know the different for investing in shares and cloudmining. and it's just like for buying the power from there and not investing your money because you can lose all of your money at the time and you will get it back after doing a lot of time getting your money back, but there is no guarantee for you actually can get your full ROI.

It is difficult to identify legit cloud mining sites, because all new sites are ponzi scheme, but as far as know there are three sites still paying, hashflare, hashnest, and genesis mining. For me, I prefer to mine altcoins myself, if you want to know the mining difficulties and the best coins to mine use this site: http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

I do  know those  3 standing still  cloud mining sites that you mentioned  but still i wont  prefer  to join those cloud mining  schemes ever again   because   im done  with  the previous cloud  mining sites before which  it really waste of  all of  my  bitcoin and  have a hard time to   move on  or cope  up with it. Mining altcoin would  be a very good idea   though if  you have  enough  amount to invest  on  since  the difficulty  of mining isnt  hard as  bitcoin.

Cloudmining is a slow ponzi scheme, better switch to trading, with less risk and with greater profit, we will never know if these cloud mining still in operation the next days.

I've almost invested on hashocean before because i was hearing this one as a good cloud mining site. The good thing there is that before that certain site shuts down recently this year i was not able to put on my amount on it yet so i do feel lucky tho but let my experience served as a warning to you my friend.

I know you didn't want these answers but I am still going to say it

Cloud Miners are just paying back some of the money you pay them and keeping the rest , They really don't even need mining software to make a Cloud Mining Business because they are just paying you your money and keeping the rest so that they make profit without having to do anything

You said the truth, it's exactly what happens. They do nothing, just get our money, return a part of invested money to us, take all the rest and go away. Some investors take profit, another investors just lose money and the scam scheme owner always make profit going away with the stolen money.