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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Announcements (Altcoins) => Topic started by: Tinus on October 17, 2016, 02:41:41 PM



Title: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Tinus on October 17, 2016, 02:41:41 PM
F*** your censorship Gulden

Gulden has been banning me from slack and deleting my messages in their ANN.

I don't like this kind of censorship, especially because I was asking only 1 critical question:
Isn't the price increase of Gulden the worst for the functionality of the coin (spending)? Hyper deflation seems to me like the worst case scenario for
a coin based on spending.


Seems like a rather normal critical question, however they silence me every way possible. Why? Maybe cause they have no answer? Don't know, ban me for creating this thread here, IDC.

If there is one thing I truly hold dear, it is freedom of speech.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Geenstijl on October 17, 2016, 02:49:40 PM
All my messaged on price discussions have been moderated as ''scam accusations''. They are insanely strict, but its their choice and the investors seem to agree with their strategy.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Tinus on October 17, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
All my messaged on price discussions have been moderated as ''scam accusations''. They are insanely strict, but its their choice and the investors seem to agree with their strategy.

As long as people don't know any critical questions being asked, i'm sure they are complying with Gulden's strategy


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: cyrixcer on October 17, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
Gulden OP is nuts, OP deleted my every post, all of my posts were positive to the coin. Now I start hating it now.

Since this is a significant premine, OP is worrying about people know the truth. He keeps dumping during the pump


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: TrueAnon on October 17, 2016, 02:54:33 PM
LOL why is this such surprise to anyone?  It is obvious as another whale/bots PnD action on it since dead price SO LONG with no big deal reason for it to pump, so now sucker sheep will 'buy in' during pump now and it will just keep dumping very soon and ppl will baghold for a very long time again.  If you didnt buy up since last 6 months you are too late so don't bother.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Tinus on October 17, 2016, 02:55:55 PM
LOL why is this such surprise to anyone?  It is obvious as another whale/bots PnD action on it since dead price SO LONG with no big deal reason for it to pump, so now sucker sheep will 'buy in' during pump now and it will just keep dumping very soon and ppl will baghold for a very long time again.  If you didnt buy up since last 6 months you are too late so don't bother.

I agree, I thought it noble to show the people in their slack such huge price increases are really bad for the coin. It was not received very well... but it seems like there are more people being shushed by the dictatorial team of Gulden. Let it be known!


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Svener on October 17, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
awwww so the scammers are all sad that there ponzi schemes are not doing so well. The reason Gulden is doing well is because it's real!



Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Tinus on October 17, 2016, 03:12:50 PM
awwww so the scammers are all sad that there ponzi schemes are not doing so well. The reason Gulden is doing well is because it's real!

I say this to all you deny'ers , if you don't like it fuck off, we don't need you!

haha this says it all about the people buying Gulden right now. Enough said, this topic can be closed :)


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Svener on October 17, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
awwww so the scammers are all sad that there ponzi schemes are not doing so well. The reason Gulden is doing well is because it's real!

I say this to all you deny'ers , if you don't like it fuck off, we don't need you!

haha this says it all about the people buying Gulden right now. Enough said, this topic can be closed :)

Good Riddance to bad trash.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Reallist on October 17, 2016, 03:26:10 PM
I don't know why all the jealousy in this ANN, move along, if you don't like something you don't need to turn into a social justice warrior. The coin might get passed Doge and that is where it will end, it's not going to touch DASH, LTC or ETH. So stop panicing!!!


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: JasonXG on October 17, 2016, 11:06:45 PM
I think we should be free to make our own choice and say as we want. Otherwise they are hiding something because they won't let you speak your mind. It looks like it is probably not a good currency for people like us so I'm going to stat well clear.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: a_cat_named_joe on October 18, 2016, 12:12:33 AM
I too was censored for advising caution regarding a post from a supposed whale advertising that he was about to move in. Here is the banned post:

Quote
dump coming??

Some of my friends from Poloniex have shifted btc to bittrex, this pump is nothing. More to come.
Yes..I hope  ;D

Why would whales advertise an intention to move in?
Caution advised!

I would like to distance myself from any support I have previously given to Gulden.



Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: gaazje on October 19, 2016, 06:22:39 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..







Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Glen Hoddle on October 19, 2016, 06:31:18 AM
I too was censored for advising caution regarding a post from a supposed whale advertising that he was about to move in. Here is the banned post:

Quote
dump coming??

Some of my friends from Poloniex have shifted btc to bittrex, this pump is nothing. More to come.
Yes..I hope  ;D

Why would whales advertise an intention to move in?
Caution advised!

I would like to distance myself from any support I have previously given to Gulden.



Your post was deleted because it contained a FUD quote and was necessary for thread clean up. I'm sure it was nothing personal. Certainly not worth spitting your dummy out for. Get over it.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Glen Hoddle on October 19, 2016, 06:37:51 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..







Then your guess is wrong. Most of the coins are being held by many many long term holders who have been with Gulden for a very long time. The reason we held them for so long while the price was hanging around at 400 sats for a year was because we recognised that the team behind Gulden is honest and dedicated.

With regards to your comments about real world adoption, no extravagant claims are being made about real world adoption by the Gulden team. Adoption is increasing as the announcement about the Groningen taxis showed - but this will be a slow process. Getting the tech right is the first priority so non crypto people can seamlessly begin using the apps.

The next update coming soon will show the direction Gulden is headed. Hold on to your tin foil hats.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: vanarebane on October 19, 2016, 06:39:40 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..


Dev premined a lot, and slowly dump it, some coins do not deposited in one account because we can see distribution in bittrex.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: gaazje on October 19, 2016, 06:59:38 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..


Dev premined a lot, and slowly dump it, some coins do not deposited in one account because we can see distribution in bittrex.

And mined the rest them selves, and closed the mining pool?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577392.msg16601974#msg16601974 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577392.msg16601974#msg16601974)


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Glen Hoddle on October 19, 2016, 07:25:32 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..


Dev premined a lot, and slowly dump it, some coins do not deposited in one account because we can see distribution in bittrex.

This statement makes no sense. I appreciate that English may not be your mother tongue but before you brush up on your language skills I would urge you to research how crypto works thoroughly before making any more nonsensical comments.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Glen Hoddle on October 19, 2016, 07:26:06 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..


Dev premined a lot, and slowly dump it, some coins do not deposited in one account because we can see distribution in bittrex.

And mined the rest them selves, and closed the mining pool?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577392.msg16601974#msg16601974 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577392.msg16601974#msg16601974)

You on the other hand are a senior member and should know better.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: gaazje on October 19, 2016, 07:39:13 AM
I live in the netherlands, I don't see any the real life adoption around me.. only a few times in media

20 million marketcap for:

-60 mechants
-750 Slack Users
-Google Play store stats between 1000 and 5000 downloads..
-Only 3mil coins available for sale on Bittrex and Nocks stats 'Due to high demand, supply may be limited'
Where are all the other hundreds of millions of coins? Available Supply 322,541,503 NLG

My guess is they control over 90% of all coins, like a central bank they can decide to give it out or not,
and keep the price up..


Dev premined a lot, and slowly dump it, some coins do not deposited in one account because we can see distribution in bittrex.

And mined the rest them selves, and closed the mining pool?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577392.msg16601974#msg16601974 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577392.msg16601974#msg16601974)

You on the other hand are a senior member and should know better.

Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: MirkoIta on October 19, 2016, 07:45:05 AM
Dev premined a lot, and slowly dump it, some coins do not deposited in one account because we can see distribution in bittrex.

This is a totally fake statement and you will find it by yourself, just need to check out https://developer.gulden.com/premine/ and you will find all the info you need. If you're lazy you can check out the premine addresses here: 

https://blockchain.gulden.com/address/GYhkHEHFSwjVaq7Bt9Akm9EHDMamiWkPZb  (last TX on 28 june 2016)

https://blockchain.gulden.com/address/GLjU6est4NXFri3Rmx2SnA9PzFdYsm1Tcb  (last TX on 6 march 2015)



Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: MirkoIta on October 19, 2016, 07:46:31 AM


Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


Can you link where you read NLG developers ask people to invest money in Gulden?


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Brito on October 19, 2016, 07:54:35 AM
Never seen so much desperation to get people to dump their coins so these same people can get back in. Shame on you all!


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Glen Hoddle on October 19, 2016, 07:56:51 AM
Quote from: gaazje

Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


It's not my coin and I don't ask anyone to invest in it.

If anyone gives money to someone who says 'Shut up and give me your money' I would suggest they review their investment strategy.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Brito on October 19, 2016, 07:58:22 AM
Quote from: gaazje

Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


It's not my coin and I don't ask anyone to invest in it.

If anyone gives money to someone who says 'Shut up and give me your money' I would suggest they review their investment strategy.

M8 the clutching of straws by these shills that missed out is humorous. :)


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: gaazje on October 19, 2016, 08:02:20 AM


Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


Can you link where you read NLG developers ask people to invest money in Gulden?

Well here:

https://gulden.com/ (https://gulden.com/)
Quote:
"How Gulden increases your capital With every new user the value of Gulden goes up. For payments or as an investment, you determine the way you use Gulden."





Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Brito on October 19, 2016, 08:10:43 AM


Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


Can you link where you read NLG developers ask people to invest money in Gulden?

Well here:

https://gulden.com/ (https://gulden.com/)
Quote:
"How Gulden increases your capital With every new user the value of Gulden goes up. For payments or as an investment, you determine the way you use Gulden."



Users won't use it if the wallets are shite m8. They can still use their Gulden at all Gulden and bitcoin merchants and send Euros back to their bank accounts directly from the mobile wallets.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: gaazje on October 19, 2016, 08:24:09 AM


Since you ask people to invest their money in your coin but don't allow them to ask any questions about it and simply delete them, instead of honestly anwering them sounds to me like you have something to hide.. or shut up and give me your money..
And yes I still hodl some Nlg


Can you link where you read NLG developers ask people to invest money in Gulden?

Well here:

https://gulden.com/ (https://gulden.com/)
Quote:
"How Gulden increases your capital With every new user the value of Gulden goes up. For payments or as an investment, you determine the way you use Gulden."



Users won't use it if the wallets are shite m8. They can still use their Gulden at all Gulden and bitcoin merchants and send Euros back to their bank accounts directly from the mobile wallets.

Those few thousand users? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.wallet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.wallet)


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Snorek on October 19, 2016, 08:26:15 AM
I am not here to decide whether gulden is good alt or not. What bothers me is apparent censorship of official Gulden's Tread.
From what I read here, people were asking rather standard question, nothing explicitly FUD related -how question about price is FUD?
So deleting these posts instead of ignore/answer is the worst possible solution.
As we can see it leading to trust issues and spiral of uncertainty about intentions of the Gulden developers.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: TamiLee on October 19, 2016, 08:31:04 AM
I am not here to decide whether gulden is good alt or not. What bothers me is apparent censorship of official Gulden's Tread.
From what I read here, people were asking rather standard question, nothing explicitly FUD related -how question about price is FUD?
So deleting these posts instead of ignore/answer is the worst possible solution.
As we can see it leading to trust issues and spiral of uncertainty about intentions of the Gulden developers.

Coin has been going for over 2 years and now that they getting attention it's all of a sudden a problem? I saw the trash talk on the Ann, I would of also gone moderated.

READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't invest if you unsure  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: Glen Hoddle on October 19, 2016, 08:41:32 AM
I am not here to decide whether gulden is good alt or not. What bothers me is apparent censorship of official Gulden's Tread.
From what I read here, people were asking rather standard question, nothing explicitly FUD related -how question about price is FUD?
So deleting these posts instead of ignore/answer is the worst possible solution.
As we can see it leading to trust issues and spiral of uncertainty about intentions of the Gulden developers.

Your comment is a measured one and you have been around a long time so please don't take this the wrong way.

There are no trust issues with the Gulden team among long term users/members of the community. None at all. With respect, speaking of a 'spiral of uncertainty' means you don't understand the Gulden team or community.

The devs are in Slack every day to answer questions.

Again, with respect, If you think this forum is important to Gulden you don't understand the Gulden team or community.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Gulden is defining the future of crypto. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevant. It is a fact.


Title: Re: ANN Gulden Censorship
Post by: gaazje on October 19, 2016, 08:43:43 AM
I am not here to decide whether gulden is good alt or not. What bothers me is apparent censorship of official Gulden's Tread.
From what I read here, people were asking rather standard question, nothing explicitly FUD related -how question about price is FUD?
So deleting these posts instead of ignore/answer is the worst possible solution.
As we can see it leading to trust issues and spiral of uncertainty about intentions of the Gulden developers.

Exactly..