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Title: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: mjc on April 02, 2013, 09:57:59 PM
I think we are headed down a slippery slope with ByteCoin.  People are become confused and it will turn them off. 

For starters all the topics should be pushed to the alternate currency topis and not had in the newbie or other Bitcoin topics.  This is Bitcointalk.org, not Bytecointalk.org.  I would go so far as to suggest a Bytecointalk.org be created.  for now the alt currency is the place for that talk.

So why do I think its a slippery slope, the first time someone is tricked into buying a bytecoin for $100 only to find out they were scammed there will be an uproar.  Mind you they should have educated them self, but people coming to this for the first time will not know the difference and it will confuse them.  They may well turn away thinking it's too complex.

I'm not suggesting it not exist, or that Alt coins are bad.  I think we needed to separate them from Bitcoin so it doesn't pull Bitcoin down while it tries to stand up.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Mike Christ on April 02, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
Nobody's gonna mistake Bitcoin and Bytecoin.  Anyone who falls for that old gag is bound to part with their money any other way.

Btw, anyone wanna buy some gald?  It's this new shiny orangy-metal thing I found in my back yard, probably worth thousands.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: po1992one on April 02, 2013, 11:09:44 PM
Bytecoin:
-no difference vs Bitcoin
-no development manpower
Just stop talking about Bytecoin and the coin will be forgotten soon


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Byte-Gox on April 02, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Bytecoin:
-no difference vs Bitcoin
-no development manpower
Just stop talking about Bytecoin and the coin will be forgotten soon

Too late.. the pizza was delivered!


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 04, 2013, 04:01:38 AM
Bytecoin:
-no difference vs Bitcoin
-no development manpower
Just stop talking about Bytecoin and the coin will be forgotten soon

its a carbon copy of bitcoin so there is no development needed. Simply copy paste updates from the bitcoin devs. I think this is the big strength of bytecoin.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: hiima on April 04, 2013, 04:09:22 AM
Seems like people who are do not know much about tech will get confused.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 04, 2013, 04:19:12 AM
Yes they will. I wish the developer had named it the obvious bitcoin2 instead of bytecoin.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Operatr on April 04, 2013, 05:02:27 AM
Bytecoin is vaporware, pay it no mind, this is a critical time for cryptocurrency, we should use our resources to help Bitcoin and Litecoin.

If you're going to introduce a new currency, at least make it something unique. If Bitcoin is gold, and Litecoin is silver, would be best to start one that is more like Rhodium (most expensive metal on Earth) by having there be less total coins making them more rare and difficult to generate.

New currencies are a good thing, overall they all take away from the eroding status quo, but they have have a purpose and there be a real reason for a divergence of Bitcoin. You can't just copy and paste Bitcoin's success by running a paralleled network.

Assuming that is this is actually real, which I don't think it is. Don't post below me and help Bytecoin go away.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Gabi on April 04, 2013, 05:45:23 AM
Look, a new thread about that scam  ::)


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Mike Christ on April 04, 2013, 05:56:52 AM
Look, a new thread about that scam  ::)

Still beats Novacoin.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: twelph on April 04, 2013, 06:12:19 AM
Looking to buy bytecoins, have 1btc to spend on it. Gotta get out of this newbie section, will send first to a reputable Alt-Crypto Currency forum poster.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 04, 2013, 12:17:50 PM
Bytecoin is vaporware, pay it no mind, this is a critical time for cryptocurrency, we should use our resources to help Bitcoin and Litecoin.

If you're going to introduce a new currency, at least make it something unique. If Bitcoin is gold, and Litecoin is silver, would be best to start one that is more like Rhodium (most expensive metal on Earth) by having there be less total coins making them more rare and difficult to generate.

New currencies are a good thing, overall they all take away from the eroding status quo, but they have have a purpose and there be a real reason for a divergence of Bitcoin. You can't just copy and paste Bitcoin's success by running a paralleled network.

Assuming that is this is actually real, which I don't think it is. Don't post below me and help Bytecoin go away.

Really i feel the exact opposite, I think the fact that bytecoin is an exact copy of bitcoin is its big strength. I mean we know that bitcoin cant scale to the point necessary to facilitate even a fraction of all world trade so additional blockchains are an inevitability. And when deciding what sort of additional blockchains we should use why not just copy bitcoin, we know that bitcoin works and there is no need for a dedicated development team, we could simply leach off the bitcoin dev team.

dont get me wrong im all for great innovation in the field of cryptocurrency if anyone happens to have any great innovation laying around but the options we have out there now (ppc, trc, nvc) are not great innovations. If given the choice between a terracoin or a bitcoin2 ill take the bitcoin2.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Endgame on April 04, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
100% agree with OP. Bytecoin will confuse the hell out of newbies, and inevitably result in people getting scammed. It's not much better than mtgix in my view.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Aahzman on April 04, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
BytchCoin is shite. Forget it.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: VforVictory on April 04, 2013, 01:33:49 PM
How about we discuss Freicoin instead? XD


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Uest3 on April 04, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
Yes will confuse a lot of people, especially if they are not native english speakers. In general the more coins will appear, more confusion will be. Imagine, hundreds of new alt coins launched, maybe sponsored by some corporations or groups etc It's similar to domain names, first we had .com, now ICANN approved a lot of new TLDs for everyone, .ny, .bcn http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en, ... why not .bitcoin
The difference, .com domain name had time to establish on the market, but the bitcoin... not sure, the chinese could create their own bitcoin, the chinese bitcoin to use in China etc
They can creat a new alt coin stronger than bitcoin, if they have money and power, support from the media, why, because all people that lost the bitcoin boat want a new chance to get rich.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: nebulus on April 04, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
Business plan:
1) copycat something
2) give it a vaguely similar name
3) find a bunch of excited losers who can't tell a from b
4) profit



Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Akka on April 04, 2013, 02:51:11 PM
Business plan:
1) copycat something
2) give it a vaguely similar name
3) find a bunch of excited losers who can't tell a from b
4) profit

If come up with an Idea for a System where you can send Messages and even small Files to other people using this System. I think I call it I-Mail, or Liteletter, haven't decided yet.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: c1010010 on April 04, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
Yes.  Just ignore ByteCoin... it will go away.

And, as a side note, anybody that can't read well enough to distinguish between BitCoin and ByteCoin really should not be using a computer or playing with real money.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: mjc on April 04, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
Well hopefully the moderator can aggressively move it to Alt-Currency forum.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 04, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
Business plan:
1) copycat something
2) give it a vaguely similar name
3) find a bunch of excited losers who can't tell a from b
4) profit



You just described China's primary export. Wanna see my Appel iPlod?


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: rmarma01 on April 04, 2013, 04:05:59 PM
No, I don't think it will confuse anybody.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: yogi on April 04, 2013, 04:17:27 PM
The protagonist/s behind this are using a large number of sock-puppets to make it look popular. Some people will be fooled by this. It's a scam, plain and simple.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 04, 2013, 04:18:50 PM
The protagonist/s behind this are using a large number of sock-puppets to make it look popular. Some people will be fooled by this. It's a scam, plain and simple.

+1 I noticed this too, and we all have a very good idea of who that protagonist is.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: John (John K.) on April 04, 2013, 04:19:33 PM
Well hopefully the moderator can aggressively move it to Alt-Currency forum.

Well, please report them if you see those outside of the alt coins subforum.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: l0lface on April 04, 2013, 04:20:32 PM
it's just a learning experience if thye make that mistake


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 04, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
The protagonist/s behind this are using a large number of sock-puppets to make it look popular. Some people will be fooled by this. It's a scam, plain and simple.

yep i also noticed this but it is still a good idea regardless. im not a sock puppet and im going to keep pumping it =)


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 04, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
The protagonist/s behind this are using a large number of sock-puppets to make it look popular. Some people will be fooled by this. It's a scam, plain and simple.

+1 I noticed this too, and we all have a very good idea of who that protagonist is.

I dont know who it is. Who do you believe it is?


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Byte-Gox on April 04, 2013, 04:36:35 PM
Satoshi?  ;D


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 04, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
Satoshi?  ;D

hey its the puppeteer himself. C'mon give us a hint, who are you really?


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: monstro on April 04, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
I wouldn't worry about it - the market will decide over time what it has confidence in!


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: BobsBurgers on April 04, 2013, 05:45:04 PM
Ive never even herd of bytecoin lol


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Globi on April 04, 2013, 09:07:08 PM
Business plan:
1) copycat something
2) give it a vaguely similar name
3) find a bunch of excited losers who can't tell a from b
4) profit



You just described China's primary export. Wanna see my Appel iPlod?

hahahah i cant believe i actually saw a guy bring an iphone to be sim unlocked while i was waiting for mine and found out there at the shop that it was a chinese ebay cheap version..


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: DGrandioseD on April 04, 2013, 09:33:02 PM
I think we are headed down a slippery slope with ByteCoin.  People are become confused and it will turn them off. 

For starters all the topics should be pushed to the alternate currency topis and not had in the newbie or other Bitcoin topics.  This is [Suspicious link removed].  I would go so far as to suggest a Bytecointalk.org be created.  for now the alt currency is the place for that talk.

So why do I think its a slippery slope, the first time someone is tricked into buying a bytecoin for $100 only to find out they were scammed there will be an uproar.  Mind you they should have educated them self, but people coming to this for the first time will not know the difference and it will confuse them.  They may well turn away thinking it's too complex.

I'm not suggesting it not exist, or that Alt coins are bad.  I think we needed to separate them from Bitcoin so it doesn't pull Bitcoin down while it tries to stand up.

Hm, interesting


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Wekkel on April 04, 2013, 10:22:16 PM
A copy of Bitcoin was bound to happen anyway. Bitcoin must be able to cope with that so we might as well try it ourselves. In the end, it's not about becoming a BTC millionaire but about making hassle free 24/7 unrestricted payments. Couldn't care less whether I have to pay with LTC, BTC or Bytecoin in the future since it is all interchangeable.

The market will sort this out. We don't have a problem with 100+ PDF readers either.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 04, 2013, 10:39:53 PM
I wanted to skip this post, I really did, but there's just so much wrong with it I couldn't help myself. Forgive me if I seem like I'm "attacking" you, but the amount of ByteCoin sockpuppet shills is staggering.

A copy of Bitcoin was bound to happen anyway.

It already has, dozens of times.

Bitcoin must be able to cope with that so we might as well try it ourselves.
We should participate in a pump-and-dump scheme because it looks like our own pump-and-dump scheme?

In the end, it's not about becoming a BTC millionaire but about making hassle free 24/7 unrestricted payments.
This is true. Have you tried Ripple yet?

Couldn't care less whether I have to pay with LTC, BTC or Bytecoin in the future since it is all interchangeable.
Last time I checked, no, they weren't interchangeable, at least not with any amount of ease. Only BTC>LTC, LTC>BTC.

We don't have a problem with 100+ PDF readers either.
The value of the PDF doesn't change by what reader you use. This analogy is completely nonsensical.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Wekkel on April 05, 2013, 05:44:15 AM
I fail to see what you want to convey in your post. BTE is simply there, period. That's a free market and the market doesn't care whether we like it or not. Yes, there are other coins but this seems to be an exact copy of BTC giving extra attention to the fact that Bitcoin is not protected as a concept.

I wanted to point out that BTC will have to manage with exact copies out there and in my personal opinion the birth of BTE provides an unique view on what happens with exact clones. Again, I would like to stress it's about the protocol, not so much the value or type of coin. Only is there's sufficient adaptation, the coin of choice has a future.

I'm excited about this; are you?


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: nebulus on April 05, 2013, 05:51:01 AM
Nope


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: jmmichael93 on April 05, 2013, 08:00:55 AM
so I just decided to google bytecoin and see about their website or any other info besides this forum, this is what came up:  http://bytecoin.net/

Yeah...



Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: rme on April 05, 2013, 08:05:18 AM
Dont care about


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: biternana on April 05, 2013, 12:08:10 PM
We should give bytecoin a chance, bitcoin is opensource, so it has to deal wit 1:1 copies. But I have to agree, that the name of bytecoin could be confusing for beginners.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: BR0KK on April 05, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
no point giving scamcoins a chance :)


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 05, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
no point giving scamcoins a chance :)

yes they were designed as scam coins, clearly with all these sock puppet accounts floating around. But that doesnt change he fact that bytecoin is a good idea, really there is definitely room for one carbon copy of bitcoin in the market. If for no other reason than to give the gamblers a dedicated chain for all their spamming.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: BR0KK on April 05, 2013, 02:09:13 PM
Nope .... We need something other than carbon copy clones .... Cloning implies stagnation not froth or innovation.

Do we need another company to clone apple?;)


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 05, 2013, 02:11:15 PM
Nope .... We need something other than carbon copy clones .... Cloning implies stagnation not froth or innovation.

Do we need another company to clone apple?;)

yes it would be great if a company could clone apple, then apple would have to bring its prices down.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: s7ryker on April 05, 2013, 03:24:41 PM
i have 1.5 euro in my paypal account(activation fee)
il buy some bytecoins
1000 whould be nice  :)


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Luxor on April 05, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
People are having difficulty getting 1000 bytecoins for .2 bitcoins. So I don't think 1.5 Euro is going to make it.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: phantastisch on April 05, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
People are having difficulty getting 1000 bytecoins for .2 bitcoins. So I don't think 1.5 Euro is going to make it.

Because why should i bother ? 0.2 Btc ? Pffft... for this sum its not worth it to give you my worthless bytecoins... moving my mouse has a price , too !


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 05, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
People are having difficulty getting 1000 bytecoins for .2 bitcoins. So I don't think 1.5 Euro is going to make it.

Because why should i bother ? 0.2 Btc ? Pffft... for this sum its not worth it to give you my worthless bytecoins... moving my mouse has a price , too !

if 30 dollars is no big deal to you than you must be a lot wealthier than me.


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: s7ryker on April 05, 2013, 06:29:33 PM
can someone spare 2 bytecoin ?!
ty in advance!
8UvJtdWSZteUEsSfqGJRXG88cQeJWV2XQC


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 05, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
can someone spare 2 bytecoin ?!
ty in advance!
8UvJtdWSZteUEsSfqGJRXG88cQeJWV2XQC

sent


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: s7ryker on April 05, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
Ty Anon136
This coin need a real  market


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: Anon136 on April 05, 2013, 07:49:53 PM
Ty Anon136
This coin need a real  market

i think maybe ill put a bounty up for it


Title: Re: Will ByteCoin confuse people about BitCoin
Post by: holy_cow on April 05, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
A better name would have been Super Bitcoin 2 EX Alpha.