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Title: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 18, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
Believe as in it will achieve a far higher level of adoption usage than it has now.

Do you think ETH has a future where the world adopts it ?
You all have to admit it's used by primarily speculators hoping to turn a profit.
And unless you can get ETH used by a huge part of the world i don't think you can call it a success.
It would have to have adoption levels that exceed what Bitcoin has NOW !
Do you all honestly see this happening ?

So feel free to comment.
I don't have my FUD gun cocked waiting to fire either..
You all seen plenty of my ETH rants all over so my agenda here is not to rehash it all again.

I just genuinely am curious what percentage of the Altcoin scene users "believe" in Ethereum.

Obviously i do not believe in ETH and will vote NO.
I don't think it will get any major adoption greater than it has already.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: helloeverybody on October 18, 2016, 10:38:41 AM
Im still mining ethereum because its the most profitable coin for me but i dont really see it as a game changing coin. Ive never used it and i cant see me ever using it in the future, I actually wonder how many people are like me who dont plan to ever do anything with eth but continue to mine just for profit to exchange to btc, Id think quite a few.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: xuan87 on October 18, 2016, 10:47:01 AM
I used to believe ethereum can become bitcoin's sidekick, but not anymore, after the first hard fork,  i throw my trust away, i dont think ethereum can become successful in the future, and here comes another news that ethereum being forked again, so I think it will be a downhill for ethereum


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: greenuser on October 18, 2016, 11:33:30 AM
Blind Faith?  ;)  When i see mass adoption i will believe.
I believe these attacks are from the established banking sector and powerful Rothschild type people. Maybe they are pulling the main strings here.

Poor Vitalik, nobody told him you have to become friends and ask for permission to be rich and famous in this day and age.
They, (whoever the faceless puppet masters of the petrodollar are) are not great fans of competition.

If you want to dominate world currencies, at least have the savvy to be anonymous.   ;)


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: mummybtc on October 18, 2016, 11:43:13 AM
70% said they do not believe in Ethereum project  that is quite high, let's hope the Hard fork works fine, if it went south or there is another attack this could be the beginning of the end for ethereum


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: c4s7or on October 18, 2016, 12:21:19 PM
After the first hardfork most people predict ETH to be dead but it stayed more stable than everybody thought. This time the hardfork has more acceptance by the communtiy and it will lead to a stronger ETH. And about all the bad comments about ETH...with success comes hate :)


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Raja_MBZ on October 18, 2016, 12:51:33 PM
Actually there are hidden very big whales behind Ethereum, Microsoft still seems to be one of those. They are not letting the value of ETH go down and will not let that happen in near future as well. Constant pumping...

That's why, I believe in Ethereum. :P However, I've more believe in Classic, it has the potential to go up-to like tens of times in it's value.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: yaooke on October 18, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
Certainly. Vitalik Buterin will be the next Bill Gates. Buying ETH now is the equivalent of buying early Microsoft stock.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: CuriousGeorge on October 18, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
Certainly. Vitalik Buterin will be the next Bill Gates. Buying ETH now is the equivalent of buying early Microsoft stock.
Forgetting about the profit early but focusing on the hardfork of the ethereum that's are make the ethereum it's look like a bad coin with a lot of the problem and we are need the vitalik are giving a way for that. i feel bored about have always seen about the fork are always happened with ETH... i can't believe with it in this time.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Denker on October 18, 2016, 02:43:05 PM
Certainly. Vitalik Buterin will be the next Bill Gates. Buying ETH now is the equivalent of buying early Microsoft stock.

Really? Wow!
Then you maybe could make a quick screenshot of how much Ether you have bought the last several hours and share it with us!
I mean you must have done so because you're a strong believer and can't wait to get rich fast enough by such a safe pick with Buterincoin right?!



Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: robelneo on October 18, 2016, 02:47:56 PM
I'm surprise that the no vote is the most favored,as of this writing,I though people will still going to give this project a chance,after all they are already reach the billion dollar marketcap and people have adopted it .


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Minecache on October 18, 2016, 03:08:16 PM
ETH is the best crypto and is a gud investment for everyone looking to secure their children's future.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: aioc on October 18, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
ETH is the best crypto and is a gud investment for everyone looking to secure their children's future.

No votes has a wide margin if this is a good investment,then why people voted for the opposite,I hope this is not the opinion of the whole community ,they already each wide adoption and already bridge the billion dollar marketcap.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on October 18, 2016, 03:38:25 PM
to be honest, i used to believe in Ethereum but in the very beginning. when the project was still new and less shills were active. but as the spams started to appear and shills started to defend it i started to lose faith and it was dwindling when the hard fork came and faith was gone completely !


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Sark on October 18, 2016, 03:49:48 PM
Ethereum is attempting to create a distributed computing platform that is not like anything else we currently have in the world.

"Believe" is a dumb way to phrase the question, but I am guessing that was your intent to frame this into a religious debate.

There is a chance Ethereum can deliver, and if they can, it will be revolutionary and gain wide levels of adoption. There is also a chance they can fail since the platform is not worth very much if it cannot scale up while maintaining security. I see it as a high risk, high reward scenario.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: mining1 on October 18, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
One thing is certain, people believe more in ETH than they trust spotnik, one of the worst trolls and fudders the world has ever seen.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: explorer17 on October 18, 2016, 04:38:58 PM
I have found that Ethereum has been hyped too much too soon. The price is pretty high right now and does not reflect the fragility of the project. Does not mean it is not going to be successful but at this point it is still a gamble on the future. But just my personal opinion.

100% agree with you.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Minecache on October 18, 2016, 04:55:37 PM
ETH is the best crypto and is a gud investment for everyone looking to secure their children's future.

No votes has a wide margin if this is a good investment,then why people voted for the opposite,I hope this is not the opinion of the whole community ,they already each wide adoption and already bridge the billion dollar marketcap.
Well I for one have not voted and I'd discourage all from partaking in this vote as it's clearly been set up by Spoetniktard for all his sockie accounts. Anyone who truely understands and appreciates the tech doesn't need to justify their holdings in silly little polls.

Buy ETH. Hold ETH.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Minecache on October 18, 2016, 04:56:13 PM
One thing is certain, people believe more in ETH than they trust spotnik, one of the worst trolls and fudders the world has ever seen.
Spot on. Look at the little trolls trust levels. Disgusting.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 18, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Ethereum is attempting to create a distributed computing platform that is not like anything else we currently have in the world.

"Believe" is a dumb way to phrase the question, but I am guessing that was your intent to frame this into a religious debate.


There is a chance Ethereum can deliver, and if they can, it will be revolutionary and gain wide levels of adoption. There is also a chance they can fail since the platform is not worth very much if it cannot scale up while maintaining security. I see it as a high risk, high reward scenario.

No the word believe is accurate and correct.
It's a POLL asking whether you all "believe" Ethereum will in fact do more adoption wise.
Adoption is a tangible thing unlike praying to god you go to heaven.

Seeing as you replied to the question at hand i take it you really did grasp what i meant even though you prior claimed i was starting a religious debate.

In other words in your efforts to discredit me and shill for Ethereum you stuffed your foot in your mouth contradicting yourself hard.

Anyway i appreciate the replies from those of you being honest.. which i think was most of you.
It's been an interesting read and i did not expect so many NO votes.
Even with ETH puppet accounts here the voting right now is sill 11 = YES & 19 = NO  :o

As i suspected all along the majority of users are simply exploiting ETH for profits.
Which is a different thing than being a believer or supporter etc.



ETH is the best crypto and is a gud investment for everyone looking to secure their children's future.

No votes has a wide margin if this is a good investment,then why people voted for the opposite,I hope this is not the opinion of the whole community ,they already each wide adoption and already bridge the billion dollar marketcap.
Well I for one have not voted and I'd discourage all from partaking in this vote as it's clearly been set up by Spoetniktard for all his sockie accounts. Anyone who truely understands and appreciates the tech doesn't need to justify their holdings in silly little polls.

Buy ETH. Hold ETH.

WRONG.
You only started saying that after i accused you of using puppet accounts here long ago.
I have never logged into another account here ever.. have you Minecache ?
If staff wanted to confirm or deny this claim they are free to post.. i have nothing to hide.

Your slanderous attacks on me are pointless too.
My feedback rating here was explained many times before.
(There is a rational explanation for all of it)
i can not control what people post on my rating page.
People should take it all with a grain of salt.
After all look around.. see any agenda's ?

Mine ? To talk about Altcoins.

Minecache's ? He admitted to being a bag holder of Ethereum.

Further more the community voted him a fraud here too.
No one believes the trolling deceitful shit he posts here all the time.
AND !
You can see clearly his type of ETH commentary here going back to early 2016 has actually turned off users from ETH.
So this wind bag is actually doing his cause more harm than good but is too stupid to see it.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: yaooke on October 18, 2016, 06:54:19 PM
Wow, ETH rising and so few believers. Too bad for you guys, you're missing out!


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: SANALIU on October 18, 2016, 09:22:43 PM
iam believe ethereum ETH still big coin and big volume transaction
is etherum community is big use ethereum coin
another dev coin use technology etherum use token etherum is dev new altcoin

maybe long time over 5-10 year eth ethereum can replace and take over bitcoin


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: shyliar on October 18, 2016, 11:51:25 PM
Can't really answer the question. It's not clear enough. I'm not sure if you mean ETH the public chain or Ethereum the platform that has potential uses other than those associated with the public chain. If it's the public chain my expectations are not high. If Ethereum the platform out performs competitors platforms the people associated with that might end up very wealthy.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 19, 2016, 01:15:48 AM
Ya but it's not about wealth or millionaires being made from the project etc.

What is "it" ?

It.. is a computing platform as the guy said earlier (or what ever you all want to call it)
So lets break it down.. do you all think the platform will be used widely by the public ?
I am not asking if Crypto nerds are going to make a buck off of ETH.
Frankly i couldn't care less what happens within the crypto-bubble.

As far as i am concerned the only thing that matters lies beyond the little insulated world of Crypto.
Will mom & pop running a small business end up using ETH as it was intended one day ?
Will crypto "profiteers" gamble on ETH trading on Poloniex and make money ? Who gives a shit !
I sure as hell don't.

The question i posed may be tough to answer but it's a little tough to phrase..
I think you all got the idea except a few of you who are playing dumb about it.

Bottom line to me is i see a HUGE difference between trading profits and real world adoption usage.
They can be separate and distinct.
A "coin" can have a high market cap and there could be a lot of people who made money off it.
But that does not translate into real world usage by the public etc.

And i am not interested here in arguing with you all.. just asking you to post your opinion and / or Vote on the Poll.

It is what it is..
I may not like ETH but it's not going away anytime soon  :D
So i just meant this POLL as a survey of sorts on the current outlook on Ethereum.. right now.
This is not a topic i posted to try and convince you all either way about it.. do what you want people.
I posted MY opinion and you are all free to post yours.  :P


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Cryptotraider16 on October 19, 2016, 04:17:30 AM
wow..more is NO!


guys what is your mining cost for 1 eth?


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: jstern on October 19, 2016, 04:44:09 AM
I don't believe it will ever be greater than Bitcoin. I mean, how high can the founders pump it? It's bloated, and it's always going through some problems due to is Turin completeness.



Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: jstern on October 19, 2016, 04:49:05 AM
Blind Faith?  ;)  When i see mass adoption i will believe.
I believe these attacks are from the established banking sector and powerful Rothschild type people. Maybe they are pulling the main strings here.

Poor Vitalik, nobody told him you have to become friends and ask for permission to be rich and famous in this day and age.
They, (whoever the faceless puppet masters of the petrodollar are) are not great fans of competition.

If you want to dominate world currencies, at least have the savvy to be anonymous.   ;)

I don't think Ethereum even began to be a blemish in the behind of powerful trillion dollar industries. And if they are behind it, I don't think Vitalik not showing his identity would have prevented them from doing anything. It's not like they went after him personally.

One thing for sure, if he didn't show his identity, went out all over to talk about Ethereum, then it would probably have a 15 million market cap at the moment.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Pursuer on October 19, 2016, 07:20:58 AM
my answer is a big fat no :D

I may have thought ethereum is a good project and I may even have said it somewhere in the past if you look through my post history but after all this time and all the thing that I have seen from the behind the curtain of ethereum I no longer like or believe in it.

the only good that can come out of this coin is some temporary pump and dump and profit and nothing else.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: kiklo on October 19, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
Yes, I Believe in Ethereum.  ???   ???   ???

I Believe it is the Fastest way to Burn thru your money, aside from actually burning your money.  :D  :D  :D
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1494337/thumbs/o-MONEY-LOSS-570.jpg?2


 8)


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 19, 2016, 08:39:37 AM
I really hope people grasp my point earlier..
A currency being adopted beyond the world of Crypto is the point.
Not hanging around here looking to profit off something.

Like a guy said earlier.. you are missing out.
On what ? PROFITS ?

That wasn't the question  ::)

I was NOT asking do you think you will make money off of Ethereum.
I was asking if the "computing platform" will end up being used as intended.

Is "Mr. Missing" out using it ?
Is that what he meant when he said that a couple comments earlier ?
If so what is he "using" it for ?

ETH is living off of it's reputation of being pumped before and not much else.
The vortex of users involved with it are doing so because they consider it likely it will get pumped again.
That and the magical market walls that get put up when the price slumps.

@kiklo
Remember when i actually did that a year ago ?
I said i would sooner go outside in my yard and light my money on fire..
I said i'd do it tomorrow then come back and post pics.. and i did !

http://i67.tinypic.com/34488w0.jpg


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: xusxuquade on October 19, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
Iam believe ethereum because big community and high volume transaction


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: talkbitcoin on October 19, 2016, 11:09:09 AM
Iam believe ethereum because big community and high volume transaction

the community is only shills supporting ethereum with their spams and possibly getting paid to do so, and some of them are bag-holders.

and the high volume transactions you think you see are the pump and dumps that happen too often with ethereum, and what you think you see is day-traders trading to make more money from the fluctuation and dump when the fluctuations stop.


Title: Re: [POLL] Do you believe in Ethereum ?
Post by: Spoetnik on October 24, 2016, 06:02:47 AM
Doge fans said the same before or AUR etc etc..
Where are they now ?

Butters dumped and he will again so watch your ass's people.
Look at CoinmarketCap.. price fixed at $12

Like do what ya want be be ready to bail fast if need be trading guys.
Big difference between believing in it and using it to profit.