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If you would have to choose only one Bitcoin or cryptocurrency related investment, what would that be? Please BE SPECIFIC? Just the name or the link and a very brief explanation. If I also may ask signature campaign post hunters to avoid posting meaningless and non-specific comments here.

So, what s number one, SPECIFIC pls.

Investing in the future of Bitcoin would be the best, unfortunately it's not possible to do so, as far as I know. If the Bitcoin Foundation or something similar worked well, it could easily be a good place to invest. Continuously developed and secure wallets would be a great investment too (ex: Armory, Electrum)

I think margin lending is quite secure however return over investment may be low and also to minimize risk of lossing all you have better to use multiple exchange platform.
https://poloniex.com/support/aboutMarginTrading/


But till now i haven't find any risk free bitcoin/crypto investment where return is also high other than you doing manual crypto trading.

Yeah right its very hard to find any trusted  investment for bitcoins as most of them are scams and whose main  intention is to only have fun with people's money and run away with it in long run.

start a bitcoin business.
idea one:
retailer
either using a dropshipper to handle the stock on your behalf or buy stock direct.
in many cases you can make 10%-50% profit on the difference between the cost-retail.

keep the profit as bitcoin and buy more stock in fiat. trying to get the supplier to accept bitcoin to avoid the 'cashing out' to replenish stock.
rinse and repeat.

if business improves, hire someone and delegate them to run that business and then start a different business offering different produce/services.
do the same thing. but now you have 2 businesses with 2 income streams which reduce the risks of your products going out of fashion or not having demand.

expand into different product ranges and find the one that gets most attention, if one product range dies down then the employee delegated to it can get delegated to manage several product ranges that are managable, or you can cancl his contract if you feel you can manage it all alone.

keep finding the best produce to sell.

idea two:
meetup/conference
find suitable meeting rooms/conference arena's in an area where you know there is some bitcoin enthusiasts. start small like getting people to meet at a bar/pub. set up a fiat bar tab and get the other enthusiasts to pay bitcoin (indirectly to you) for the drinks and the bar/pub uses the fiat. if popular and regular get the bar/pub more involved and set them up to accept bitcoin direct. (you can still be the background exchange if you want).
use this as your sandbox to generate ideas and socialise while making a little bitcoin on the side. expand on this by hosting other meetups in different locations and get to know how many people are enthusiasts in the area.
find out what businesses those people work for and develop business deals with their employers. if there seems to be a few hundred enthusiasts and possible business interests in the area upscale to a conference. if thousands upscale to a convention

I genuinely don't think there is one. there have been occasional flukes like that miner company a few years back, I can't remember what it was called. other than that it's all scams or if it ain't a scam then you're guaranteed they'll burn your money.

no bitcoin business is making money other than exchanges and casinos.

??.. hmm
alpaca socks are still in business.
bitcoin conventions are still happening and organisers are making a good profit.
domain name services devoted purely to bitcoin are still running
there are lots more examples.

the reason why there are not millions of "bitcoin only" merchants is because the industry/economy is still new and small, its nothing to do with lack of opportunity. just lack of adoption.

aftre all we dont even have a viable bitcoin alternative to googles adsense.. hint hint to anyone interested,

I feel like the best investment in Bitcoin is still going to be internet based, for now.
And since sex sells, I'm going to say some sort of cam site.

Even taking a small percentage of the profits say 5-10% from each cam show would generate a huge amount of revenue if you had enough traffic.
You also would be able to generate some ad income on the site so that's another revenue stream.

When you have a moment, please take a look at RealEst. Coin and see what you think. This is a simple way to invest bitcoin into real estate with as little as $10, or as much as you'd like to invest. Payouts are monthly. The whitepaper is on http://RealEstCoin.com (http://RealEstCoin.com) and an announcement thread will be made soon in the Altcoin section.

A paper wallet. Anything else will eventually rip you off.

I prefer investing my coin in good ICO.I check devs and concept behind it and invest in the one I personally find good

Depending on the amount of Capital I have:

1. Casino : I think with about 50 - 100 btc I could start a bitcoin casino. This will require other things aside from capital such as
                 developer,website,etc. Would be better if you knew how to code yourself or have one you can trust. This sort of
                 investment/business comes with pretty high risk but, it's the first one that comes to mind when I think of businesses
                 connected to bitcoin.

2. Investments : Investing on casino bankroll. Doesn't require much work, all it needs is a casino you can trust with your money.

3. Online Shop : Retailer of goods. Could be digital, clothing & accessories, etc. Has a high potential especially since competition
                         is still small but demand is high. We all need shops where we can buy with our bitcoins.

yeah you really need to beware when investing bitcoin there is just so many scams about these days.  there is always someone looking to steal your money.

The best bitcoin investment today will be the new cryptocurrency in the Philippines they call it PESOBIT, this cryptocurrency is very promising. Since it is very new in the market and the very first in the Philippines it targets OFWs remittance that are apread all over the GLOBE. imagine the possible profit you will gain if you purchase it today before it will skyrocket by December. If you want to purchase go to the best online exchanger Yobit, then purchase pesobit or PSB today and sell it by next year.

I just give a voted for this because some passed days i investing in the pesobit ico and i got 10x of my amount in this day totally i can doubling or more my investment amount, but choosing the reputable ico, dude.

It's all about what you want, if you want security, put your money in a lot of things, casinos, altcoins, lending, anything... You can get 1-3% of revenue with safe.

If you want risk it all, bet on a good ICO, or just buy ETH and wait for some years...

There's not a absolutely best investment, nothing is easy in this world, you need some feeling and accept the risk.

Hmmm. I second third the motion of the above posters. ICO collected only about 50 BTC, but now it is trading at least 10 times the price. (It did have a bubble to 30x, but crashed in a couple of days.)

I'm also thinking of putting up another casino with a game that is provably fair for the crowdfunded public investors, with a private round just to get it started.

For me the best investiment would be in something of real life, like a business, a farm for an example. You lend them money in BTCs, they do their job and give you money back with interest. But it only worth if there is guarantee of real returns and that you won't be scammed.

Lend money with 100% sure to receive your money back with interest is the best investiment.

I prefer investing in cryptocurrency, as I prefer to take short-term investments. especially, cryptocurrency as far as I have been doing investment in it. I always get a good profit, and even more makes me so like was able to get a profit of 2-5 fold the price of ICO.

From some fact altcrypto isn't be a best way for be a short term investment but it's good for a long term investment considering from some coin are really having a lot of growth in a year already run the coin. the short term just for the bounty hunters are wanna for dumping their coin today. but a real investor are knew about the chance of that.

for me the best investment has always been trading, i invest in altcoins for a short period and then sell them when the price is high (don't confuse this with ICO, despite some people i am against it).

but i also think a good investment (the best) can be starting your own business with bitcoin. this can be anything, i can't be specific because it is really up to you which way to go.
for example there is no bitcoin exchange in my country so i may start one in the future.

I would say in an exchange traded fund, as the market is always constantly on the move, and naturally economies rise, and so do stocks.

I keep reading people who suggesting investing into casino bankrolls but I have found this to be extremely bad investment. I have tested several casinos which allow investments and gain were so low, almost non existent. In some cases I even lost small amount and had to wait weeks to get it back.

So why do people push this? Has anyone had satisfactory results from this.

I have had a very nice profits from certain PoS coins, DMD Diamond being one of my favourite ones, 25% annual interest, great and honest team, thumbs up Cryptonit. I do hold a lot of it.

I would be VERY careful about investing in any online gaming site.
Unless you know the owner/ admin real life, you have no idea if they are going to pullsome sort of exit scam,
and you also need to know that the games are actually fair.

I also doubt most casino sites have regular security audits.
It may be very easy for a determined hacker to get to your website wallet and steal your Bitcoin.

Investment is not really good but if yo uare going to choose another crypto currencies that really related on investment website then try to investment that coins sometimes investment site that accept bitcoin is not really live in the long run therefor they are scamming people always just make some research before yo do some investmen.

I don't like the word "absolutely" here because each way to earn bitcoin has their own positive and negative effects.

I think the best way to earn bitcoin in high amount and not too high risk is running a business like selling bitcoin clothes or accessories.

i also find investing in casino bankrolls a bad investment, however it is profitable in the long run because of the fact that the house always wins. but it is always a risky investment because we are talking about gambling after all.

i find this topic helpful: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.0

Establishing Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies news site is a good idea, because you can earn from several resources:
1- from advertisments companies like google adsense or mellow ads.
2- you can write reviews about new coins or new casinos, advertisers will pay high amount if your site is popular.
3- you can rent advertisment spots in your site for one week or one month.
I don't have accurate number how much will you pay for buying domain name or hiring good writers, but you can ask some experts.

there are just too many options.
- investing in casinos bankrolls which is high risk high reward kind of thing
- investing in ICOs which is also super high risk but high reward.
- and what I like is trading.
- you can also start your own business like starting a new casino on your own.


I have seen you advertise DMD before too, is it really that good?

I think better to invest in altcoins ICO specially the one which have good team behind and also provide full whitepaper to what they are hoping to provide in future. I remember lisk ICO few months ago giving good return to early investors.

For me best bitcoin investment is to establish a business that involves bitcoins accepting mostly now its good for online selling ,selling of goods and fashion things .
2nd option is trading of cryptocurrencies .
For now its both good for me cause bitcoin online and offline shops are not so popular so trading will be good also to do .

2 pages of BS and not a single idea worth of implementing. Establish a Bitcoin news websites says someone???? Hahaha, do you have any idea how much time and money needs for something like to work. One man news website? Or I hire 10 more freelancers to research and write.

Please, do not post just for posting. Concrete stuff, the same I ve said, DMD Diamond PoS coin. If you want to suggest something, suggest it.

there are some good suggestions among them! like the ICO investment, if you can find a good one it is a good profit opportunity.

besides you are asking such a general question with no information about yourself. for example how much money do you want to invest, how much time you want to spend, what skills and what experience do you have, and more importantly how willing you are to put some effort in and something tells me you might be a bit lazy.


well if you want to make money sometimes you have to invest money and sometimes you have to spend time and money to get to a point where you start making real money.
you think google became google overnight with the owner thinking i dont wanna hire 10 more people,....


:D

I have seen people arguing a lot about Primedice being good or bad casino but if it was me to invest money, I would invest in Primedice. Not sure that it's possible, though. I just like the way Primedice works and deals with clients. They also make contests and pay money.

Too long to argue piece by piece so I ll make it short. I m in crypto since 2012, I ve seen EVERYTHING THERE IS to be seen. I did CPU mining, GPU mining, ASIC minin, cloud mining, I did trading, margin, PoS, HDD mining, sig campaigns, casinos, masternodes etc, etc. Currently, I have portfolio of several successful and a few less successful investments and would to differentiate a bit more. Amount to be invested, 3 BTC, that s my limit per investment, due to risk differentiation. Hope this helps. If you do have something else to suggest, pls do, always like to test new stuff as long as it s not becoming the next Google.

What about botting? Has anyone had luck with that, crypto related bots?

The best investment by far that all know is trading. It gives good returns but it requires some knowledge and of course patience and good decision making skills since if you sell early you profit less or lose and if you sell late you can lose some of your money but it gives good returns. The site ill recommend you to use though is c-cex.com for me it is one of the best trading platform.

You may have seen casinos, but I have not seen a provably fair poker game. As in, when a player folds, NO ONE gets to see those cards. But can be proven (as far as hashes are concerned) that it was fairly dealt.

But 3 BTC isn't going to fund development of that. So, all the seals with clubs and pokerstars and similar, will never do it. There have been attempts at "mental poker", but I haven't seen a successfully implemented one.

I never have seen about the botting seems like a lot of people are feel worried for using 3rd parties. :D I don't know are using bot in the trading are working with 100% of accuracy?

So do you think people will come here and give to you the magic formula to make money?

"the best bitcoin investment" sounds like utopia.

The best bitcoin investment
and very fast grow your bitcoin is only trading, but must have skill

what do you mean by "botting", i can't see how it is related to your main question about "investment"

the only thing that comes to my mind about bots is that if you are a good programmer you can make bots for trading and use it to make your job easier so have a better and easier trading experience it is not going to make your investment any better.

you can also sell your bot again if you are a good programmer like what C.A.T is doing. this would be investing your time though!

There are no absolute investment website in bitcoin all are scammers even you are going to tried very work hard in bitcoin you still get lose some bitcoins and in the end all bitcoins are gone it's really too high risk when you are going to invest into bitcoin sites.

Either an international service like Uber that ONLY uses Bitcoin or creating a physical, real Bitcoin casino where you can deposit in real life and play on some machines with a control system (where you can choose a wager limit for the day so you won't spend more). Both could have a very high potential and could become big in short time.

The answer to this question depends on how much money can you actually afford to risk. If it's something big, then making your own company and putting up a service like exchange or a gambling site, then that might be the best bitcoin investment for you. We use websites like YoBit, C-cex, Paypal, PrimeDice, etc most of the time. The owner/s of those websites is/are now just relaxing because they know that there's always money incoming to their bank accounts. You can be one of those people but it would actually require a team and a lot of money.

Most of us don't have that much money to invest. Altcoin trading is good in this case. I guess I don't have to discuss what and how altcoin trading is done in here. You have to do a lot of research about it. Don't just go out there, deposit some capital, and start trading. You have to study first.

the "absolutely the best investment" is only possible if you come up with the idea for a new business yourself and then start it with a large capital (which you said you have 3BTC apparently) and then grow that business of your own.

otherwise all other investment suggestions would look unworthy to you.

Please don't me wrong, 3 BTC I have mentioned is a capital I m willing to allocate on this particular project. I do value project differentiation and this is why I rarely go over 3 BTC when investing in crypto. I do have several successful and profitable projects which generate money for me. However, finding more and expanding is something I always look for.

So, there MUST be something else I or you do not know. Please keep posting and exchanging ideas.

ok, that's a lot better.
in your case i say since you already have the experience doing so many different things including mining nobody can help you better than yourself.

with 3 bitcoin i think the best options are only mining and trading.

if you are into starting your own business, starting an online shop may be a good business too. you can sell anything you feel is good from digital to physical goods and accept bitcoin.

Running your own business based on bitcoin and a few other cryptocurrencies is your sure bet. Resigning your fate to the mercy of other business owners especially those online, who you never can tell if they even exist, have proven not to be quite productive. There are a million and one products and services people spend money on online. All one needs to do is a thorough research and come up with something, even an innovation of old business ideas would do it, though of course, patience, dedication and time have to play out their roles.

so when someone titles their post as the ABSOLUTELY THE BEST BITCOIN INVESTMENT, ok you got my intention but i know it has to be the absolute worst thing to do with my bitcoin ever........  ;D

While everyone has a different opinion of what the best Bitcoin investment is, I think the best Bitcoin investment would be to hold on to the Bitcoins you currently have and hope that the price per Bitcoin goes up. Currently, a single Bitcoin is trading at about $650 US dollars, which is near its high of the past two years, and up from a low of $300 US dollars of a year ago. With the demand of Bitcoins still very high, and the supply lowering every day, I think it would be best to just keep the ones you have right now and to buy more of them when the price is right.

The altcoin section is being grown exponential and I'm seeing that a very large audience is focused there.

And big investors are investing in altcoins for example in ICN millions of dollars were invested and given as a bounty to participants.

And I'm not saying that every ICO worth investing because every week I see new ico but we need to make a good research before making any investment.

Actually, bitcoin itself is also an investment. Just by keeping it safe and wait for to raise it value, this is safe and convenient way of investment. But if you really want adventure, try investing at gambling sites like moneypot, bitvest or betking etc. There are also cloud mining which is not i recommend because some of it are scams. Be careful to what site you are going to invest. Better make a good research.

Monepot generates 0% profit, even negative results during the last few months. As everything else, good investments get saturated really fast.

I agree with you 100%. The best way to earn fast is venture into trading but before you go into trading you must be sure you have all the required skills that is expected of a trader. With that and a small amount of bitcoin you are good to go. But after becoming trader also, we need to have sharpening our skills, that is the big requirement in trading field.

Trading s not only about skill, it s also about luck. There have been numerous situations where a coin would go up or down 500% due to a reason an ordinary trader would never be able to comprehend beforehand. Personally, I do not like activities where luck plays that significant role cause the lack of it causes people to lose money. Just consider the fact that in order for you to gain money from trading, somebody else needs to LOSE money from trading. It s not as if added value gets created out of thing air.

don't forget about "equipment" :)
i have found out that trading with bots watching the market 24/7 instead of you is a lot better than the traditional way of trading and the success rate is increased drastically when using a good bot for this purpose. but sadly i have not yet found such bots yet.

So you have found out bots re better then trading in person but you have not found such bot yet????

I agree with you on ICO, the only requirement for this is for you to do your own research on the project, check the Escrow, the developers behind the project, how realistic is their market project and pay attention to details

Do you guys think investing in Altcoins other than btc is good?

As i participated in the Pesobit (One of the altcoins) sig camp. I got myself around 5000 tokens, the ico price of it is 300 satoshi, and it went peak at 10,000 satoshi EACH but i didn't sell and the price goes back to 2,xxx satoshi right now.

300 satoshi > 10000 satoshi is like = x30.

Well, the next most promising project i think would be iconomi. It created lots of hype, news attention and so on.

Feel free to look here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.0

The price is still low right now to invest

I think it's having your own casino. There are only a few in this world that don't have profit, I guess it's rare to have such a casino. People go there and become greedy, I mean this is the business of having one. You need a big bank roll though. Or maybe creating a Bitcoin real life casino, where you can only play with Bitcoin. That'd be the first one to exist..

Alt coin trading for sure, because that is the only investment i can think of without having any other special skills that i can use for something better, but i know if i have bitcoins i can use them in trading as i know how it works and i'm sure i can earn profits out of that.

If you have Bitcoin... Just Hold it ! Many Really smart people working @ it.
Thank you CrazyIvan for this great thread. I love to get a pm from U anytime.

Hah, that s a nice post, thank you bud for contributing.

Getting back to the topic, I am a person who generally hates faucets and similar low paying stuff which usually requires a lot of work. However, I ve found a nice faucet which actually can generate some money, only peanuts, but something it s all your need to start another project.

What about you, what kind of small earners do you use to start a new project?

The best is by far for me to invest in the promising ICOs. Look, I've invested in Waves and now I'm satisfied of my move :) !

True, but this is big time risk. A promising ICO comes once per year, max. What about the rest of the year?

i mean there are times when i am in the market or i am offline and see what has happened the next day and see that if i had been running a good bot, i could have used that opportunity.

and i have not yet seen a good bot that can satisfy what i have in mind, and i have never tried those expensive bots either.

have a self made bot with some help from here and there but not a good yet.

Wanna know why there seems to have a very few gambling casinos that don't make profit? It's because that the ones that didn't get their ROI shut down so you probably never heard of it. Just like the thousand companies out there that has shut down. The only ones that are getting recognized are the best and most popular ones.

There's no bitcoin casinos in real life for 2 reasons. (1.) People that use bitcoin are always on their computer so they gamble on their computer (2.) Gamblers that would go to your casino would assume that they will be playing with fiat and not bitcoins. You will just put them in disappointment when they go inside your casino only to find out that fiat isn't accepted. And don't even try to mix fiat and bitcoin in your casino. Fiat will the only currency most people will use to play and bitcoin wouldn't even be noticed.

i thought these sort of meaningless threads were to be deleted or moved or sumthing like that? 

Well its just a nature of gambling. but for me i'll stay in gambling casino in bitcoin since i dont need to go outside in my house and gambling here in my country are all ban because   president ban it they know thats why people are poor here in my country its because of gambling..

altcoin POS is the best investment with very low risk, especially if it is a stable coin that is running for few years.

For me the best bitcoin investment is holding the bitcoin in a secret account and nothing else. Every other form of investment will require a third party to intervene and hence you may or may not loose the money.

So what I do is that I store all my bitcoins in more than one accounts and I have never disclosed those account details in any website. I only trade with a small portion of my bitcoin holding when I get time. I believe holding bitcoin is the best investment you can start.

Maybe a wise bet ? I'm not a addicted gambler, I simply bet like one time per two months, but with big sums. Something you're sure can bring you 25~50% at one time, so with one bitcoin or two, it can be worth it. I plan my moves a few weeks even months before sometimes.

There are many bots out there that can do that good job of profitable trading for just that they are somehow expensive to purchase. If you have enough capital for trading you can search for these bots and you will surely find the one that is most suitable to you. But here my suggestion would be, do not touch live market with new bot directly. Do lot of mock trading with bots initially.

If thinking about alternative currencies it's only worth putting anything into if you find the right one.

Although it sounds obvious, just buy BTC... We know what it's worth with some intense analysis + the returns would match any alt-coins during the next spike.

This is fine but I like to have if not daily at least weekly interaction with crypto and I rarely rely on pure luck. Cause if you do that, you might get hit by a market move similar to what ve been feeling the last few days. Almost everything red, double digit red.

Still seeking ONE SINGLE recommendation, something concrete, not a general story like TRADE coins. Give me a name, a website, something worth of checking out.

Very clever, you can never keep all your eggs in one basket

Damn, I think I should close down this thread. I guess none s got crypto related ideas or project to share anymore.