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Title: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Rizqi on October 20, 2016, 02:25:33 AM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???


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Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: BTCSpearo on October 20, 2016, 03:10:23 AM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???


#A.mry   ???

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Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: clickerz on October 20, 2016, 03:35:57 AM
I think its the duty of the government to uplift the lives of its citizen. A corrupt government,means suffering,poverty,inefficient public services on health and chaos to its constituents. What we need is a decisive leader who has compassion on the poor.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: ObscureBean on October 20, 2016, 08:12:56 AM
Poor people are poor simply because they prioritize different things in life compared to rich people. If poor people are happy with their lives then there's no need to blame anyone for anything. It's like when you're at school, some will pay attention and learn while others will skip as many classes as they can get away with. Some prioritize their studies, others prioritize having fun with friends. It's a choice people make.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Slow death on October 20, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
I think its the duty of the government to uplift the lives of its citizen. A corrupt government,means suffering,poverty,inefficient public services on health and chaos to its constituents. What we need is a decisive leader who has compassion on the poor.

You are correct. poor countries have one and solely responsible, the corrupt government and dictator.

In countries where governments are corrupt and dictators, people do not have equal opportunities. these countries of dictators and corrupt, people are extremely limited. People very rich are the relatives of the country leaders.









Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: dreamer81 on October 20, 2016, 10:11:37 AM
The poor are responsible for their own fate.  They can change it if they want, but most of them don't care, and just blame the rich of their poorness.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: virtualx on October 20, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???

I think in the beginning people are responsible for their own situation: health, finance, relationships. However, society does not teach its citizens good lessons about health, finance nor relationship. Most of society relies on single source of income (one job) and are not allowed to have other sources of income. This is a very unstable situation.

The poor are responsible for their own fate.  They can change it if they want, but most of them don't care, and just blame the rich of their poorness.
Not necessarily. Sometimes their ex-wife, patent-troll,criminal or the mafia is responsible. Sometimes a nation wants to destroy an individual (including finance). While individual choices may often be the reason, it's not always.

Example case: identity theft. someone makes thousands of transactions using your personal name.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Daniel91 on October 20, 2016, 02:20:55 PM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???


#A.mry   ???

It seems like very simple question but answer is very complicate.
Most people will judge government but they can't be responsible for everything.
Our parents and families are also responsible for us.
Our communities and relatives to.
If they all fail, it's really difficult to succeed in life.
Many young people don't have good examples around them.
Many of them don't believe in hard work and education and wants fast success.
Many of them end up as criminals.
Can we blame government for everything?
I don't think so.
We also have our individual responsibility and can choose our life path.

 




Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: igorokavg13 on October 20, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
So constituted the world economy. In addition, the population of different countries allow their leaders to steal. Here and pay for it.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: zenitzz on October 20, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
It is a duty and a responsibility to help those in need because without helping someone in need, is not part of humanity.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: yuiyuga on October 20, 2016, 08:12:47 PM
So arranged the world financial system. This is cruel and not fair system. But unfortunately can not all be rich in the world.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: LTU_btc on October 20, 2016, 09:00:09 PM
Every person is responsible for they life. If people is poor, in mostly cases this is his own fault. Many people isn't well educated, they don't have ambitions to live better. Rich people reached their success by hard work.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Racey on October 20, 2016, 09:16:54 PM
Every person is responsible for they life. If people is poor, in mostly cases this is his own fault. Many people isn't well educated, they don't have ambitions to live better. Rich people reached their success by hard work.


Not necessarily, college educated graduates with degrees cannot find a decent job these days.
Jobs are very scarce indeed.

Retail jobs rotate the staff, every so on, maybe six months or so, this what they do put a false positive of government figures, which usually say unemployment is lower than this time last year which is pure manipulation and so wrong.

I would consider myself above average in education, but in the same boat as many others who are unemployed.
Hard work and determination can work for some people, and the opposite is true for others who work hard whether you have ambition or not/
Lots of people are spoon fed into good paying jobs that pay a decent salary, it's not what you know, its who you do know, especially for that important step into the jobs market.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: countryfree on October 20, 2016, 10:37:53 PM
Who is responsible for everything ???

Nobody's responsible for everything. I'm trying to be responsible for my life and my family, but that's all I can do. No man shall be responsible for the life of another man, unless you're against the most basic form of equality.

I see less and less differences between countries. Leaders are incompetent nearly everywhere.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: traderethereum on October 20, 2016, 10:49:50 PM
i think government will be responsible because the poor is their citizen, and government only help people which want to change their life, and for them who don't want to change their life, government can't do anything to them. its true, we are take responsibility for our life, but we need help from other people to get change.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: LTU_btc on October 20, 2016, 10:51:08 PM
Every person is responsible for they life. If people is poor, in mostly cases this is his own fault. Many people isn't well educated, they don't have ambitions to live better. Rich people reached their success by hard work.


Not necessarily, college educated graduates with degrees cannot find a decent job these days.
Jobs are very scarce indeed.

Retail jobs rotate the staff, every so on, maybe six months or so, this what they do put a false positive of government figures, which usually say unemployment is lower than this time last year which is pure manipulation and so wrong.

I would consider myself above average in education, but in the same boat as many others who are unemployed.
Hard work and determination can work for some people, and the opposite is true for others who work hard whether you have ambition or not/
Lots of people are spoon fed into good paying jobs that pay a decent salary, it's not what you know, its who you do know, especially for that important step into the jobs market.
Good point. I agree that it's hard to find jobs for educated people. But many are making mistakes by choosing what to study in university. They often choose professions without good perspectives and after study it will be hard to find job.
I think that it's not necessary to be graduate of university or college to earn good money. Some people who are working for example in factory, earn good salary. Offcourse, in start he will mot many money, but if he will work productive and improve his qualification, he can earn nice money.
But as you said, hard work don't guarantee decent salary, there are many factors inside it.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: saddampbuh on October 21, 2016, 04:29:35 AM
people aren't getting poorer,there are too many poor people being born in africa and elsewhere

i worked for years retail almost minimum wage, lived on canned tuna bread and water for years, saved money lost it on failures here and there, after years of hardship found something that worked and now i make 1k a day and setting up a new business which will be 5k a day by this time next year, i have no duty towards anyone else and i owe the poor nothing


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: dreamer81 on October 21, 2016, 08:18:11 AM
Every person is responsible for they life. If people is poor, in mostly cases this is his own fault. Many people isn't well educated, they don't have ambitions to live better. Rich people reached their success by hard work.


Not necessarily, college educated graduates with degrees cannot find a decent job these days.
Jobs are very scarce indeed.

Retail jobs rotate the staff, every so on, maybe six months or so, this what they do put a false positive of government figures, which usually say unemployment is lower than this time last year which is pure manipulation and so wrong.

I would consider myself above average in education, but in the same boat as many others who are unemployed.
Hard work and determination can work for some people, and the opposite is true for others who work hard whether you have ambition or not/
Lots of people are spoon fed into good paying jobs that pay a decent salary, it's not what you know, its who you do know, especially for that important step into the jobs market.

Just because you took a college degree, doesn't make you any smarter than the poor who sit on the corner begging for money. A lot of college students still think they can pick and choose an education that fits them, but they wake up after they have finished with no job. What went wrong? They weren't wiser than the poor people to select an education that actually is needed.

Take a college degree in computer science, and a job is alsmost guarenteed. But did you do that? no. Why not? maybe it doesn't interest you. Dont expect that the world will lay itself down flat in front of you. You dont have all the possibilities that our parents preached about. Select an education with a low unemployment rate, no matter if you like the job or not, and you will be on your way to a better life.

Select an education based on your desires, and your luck will determine your fate.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Winter1986 on October 21, 2016, 08:22:31 AM
A lot of poor people begging because they do not want to work. Begging they turned in work. To these people I am extremely negative.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Clover_Faith on August 02, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???


#A.mry   ???

It seems like very simple question but answer is very complicate.
Most people will judge government but they can't be responsible for everything.
Our parents and families are also responsible for us.
Our communities and relatives to.
If they all fail, it's really difficult to succeed in life.
Many young people don't have good examples around them.
Many of them don't believe in hard work and education and wants fast success.
Many of them end up as criminals.
Can we blame government for everything?
I don't think so.
We also have our individual responsibility and can choose our life path.


Any people ain't responsible for the poor yet it can be their anyone's responsibility if they foresee the side of them but the most people whose responsible for them were the poor themselves. It's not about the richs' duties cause they do their very part but not all the part. It's about the people whom ain't  striving hard and dream for a better life for their future.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: LevshaK1 on August 02, 2017, 11:26:30 AM
Poor people remain poor because they do not want to work hard and they do not have specific goals in life, but the rich get richer, that they work hard and set their goals.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Lieldoryn on August 02, 2017, 12:15:04 PM
This is not always the case. Many super rich people monopolized the economy and deliberately making people poor. So they become dependent and they are easier to manage. It is beneficial to the government. They are in the same boat with the oligarchs, and the antitrust laws are not working.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Palider on August 02, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???


#A.mry   ???

There are different reasons for this. But I think the main reason is (which is what I've observed in my country), some poor people have more kids which means they need to provide more and yet they have lower salary because they weren't able to finish their studies. Some poor people are too lazy they just depend on the people who usually provides for their family.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: supine on August 02, 2017, 01:28:51 PM
Where no country has prospered citizens ?? Because many of the poor are getting poorer, the rich get richer, what's this all ??? Who is responsible for everything ???


#A.mry   ???

You can't blame the government for being poor. It's true that the government can provide projects that would help the poor people, but everything depends on ourselves. If we don't work hard and aim for bigger opportunities, we would always stay poor. One of the reason why people are poor is because they are lazy and they are easy to be contented with what they have. But, I don't have anything against those poor people, I admire them for being simple and contented.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: johnextman852 on August 02, 2017, 01:39:08 PM
"When you born poor, it's not your fault but if you die poor then it's your fault" Bill Gates

even though you are born poor you have still the chance to be a rich person someday. Hardword and determination will put you to success! 


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Bored Logic on August 02, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
human stupid ness and greed


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Bagaji on August 02, 2017, 06:31:05 PM
In my own opinion i will blame government for not wake up to there responsibility in making life difficult for the poor and vulnerable people in the societies. Most of the rich people became rich not from legitimate business but corrupt practices especially in the developing countries and underdeveloped world.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Bagaji on August 02, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
The poor are responsible for their own fate.  They can change it if they want, but most of them don't care, and just blame the rich of their poorness.
I don't agree with your submission that the poor in the societies are responsible for being poor. Government is responsible to some extent because most government of  underdeveloped and developing countries fail to bridge the gap between the poor and the so called rich people. They create enabling environment for the for the call rich to amage wealth. Most of the rich especially in the developing countries are corrupt individuals who get tax payer money and make laws in favor of them self. The worst of all developed countries encourages stolen funds into their countries with their policy.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Ljanesanti on August 02, 2017, 10:52:41 PM
I would say the people and the government itself. Let's  say if the government done their part and given the people opportunity to move forward and still people cant do something with their life then who to blame? The people itself.YOU. Same goes, vice versa. Both parties should go hand and hand with regards to this issue. One should not blame only one party or side.


Title: Re: Who is responsible for the poor, the rich people will forget their duties
Post by: Sithara007 on August 03, 2017, 12:51:33 AM
Poor people remain poor because they do not want to work hard and they do not have specific goals in life, but the rich get richer, that they work hard and set their goals.

Exactly. Even Bill Gates once said about this. Here is his quote:

Quote
If you are born poor its not your mistake, But if you die poor its your mistake.

The poor people should not complain about their poverty. Instead they should work hard and become rich.