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Title: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: MonkeyManofLife on October 23, 2016, 02:11:44 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: zend7 on October 23, 2016, 02:21:20 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!

No cloud miner has given us profit so far, I mean the legit ones like Hashnest because from other cloud miner scams like Hashocean and the alikes surely they have given profit to some people who join them first but at what cost ? At the cost of being paid with money stolen from other people. So no , no one knows a good cloud miner because it doesn't exist yet and it will be even more difficult to exist in the future because of galloping bitcoin difficulty.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: MonkeyManofLife on October 23, 2016, 02:33:39 PM
The thing is why would be create cloud miners to just give people money and now make money now that I think of it people using Cloud Miners are just getting scammed


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: MonkeyManofLife on October 23, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Also, they are just paying you back with the bitcoin you paid and than the fee's go above how much money you make , they are just a big scam and don't make you any money , So is there any other way to get money without buying the hardware?


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on October 23, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
Also, they are just paying you back with the bitcoin you paid and than the fee's go above how much money you make , they are just a big scam and don't make you any money , So is there any other way to get money without buying the hardware?
Well mostly cloud mining site are not profitable activity, there are not way to get money without buying hardware (real hardware or mining hardware not cloud mining) although the mining hardware is need much time for return of investment too.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: crazyivan on October 23, 2016, 03:23:10 PM
The only cloud contract which has made me profits is Hashflare, but only scrypt contract which mines Litecoin.

Here is one review which s very similar to what I ve been getting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579210.0


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: mrcash02 on October 23, 2016, 03:48:45 PM
No, I don't suggest any cloud mining site. You will lose your money if you send money to this kind of site. The cloud mining income is lowest each new day, making impossible to retrieve your investment on "lifetime" contracts or any other kind of offers.

And those profitable cloud minings are just ponzi hyip schemes, they aren't mining anything. Just stealling money from investors. This kind of site can closes anytime without any guarantee of profit. So, stay away from this kind of sites.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: Hazir on October 23, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Op, I guess you don't care about mining at all, but instead you want to gain profits by investing in some serious projects.
Give up you cloud mining ambition. I can name a dozen failed "cloud mining' companies which turned out to be Ponzi (all collapsed now):
lunaminer.com, cointellect.com, grmining.com, cloudminr.io, cryptomine.io, coinsoncloud.eu, cloudmining.website and MANY more.
     
You will be better invest in casino bankroll than in recent cloud mining projects - 99% of them are Ponzi HYIPs
Even if you find a legit one clud mining - don't expect a serious profits.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: TraderETH on October 27, 2016, 04:35:40 AM
In my opinion if you want try bitcoin cloud mining service you can joint on hashnest.com, they can be trusted because they have clear support hardware miners, but doesn't mean it is profitable it is just for trying cloud mining service and i don't recomended for making investment large amount.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: airdata on October 27, 2016, 08:23:14 AM
yeah try hashnest, but you must be try to calculate your plan investment before you put your money to cloud mining   


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: Tyrantt on October 27, 2016, 11:50:45 AM
Anyone here profited from cloud mining, can u share experience/tips? I remember investing in CEX.io when it had cloudmining service, yes the fees were high in the start but then I've actually made a pretty decent profit. So I'm kind of interested in investing into cloudmining since I don't have that much of a free time do play around.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: keyscore44 on October 27, 2016, 11:55:02 AM
Also, they are just paying you back with the bitcoin you paid and than the fee's go above how much money you make , they are just a big scam and don't make you any money , So is there any other way to get money without buying the hardware?

As guys mentioned in posts above - HashNest is the most legit cloud mining, but it is not easy to earn from there..

Very important is time of buying mining hardware and time of selling him. It was to risky for me.. So i start trading on Hashnest market. Market is not deep, so is good to trade with less then 1000 Ghz. Thats not much, but if you are fast and smart you can gain a bit in this way ;)


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: crazyivan on October 27, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
I ll repeat myself, Hashflare scrypt is the only cloudmining account which can make you money under condition you reinvest at least 30% of payouts, if not 50%. Everything else I know of is pure BS, including this zcash from genesis mining.

So, only this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579210.0



Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: Oilacris on October 28, 2016, 07:28:12 AM
Some members  do  suggest hashflare and genesis  for cloud  mining which  is   somehow a  good  to invest  but    it would really need decent amounts to  feel the profit  on  investing to this   kind  of cloud  mining  activities but still i dont  have trust to  these  things anymore. Even though they were  trying   to say  about  its  profitability  but  it wont convince  me anymore. For OP you could actually choose  both  on genesis or hashflare. Its  up to you  which really suits  you.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: daneranon89 on October 28, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
I ll repeat myself, Hashflare scrypt is the only cloudmining account which can make you money under condition you reinvest at least 30% of payouts, if not 50%. Everything else I know of is pure BS, including this zcash from genesis mining.

So, only this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579210.0



hashflare scrypt mining contracts seems profitable for the time being. But how far can they deliver it? That is an important question. I have invested some in bitcoin mining and scrypt mining in hashflare. Bitcoin mining is not much profitable. Scrypt mining has some hope even though I have not yet ROI my investments.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: Pursuer on October 28, 2016, 07:43:28 AM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!

none of them are good because they are all Ponzi shcemes not a legit mining business.

there may have been one or two legit mining services online which called themselves cloudmining service a year ago but they all have stopped because of the difficulty and the cost of running a legit mining service.

right now all cloudmining sites you see are just a website with no real mining in the background.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: harizen on October 28, 2016, 07:50:29 AM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!

You need tons of money to feel the profit "if there's really a good cloudmining company". It's not as easy as you think.

What to do now? Forget cloudmining investment and make new room in your mind to learn new things to earn bitcoin. Trading, offering services, freelancing or any kinds of work like how you think to earn fiat.

Those cloudmining companies that really gaves profit to their investors in the past aren't really a legit one. They just able to get more investors that's why money are rotates and able to pay those early ones. And after acquiring a big amount, they left instantly without a trace.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: iv4n on October 28, 2016, 08:12:27 AM
Newbie asking once again about cloud mining service. I see this all the time on FB and Twitter, people are advertising this services all the time, they share it in groups, profiles, comments like crazy. It's going like this:

"FSTP is a very nice system, I apeal to all worldwide participent Join this system & get 100% growth.Any quiry,communication call- 8698162666. Only need to do a simple task every day and you can get 100% interest after complete task, it’s amazing, thanks to MMM FSTP community that make peoples here can realize their dreams of wealth. Register Here..."

"New Bitcoin Cloud Mining ckminer
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I don't believe in this services, they just pop-up every day. Who is paying them to do this, or those are fake profiles with only purpose to advertise some services?
And why newbies ask this question all the time? Are they testing what people think about this services?


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: tiggytomb on October 28, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
The only one which I have used was Genesis Mining, just finished a year contract on the X11 mining and made a tiny tiny ROI, it takes a long time to get anything back. 

Hashflare is another one which some people have verified as being decent but I have never used it, do be careful with any new sites that pop up as they will most likely take your money.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: PantminerS7 on October 28, 2016, 08:36:00 AM
Cloud mining is a gamble on whether the rig(/pool) you are renting will hit enough blocks during your contract to make you profit. There's no good way to calculate this, as the expected luck for each block is always 100% (unless there's something wrong with the setup). However, if you have more power/a bigger pool, you're more likely to hit many blocks during a given time period, although there's no guarantee that you won't hit a bad streak and not even find a single block during the time of your contract...

So, it's up to you of course. I just find that, like mining in general, just buying BTC would be more profitable and easier. Save yourself the headache of staring at miner graphs, expected block times and the remaining time on your contracts; buy BTC.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: ultrloa on October 28, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
The only one which I have used was Genesis Mining, just finished a year contract on the X11 mining and made a tiny tiny ROI, it takes a long time to get anything back. 

Hashflare is another one which some people have verified as being decent but I have never used it, do be careful with any new sites that pop up as they will most likely take your money.

That is the issue really on genisis mining, the roi is to little and that is not enough for long time waiting, and seriously we should not bother to invest on either new or old ones since cloudmining business is totally dead and u think those remaining running at these days are only scammers who offer to good to be true profit to their investors and that one should we better to take care of and be vigilant always at the time.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: TraderETH on October 28, 2016, 10:01:39 AM
The only one which I have used was Genesis Mining, just finished a year contract on the X11 mining and made a tiny tiny ROI, it takes a long time to get anything back. 

Hashflare is another one which some people have verified as being decent but I have never used it, do be careful with any new sites that pop up as they will most likely take your money.

That is the issue really on genisis mining, the roi is to little and that is not enough for long time waiting, and seriously we should not bother to invest on either new or old ones since cloudmining business is totally dead and u think those remaining running at these days are only scammers who offer to good to be true profit to their investors and that one should we better to take care of and be vigilant always at the time.
I agree, if we looked a back there was cloud mining service that offering short time for return of investment, it was zencloud and this service had support for hardware from gaw miner. But in the ending it was die because of ponzy scheme and i think for today there are no cloud mining service will be survive for long time.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: x4 on October 28, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!
Why do people are expecting that they will get profit to cloud mining sites, I don't think that this sites will give back totally 100% their invested coins there to those who use this services. This sites are provably scam, I admit that I use also this service before but that was when I'm currently new in bitcoin only faucets and cloud mining sites are only I know but time passed and I already give on this services. And there's no legit in this sites, even the genesis and hashflare will gone soon it will happen when the bitcoin price rise until they reach their quota. So be careful of what you are choosing, but anyways thats not my money at all, so you have the final decision anyway.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: BitHodler on October 28, 2016, 04:45:24 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!
Why do people are expecting that they will get profit to cloud mining sites, I don't think that this sites will give back totally 100% their invested coins there to those who use this services. This sites are provably scam, I admit that I use also this service before but that was when I'm currently new in bitcoin only faucets and cloud mining sites are only I know but time passed and I already give on this services. And there's no legit in this sites, even the genesis and hashflare will gone soon it will happen when the bitcoin price rise until they reach their quota. So be careful of what you are choosing, but anyways thats not my money at all, so you have the final decision anyway.
People seriously expecting to ROI with cloud mining nowadays, are either dumb, or they knowingly invest into something from which they know it's a likely scam. I don't know which is worse.

In the early days of the cloud mining industry there were a bunch of people reaching ROI after some time while this service turned out to be a scam later. But it were the early days.

Right now we have seen so many scam sites, that people shouldn't want to invest their money into that exact same industry anymore. It's done.

But even considering that, there are still people (noobs) keeping these sites alive by feeding them their hard earned dollars. It's mind boggling how people can be so greedy and dumb.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: mrcash02 on October 28, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!
Why do people are expecting that they will get profit to cloud mining sites, I don't think that this sites will give back totally 100% their invested coins there to those who use this services. This sites are provably scam, I admit that I use also this service before but that was when I'm currently new in bitcoin only faucets and cloud mining sites are only I know but time passed and I already give on this services. And there's no legit in this sites, even the genesis and hashflare will gone soon it will happen when the bitcoin price rise until they reach their quota. So be careful of what you are choosing, but anyways thats not my money at all, so you have the final decision anyway.
People seriously expecting to ROI with cloud mining nowadays, are either dumb, or they knowingly invest into something from which they know it's a likely scam. I don't know which is worse.

In the early days of the cloud mining industry there were a bunch of people reaching ROI after some time while this service turned out to be a scam later. But it were the early days.

Right now we have seen so many scam sites, that people shouldn't want to invest their money into that exact same industry anymore. It's done.

But even considering that, there are still people (noobs) keeping these sites alive by feeding them their hard earned dollars. It's mind boggling how people can be so greedy and dumb.

The most investors of this kind of sites are newbies without much knowledge about Bitcoin, Ponzi HYIP schemes... It's a very easy way to earn money and they want to believe that. Many of those investors don't access this forum also, so the information doesn't reach to them.

But I believe the popularity of Cloud Mining sites isn't the same of the early days. A big part of Bitcoin enthusiasts already discovered that it's not profitable.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: BitHodler on October 28, 2016, 11:23:38 PM
The most investors of this kind of sites are newbies without much knowledge about Bitcoin, Ponzi HYIP schemes... It's a very easy way to earn money and they want to believe that. Many of those investors don't access this forum also, so the information doesn't reach to them.
Most of these people are indeed newbies, but regardless of them being inexperienced, people that are looking to invest their money into something, should do some research before actually pumping money into something.

It's normal to browse through the internet to see whether or not the site or service you plan to invest in is profitable, whether or not there are complaints, whether or not there are already people that have been scammed, and the list goes on.

If people don't do that, and blindly put their money into a certain site or service, then these people aren't only gambling with their money, but in my eyes they also lose the right to complain.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: shinratensei_ on October 29, 2016, 07:22:32 AM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!

You need tons of money to feel the profit "if there's really a good cloudmining company". It's not as easy as you think.

What to do now? Forget cloudmining investment and make new room in your mind to learn new things to earn bitcoin. Trading, offering services, freelancing or any kinds of work like how you think to earn fiat.

Those cloudmining companies that really gaves profit to their investors in the past aren't really a legit one. They just able to get more investors that's why money are rotates and able to pay those early ones. And after acquiring a big amount, they left instantly without a trace.
Yes, you're right and the other trick from cloud mining site are about the fuckin ROI, it's can be manipulating by the cloud mining anytime they want and that's so weird if someone never gets their ROI.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: Oilacris on October 29, 2016, 09:23:22 AM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit !

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!

Hi OP,  you should change  your  perspective  regarding  onto these cloudmining sites  because   its  not ideal to  join  one of these  because they are  just total scams  and   such a waste  on your money. Dont let   to  lose  even  more  money  intending to join more cloud  mining site which is  not a good choice to  continue.  Theres  no  best cloud  mining company as  of now  better to  invest  on  actual hard  mining .


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: severaldetails on October 29, 2016, 01:49:13 PM
Please, please, please, just stay away from those cloud mining systems!
They are nothing but scams. All of them.
That cloud mining crap is one reason why bitcoin is still having a bad reputation in public opinion.
Of course, everybody who invests there is led by greed, not by reason and therefore somehow deserves it to get scamed.
Still people complain and draw a bad picture of the whole bitcoin system.
It would be such a releafe for the bitcoin community if those systems just no longer would be used!


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: bitjamz on November 01, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
https://www.genesis-mining.com/ the only one i would trust. Zcash contracts could be profitable

promo discount code of 3 % on all Hashpower packages: N6inMQ


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: shinratensei_ on November 01, 2016, 10:14:15 AM
https://www.genesis-mining.com/ the only one i would trust. Zcash contracts could be profitable

promo discount code of 3 % on all Hashpower packages: N6inMQ
To be honest the ROI are becoming any problem for all about investing in cloud mining site, and i just wanna for think for a twice in this day i got a lot of people are selling their contract and what happen with that if that is profitable?


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 01, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
https://www.genesis-mining.com/ the only one i would trust. Zcash contracts could be profitable

promo discount code of 3 % on all Hashpower packages: N6inMQ
To be honest the ROI are becoming any problem for all about investing in cloud mining site, and i just wanna for think for a twice in this day i got a lot of people are selling their contract and what happen with that if that is profitable?

ROI would  really be expected to be  longer  because  the difficulty on mining  has been  increased thats  why   contracts  are being sold  off  by  some  investors  on cloud  mining sites and  its not really profitable already and most  cloudmining are just  total scams and  not advisable to  join at all.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: dArkjON on November 01, 2016, 01:09:11 PM
i also have some real Hashpower for rent, maybe someone is interested 100 or 200/sol for zcash mining :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667698.0

Nicehash charge in the same time 72$ per day or 8,8 BTC for a 3 month period  ::)


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: mobnepal on November 01, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
No any cloud mining platform can be profitable for sure and most of the cloud mining platform may run away within first year of operation or even before 1 year. And by that time it is sure than you can't get your ROI back. Better to buy own mining hardware and start mining in real life if you have cheap electricity rather than trusting virtual mining all those cloud mining service provider provides.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: mrcash02 on November 01, 2016, 04:21:01 PM
https://www.genesis-mining.com/ the only one i would trust. Zcash contracts could be profitable

promo discount code of 3 % on all Hashpower packages: N6inMQ

This genesis mining can be "legit", but they won't give you profit. Each new day the income is lowest until you start receiving nothing (as some people are afraid now). People shouldn't invest cloud mining anymore. It was already prooved that it's not profitable for investors, just for the mining owner.

And Zcash, I'm not sure if it's really good... I saw some complains about it on a social media. People bought it expensive and instantly the price go down (really down!). Looks people lost money with that also.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: BitHodler on November 01, 2016, 04:47:03 PM
https://www.genesis-mining.com/ the only one i would trust. Zcash contracts could be profitable

promo discount code of 3 % on all Hashpower packages: N6inMQ

This genesis mining can be "legit", but they won't give you profit. Each new day the income is lowest until you start receiving nothing (as some people are afraid now). People shouldn't invest cloud mining anymore. It was already prooved that it's not profitable for investors, just for the mining owner.

And Zcash, I'm not sure if it's really good... I saw some complains about it on a social media. People bought it expensive and instantly the price go down (really down!). Looks people lost money with that also.
There are indeed mixed reactions on whether or not genesis-mining is legit, but I personally highly doubt they are able to keep their business up for a few more years.

It's of course up to the people if they want to put money into such service, but I will not take that risk. And certainly not when the chances of getting to a level where you ROI are barely there.

ZCASH is just a temporary thing that is getting a huge load of attention right now. Just look at what's left from its value after 2 or 3 months when the hype is slowly vanishing.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: lol3c on November 01, 2016, 06:22:01 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!
Most of cloud mining turn into a scam and steal all investors money because they are Ponzi Scheme. Well there are many example: Hashocean, hasheer, etc. However, there is still some legit cloud mining site which you may want to try: Genesis-minning, hashflare


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: keyscore44 on November 03, 2016, 01:31:01 PM
Hello, I would like to ask does anyone know a good cloud miner , because I have used one but just never got any profit , Please only say miners that you have used and gave you profit

Thank you for reading and have a Great Day!
Most of cloud mining turn into a scam and steal all investors money because they are Ponzi Scheme. Well there are many example: Hashocean, hasheer, etc. However, there is still some legit cloud mining site which you may want to try: Genesis-minning, hashflare

You forgot about most trusted service HashNest - for me is the best at the moment, because have market where in any moment you can sell your power and withdraw from minning. In genesis-mining and hashflare you have to buy time-contract, and no matter what happens you have to remain with them until the end of the contract.
Anyway, this is not the best time to invest in cloud mining.


Title: Re: Best Cloud Miner
Post by: imposter69 on November 03, 2016, 03:01:06 PM
look in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577124.0 many user said cloudminer not profitable anymore  :)