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Hello

I am happy (or not) the possessor of 0.03 btc (so what? We're not all rich) and I want to do the work quickly

I went to see on poloniex but the loan rate is too low to hope to multiply a small amount and I'm afraid of trading because I do not want to lose everything.

Also I looked at the mining sites but its no longer pertains.

If someone has advice or references I'm interested

Thank you

_talmidiel_

I will give you a couple of golden rules here and you should with them for the rest of your life.

1. 99% of Cloud mining websites are a scam , they don't even have an actual mining equipment even If they tell you otherwise.
2. Websites that promise to give you ROI (Return of investment) + profit back in x months are a scam as well. I mean they do start paying but they will end up taking all the funds of users. (Coince , HashOcean could both be an example for this).

Poloniex is probably your best choice right now , I would advice you to invest into ICN (ICONOMI Tokens and not iCoin) , the Token is not yet added to Poloniex as It was issued a few days ago but the price is low at the moment (you could buy it from Kracken) and sell it back once Poloniex or another major exchange adds it. Investing into Altcoins or ICO could be a great deal If you know what you are doing.

Ok ty i will test what you say

& what about hashnest ? i see most of people invest their money in it

This is a very small amount to invest.... You can trade some coins but is risky, like buy down ETH or XMR and sell high... Cloud mining is like our buddy said above, nothin' more. So, if you find something and it gives you (s)low return, don't think it's weird, because the less you invest less your return, but less are the risks.

It is a small amount to invest but stil you can earn something. Depends how much and how fast are you expecting to profit. With that amount you can invest in ETH or lending in Poloniex. I wouldn't suggest P2P lending sites. And the amount you earn, no matter how small, collect and invest further.

Dont trust HYIP,PONZI and mining, they will scam you, the best advice i can give to you is go trade but before that learn it first, or try gambling if you want to multiply that 0.03 of yours.

Goodluck.

Ty to all

I made shearch and i find 2 way :

1- trading on poloniex ( can earn big but not without risk )

2- a new p2p site who is offering some features :
   - a p2p loan with some interest but risky if you invest in a scam loan
   - a "bank" system who multiply you btc with an interest of 5%/years (0.013%/day) with daily payment (you can reinvest them in loan for exemple)
   - a little exchange system for buy/sell btc a good prices
It's btcpop.co
I have chat with somes people in this site who invest on loans here who recommend me to do that only if i am not scare to lost littles ammount of btc in loans

You can check the site here : http://www.btcpop.co/index

So... you want a low risk high yield investment?  In other words, impossible.
Either risk it trading (do a lot of prior research) or don't risk it and hold, or invest in things like poloniex lending.

The BOLD are so wrong totally the risk of trading are better than giving a loan, sometimes the lending are not wanna or be able for pay back your amount and you can lose all of your amounts, and however you wanna try for doing a trading? Seems like you're just depending with another people's statement.

All the methods you have used are worthless because cloud minings are not profitable or it takes ages to get your money back (the ROI) and you estimate that it doesn't worth. With that amount I would suggest to take a look at the top trading coins on poloniex and make a decision when to buy and when to sell.

Its a really big "NO"  for  cloudmining sites  because  they are  just total scam  on the end and  as you can see  all  of the replies  here regarding  to  cloudmining sites   are all the same  and  they also  not recommend  it and  stay far away as  possible. It would  really waste off   your  money. Dont afraid to risk  on  poloniex 0.03 isnt big enough  though you could   try small amount of  trading   if you  got  it right   that  amount of your  would surely grow, dont  be afraid to risk  , just learn  up  new things because  you wont gain anything if   you dont risk anything.

If you want to earn or multiply your bitcoin in quickly then do gambling if you don't have any choice and if you are in rush multiplying it but be careful when you are going to bet that all you could lose that easy too if you afraid on trading just try atleast your 0.01 bitcoin and then for experience only.

Nope it wasn't a good idea to suggest him to gamble since he might gonna lose his capital quickly for that game and gambling is not for those nervous guys, but if your an experience one will you can possibly do it, and my suggestion for him is just to trade an altcoin and so by that he can really earn and that is most decent way to earn rather than gambling suggestion.

Honestly trading is the only way to double or multiply your bitcoins for that amount and it takes a long time that you can make it double depends what altcoin you invest but trading is not easy it needs a lot of research.. investing in any ponzi sites or cloud mining is not good idea it can scam your your bitcoins for nothing .. better to go in safe way hold it and sell high  is more safe. we are seen the price right now is increase so just hold it and sell it if the price hit 700 value and buy bitcoins again if the price crash..

Yeah, sounds a bit contradictory indeed.
But trading on Poloniex after doing some research shouldn't be too risky in the sense that you probably wouldn't lose *everything*.

And you'd have a chance of doubling of tripling your investment, making a small profit or loss is more likely though.

This amount is not very big of you are looking for a decent return on your initial investment. I would recommend investing in a casino bankroll as they usually accept investments from 0.01 and you will get some return over a long time. I would recommend crypto-games and just-dice. Try them out for a week and see if it's enough.

I would suggest the same strategy and you can use some experimental observation in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.0 regarding the details of which among the casino houses gives bigger return.  I also agree that we can get a good profit from investing in casino houses.

I Would Like To Suggest You to Trade on Yobit.net Because it is Tested and Tried By Me But the Profitability Depends Upon Many things Like the Coins, On Your Stertagy Of Trading and Also On Your Knowledge and Experience About Trading......

Multiply your btc?How much do you want to make?

There is no quick way,unless gambling but i don`t recommend it.

So you want to "multiply" but you are afraid of trading?Wow,i don`t know how to help.

Learn and practice first,and then invest.

This is the typical "I want to earn tons of money but I've got infinite reasons not to do an actual work so please help me. :(" type of guy. When I started in bitcoin, I'm so happy when I reach 0.01BTC. You should be grateful for the fact that you're a newbie but you have 0.03BTC already.

Cloud mining sites never helped anyone and it never will. You're afraid to lose that money? There's no way of multiplying your BTC without risking that money. It appears to me that you want to do the work "quickly" and you want to multiply your money as well. All of that just falls under 'gambling'.

Thinking that way too but with that amount of investments I will going to push myself through to get some decent profit out of that. And if I am able to get some profit already from investing into casino bankroll, then the next step would be investing into trading of alt coins. Because I am inspired by a lot of trader who get decent profit.

Totally agree with you mate.. there's no easy way of multiplying your btc. Playing casinos? Yes you can but there's no guarantee that you can make investment to it.. unless if you're a good player or hit a one time big time jackpot. Try to invest in trading, it's a worth to invest your btc with.

I don't think that gambling is the only way to multiply your bitcoin.  Gambling is one of the way, it maybe the fastest if you are lucky enough and the most risky to grow your bitcoin.   But among the option you can grow your bitcoin, i won't recommend gambling because of the bigger chance of you lossing all your money than multiplying it.  People who want to multiply their bitcoin can search ways here in the forum, there are lots and not limited only to gambling.  |Sometimes, it is better to use search button than posting a topic that has been answered a thousand times.

You don't need for making an essay if you're less for reading the op's question, right? I'm not blaming you but the bold already was giving a bright for us right? totally multiplying their btc without a risk.

Yes, he says " he does not want to lose everything " which means he can afford to lose something which is quite a good statement there. If you are an investor or a trader you should expect the make profit most of the time but not all the time. At time you gain while sometime you may loose and you have to take that if you are to be successful.

First Of all I Clear You that  You Can't Make Anything Online If You have Fear Of Losing Your Money Because You Want to Do Business Online and Business Always Involves Risk of Funds Stolen Or Lost By Some Factors But Also In Business If You Bear the Risk You have Will Get Profit and Always Keep in Mind that "Higher the Risk, Higher the Profit".......
So You Never Earn Profit Without Taking Risks.....

trading is the best way to grow, it is difficult to grow if you refuse the best way.
all the way always has a risk of loss. I think you have to learn about trading if you want to be a lower risk. 
because I think you have two good choices between trading and gambling if you do not have large capital and want to grow fast. but all it should require skills/strategy in order to at least run better.

I did it and already multiply my bitcoin today through the trading of the hottest coins in this day, totally i can say it's more than safe for doing a trading and come on let's seen about the next chance for multiply our amount through trading. this is a real and not a scam method.

Trading is the best if you can, Don't casinos/gambling...

if you don't want to lose your bitcoin and want the most lowest risk then expecting a big and quick profit is really too good to be true,the loan rate in poloniex is fair enough for people like you who really don't want to lose anything,even its rate was too low

That is very bad advice. I did a little research on Iconomi and have seen that they are investing in a basket of different cryptocurrencies. Seeing how most of the altcoins are going down big right now, your advice should be to stay away from anything other than Bitcoin.

Talking about Poloniex, their site seems down today. I wonder why... ???

as OP say he's not going for trading due to its risk and he is really want a risk free investment to multiply his bitcoin,its really hard to find an investment that meet the requirement and more likely will never happen.

OP seems  dont  like  the risk  of   lossing   its bitcoin therefore  he would  not  seek  for investments because   on such  investment  it always do   involves risk  on lossing  your money  and  as we all know  that   we should  risk  something  to gain something . If you wont risk  then   you wont  gain nothing too,  better to keep  your  bitcoins at all  but   expect  that you would  not able  to grow your money.

He is wanting to multiply his BTCs. But without risk and investiment it's not possible to do it fast. There are many offers on the internet about double money, high rate income per hour...But it's all scammers options.

I think he could do nothing to multiply his BTCs, unfortunelly. Only investing on a business where he will work with it can bring better returns.

you should be happy to possess any bitcoin at all. because bitcoin has lots of potential and even if you just keep this amount you will be happy about holding it in a couple of years.


do that and you will lose all your money and then some more.


i don't like lending myself either. it is a too risky business for me to get into. but if you ant to lend you may have a better time doing it on the forum but you should know what valid collateral is and use an escrow.


then start small.
try to search and read what trading is, and learn some technical analysis that is always helpful.


don't even look at cloudmining sites, they are either scam already or a scam waiting to happen.

Avoid cloud mining sites, as when i was newbie i was scammed with them, turns out most of mining sites are very tricky, so whatever you will decide, be careful before invensting

When you have 0.03 btc is a small amount to invest in. If ever you
decide cloud mining possible you might get scamm then. I suggest
you try to trade an altcoins, just buy cheaper coins and hold it, in
the long run you can earn huge profit. But before that you search
the coins you were going trade in. Anyway, goodluck, hoping you
chose the right decision to invest in.

Well, we are in the trading section of the forum, so why even mention gambling.
Anyway, short comments like that don't help anyone.

Whatever, Is there any necessary to say the word trading only in the trading section. He just shared his view right, So no need to pull his leg. If we need multiply the bitcoins just hold in see after some years or do betting for instant profits, You may loose also god desires.

Other than cloud mining, the list to avoid when we are considering to multiply our bitcoins is really very big. But, I'm afraid we are having very little options to multiply our bitcoins.

Honestly I'm not trying to multiply my bitcoins after experienced many scams attempts. I just earn bitcoin and save them. My bitcoins are not working for me to grow themselves.

Lending is the best option compared to trading/mining and I agree we have very less investment opportunities with regards to bitcoins.

@OP: The fact that in trading the money goes NIL is wrong as you can still withraw your investment anytime and many lending sites too don't offer you a huge interest.

Most offer less than 2-3% which is enough if compared to the limited opportunities.

The fact is there is no way to multiply bitcoins if we are depending on others to let that happen as majority of them would be scammers and will disappear in future so the only way I can see to multiply them is through trading, it may bring loss for you but you will surely not get scammed in it.

Yeah. And besides, this is a trading discussion. There's no other safe way to multiply your bitcoin other than trading. Nothing should be afraid of when you researched well all about trading. In the first place, it isn't hard. At first you will find it hard on choosing what coin to trade, what price will you set. It is normal because you don't have idea on how's going on to the market. But, as you go along trading, your skills will come naturally and you can be a successful one. Don't forget that every investment, there is a risk of loosing bitcoin. But don't be afraid because you can get it back as you go along with trading.

I agree trading will not get you scammed but the trading platform might get you scammed.  There are several cases where trading platform shutting down with the reason of them being hacked.  Some people think that it is an excuse to run out of the deposited BTC and other alternative coins in thier platform. So if you are to do trading, better to withdraw the coins or Bitcoins you are not trading.

I guess this is will be useful for everyone, make your own schedule and you can be starting for write about the date of send back your amount on your offline wallet. I try this and really give me more guarantee for the security of my amount.

thats the proper practice making sure you have your own wallet to avoid this things to happen ensuring your alts or btc in a safe place and when you are ready again to trade just send it back the only problem with this is the transaction fee although if you already knew how to manage earnings and loses you can figure it out right away.

Why need to loan if there's an good strategy on how you gonna make your bitcoin multiply by your own idea's first thing is make sure that you know how to trade and you can just simply earn in faucet and then do gambling with small bets and after you earn you can do trading with cheaper coins and you can really made good profit by doing short trading.

It is quite frustrating if you repeatedly get scammed. But it is also frustrating if you do not learn your lessons after getting scammed. It seems investing does not work for you so I guess it is better for you to just hold your bitcoins. Maybe you can read and learn more about investing and trading, and maybe someday you can feel comfortable again to trade and invest.

I feel everyone who is dealing in crypto currencies should keep a good portion of their funds in bitcoin itself and then use some bitcoins to invest in altcoins such as ICONOMI, Synereo and other established alts. There are risks. But if you want to multiply your bitcoins, you will have to take risks and manage it well.

if you hold even the smallest amount of bitcoin you should be happy because you have an excellent investment which has gone up 250% in one year.


if you want to lend bitcoin you should do it here in lending board and always take a valid collateral.
and as for trading, don't be so afraid it is not as hard as you may think. but it is not a piece of cake either. start doing it with small amount and learn on the job.


in bitcoin, mining site these days means a Ponzi scheme which is a scam to take your money and run.

Why don't you try lending on this forum itself? People can easily earn 7-10% per week by lending their coins and even 0.03 BTC can earn you up to 0.003 BTC in one to two weeks which is good enough rather than storing your coins. Unfortunately, there are not many opportunities to explore.

Its really small amount for invest, but i guess you can invest that 0.03btc in gambling site and make some profit over longer time period. Almost every cloud mining site is ponzi scam, so stay away from it ;)