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Who is the best Bankroll among this sites and why?

Bitvest, betking, primedice, bitsler, bit-exo, luckyb.it and Crytogames or other Bankroll site.

I'm new here and looking for right information cause I want to invest my 0.5 BTC on it.

Primedice doesn't have any investment system, i would advise you to invest it in either betking or moneypot. betking and moneypot both have large traffic and there're old sites, so stick with them.

Crypto-Games.net current investments by coins:

BitCoin 979.59 BTC
DogeCoin 80,287,798.14 DOGE
LiteCoin 3,156.72 LTC
GridCoin 430,932.34 GRC
Ethereum 10,155.55 ETH
Dash 708.25 DASH
PeerCoin 3,890.73 PPC
Monero 935.23 XMR

Total of 1,193.26 BTC

BetKing seems to have shown biggest returns. Bitvestb,bitdice and moneypoy would also be great options. There might be other options but those are what I'd choose.

My second week with Betking, nothing but loss. Where s that big return? Still waiting for it.

Bitvest will be a good choice to invest, you can divest your investment anytime, no period limitation is the best point. And you can set a risk margin of 0.25 to 5 with your investment

Bad timing if you have a loss. You can see on dicesites.com that BetKing has made more profit than all other investment sites.

You can see another users experience investing in 5 different casinos over the past 3 months here

https://i.imgur.com/Ws3i7te.jpg

Not trying to diminish your result in any way, I m just sharing my experience so far. I have invested more then the person from the table and have been in almost constant loss until now. I hope things will pick up by the end of the first month and I ll gladly come back and report that.

Most of the sites on that list do not accept investments. However 0.5 BTC as compared to the best sites bankroll isn't a lot, hence the higher bankroll site you would go for would likely not get you a good ROI.

Bitdice is another famous one not listed on there.

What do you mean by "best bankroll"? I assume you mean largest bankroll? BetKing.io has the largest bankroll out of publicly funded sites, though PrimeDice probably has a larger one, as they are probably one of the oldest sites still running.

BetKing: 6,377 BTC
SatoshiDice: 3,447 BTC
BitDice: 2,125 BTC
MoneyPot: 773 BTC
BitVest: 203 BTC
SafeDice: 177 BTC

If you mean the best investment, Crypto-Games probably has the least variance, while SafeDice has a much higher variance compared to the others, giving a higher risk with a higher reward. There is no certain best site to invest in. I'm currently invested in BitVest, BetKing and Crypto-Games (0.15BTC each) as those were the ones I deemed most likely to make a profit for me.

In my opinion according to others  feedback and reviews betking is the best for investment and yeah like other said betking is a largest bankroll.. so
If you want to choose the best betking is the best to choose.
Some already made a proof posted a thread already here like posted image above..

2 weeks is nothing. Investing in bankroll, especially with low house edge games, is for the patient ones. Betking still performs above the expectation, with profit/EV of 179.5%.

@OP - useful link: https://dicesites.com most major dice-sites are listed there with stats. Note that not all the casinos would disclose their bankroll and performance to the public.

I would invest my money in moneypot if I was you. Like some else said in this thread, investing in a lower bankroll allows you to profit more during the swings. It can also mean you could lose more, but in the long run ofcourse you would be in the winning side.

As long as you diversify your investments on these casinos bankroll, then your loss will be quite less because some of them will surely make a decent profit. But if you have invested the only couple of weeks back then no need to worry much surely it will pick up. But it is better to keep some target for the losses, if you reach that target then take out your money and put in some other site. Good luck to you..

Have you seen that post with table, showing bankroll investment comparison, which BetKing posted in this thread?
If you study it, you will see that MoneyPot investors recently suffered loses (same with SatoshiDice).
Currently the best option for investing is BetKing, CryptoGames and SafeDice.

Very true, however OP, if MoneyPot bankroll's starts to climb back up, I'd advise in investing in them as they've been around for a long time and are trustworthy.

Most of the trustworthy sites to invest in have already been listed, but you can also check out Just-Dice.com. They don't accept bitcoin investments, but if you are willing to trade your bitcoins into CLAM, they might be worth a shot.

from your list, only bitvest, betking ang crypto-games accepts investment though you can invest in moneypot for bit-exo since they are covering the bankroll

primedice, bitsler and luckyb.it is not accepting any investments

thats big number...I will consider this site thanks for sharing

it is gambling and investing in it is also risky.
but that table is a very interesting and informative one you can find the topic on the discussion board. and if i recall correctly that big profit is because of one high roller guy who lost a ridiculously huge amount in a very short time (i think it was a couple of days).

Are you willing to put all your stated amount in your chosen gambling site? Please remember that profit there is not as noticeable as you think even the house always wins and you have a decent capital as a start. If there is a such then you should saw majority of people here posting about some decent profit out of investing in a gambling sites bankroll.

Also take caution that you don't have authority on your coins there so a chance of fraud may happen anytime and it's possible even in 1 out 10.

For me the site with the best bankroll is crypto-games.net even though they have a low house edge compared to most dice sites I have been getting some nice steady returns after 1month invested there. Splitting your coins when investing might be the best way to determine which one is the best for you.

Based on the answer everyone gave we got closer to conclude who is the best site to Invest.

3 sites are left on my mind to invest my money. there are

CryptoGames
Moneypot
Betking

from there 3 who you will chose?

Yeah I know about the risk that is why I'm here in Gambling section. Also thanks for the info but you didn't explain why I you choose MoneyPot?

actually i would advise against investing in moneypot because their return has been terrible in the past. i used to think it is a better place to invest in because of how big it is and how many different games are using it but seeing the actual results says it is not a good place to invest in.

also check out this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.0

I'd say that Betking would be your best bet. They have been proven to be the best profiting casino over a timeframe of 3 months I think. You can get this info online.

Bitsler doesn't even offer an investment function, i don't think.

Based on this link Betking really gives you bigger return then I'll give betking 1 point.


CryptoGames = 0
Betkingg = 1
MoneyPot = 0

I will you points system so we can conclude it faster. I give point for reply with great explanation

.5BTC is not big amount.
To try invest to exchange.. i think profit will be higher than invest gambling.

What do you mean by exchange? can you be more specific?

Because betking is having 6,377 bitcoins in their bankroll your share will be only 0,00784%, means you'll have tiny profits.
share at cryptogames.net (979 bitcoin bankroll) will be 0,051%, share at moneypot (738 bitcoin bankroll) will be 0,0677%.
Since moneypot is not profitable for a long time, i wouldn't invest there, leaving you a chance between cryptogames and betking. Cryptogames is having lower house edge on dice than betking, but is having higher on other games and giving you higher percentage in bankroll.
It's also explained in this post: http://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/bitcoin-gambling-investments-212/
Based on that i would choose cryptogames

I mean about crypto exchange currency.. buy and sell crypto currency.
I read that is profitable..

not sure what is the best since there are many factors to consider , but the sure thing is that all of them are profitable to invest in
I'm mainly invested in one site , but I'm really considering splitting my investment equally on Bitvest , Betking and Cryptogames
so maybe you should do the same if you afford that 0.5 BTC

You can invest in cryptogames because of all the options that you select only cryptogames which receives investment but 0.5 btc isn't big enough for invest in casino you need more for get big earning.

Honestly the only one that I would invest in is Moneypot. WIth the rest there is just way too much risk and being completely cleaned out or simply you won't make a decent percentage. In those cases you are better off just loaning your BTC at a exchange because you are paid more in interest and its much more secure.

But moneypot recent performance is very bad for investors so there is no meaning still going with them until they fix the issues and show that they are taken care of investors. It is not like one or two months but last few months all investors lost quite a lot of money so it is better to avoid moneypot for now for bankroll investment purpose.

Betking has a lot of whale followers, which means that they may actually have more volume and thus more profits over time than cryptogames. They don't really have many whales. Lots of botters though.

If any gambling site has many whale followers, then investors got a chance to make a more profits quickly and at the same time investor can lose their investments quickly as well if anyone wins a significant amount. But as we all know that at the end gambling house will win if gambler continues playing, so investor got a better chance to make a profit from these investments.

Yeah huge whale means that your site will have more chance to lose or to get profit though. That is why you really need huge bankroll. But if you compare betking to cryptodice, they cant be compare though because with huge bankroll sure you want good profit but with high risk too but with small bankroll, it will be less profit for sure but the risk wont be high. So actually both of their site is the same though

If you want to make a profit from gambling bankroll investment, then one has to consider to invest in high traffic trusted sites, and if the site got many high-value betters then it is an excellent opportunity to make a good profit from our investments. No wonder last two months betking has given a very good profit to their investors.

I think primedice is really the best, because there pay well but you have to first start with their faucet claiming so that you will learn how the website works.

This will take time as you going to wait for bitcoin value to go down to buy and go up to sell, I'm doing it also by now and yes its profitable but takes time.

You need to show some proof that Moneypot is the best place to invest as of now lot said Moneypot got a bad income.

I'm asking for Bankroll to invest not place to gamble.

Yap, moneypot investors were in lost in the last few days. Some people won so huge amount of btc that force them to decrease their max winning amount. For me, I think decreasing the max winning amount will affect their investors. It may take longer time for the imvestors to get some profit to recover their lose in the last few days.
Better to invest on betking than moneypot imho.

Now you reversing your answer from moneypot to betking because they lost in last few weeks.

I am not saying that Moneypot is the highets paying bankroll site however they are the only trusted one that I would use. But yes even a big site like Moneypot can lead to loses. Its all a gamble anyway.

BitDice and Betking are definitely trusted too. I'd probably even trust those more than moneypot in my opinion. Just my personal view though.

Nope, in the OP you're asking who has the biggest bankroll and you mention primedice yourself.

If you're looking for the best place to invest, you should be looking for the best daily wager/bankroll ratio (+adjust for house edge), that will show you where you can get the best return for money invested.

i.e. if you have 2 sites, both equally trusted, both with same level of activity (amounts wagered), then the more attractive for you is the site with lower bankroll, as your share in profits is higher.

if you are not going to gambling then better and more better to invest at these sites .
i will suggest bitvest.io since i have not made but of my friends recommend me from some moths but still i know the better of them moneypot ( which is not listed here in your post )

How you can say Moneypot is better? Can you some proof why you said that thing?

From the list above, I can say that betking has the good amounts of investment and they are trusted too. For primedice and bitsler, both of them has no investment option so you cant put your money on primedice nor bitsler as an investment. I dont familiar with the other sites, so I cant say anything about those sites.

It definitely isn't better by looking at coingamblingreview's update on his investments (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.msg16567105#msg16567105)  they got higher house edge than crypto-games but the returns aren't going so well. I can only say just don't invest on moneypot during this time since the investors are getting beat up pretty bad.

Yeah indeed, but if you can know which coin that will pump, I think this is great choice. But do you dare to take the risk? This is the problem man, not all coin will be pumped and sometimes it will stay for really long period then it will be pumped. I dont really know how some of them even can get 7 btc from exchange altcoin

There are so many variables that it's pretty much impossible to give a general answer for 'best bankroll to invest in'.

Sites have different track records and amounts of experience.

Sites have higher or lower variance than others.

Sites have higher volume than others.

Sites have more bets (much different than volume) than others.

Sites have different fees.

Sites have different security procedures.

Sites have different amounts of bankroll which means that your 'slice of the pie' will differentiate.

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Find out what is most important to you (ie: If you are looking for a conservative or aggressive investment style) and invest accordingly.

...What you should not be doing is judging the best bankroll to put your bitcoin into by its previous results. 

This is hot question, which casino is the best for investing in their bankroll.
I tried to invest in betking, but after couple weeks I was down for 6 %, and after that I stopped.
It's not just about site, sometimes people won in casino and then investors lose, you need to have that on mind. Since then I invest in myself and my luck, for investing in casino I will wait when I have couple bitcoins, anything less then that is just waste of time.

The thing is you need to invest when the site is having a bad period and percentage. So if you invest when everybody is down 5%, and then it goes to break even, you end up pocketing the difference.

https://monerodice.net is easy to invest. I have few Moneros there for over an year and got soem profit of it. What si best is that Monero raise nicely toward Bitcoin and even in spring 2017 with upcoming CT ring and full anonymity price should increase even more.

Not to mention that your investment is also anonymous. :D

Never heard that site.. but if you can provide a proof that you are making good profit maybe it is good to invest there since you already said that you are making profit there..
I heard that betking is the best to choose to invest because many reviews by others that they are making high profit in betking..

Not sure what kind of proof you ant. i remember few weeks ago i posted what was the profit let me check my old posts.  It was 4.5% of my investment. With recent increase of monero price and with that people pull XMR out to sell, bankroll decreased, so i expect higher profits.

Primedice.com or Betking.io. Primedice never showed their bankroll but i think they have bigger bankroll than any other site.If you see the stats on dicesites.com most bitcoin wagered on primedice and i just saw their chat 2k+ online.So it's should be easy to think they got a big bankroll.Betking proved/Showed their bankroll in public.

The 2k online users in chat is either a bug or fake as pointed out in their thread.

I don't know if they actually have a bigger bankroll than BetKing. They very well could but I doubt Stunna would keep all his Bitcoin in the PrimeDice bankroll. When hufflepuff stole 2000 Bitcoin off them Stunna spoke of closing the site IIRC and ended up lowering the max payout per bet.

PrimeDice bankroll is certainly big enough though. The BetKing might even be too big.

Betking, I think, you can win max 300 btc per bet there, and you can invest there too

Yeah, currently it seems to be possible to win over 250 BTC in a single bet. It used to be more but they lowered the kelly a couple of times.

There's no way any bitcoin business has an average of ~2,000 active users online at the same time. 200 would be a great result.

If I had to speculate, I'd say PD doesn't hold more than 3,000 btc in bankroll, that's assuming max profit of 30btc is set at conservative 1% of BR, there's simply no need of holding more. Not that it matters though, any amount above users' total balance is Stunna's private funds, he could have 10k one day and withdraw half next day and this wouldn't make any difference.

Even if PrimeDice has a huge bankroll, they don't allow investments, so OP won't be able to invest in them. OP was asking for sites with a big bankroll to invest in.

Sometimes sites with a big bankroll aren't always the best to invest in if you have a smaller amount to invest. Make a call, and see which one fits the best.

i gave the link so you go through all the topic not only the last page and the last result. yes betking is showing a good return in the last week but here is how all of them have been doing through all the time (i found the first couple of images and put it here find the rest of them on the topic):
https://i.imgur.com/tG4zLcH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oYr2K4k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZkU8rsk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Bs3nTv1.jpg

if you read you see that the reason here is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910134.msg16105050#msg16105050

https://i.imgur.com/JRWB36r.jpg

see the rest on that topic.

Yeah indeed, I agree of what you saying but with big bankroll you are more to get less profit but with a low risk. But if you place your investment on lower bankroll you will have chance to get more money but the chance to lose is higher too

That's why we can call it 50-50 situation since we cannot assure to get profits from it eventhough we put up some huge capital unto it nor giving such good efforts, and i think the bigger the bankroll of a site the smaller the profit we can GEt really but atleast we can make sure that we are on good hands and might get high percentage to earn profits with them unlike those low bankroll site wich is unnusual to us, betking.io and directbet is my recomendation for this thoughs.

Not necessarily true. The risk is not only tied to the size of bankroll, but also to 'max profit' settings, which vary from 0.5% (of bankroll) to almost 10% between sites (and to house edge as well).

And that's a bit strange logic you presented. If you're concerned about risk, just keep your bitcoins in your wallet, but if you find investing in bankroll attractive and want to do it, then you should always choose site that gives you potentially best return. What's the point of trusting someone with your bitcoins if you can only realistically earn literally few satoshis.

I just wondering did you refresh your balance to 1 btc after each weeks? Because I saw your result it always start from 1 btc although you already have negative. So although you are get around 9% for 5 weeks I think that is not pure 9% if you keep on refreshing your balance and start with 1 btc each week

Those investments were made by coingamblingreviews, not Herbert2020, link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.0

And the results are combined, total after x weeks. So, i.e. 'return week 3' is the total return for the period of 3 weeks, not just for 1 week.

Yes, it is combined profits and losses and 1 BTC is the initial investment.

Here is the last three months results for those few sites from the same thread.

https://i.imgur.com/dKDImQ3.jpg[/quote]

Moneypot and santoshi dice didn't give any profit after three months, so they are discontinued. You can monitor that thread to keep an eye on those trusted site performance to decide your investment plan.

if you checked that topic you could have seen that it is not mine i am just quoting a useful topic here.

and to answer your question, no he doesn't refresh it each week. the 1BTC was the initial investment in the first week in each of these 5 places and then he is reporting the result each week so in other words what you see in the last picture is the accumulated (total) loss+profit

Ha, why you site gets so high reward? Is there any magic there? Or the bets are much higher than other sites?

Betking is most trusted and best casino to invest there. I have active investment there and it growing so nice there. Betking have huge bankroll so that it provide nice opportunity to make profit if we are looking for trusted and legit casino for investment.

But they also provided a huge amount winning options for gamblers, so it is a good option for whales. They can come with a big bankroll and can earn big money as well. Where you got a high chance of making lot of profit there you also can lose lot of money. So it good to diversify your money to reduce your investment risks.

There is no magic behind it. But I wonder what causes this huge disproportion of profits gained from different casino investments?
I mean, 40% profit on BetKing vs. loss on MoneyPot? It would mean that MoneyPot based services are the most profitable casinos.
Maybe it is better to play there instead and forget about investing?

I don't think everyone can win from those games because whoever won money from those apps may be played with huge bankrolls, and also they should know some lope holes in the system and that's making a profit from those games. If you and I play, then we may lose our money.