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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Zenzolina on October 31, 2016, 10:35:56 PM



Title: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Zenzolina on October 31, 2016, 10:35:56 PM
Now. My idea was to start off with few games i feel should be most important and i see most often in bitcoin casinos. Roulette, Blackjack, Dice and Wheel of fortune. Roulette is still under development, hopefully i will finish it soon while i already have other games ready.

Of course games offer will expand to slots and hopefully one day multiplayer poker.

Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

For example i usually hate bonuses (except in bookmakers where i use them for arbitrage lol) but i like loyalty rewards.

Feel free to throw any suggestion or even business proposal :)



Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: ralle14 on November 01, 2016, 07:58:47 AM

Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

I would play in your casino if you guys have like instant deposits people don't usually like waiting for confirmations now that the average waiting time has gone up this past week. Adding cashback in your casino is good I sometimes play on other casinos on a specific day just to be eligible on their cashback offer. I suggest adding a chatbox in your casino would be nice.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: trafficolaa on November 01, 2016, 08:45:23 AM
Is sportsbook is on your plan to add there with live betting option, rest of the games are looking nice and most of the people like to play dice game, but slots with progressive jackpot would be good one to add it there, instant withdrawal and attractive promotion will be nice to launch any casino.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: puremage111 on November 01, 2016, 08:49:16 AM
Generally tbh, as long as a site is not rigged and when user win and they paid, i am willing to lose to the casino as the edge is fair.

Therefore i would say perhaps if you wanted to start a BTC Casino, try your best to make sure your site is really having a good reputation

Your site can have not more than 10 player but you should have a clean reputation for that.

Ever look at Bitstars?

That site looks great but the accusation on scams towards BitStarts is totally disaster

Learning on how to handle all these might be important as i can see most people who started to accuse scams are usually people who are new accounts

Finally, what attracts me to a casino

Slots bonus spin on deposit with NO WAGERING would be the best :P


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: chaser15 on November 01, 2016, 09:02:53 AM
Now. My idea was to start off with few games i feel should be most important and i see most often in bitcoin casinos. Roulette, Blackjack, Dice and Wheel of fortune. Roulette is still under development, hopefully i will finish it soon while i already have other games ready.

Of course games offer will expand to slots and hopefully one day multiplayer poker.

Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

For example i usually hate bonuses (except in bookmakers where i use them for arbitrage lol) but i like loyalty rewards.

Feel free to throw any suggestion or even business proposal :)



Unique rates of loyalty rewards, meaning worth to play in your casino even for a long term gambling. Also it would be nice if your gambling site will not require a decent requirements for your games to run smoothly, yes a light one and no much deeper designs.

And in a casino, one thing you must an auto bot which is likely and obviously I think you are into it now. And a nice welcome bonus with only low minimum waiger requirement to prevent abuse.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: hasiramasenju on November 01, 2016, 09:17:51 AM
instant withdrawal, deposit bonus or something else i think every casinos has already have it but regarding which game the most popular in my opinion besides dice game sportbook also one of the most popular game in this forum as you could see now there are several tipster thread which predict the particular match from european league and most of us always talking and predict sport match everyday so i wish in your gambling site will putting sportbook as new game


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: bithasher on November 01, 2016, 09:19:48 AM
All your under developed games are casino related so you need to work a lot to gain the trust of the players and also dra wtheir attention towards your site to give the games a try at least. You can not drive fresh players to a casino related site without offering them any type of risk free bonus or credit. You should be aware of the hard competition. A well designed site with uder friendly interface will make its place with some efforts in my opinion.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Betwrong on November 01, 2016, 09:41:29 AM
Now. My idea was to start off with few games i feel should be most important and i see most often in bitcoin casinos. Roulette, Blackjack, Dice and Wheel of fortune. Roulette is still under development, hopefully i will finish it soon while i already have other games ready.

Of course games offer will expand to slots and hopefully one day multiplayer poker.

Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

For example i usually hate bonuses (except in bookmakers where i use them for arbitrage lol) but i like loyalty rewards.

Feel free to throw any suggestion or even business proposal :)



People tend to avoid not provably fair games nowadays so it goes without saying that games on your site should be provably fair if you want someone to play there.

I personally think that a good strategy when opening an online gambling site is providing it with a faucet which is bigger than on other sites. Doing so you will definitely attract many people to your site, but of course you wll lose some money at first. Then, when you think that you already have enough daily visitors you can reduce the amount which can be claimed. This is not my invention btw, I've seen some prosperous gambling sites were starting that way.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: harizen on November 01, 2016, 10:00:05 AM

Feel free to throw any suggestion or even business proposal :)



No doubt, the most effective way to gather players from a new gambling site is the interesting welcome bonuses and free deposits. Now the concern now is how they will stay again after losing those welcome bonuses or free deposits?

A reward or bonus tier depending on their deposits bets can consider.

Example:

A gambler will deposit BTC0.1 = 5 points. That points means they can do a free bet for 5 tries or 5 free turns in terms of roulettes and slots or something idea like that. On how much amount a gambler will bet for that free tries will now be studied by the gambling sites staff to make it fair to both owners and gamblers.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: NewBet on November 01, 2016, 11:38:22 AM
Well if you want to stand out from all other bitcoin casino, I would advice you to do probably fair casino. I played a lot “unfair" casino and they always find a way to make you lose for most of the time,  had to be extremely lucky to beat the house. The revenue might come slowly for you but once you establish your popularity, that will not be a problem.
Be honest, be simple, be transparent, pay in time and don't try to scam. Wouldn't take for long to overtake the giant IMO.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: clickerz on November 01, 2016, 12:02:29 PM
Well if you want to stand out from all other bitcoin casino, I would advice you to do probably fair casino. I played a lot “unfair" casino and they always find a way to make you lose for most of the time,  had to be extremely lucky to beat the house. The revenue might come slowly for you but once you establish your popularity, that will not be a problem.
Be honest, be simple, be transparent, pay in time and don't try to scam. Wouldn't take for long to overtake the giant IMO.

"Do not try to scam." and I do agree, a player must have a good first impression with the sites. Good graphics, and easy to use interfaces.Give some tokens to first timers to try and evaluate,let them review your site :)


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Falconer on November 01, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
Bonuses and great promotions are the most effective ways to attract people to join a new online casino. The point is, you really need to spend more to gain more attention.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: philiveyjr on November 01, 2016, 03:46:15 PM
I personally feel the current gambling market is too saturated. If you want to open up a new site then consider doing it with a brand new game. Like recently there was an air bubble which I haven't seen around but it was innovative and new. Similarly moneypot was a new idea as well and did good.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: lumeire on November 01, 2016, 04:04:10 PM
A signup bonus would be a good way to start.  ;D

Or bonuses for beta players.  ;D


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: roadbits on November 01, 2016, 05:22:46 PM
I personally feel the current gambling market is too saturated. If you want to open up a new site then consider doing it with a brand new game. Like recently there was an air bubble which I haven't seen around but it was innovative and new. Similarly moneypot was a new idea as well and did good.
Yes the signup bonus and deposit bonus and another type of promotions are common so try with new things. What you said this is good come up with new games. The games should be very attractive, and the games should be very easy to play. Then only people will addict to your site. With this games you provide remaining promotions then I am sure your site will become famous within few days.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: SyGambler on November 01, 2016, 05:37:10 PM
I haven't played in a normal new site since ages , cause the market is full of good options these days
so in order to get customers you should offer better things than other sites like lower house edge , new games , better VIP program .. etc
sometimes the design attract the players , but I care more about the things that I have mentioned 


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Zenzolina on November 01, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Thank you all for suggestions, keep posting them.

I will keep house edge as low as possible (1% for start, less after if it will be possible).

There is a possibility to put higher transaction fee in order to get your deposit confirmed faster, i dont know how otherwise i can influence on faster deposits as i do not plan to accept them without at least 1 confirmation.

Cashouts will be instant.

I was thinking about, lets say first 1000 users gets 1mbtc no deposit bonus without wagering req?


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on November 01, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
I personally like roulette, blackjack and slot games and important things every players like to get from bitcoin casino these days are ;
- probably fair games
- transparency of results
- responsive and fast paltform
- instant deposit (0 confirmation) but obviously confirmation required to withdraw (instant withdraw).
- and very good online and offline support team

on starting days you may need good promotion of your platform in this forum via signature campaigns, banner advertisements etc.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Zenzolina on November 01, 2016, 06:06:40 PM
I personally like roulette, blackjack and slot games and important things every players like to get from bitcoin casino these days are ;
- probably fair games
- transparency of results
- responsive and fast paltform
- instant deposit (0 confirmation) but obviously confirmation required to withdraw (instant withdraw).
- and very good online and offline support team

on starting days you may need good promotion of your platform in this forum via signature campaigns, banner advertisements etc.


I was just about to ask that. Do signature campaigns have any results at all? I mean im here mostly every day to check new, interesting posts but never clicked any signature or banner


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: crairezx20 on November 01, 2016, 06:11:15 PM
Well for me just like other said provably fair is one of needed security and different bonuses or high bonus to play in your site..
Also there is an affect the speed of your site and good design.
And i think better to try to add a unique game like color games or Tongits you can find this game in facebook if you play it its a card game base skill game and many people will play from our country if you have this game.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: xuan87 on November 01, 2016, 11:49:30 PM
The most important things in casino is the provably fair and the customer support also fast deposit and withdrawal, these are the most important basic that every good casino have, for the game try a various game, game that is unique that most of casino don't have, for example Jackpotracer got sicbo, betcoin.tm got paigo, and for new casino you need a lot of advertisement give a lot giveaway so gambler aware of your site


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Falconer on November 02, 2016, 07:13:16 AM
And one more thing, if you want to start a sportsbook site, make sure that you have high odds (and make sense surely :D) in every match. High odds is one of few things that could attract people to bet on your site.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Zenzolina on November 02, 2016, 10:54:47 AM
Well regarding sportsbook im not sure yet. I dont wanna rush into buying ready-made script as i feel i will have extremly hard time fixing all the bugs. But over time there is a possibility that i will hire someone to create it from scratch. Basically it all depends on casino sucess, i mean there is no point in creating lets say multiplayer poker if you have only 10 active players.

Regarding bonuses, i will offer plenty of them for new players and also for VIP players. About wagering requirments im not sure yet but they will sure not be too high


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Red-Apple on November 02, 2016, 11:32:53 AM
Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

this is good that you are asking this question before jumping in.

in my opinion there are two things that are of main importance and those are provably fair and security the first one is for us to trust the site and security is so that we can be sure that if we deposit the site is safe enough to keep the deposit safe.

after that in order to attract new people's attention you need to advertise. and these advertisement can be banners, signature campaigns and also giveaways and prizes you give for free.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: milewilda on November 02, 2016, 12:55:34 PM
Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

this is good that you are asking this question before jumping in.

in my opinion there are two things that are of main importance and those are provably fair and security the first one is for us to trust the site and security is so that we can be sure that if we deposit the site is safe enough to keep the deposit safe.

after that in order to attract new people's attention you need to advertise. and these advertisement can be banners, signature campaigns and also giveaways and prizes you give for free.

People would  surely find  these  main important things   of searching a  good   gambling site  which they  could   assure  that  the site uses provably fair system and   its security same as  you mentioned and  you are perfectly right. The  differences  would   matter  on the   giveaways and  promos that are given  to the potential players  on your site. The better the giveaway  the more potential  players would be. It really depends  on the marketing   of a gambling site.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Falconer on November 05, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
Well regarding sportsbook im not sure yet. I dont wanna rush into buying ready-made script as i feel i will have extremly hard time fixing all the bugs. But over time there is a possibility that i will hire someone to create it from scratch. Basically it all depends on casino sucess, i mean there is no point in creating lets say multiplayer poker if you have only 10 active players.

Regarding bonuses, i will offer plenty of them for new players and also for VIP players. About wagering requirments im not sure yet but they will sure not be too high
Yeah I see that, you also really need to hire a good moderator imo, which he must be a well known person in some forum especially in gambling board, so I guess he will attract some people to join your site. You should keep it mind, that starting a business like online casino is a risky investment, so your choices are only all or nothing. Well good luck for your project man!


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Zenzolina on November 06, 2016, 05:03:41 PM
Ty mate. All of you guys helped alot with suggestions :) keep them coming


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: ajaxmoor on November 06, 2016, 05:46:37 PM
Well regarding sportsbook im not sure yet. I dont wanna rush into buying ready-made script as i feel i will have extremly hard time fixing all the bugs. But over time there is a possibility that i will hire someone to create it from scratch. Basically it all depends on casino sucess, i mean there is no point in creating lets say multiplayer poker if you have only 10 active players.

Regarding bonuses, i will offer plenty of them for new players and also for VIP players. About wagering requirments im not sure yet but they will sure not be too high

Another note on that, I find that people tend to play more on freshly developed sites and not on ready made scripts, as it takes away the element of trust. I personally never play on sites made by using scripts, but others might have a different take on this.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: SparkedDev on November 06, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
Id stay away from instant deps, it can be pretty dangerous for a casino owner.
1-2 confirms is good enough.
Min 20k sat fee on withdraw for decently fast with draws.
Sig campaign don't pay on games and rounds section they will drain you really quickly.
Faucet normally a good idea.

Did you plan on public investment?


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: ajaxmoor on November 06, 2016, 11:06:33 PM
Id stay away from instant deps, it can be pretty dangerous for a casino owner.
1-2 confirms is good enough.
Min 20k sat fee on withdraw for decently fast with draws.
Sig campaign don't pay on games and rounds section they will drain you really quickly.
Faucet normally a good idea.

Did you plan on public investment?
Not really. Instant deposits are not a problem as long as they are not doing withdrawals before confirmations. Nitrogensports for example allows instant deposits except for use on poker because that is not against the house. But they only allow withdrawals after 1-2 confirmations.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: SparkedDev on November 06, 2016, 11:11:35 PM
If you don't want to get complaints on not paying out id stay away from instant.
Also only gold 2-5% of holding in the hot wallet, everything else to cold on their confirmation.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: Zenzolina on November 07, 2016, 12:15:07 AM
Id stay away from instant deps, it can be pretty dangerous for a casino owner.
1-2 confirms is good enough.
Min 20k sat fee on withdraw for decently fast with draws.
Sig campaign don't pay on games and rounds section they will drain you really quickly.
Faucet normally a good idea.

Did you plan on public investment?

There will be faucet thats always good idea.

Regarding public investment im not sure yet. I was thinking about it but im not sure how many casino visitors are actually interested in investing instead of gambling? I should probably open a pool about that.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 07, 2016, 03:20:48 AM
i want to come into your site and play with the games if there is cashback, welcome bonuses, provably fair games and maybe the other thing is we can make investment but don't make it too high because not all player have big bitcoin, maybe its about less than 1 btc so every one can make investment in your site.


Title: Re: Starting BTC Casino (open for suggestions & proposals)
Post by: ikydesu on November 07, 2016, 06:46:27 AM
Now. My idea was to start off with few games i feel should be most important and i see most often in bitcoin casinos. Roulette, Blackjack, Dice and Wheel of fortune. Roulette is still under development, hopefully i will finish it soon while i already have other games ready.

Of course games offer will expand to slots and hopefully one day multiplayer poker.

Now my question is: Why would you come to play in my casino rather than in some other? Is that cashback, welcome bonuses, loyalty rewards, provably fair games or anything else just name it here.

For example i usually hate bonuses (except in bookmakers where i use them for arbitrage lol) but i like loyalty rewards.

Feel free to throw any suggestion or even business proposal :)



Provably fair is the most important thing must be always implement to gambling site, people will not register or even click on your site when there's no provably fair.

Loyalty reward maybe the best thing to implement, its can be a push your member to always play to your site. i think the loyalty reward should be like this: people who played over "x" months can be earn loyalty reward, the loyalty reward can be give to loyal member every "x" weeks/ "x" months while the member still play, if the member not play anymore for example "x" weeks, the reward will be stoped.