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We all know here in digital world we used altcoins for trading but do we consider that the trading is same as the stockmarket in our real world? Because we can consider that the buying of altcoins using bitcoin is like buying of shares in stock market.

Stock market, As far as I know the stock market is based on the demand of supply in that certain product. So let's connect it to the trading Is the trading is based on the demand and supply or It is based on the Admin who created that altcoin?

And is the trading is a passive income like stock market or no? Because in my experience in trading there are many sh*t coin who just suddenly fell to 1sats each and some are pumping so high. So Is the trading can we consider as a stock market?

Yes i agree with you, altcoins is like stock but moving price of altcoins are not like stock in my experience when trading altcoins, and moving price that same with stocks is bitcoin's price, at least we can use analysis tecnical for making prediction bitcoin's price is like use analysis tecnical on trading stocks and not trading altcoins. But it is just my experience when trading altcoins and bitcoins.

You are trading in the stock market, but trading and stock market per se are not the same thing. The type of activity you engage in in the stock market is called trading...

Stocks are liking climbing a hill and then falling off a cliff.
Altcoins rise like a phoenix, then glide like an eagle.

Its totally the same and their difference is the word crypto and stocks but we are doing the same thing upon buying and selling, and also i believe that both traders are doing the same monitoring and waiting the right time to buy and sell,

In addition as i've seen on stock tradings well i can really say that crypto tradings are quitely good source for earnings since the crypto coins flactuates faster rather than stocks that needs economy of the country to rise up before their stocks will up.

Yes Bro I Think that Trading Can be Considered as Stock Market Because In Stock Market We Trade Shares Of Companies and Have Risk Of Losing Money Or We Can Also Make Some big Money and Also in Trading We Buy Different Altcoins and And Trading Altcoins have Also Big Risks But We Can Also Make Some Big Money Here Because Profit Will Be Increased if the Risk Increases......

actually both of them are the not same but indirectly joined with each other.
actually when many numbers of personsake buy of coin than this is results into less no. of coin and more number demands that leads into the increase of price of altcoin like tge stock in the market and its demand

Whilst trading is essentially the same thing (although crypto-exchanges are really in the infancy compared to traditional financial market equivalents), the market environment is not the same.
Crypto market caps are low so can easily be pumped. There is a constant background of market dumping from profit switching pools. Pumps can occur to keep the volume up to prevent a coin from being delisted.

The main difference between stock and crypto trading is the fact that you can't manipulate the price of stocks as easily as that of crypto.

Are you familiar on stock market? If you really know it. You will notice that it is just the same. Ofcourse exemption to rule all shitcoins. Stock market is easy too manipulate if you hold the majority of the stocks just like on cryptos, if you invest the majority of the shares you can do it the same. The only difference is the type currency you investing and the legality also.

Just like there are being whales here in the crypto industry, there are also whales with enough power to move the stock markets into a certain direction.

The main difference is that major crypto whales are playing with a few million, while stock related whales (which are mostly institutional level traders) have hundreds of millions to invest with.

OP:

Every market in the world depends on supply and demand. I can't think of anything with a certain value that isn't being based on that.

When it comes to altcoins, it's mostly the dev with a certain pumper team behind him that is making/breaking the price of a given altcoin.

With Bitcoin it's basically the public that is giving Bitcoin the price that it has right now. In this case the developers have no control in the way that they effectively can impact the price.

Avoid altcoins, and start focusing on Bitcoin only. Altcoins are nothing more than a gamble since people only hope on pumps and dumps to happen.

I don't think they are same, it is something different between cryptos coins with stocks and of course the price and analysis will be different too, i have tried trading altcoins using stocks analysis and i have been losing.

The movement patterns are not the same, cos most shtcoins are dysfunctional markets with huge spreads and low liquidity.

With stocks you can look at the performance of a company, consider the economic conditions and decide if the company has some kind of future fortune.
Commodities are ultimately about supply and demand.
FX is ultimately about financial flows between nations. Inflationary pressures and economic outlook may affect the price.

All traditional financial markets suffer price fluctuation because market makers manipulate the price by buying or short selling, and then making a profit on the end client, e.g. institutional investors such as pension funds, the construction company buying steel, or the person filling their petrol tank.

I would say crypto's are somewhere between commodities and FX. It's not really FX because crypto's are transnational in nature. It's not just supply and demand, because you can factor in inflation by POW/POS etc.

Problem is, there is not really any supply and demand for most crypto's and it is all just trader speculation. Sure there are some good service based alt coins out there, but many have far to much coin supply for their actual use.

Regulatory scrutiny is the other difference. Watch out for 'exchange specials', and wallets in maintenance mode.

I think trading altcoin as penny stock trading as altcoin trading have high risk, high return opportunity just like in penny stock trading.

While as trading bitcoin can be considered as forex market as price don't move much usually except few occasional big dumps and pumps.

for me its on your capability to asses they have some same pattern and movements but knowing deeper can be more edge
for us, stocks are also have its own movements while trading can be more bigger and fluctuations really happening from
time to time.

People take a high risk on penny stocks, knowing that most will fail, but the one that makes it might provide a massive return.

Similarly people may take a hit on many satashi coins, hoping that an apparently abandoned coin may get an unexpected wallet release. Proof of active development is desirable in the crypto world. It's probably the coin devs themselves picking up the cheap coins and causing the next pump to dump!

Bitcoin itself appears to be more like a traditional functioning market. Many spread betting / contract for difference platforms offer a punt on bitcoin now, so it can be bought long or sold short just like any other commodity.

Trading in cryptocurrencies is very much like trading in the stock market. The method of trading is basically the same. There are differences though such as the drivers for the price changes are different and the type of investors may be different. In other words, the stock market and the cryptocurrency market are independent of each other.

trading and stocks market are the same but when it comes to trading bitcoin there are some minor differences between these two.

and also when it comes to altcoin market and trading altcoins there is a lot of big differences since the altcoin market is 99% manipulation and 1% other things which makes all you know about trading worthless.

i think its the same because there is something that have to buy and sell. and the different is about the movements, where in stock market, the price is really fast to get movement in every day, and in the cryptocurrency, although there is a movements, its not like in stock market.

every market that trade is going on in it is subject of supply and demand. it doesn't matter if it is stocks you are trading or it is altcoins or even trading clothes, all the prices are determined based on supply and demand.

and to answer your question, i think bitcoin trading is more like stocks and altcoins trading is so much different. and simply put the bigger the market the more similar it is to stocks market.

Correct while stock exchange is regulated by SEC or by government,while cryptocurrency trading is not and prone to manipulation.Stock and trading are almost the same in my opinion.Bitcoin trading is more close to forex trading for me.

well, it is all trading and somewhat similar so all the rules apply to all of these markets the same. but there are also many differences between them too. for example manipulation is always a part and parcel of trading and all these different markets but you can't easily manipulate a huge market with a huge marketcap. but on the other hands you can easily do it on a small market like some of these altcoins. specially those altcoins with huge pre mine and ICO can easily be manipulated.

In my opinion,yes.

Altcoins like litecoins and ethereum acts just like regular stocks, and some of them are even more stable than the average wallstreet stock.

Although some people may disagree with me, I think that in both ways you risk your money like a gamble, unless you know some info that other people doesn't know.

It's not the same but it's very snimilar. For trading with stocks, Bitcoin or oil you have to have some specific knowledge and watch the trends on the market to know when to sell or when to buy to earn some profit.
For other goods and stocks there are also specific regulations that I think are not valid in the case of cryptocurrencies.

there are so many similarities and that can not be denied. but the biggest difference between these two is the fact that stock market is more regulated and they can't easily pull a scam like what some of the altcoins do.


all of them are based on supply and demand. who creates an altcoin makes that demand. i think you did not clearly understand what supply and demand means. i suggest reading the wikipedia page about this.


a passive income is the income you get from an investment which means you give money and receive profit each month or each week.
trading can not be a passive income because you have to work for every single satoshi that you make as profit!

According to me There is a Simple Difference Between that Trading is an Activity in Which We Buy Altcoin in Digital World and Shares in Real World and Sell them For a Profit But Stock Market is a Place Where We Buy and Sell Shares in Real World and the Exchanges in Digital World are Same as Stock Market in Real World....
So I Think that Trading and Stock Market are Not Same.......

that is just wrong.
first of all, stock is backed by a real business but these coins especially Ethereum is not backed by anything apart from hype and pump and dump.
second of all there is little to none manipulation in stocks market whereas altcoin market is full of manipulation and fake price changes. and not to mention the huge premine that some coins like eth has.


you risk your money but not like a gamble! although if you don't know anything about anything it is a gamble but trading in its nature is not a gamble despite being risky.

In my point of view trading and stock market have a similarity.
In terms of graph the pump and the dump scheme. Both trading
and stock market has its demands and supply. Likewise, they
dont have that much big difference.

they are the same in some aspects and different on some others. in general i think these two can be considered somewhat similar.

one of the differences that i have found is that in stocks market the rises are never like rises in altcoin trading market and that is because altcoin market is smaller, un-regulated and usually manipulated a lot.
also the country financial state usually affect stocks but it has no effect on altcoins.

In essence they are very similar since you will need to study in order to become successful, you need to look at graphs, read the news and all of that but the difference is that we are trading different financial products.

but to me the price of stock can easily be manipulate as there are so big investors in every field and for making desirable market they can really influence the market, while in crypto currencies and specially in bitcoin as it is not such an easy job, because bitcoin is a universal currency and its users are present in all over the world.

to me there is a little difference between them as in stock market we do trading about the shares of a company and not the product directly, while on trading we do trading of a particular item and not in shares of the company.

I don't think that they are the same but I do think they are reasonably similar and function in similar ways.

We need to understand that trading different sector stocks itself will not be same then how we can expect trading bitcoins and stock market would be same.

There are a lot of different factors and events are influencing the price levels of bitcoin and stocks. So, we must have different analysis to trade them. In my experience, the technical analysis will be same but intrepretation of news events must be different.