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Title: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: thejaytiesto on November 01, 2016, 12:55:34 PM
Im looking forward to gamble with the winner of the election. I think Hillary will win, so I want to put some money in there and see what happens. I want to do it through Bitcoin because it's more handy than regular transactions with fiat.

I need the best sites that are accepting Hillary/Trump bets to see what the odds are.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: shanem on November 01, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
The only site I know that offers election betting is directbet.eu but I am not whether their odds are the best as I don't really bet on politics.
How much are you putting your money on Hilary? If the amount is little, I don't think it is not worth the trouble to search around for best odds.



Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: DimensionZ on November 01, 2016, 01:07:18 PM
I just checked what's up on DirectBet and they do offer lines on the US Presidential Election so you could place your bets there right now if you wish. But I think their odds are some of the lowest in the Bitcoin sportsbook industry so I would recommend waiting for other sites to post their lines as well. NitrogenSports usually offer lines on non-sport live events but it seems their lines aren't ready yet. I am aware of these 2 sites offering lines but others more knowledgeable could add more sportsbooks.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: thejaytiesto on November 01, 2016, 01:19:29 PM
The only site I know that offers election betting is directbet.eu but I am not whether their odds are the best as I don't really bet on politics.
How much are you putting your money on Hilary? If the amount is little, I don't think it is not worth the trouble to search around for best odds.



Im not sure yet what amount I want to bet, that is what I was asking if someone has a list of bitcoin gambling sites with the Hillary-Trump betting.

I think Hillary will win... im not sure about the elections being rigged, I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but hell who knows, at this point anything is possible... and if it's really rigged, then it's money in the bank.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: OpenTalkLab on November 01, 2016, 01:37:23 PM
Here you go ...

https://directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Politics

hillary being fucked by her own vileness and Russian funding for Trump.Though i think hillary will win.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 01, 2016, 02:56:32 PM
I don't see the value in betting on Hilary OP, her odds are really low. You'd have to put a fair amount on to make any profit that makes it worthwhile.

Having said that I do believe Hilary will win so I guess you could be looking at a near enough guaranteed win.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Erza on November 01, 2016, 03:05:42 PM
The only site I know that offers election betting is directbet.eu but I am not whether their odds are the best as I don't really bet on politics.
How much are you putting your money on Hilary? If the amount is little, I don't think it is not worth the trouble to search around for best odds.



Huge amount or small amount does not matter too because the only thing that really matter is you need to win that although how small the bet is and if you compare to other site besides directbet, i think they wont have much difference too because this will affect on players that placing the bet. May be the difference will be around 0.1 or 0.2 to be sure. And more over if you play on directbet, your withdrawal will be instant


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: tempo7 on November 01, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
I saw this bet in Youwin. Youwin is a good and reliable company i think so you can bet high stakes if you wish. They i malta(mga) licence and curacao e-gambling licence as i know. My choice is Trump by the way i bet 100 Turkish Lira to him :)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: mobnepal on November 01, 2016, 03:45:49 PM
Here you go ...

https://directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Politics

hillary being fucked by her own vileness and Russian funding for Trump.Though i think hillary will win.
I also like directbet to bet with however odd for hillary is really low in every betting platform as chance of hillary going to win this election is quite higher than trump.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Warkop on November 01, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
Surely we should see between the two to see the vision of their mission in the US presidential election that is better for the future, and treat people for a better life and future is the same and not spotted and closeout mere promise .. :)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 01, 2016, 04:36:50 PM
With the way Trump led his Camapign for the last few weeks he will most likely lose and all these odds prove it on the website. You are better off betting on Trump and if he wins you will win big. You never know what surprises he might have in store for us next week.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Golftech on November 01, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
With the way Trump led his Camapign for the last few weeks he will most likely lose and all these odds prove it on the website. You are better off betting on Trump and if he wins you will win big. You never know what surprises he might have in store for us next week.
taking this into consideration i guess placing small bet for trump will make me win big just incase and its a gamble so i just want
to win some good earnings in returned, let see if which house will give much bigger odd for trump.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: philiveyjr on November 01, 2016, 04:47:09 PM
Sounds like a really interesting bet to make. Is trump not a candidate for the president ? Don't see him listed on the directbet betting for the next president. https://directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=27713489


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Febo on November 01, 2016, 06:17:33 PM
Sounds like a really interesting bet to make. Is trump not a candidate for the president ? Don't see him listed on the directbet betting for the next president. https://directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=27713489

Yes that is strange. and there are candidates that already pulled out their candidacy.
But is an interesting site. With lots political bettings. Also from Europe.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 01, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
you are being funny,it has been decided by the global goverment already that Trump will be the US next president
what you see now is the struggle between national elites (Clinton) and global elites (Trump)
the problem with this election is that 80% of the mass media controlled by the national elites representatives and the polls are so skewed it is not even funny
but as we all know winning the elections doesn't guarantee presidency,Gor be my witness
http://europe.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765?rm=eu
so I would not bet on the results,just because there could be ...lets say variations


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Junko on November 02, 2016, 12:43:54 AM
you are being funny,it has been decided by the global goverment already that Trump will be the US next president
what you see now is the struggle between national elites (Clinton) and global elites (Trump)
the problem with this election is that 80% of the mass media controlled by the national elites representatives and the polls are so skewed it is not even funny
but as we all know winning the elections doesn't guarantee presidency,Gor be my witness
http://europe.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765?rm=eu
so I would not bet on the results,just because there could be ...lets say variations


National elites (US) are on the same team as the global elites. Hillary is their candidate in that she is bought and paid for by them.

Trump is anti-elites, anti-globalists and anti-establishment. He is national populist. He is beholden to no one except the people and is for national sovereignty.

I want Trump to win, but I made my bet months ago on directbet 0.1BTC that Hillary will win the election. #RiggedAF


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: DarkStar_ on November 02, 2016, 01:03:52 AM
Avoid DirectBet.eu - their odds are shit and their options are low as well. I'd highly recommend Fairlay. Trustworthy, high limits and best odds - what else could you need? (other than the 1% commission if you win removed).

Here is the link if you want to bet: https://www.fairlay.com/market/next-president-11/

https://i.imgur.com/emOD1Wh.png
vs
https://i.imgur.com/ZdHqKU0.png

I don't see the value in betting on Hilary OP, her odds are really low. You'd have to put a fair amount on to make any profit that makes it worthwhile.

Having said that I do believe Hilary will win so I guess you could be looking at a near enough guaranteed win.

I don't think the election will be an upset, so betting only Hillary to win is pretty safe and has a good value.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: MinerHQ on November 02, 2016, 01:22:28 AM
I don't see the value in betting on Hilary OP, her odds are really low. You'd have to put a fair amount on to make any profit that makes it worthwhile.

Having said that I do believe Hilary will win so I guess you could be looking at a near enough guaranteed win.

Until last week Hilary was leading the poll results but after the email issue come up she is slowly losing her lead in poll results and as of today Trump is leading by one or two points. But this will be a neck to neck election and very difficult for anyone to guess the results.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: fullypak on November 02, 2016, 03:36:22 AM
I don't see the value in betting on Hilary OP, her odds are really low. You'd have to put a fair amount on to make any profit that makes it worthwhile.

Having said that I do believe Hilary will win so I guess you could be looking at a near enough guaranteed win.

Until last week Hilary was leading the poll results but after the email issue come up she is slowly losing her lead in poll results and as of today Trump is leading by one or two points. But this will be a neck to neck election and very difficult for anyone to guess the results.

Yes, now this election become very interesting. Both got equal chances of winning the election. Worldwide markets are already more volatile due to this uncertainty situation like who will be the next president of USA? I still feel that Hilary may win this election, lets see how it goes..



Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: groozh on November 02, 2016, 04:17:49 AM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: TraderETH on November 02, 2016, 04:25:39 AM
Im looking forward to gamble with the winner of the election. I think Hillary will win, so I want to put some money in there and see what happens. I want to do it through Bitcoin because it's more handy than regular transactions with fiat.

I need the best sites that are accepting Hillary/Trump bets to see what the odds are.
I have plan using directbet.eu and i will making betting on Hillary too, i think she will be wins on election but still waiting because of i don't have enough bitcoin for making it on directbet.eu and still there is time.  ;D


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: arseaboy on November 02, 2016, 04:38:14 AM
Im looking forward to gamble with the winner of the election. I think Hillary will win, so I want to put some money in there and see what happens. I want to do it through Bitcoin because it's more handy than regular transactions with fiat.

I need the best sites that are accepting Hillary/Trump bets to see what the odds are.
I have plan using directbet.eu and i will making betting on Hillary too, i think she will be wins on election but still waiting because of i don't have enough bitcoin for making it on directbet.eu and still there is time.  ;D

Yeah I will try that site too and will still to wait for some available betting sites with the same topic. I like Hillary too and I'm really confident that she will win the election. Trump only knows how to talk nonsense (just my opinion)  ;D


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 02, 2016, 05:34:39 AM
I'm looking to sell my full Donald Trump wager or half of it.

Beating all major bitcoin sports book odds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668272.0


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
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Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: newcripto on November 02, 2016, 11:54:08 AM
I have my bet on Hillary Clinton for that betting I used directbet.eu few weeks ago when odds were really much better than they looks right now. I like the idea of having another round to cover or polish your odds at election night when odds will be huge for both candidates with spreading of different news.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: pereira4 on November 02, 2016, 12:57:54 PM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit

There's no thing such as guaranteed profit, if there was, you would take 1 million dollars loan and go all in on your "guaranteed winner", but you will not because we don't know who is going to win.

I also think Hillary will win and it's relatively safe to bet on a Hillary win, but we don't know, Trump may win too, its getting close..


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: olubams on November 02, 2016, 01:16:40 PM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit

There's no thing such as guaranteed profit, if there was, you would take 1 million dollars loan and go all in on your "guaranteed winner", but you will not because we don't know who is going to win.

I also think Hillary will win and it's relatively safe to bet on a Hillary win, but we don't know, Trump may win too, its getting close..
If I will bet, I will definitely wait for the night before the election as being suggested but I will also bet on Hillary irrespective of the odds whether small or big or even if the gap is closed or not. I also have a feeling that the major betting sites might actually want to make Trump win as a result they make enormous amount of wealth as a lot of people maybe not in US will still want to go with Hilary


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 02, 2016, 01:26:54 PM
Yeah but its really not worth the risk taking a Hillary bet. Even if you win, you won't win much. Maybe Trump will come back with a revgance and surprice us all and he might actually win. Better odds then.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on November 02, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Yeah but its really not worth the risk taking a Hillary bet. Even if you win, you won't win much. Maybe Trump will come back with a revgance and surprice us all and he might actually win. Better odds then.

Yep! That's basically what I did. No fun going for Hilary. Plus I still can't shake off in my guts how Trump might really win this election, and yep, i'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Lol


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Blitzboy on November 02, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
Im looking forward to gamble with the winner of the election. I think Hillary will win, so I want to put some money in there and see what happens. I want to do it through Bitcoin because it's more handy than regular transactions with fiat.

I need the best sites that are accepting Hillary/Trump bets to see what the odds are.
In my opinion, onehash.com is a good site for you to bet who is the winner of the USA election. You do not need to make an account to place your bet. All you need is a receiving address so that they can send the bitcoin back to you if you win the bet. Fast and convenient and efficient


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: thejaytiesto on November 02, 2016, 04:25:04 PM
If anyone is interested, I have found this very useful website, that shows different gambling sites and compares the odds on a certain topic. In this case, for the US election:

https://www.bitedge.co/odds-comparison/2016-us-presidential-election/

I think I will wait until the last minute to make a bet, you never know with all those leaks.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 02, 2016, 07:31:14 PM
The issue with Trump was that he basically insulted the majority of voters, especially Women. And also many immigrants and muslims. He really should of kept some comments to himself instead of posting all these insults on Twitter. It might of been entertaining from time to time however its what caused him to lose.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 02, 2016, 10:16:58 PM
The issue with Trump was that he basically insulted the majority of voters, especially Women. And also many immigrants and muslims. He really should of kept some comments to himself instead of posting all these insults on Twitter. It might of been entertaining from time to time however its what caused him to lose.
quote him insulting majority of voters and women :) ?
or was it CNN that said so?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=851BqHMCaeM  here is Trump's official camapign's clip :)
Trump speaks his mind,he is not a politician per se
thats why he is going to win,or murica has no future whatsoever
it won't sustain another 4 years of lies and broken promises and will collapse USSR style,but worse due to inherent racial and other problems
those betting Hillary to win are in for a big surprise



Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 03, 2016, 12:17:20 AM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit

There's no thing such as guaranteed profit, if there was, you would take 1 million dollars loan and go all in on your "guaranteed winner", but you will not because we don't know who is going to win.

I also think Hillary will win and it's relatively safe to bet on a Hillary win, but we don't know, Trump may win too, its getting close..

I'm pretty sure that you're missing the point. You can "play the odds" and try to bet such that you're +ev whether Hillary or Trump win - by betting and seeing if the odds change in your favor (you bet on a favorite, and then the payout decreases for them and increases for the other - now you can bet on the other candidate and profit no matter the result)

For example... on the day, Hillary's odds are at 1.98x and Donald Trump's odds are at 1.98x as well (arbitrary example)

You "short" on Hillary Clinton where you expect her payout to decline. Say you bet 10 BTC.

This is the case and then now her odds are at 1.32x and Trump's odds are at 3.3x (like on DB right now) then now you can make a bet on Trump odds to get a guaranteed profit.

If Hillary wins, your prior bet gives you a profit of 9.8 BTC.
If Trump wins, you lose 10 BTC...
So you prevent that by betting at least 3.04 BTC on Trump. If you want a profit, then you bet 6 BTC which would provide the following:

Your total bet is 16 BTC.
If Hillary wins, you win 19.8 BTC - 16 BTC = 3.8 BTC
If Trump wins, you win 19.8 BTC - 16 BTC = 3.8 BTC

Guaranteed profit of 3.8 BTC. Unless somehow the other candidates win.



You can check the math:

To choose a profitable bet with the increased Trump odds... let n represent the amount you bet on Trump

If Hillary wins, your profit is 19.8 - n - 10 (winnings - hedge bet - initial wager)
If Trump wins, your profit is 3.3n - n - 10 (winnings - hedge bet - initial wager)

19.8 - n  - 10 = 3.3n - n - 10
9.8 - n = 2.3n - 10
19.8 = 3.3n

n = 6

So you bet 6 BTC. And you get a profit of 19.8 - n - 10 = 3.8 BTC



Use this Sports Betting Hedge Calculator (http://http://www.betsmart.co/hedge-calculator/) to simplify things so you that don't have to do algebra.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Erza on November 03, 2016, 04:06:47 AM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit

There's no thing such as guaranteed profit, if there was, you would take 1 million dollars loan and go all in on your "guaranteed winner", but you will not because we don't know who is going to win.

I also think Hillary will win and it's relatively safe to bet on a Hillary win, but we don't know, Trump may win too, its getting close..

I'm pretty sure that you're missing the point. You can "play the odds" and try to bet such that you're +ev whether Hillary or Trump win - by betting and seeing if the odds change in your favor (you bet on a favorite, and then the payout decreases for them and increases for the other - now you can bet on the other candidate and profit no matter the result)

For example... on the day, Hillary's odds are at 1.98x and Donald Trump's odds are at 1.98x as well (arbitrary example)

You "short" on Hillary Clinton where you expect her payout to decline. Say you bet 10 BTC.

This is the case and then now her odds are at 1.32x and Trump's odds are at 3.3x (like on DB right now) then now you can make a bet on Trump odds to get a guaranteed profit.

If Hillary wins, your prior bet gives you a profit of 9.8 BTC.
If Trump wins, you lose 10 BTC...
So you prevent that by betting at least 3.04 BTC on Trump. If you want a profit, then you bet 6 BTC which would provide the following:

Your total bet is 16 BTC.
If Hillary wins, you win 19.8 BTC - 16 BTC = 3.8 BTC
If Trump wins, you win 19.8 BTC - 16 BTC = 3.8 BTC

Guaranteed profit of 3.8 BTC. Unless somehow the other candidates win.



You can check the math:

To choose a profitable bet with the increased Trump odds... let n represent the amount you bet on Trump

If Hillary wins, your profit is 19.8 - n - 10 (winnings - hedge bet - initial wager)
If Trump wins, your profit is 3.3n - n - 10 (winnings - hedge bet - initial wager)

19.8 - n  - 10 = 3.3n - n - 10
9.8 - n = 2.3n - 10
19.8 = 3.3n

n = 6

So you bet 6 BTC. And you get a profit of 19.8 - n - 10 = 3.8 BTC



Use this Sports Betting Hedge Calculator (http://www.bobbybucks.com/hedge_calculator.php) to simplify things so you that don't have to do algebra.

I dont think that this is right though. You said that the odds right now is 1.32 on hillary and 3.3 on trump. But you calculate it with 1.98 on hillary? How can this thing is a guarantee win? Does not make sense to me though. If you want to make this guarantee win you must bet on minimum 40% more on hillary then you can make this equal or put more to get more profit


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Superhitech on November 03, 2016, 04:38:19 AM
The issue with Trump was that he basically insulted the majority of voters, especially Women. And also many immigrants and muslims. He really should of kept some comments to himself instead of posting all these insults on Twitter. It might of been entertaining from time to time however its what caused him to lose.

Yes, I believe that Trump would've won easily had he controlled his mouth a bit better, as a lot of people don't like Hillary and American citizens want something different; a successful businessman (as opposed to a politician) probably would've won.

I wanted to bet, but after the recent allegations against Trump, I believe that the odds are way against him right now.

All the well known sportsbetting sites have been listed already, but if you want to try something different, check out https://www.betmoose.com. You can bet on anything there, including politics!


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 03, 2016, 07:41:37 AM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit

There's no thing such as guaranteed profit, if there was, you would take 1 million dollars loan and go all in on your "guaranteed winner", but you will not because we don't know who is going to win.

I also think Hillary will win and it's relatively safe to bet on a Hillary win, but we don't know, Trump may win too, its getting close..

I'm pretty sure that you're missing the point. You can "play the odds" and try to bet such that you're +ev whether Hillary or Trump win - by betting and seeing if the odds change in your favor (you bet on a favorite, and then the payout decreases for them and increases for the other - now you can bet on the other candidate and profit no matter the result)

For example... on the day, Hillary's odds are at 1.98x and Donald Trump's odds are at 1.98x as well (arbitrary example)

You "short" on Hillary Clinton where you expect her payout to decline. Say you bet 10 BTC.

This is the case and then now her odds are at 1.32x and Trump's odds are at 3.3x (like on DB right now) then now you can make a bet on Trump odds to get a guaranteed profit.

If Hillary wins, your prior bet gives you a profit of 9.8 BTC.
If Trump wins, you lose 10 BTC...
So you prevent that by betting at least 3.04 BTC on Trump. If you want a profit, then you bet 6 BTC which would provide the following:

Your total bet is 16 BTC.
If Hillary wins, you win 19.8 BTC - 16 BTC = 3.8 BTC
If Trump wins, you win 19.8 BTC - 16 BTC = 3.8 BTC

Guaranteed profit of 3.8 BTC. Unless somehow the other candidates win.



You can check the math:

To choose a profitable bet with the increased Trump odds... let n represent the amount you bet on Trump

If Hillary wins, your profit is 19.8 - n - 10 (winnings - hedge bet - initial wager)
If Trump wins, your profit is 3.3n - n - 10 (winnings - hedge bet - initial wager)

19.8 - n  - 10 = 3.3n - n - 10
9.8 - n = 2.3n - 10
19.8 = 3.3n

n = 6

So you bet 6 BTC. And you get a profit of 19.8 - n - 10 = 3.8 BTC



Use this Sports Betting Hedge Calculator (http://www.bobbybucks.com/hedge_calculator.php) to simplify things so you that don't have to do algebra.

There is something wrong in your calculation. Hillary's odds are around 1.3 on the best website and for trump its around 3.5 or so. I think you made a calculation somewhere.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Invulner on November 03, 2016, 07:42:37 AM
Im looking forward to gamble with the winner of the election. I think Hillary will win, so I want to put some money in there and see what happens. I want to do it through Bitcoin because it's more handy than regular transactions with fiat.

I need the best sites that are accepting Hillary/Trump bets to see what the odds are.

Try fairlays. They basically is an orderbook for predictions... Pretty sure they are offering Hillary/Trump betting as well. The odds I am not so sure about whether they are better or worse than conventional non bitcoin bookies.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: th3nolo on November 03, 2016, 08:08:00 AM
Maybe onehash can be your website, but  be carefully the odds changes because they change even if you already made the bet. Try to look this website hours before the elections came.

Current Odds.

https://fotos.subefotos.com/497cc461b683fb4bdd84211926dbf3e3o.png


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: retrocoingames on November 03, 2016, 09:34:18 AM
Love that we can bet on this!

I don't see an option to bet on Trump head to head at directbet  :-\


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Betwrong on November 03, 2016, 10:06:20 AM
Maybe onehash can be your website, but  be carefully the odds changes because they change even if you already made the bet. Try to look this website hours before the elections came.
~

Unfortunately onehash isn't opening for me at all, so I can't check it myself, but I don't understand how is it possible that they change the odds even if you already made the bet. Shouldn't they accept your bet with initial odds, with odds which were when you made that bet? Because otherwise maybe you wouldn't bet at all.

I mean of course they can change the odds with time for the future players, but for those who already made the bet the odds should stay as they were when the bet was made.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: bitbollo on November 03, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
Here you go ...

https://directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Politics

hillary being fucked by her own vileness and Russian funding for Trump.Though i think hillary will win.

there isn't the option "Trump" as winner for the election, or I am missing something?

I think one of the best book for this type of betting it's betfair.com , one of the largest bet market.



Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: pereira4 on November 03, 2016, 05:18:46 PM
This is really exciting. Every day you don't know what's going to happen, since there are leaks on both fronts. Trump gets all those tax avoidance leaks and controversial/embarrassing leaks from past recordings and Hillary gets all those deleted emails. China spys vs russia spys? who knows.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: fulgdenea on November 03, 2016, 05:30:25 PM
This is really exciting. Every day you don't know what's going to happen, since there are leaks on both fronts. Trump gets all those tax avoidance leaks and controversial/embarrassing leaks from past recordings and Hillary gets all those deleted emails. China spys vs russia spys? who knows.

Presidential election now turned into very interesting way so that I am also agreed with you, at the moment it's really hard to predict who will be the next president there are so many scandals for both sides, I had my bet on Hillary for some times ago so will see what will be happen next.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 03, 2016, 07:48:09 PM
sadly,now the best odds are gone,Trump goes for 2.5-2.7 and dropping
Hillary from 1.19 went up to 1.4-1.55
in a day or two this is so gonna reverse,you will see more and more "real" pollls that reflect the true numbers of voters (which is slightly scewed in Trumps favour ,I'd say 55% to 45%)
all in all its not how they vote
it is how it is counted :)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 03, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
I dont think that this is right though. You said that the odds right now is 1.32 on hillary and 3.3 on trump. But you calculate it with 1.98 on hillary? How can this thing is a guarantee win? Does not make sense to me though. If you want to make this guarantee win you must bet on minimum 40% more on hillary then you can make this equal or put more to get more profit

Hrm... maybe being able to read and do basic algebra would help. Consider using your time on the internet to learn that instead of posting garbage for a few cents. Knowledge is money ;)

There is something wrong in your calculation. Hillary's odds are around 1.3 on the best website and for trump its around 3.5 or so. I think you made a calculation somewhere.

Nothing's wrong. Did you forget to see the key words, "for example"?

These are example odds. Why do I care about the actual odds when I'm explaining how to hedge?



On Sportsbet.io, the odds are 2.45 for Trump and 1.35 for Clinton right now.

If you're trying to profit off the odds changes, then bet on whoever you think will be more likely to win - then once their odds increase (and hence the other candidate's payout increases) bet on the other. There's risks and rewards to betting on a single market vs. trying to hedge.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Superhitech on November 04, 2016, 02:44:54 AM
Here you go ...

https://directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Politics

hillary being fucked by her own vileness and Russian funding for Trump.Though i think hillary will win.

there isn't the option "Trump" as winner for the election, or I am missing something?

I think one of the best book for this type of betting it's betfair.com , one of the largest bet market.

Yes there is, there is currently an option for betting on Trump as the next president.

However, it is a bit weird as they offer an option on betting on the gender of the next president, but they only offer betting on the next president being female, not male. Either way, it should be the same, just bet directly on the candidates.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Rating Place on November 04, 2016, 04:49:59 PM
One book with odds up that isn't mentioned in this thread is Betcoin.ag.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: pereira4 on November 04, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
One book with odds up that isn't mentioned in this thread is Betcoin.ag.

Yeah, I didn't notice and I promote the site myself. I think im going to use that one if I bet but we will see, im still going to wait more, the press is going insane and the info war is going to continue until the last very second. Both parties are going to try to ruin each other's reputation, anything can happen that would change the odds... I will wait as much as possible to make a bet.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: fullypak on November 05, 2016, 12:58:01 PM
One book with odds up that isn't mentioned in this thread is Betcoin.ag.

Yeah, I didn't notice and I promote the site myself. I think im going to use that one if I bet but we will see, im still going to wait more, the press is going insane and the info war is going to continue until the last very second. Both parties are going to try to ruin each other's reputation, anything can happen that would change the odds... I will wait as much as possible to make a bet.

I'm not going bet in this election but this is the most exciting election. Both are not showing their strong points to ask people to vote for them instead both looking for each other bad points to expose and get more votes for them. It has become now very difficult to guess the winner in this election.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: pereira4 on November 05, 2016, 01:48:45 PM
Wikileaks is releasing a new round of those weird ass Podesta emails... I think Hillary is taking a great deal of damage with all those leaks, I think they are going to keep happening until election day. I wonder of wikileaks has a massive bomb for the 7th.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: DirectDice on November 05, 2016, 07:34:05 PM
Here you go ...

https://directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Politics

hillary being fucked by her own vileness and Russian funding for Trump.Though i think hillary will win.

there isn't the option "Trump" as winner for the election, or I am missing something?

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Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 05, 2016, 10:57:07 PM
Wikileaks is releasing a new round of those weird ass Podesta emails... I think Hillary is taking a great deal of damage with all those leaks, I think they are going to keep happening until election day. I wonder of wikileaks has a massive bomb for the 7th.

I don't think it will affect her polls by much. These emails are nothing knew and they are getting old and people are expecting them. But I guess its good for Trumps odds.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: MinerHQ on November 05, 2016, 11:26:24 PM
Wikileaks is releasing a new round of those weird ass Podesta emails... I think Hillary is taking a great deal of damage with all those leaks, I think they are going to keep happening until election day. I wonder of wikileaks has a massive bomb for the 7th.

I don't think it will affect her polls by much. These emails are nothing knew and they are getting old and people are expecting them. But I guess its good for Trumps odds.

As per the news, these new leaks are nothing to do with old one and these are something new. She was leading by almost 12+ points couple of weeks back and now both of them are equal. Trump looks like a lucky even after so much of opposition from his own party members still got a chance to win the election.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: arwin100 on November 06, 2016, 08:55:37 AM
Wikileaks is releasing a new round of those weird ass Podesta emails... I think Hillary is taking a great deal of damage with all those leaks, I think they are going to keep happening until election day. I wonder of wikileaks has a massive bomb for the 7th.

I don't think it will affect her polls by much. These emails are nothing knew and they are getting old and people are expecting them. But I guess its good for Trumps odds.

As per the news, these new leaks are nothing to do with old one and these are something new. She was leading by almost 12+ points couple of weeks back and now both of them are equal. Trump looks like a lucky even after so much of opposition from his own party members still got a chance to win the election.


If we just relay on obama's saying well we can really say that hillary will win but if we based on survey and pulse it says that trump got high chance to win on the election, and thats the reason i will not surprise if the result will be good at him and surely odds are coming to rise up against those two presidential candidates, and the +12 points lead against trump is just numbers anything can be happen when the election tmday is coming and for what i've seen also trump is strong candidate to win on this election.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: bitcoinisbest on November 06, 2016, 09:13:41 AM
Don't.

The best odds are gone.

Wait for election night when there'll be crazy odds fluctuation - if you bet smart you can make guaranteed profit


So what were your tactics that you have used to get the best opportunity available in this fluctuation times and also have you earned it or actually lost it in this fluctuation and how much you have bet on and whom?


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: trafficolaa on November 06, 2016, 09:20:46 AM
Just few hours left for this historic election now both candidates have no big difference, Hillary is ahead with just 1 point of difference so that Trump still in the race, odds are still into favor of Hillary but I placed bet on Trump with high odds after seeing some recent changes there.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ultrloa on November 06, 2016, 10:04:11 AM
Just few hours left for this historic election now both candidates have no big difference, Hillary is ahead with just 1 point of difference so that Trump still in the race, odds are still into favor of Hillary but I placed bet on Trump with high odds after seeing some recent changes there.

1 is not even huge and it cannot affect the resuly it's just a poll and nothing else more is real anything can be change, trump is not a weak candidate aswell as hillary surely this election will exciting more to wait and odds are not so high since they are tied on statistics, and surely if trump will win on this election the americas faith will be change, and hillary is i think a sockpuppet by obama.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ralle14 on November 06, 2016, 11:41:15 AM
Maybe onehash can be your website, but  be carefully the odds changes because they change even if you already made the bet. Try to look this website hours before the elections came.
~

Unfortunately onehash isn't opening for me at all, so I can't check it myself, but I don't understand how is it possible that they change the odds even if you already made the bet. Shouldn't they accept your bet with initial odds, with odds which were when you made that bet? Because otherwise maybe you wouldn't bet at all.

I mean of course they can change the odds with time for the future players, but for those who already made the bet the odds should stay as they were when the bet was made.

The odds at onehash shifts from time to time so that they could balance the profit that will be made afaik you're betting against other players here and not the house. They also deduct a small fee from your winning bet. The only good thing from onehash is sometimes they offer good odds on favorites like clinton @1.6.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: fulgdenea on November 06, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
I have bet on both teams side long time ago I was with Hillary and Trump when odds were so high for him, now I'm on safe side with some arbitrage if Hillary will win than my profit will be low but in case of Trump I will get high amount, I wish for Trump to be next president.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Betwrong on November 06, 2016, 12:35:07 PM
Maybe onehash can be your website, but  be carefully the odds changes because they change even if you already made the bet. Try to look this website hours before the elections came.
~

Unfortunately onehash isn't opening for me at all, so I can't check it myself, but I don't understand how is it possible that they change the odds even if you already made the bet. Shouldn't they accept your bet with initial odds, with odds which were when you made that bet? Because otherwise maybe you wouldn't bet at all.

I mean of course they can change the odds with time for the future players, but for those who already made the bet the odds should stay as they were when the bet was made.

The odds at onehash shifts from time to time so that they could balance the profit that will be made afaik you're betting against other players here and not the house. They also deduct a small fee from your winning bet. The only good thing from onehash is sometimes they offer good odds on favorites like clinton @1.6.

Thanks for the explanation! Now I see, of course if the players know beforehand that the odds might change then it's a fair game. Also it's understandable now why are the odds keep changing: if the players are betting against each other and not the house then if say more players  would bet on Trump recently then Trump's odds would lower and Hilllary's would rise.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 06, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
Man I was watching his speech earlier and pretty freaky what was going on. At first I assumed he was shot! The last few hours of this will be crazy volatile in the odds and polls.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: pereira4 on November 06, 2016, 07:44:43 PM
Man I was watching his speech earlier and pretty freaky what was going on. At first I assumed he was shot! The last few hours of this will be crazy volatile in the odds and polls.

Yeah so much can happen in the following hours, it's going to be insane. I still don't know if it was a false alarm or there was actually a nutbjob there with a gun ready to shoot. In any case, Donald Trump had balls to show up again. Hillary would have totally left the building.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 07, 2016, 07:51:39 AM
overseas votes go heavily in favour of Trump
the d-day is coming :)
tomorrow those who wagered their money will be having some squeaky bum times,especially if they put on Trump to win at 4-5:1
I hope the vote is unprecedently fair this time and no civil war ensue if either side wins


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: OneHash on November 07, 2016, 09:00:55 AM
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Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: OneHash on November 07, 2016, 09:04:41 AM
Maybe onehash can be your website, but  be carefully the odds changes because they change even if you already made the bet. Try to look this website hours before the elections came.
~

Unfortunately onehash isn't opening for me at all, so I can't check it myself, but I don't understand how is it possible that they change the odds even if you already made the bet. Shouldn't they accept your bet with initial odds, with odds which were when you made that bet? Because otherwise maybe you wouldn't bet at all.

I mean of course they can change the odds with time for the future players, but for those who already made the bet the odds should stay as they were when the bet was made.

On OneHash YOU are the one who is setting the odds. Odds are changing with every bet to bring emotions to the betting. For example if someone will now bet 100 BTC for Clinton, odds for Trump will rise as hell. The more bets is placed on the team / player or candidate the less are the odds for him.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ObscurePen on November 07, 2016, 09:31:11 AM
Just to get this straight: is onehash a parimutuel book without time weighting for early bets?
Wouldn't it be advantageous to just bet at the last minute so you know what odds you are going to get?


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BTCyuan$euro on November 07, 2016, 09:38:44 AM
Just to get this straight: is onehash a parimutuel book without time weighting for early bets?
Wouldn't it be advantageous to just bet at the last minute so you know what odds you are going to get?

Yep, there is no time weighting. I asked them about it, they said that for now they are developing wallets to the side and time weighting it's the next topic.
I'm waiting till one hour before bet. If someone will put 1 BTC for Clinton ( I think it's possible), odds for Trump will be much better. But maybe there is no reason to wait .. I don't know ... I bet for Trump


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: bitbollo on November 07, 2016, 09:41:45 AM
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Hi Michelle, thanks for your reply.

I have just checked and I have found:

Next President Hillary Clinton @ 1.17
Winning Party Democrats @ 1.15
Gender of Next President
Female @ 1.15 / Male @ 4

So there is only this bet (Gender of Next President) where some one could choose Trump....  ??? ::)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Barbut on November 07, 2016, 09:49:01 AM
Yesterday I received a mail from betonline casino, headline of this mail was `Trump vs. Clinton: Celebrate The End With A Special Bonus`, they offer some 50 % bonus with code that is in the mail, and some other promotions, last line of the mail is:

`Odds to win some of the key battleground states are open too. Who wins Florida? Trump (+120) or Clinton (-150). Ohio? Trump (-175) or Clinton (+145). Hit up “Politics” under Futures & Props for the rest.`

I don`t have a clue who will win from this two people, prognoses are changing almost every day. Clinton have majority, Trump is on the run, some surveys that claim one or other thing. I hope this will help you with choosing where to place bets. Good luck to everyone!


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
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Hi Michelle, thanks for your reply.

I have just checked and I have found:

Next President Hillary Clinton @ 1.17
Winning Party Democrats @ 1.15
Gender of Next President
Female @ 1.15 / Male @ 4

So there is only this bet (Gender of Next President) where some one could choose Trump....  ??? ::)

Odds on OneHash are much better... 1.17 for Clinton WTF?


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ObscurePen on November 07, 2016, 10:10:09 AM
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Hi Michelle, thanks for your reply.

I have just checked and I have found:

Next President Hillary Clinton @ 1.17
Winning Party Democrats @ 1.15
Gender of Next President
Female @ 1.15 / Male @ 4

So there is only this bet (Gender of Next President) where some one could choose Trump....  ??? ::)

Odds on OneHash are much better... 1.17 for Clinton WTF?

The odds at OneHash are subject to change... Someone could dump 100BTC onto Hillary at the last second and make the odds 1.01 or something. Unfortunately I learnt this 10 minutes too late.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: bitcoinmaster44 on November 07, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
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Hi Michelle, thanks for your reply.

I have just checked and I have found:

Next President Hillary Clinton @ 1.17
Winning Party Democrats @ 1.15
Gender of Next President
Female @ 1.15 / Male @ 4

So there is only this bet (Gender of Next President) where some one could choose Trump....  ??? ::)

Odds on OneHash are much better... 1.17 for Clinton WTF?

The odds at OneHash are subject to change... Someone could dump 100BTC onto Hillary at the last second and make the odds 1.01 or something. Unfortunately I learnt this 10 minutes too late.

If your bet is for Trump is a good thing, hehe :)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 07, 2016, 01:31:31 PM
Yesterday I received a mail from betonline casino, headline of this mail was `Trump vs. Clinton: Celebrate The End With A Special Bonus`, they offer some 50 % bonus with code that is in the mail, and some other promotions, last line of the mail is:

`Odds to win some of the key battleground states are open too. Who wins Florida? Trump (+120) or Clinton (-150). Ohio? Trump (-175) or Clinton (+145). Hit up “Politics” under Futures & Props for the rest.`

I don`t have a clue who will win from this two people, prognoses are changing almost every day. Clinton have majority, Trump is on the run, some surveys that claim one or other thing. I hope this will help you with choosing where to place bets. Good luck to everyone!

I am just sticking to the official Presidential outcome. Its very difficult to predict who will win with the individual states. I guess you cool look up historical data on Republican/Democrate win percentage but its getting too involved.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: iram3130 on November 07, 2016, 02:07:24 PM
Well I had come to write directbet.eu where I have bet for Donald...  :D
I hope to win coz it will be a miracle though...  ;D


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 07, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
fivethirtyeight gives some interesting math behind the elections
they predict Clinton wins with 66% chance

https://i.imgur.com/edecmGo.png

https://i.imgur.com/Thfxcuo.png

you can read more about it in this article:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 07, 2016, 03:33:25 PM
fivethirtyeight gives some interesting math behind the elections
they predict Clinton wins with 66% chance

https://i.imgur.com/edecmGo.png

https://i.imgur.com/Thfxcuo.png

you can read more about it in this article:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo


Yeah I read this article, basically Trump was hoping that those emails would hurt her chances but it did very little. My guess is that he is simply a most hated person and he will lose because of that.

The best would of been a 3rd canditdate because I am pretty sure he would of been better than these two.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: kongosplit on November 07, 2016, 07:22:18 PM
Come one guys,

We all know that the winner will be Trump. It is more than normal. Or another possible result of these elections can be a civil war.. Personally, I would prefer to go on the moon rather vote with one of those!

And odds are pretty nice for Trump.

GO TRUMP GO!


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Dogedigital on November 07, 2016, 08:59:20 PM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc. 

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 08, 2016, 10:39:39 AM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc. 

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.
There are tons of reputable sites that you can bet on currently. No reason to do it off the books. Plus everybody knows that she will most likely win and the reward is low.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: puremage111 on November 08, 2016, 01:17:50 PM
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Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ndnh on November 08, 2016, 01:55:16 PM
Added another option 8)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674089.0


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Dogedigital on November 08, 2016, 02:17:50 PM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc. 

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.
There are tons of reputable sites that you can bet on currently. No reason to do it off the books. Plus everybody knows that she will most likely win and the reward is low.

The juice was too high.  -300 spreads across both sides is too much vig.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 08, 2016, 02:28:43 PM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc. 

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.
There are tons of reputable sites that you can bet on currently. No reason to do it off the books. Plus everybody knows that she will most likely win and the reward is low.

The juice was too high.  -300 spreads across both sides is too much vig.

Yeah it is pretty big. Probably won't get any lower. Are there any non-Bitcoin related betting sites out there with more volume so it has a tighter spread?


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: pereira4 on November 08, 2016, 04:14:10 PM
Damn the odds for Hillary are still shit. I was expecting the odds to get better for Hillary as Trump gains a little bit of traction through the day. I think it will be a really close fight, if Hillary loses somebody is going to lose a lot of money.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 08, 2016, 09:12:55 PM
Damn the odds for Hillary are still shit. I was expecting the odds to get better for Hillary as Trump gains a little bit of traction through the day. I think it will be a really close fight, if Hillary loses somebody is going to lose a lot of money.

The odds are crappy because she will most likely win. If you are following the news and some of the pre-vote poll results Trump is not winning in any States at the moment.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: elusive1 on November 08, 2016, 09:31:31 PM
Pinnacle -600/+481 (No Bitcoin accepted for deposit)
Bookmaker -750/+550
Betfair -477/+475 (No Bitcoin accepted for deposit)
Vietbet -710/+525
Nitrogen -909/+520
Fairlay Off the Board
DirectBet -630/+410


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: chrisevans on November 08, 2016, 10:07:46 PM
Pinnacle do accept Bitcoin indirectly via neteller though.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: elusive1 on November 08, 2016, 10:14:31 PM
Pinnacle do accept Bitcoin indirectly via neteller though.

True, small limits though, many countries missing as well


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 08, 2016, 10:16:31 PM
Oh, well its too late anyways. Most of results are pretty much out and its a clear indication that Hillary is the next president. Don't think anyone would bet against her odds right now.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: elusive1 on November 08, 2016, 10:20:30 PM
I am still betting at Betfair and others. Would have preferred to bet at Fairlay with their low 2% commission.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
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Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BTCevo on November 08, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
Damn the odds for Hillary are still shit. I was expecting the odds to get better for Hillary as Trump gains a little bit of traction through the day. I think it will be a really close fight, if Hillary loses somebody is going to lose a lot of money.

The odds are crappy because she will most likely win. If you are following the news and some of the pre-vote poll results Trump is not winning in any States at the moment.

But I saw most of the campaign is about trump and I thought that he gonna win but the odds against him. But although the odds is low for her doesnt mean that she will guarantee winner. Trump might have a chance too. Wondering how much is the odds for both of them until today


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Raimonn on November 08, 2016, 11:53:10 PM
If you remember what happened on Brexit, polls said No, and final result was Yes. Betting isn't 100%  safe. I think that betting big amounts never is a good move.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: erickkyut on November 09, 2016, 02:45:16 AM
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This is really funny! Lol!
Even the presidential election is being use in gambling?!
Instead of betting who might win as a president why dot we just pray and hoped that this election will be peaceful and the Americans will choose the right leader for their country?!


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: philiveyjr on November 09, 2016, 02:46:39 AM
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This is really funny! Lol!
Even the presidential election is being use in gambling?!
Instead of betting who might win as a president why dot we just pray and hoped that this election will be peaceful and the Americans will choose the right leader for their country?!

Indeed. They have had a lot of politics events in the past as well. Including the Brexit which happened this year. Hilary odds are now at 2.02 and therefore trump is at a better chance to win.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Slark on November 09, 2016, 03:17:49 AM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc.  

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.
Good luck with that now. :D


I see early election results and Trump is apparently winning.
Now I am beginning to regret that I did not bet on Trump ML yesterday when odds was @ 5.0x
Now it is too late when odds for Trump are @ 1.17 and are falling.

Official statistics: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president (http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: fullypak on November 09, 2016, 03:27:52 AM
If you remember what happened on Brexit, polls said No, and final result was Yes. Betting isn't 100%  safe. I think that betting big amounts never is a good move.

That is true. Most of the poll results will not very accurate always. Those just give an indication but in this election it was Hillary was the one was leading poll results but as of now Trump is leading but still can swing because these are just early results. Any betting should be just for fun with small amounts but shouldn't make it as a hobby to earn money from it.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 09, 2016, 04:18:47 AM
isn't it funny???
Trump is at 259 maximum unless he wins at NV,AZ,Alaska,Iowa AND Georgia
in that case he is at 265
looks like Hillary is dragged into presidency
wow this is a close race

https://i.imgur.com/0bQ7AAw.png


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: chrisevans on November 09, 2016, 05:22:55 AM
Pinnacle do accept Bitcoin indirectly via neteller though.

True, small limits though, many countries missing as well
I agree that is a limiting factor, which is a shame really as the site is pretty good.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ndnh on November 09, 2016, 02:01:20 PM
Yaaay! Trump wins! :D


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Kprawn on November 09, 2016, 06:01:13 PM
Yaaay! Trump wins! :D

I think their might be some people who are happy about this for the wrong reasons... The odds was not really in his favour to take this. I

would have bet against him to take this election. I hope some of the people that bet against him, would also share their feelings with us. Wow,

this was very unexpected... He is sexist and racist, but the people still vote for him.  ::)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 09, 2016, 09:10:02 PM
Damn! There must be tons of people who are crazy pissed with the results. I know one guy bet like 10 BTC on Hilary. If he won he would of only made like 1.5 BTC and ended up losing crazy big.

Congrats to all who believed in TRUMP.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 09, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
Yaaay! Trump wins! :D

I think their might be some people who are happy about this for the wrong reasons... The odds was not really in his favour to take this. I

would have bet against him to take this election. I hope some of the people that bet against him, would also share their feelings with us. Wow,

this was very unexpected... He is sexist and racist, but the people still vote for him.  ::)
Well, because of that shaming, a hidden demographic of people didn't speak about their support. Then election day hit, and all the supporters went and voted. For Trump.

Alternatively, you could suppose that some Trump supporters were busy or wanted to hide the real polls and didn't vote on anything until the actual day - to hide the true numbers of the support. It's all up for grabs. I mean, think about what happened with Bernie Sanders - so many on the internet loved him, but then hardly any of the polls reflected that.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: DarkStar_ on November 09, 2016, 11:09:53 PM
Wow, Trump won! Thanks Fairlay for having deposit problems 2 days ago when I wanted to bet on Hillary. Looks like I got lucky that it happened. Huge surprise for me, as I saw some sites even saying that the chance of Hillary winning was over 95%.

Sorry to all those people that lost big because Trump won, and sorry to the Americans that want to come to Canada but can't.  ;D


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BTCevo on November 09, 2016, 11:30:27 PM
Seems like my believe is wrong too. Last time I just told you guys that I believe hillary will win but I just play against the odds as always. And this lead me back have a good winning but I just make some small bet and at least I won something


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: kongosplit on November 09, 2016, 11:33:27 PM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc. 

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.
There are tons of reputable sites that you can bet on currently. No reason to do it off the books. Plus everybody knows that she will most likely win and the reward is low.

Yeah, I was one of the only one that 100% sure that Hillary is no going to win..

All of you bla bla, you know nothing. Now you saw the results!


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 10, 2016, 12:02:31 AM
Wow, Trump won! Thanks Fairlay for having deposit problems 2 days ago when I wanted to bet on Hillary. Looks like I got lucky that it happened. Huge surprise for me, as I saw some sites even saying that the chance of Hillary winning was over 95%.

Sorry to all those people that lost big because Trump won, and sorry to the Americans that want to come to Canada but can't.  ;D
Unfortunately, for me, I bet when the odds were ~4.5 for Trump (around an hour before they reached 5.1 on Fairlay).
I am happy that Fairlay's minimum bet was 5 mBTC - since I wanted to bet less than that, but simply decided to go with it. I didn't want to go for too much on the election, so small bets are just fine for me :)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: MinerHQ on November 10, 2016, 01:25:01 AM
Seems like my believe is wrong too. Last time I just told you guys that I believe hillary will win but I just play against the odds as always. And this lead me back have a good winning but I just make some small bet and at least I won something

It is not only you but the whole world was under surprise after the results because everyone thought Hillary will surely win. I didn't bet on any of them but still I feel many people last money who has betted on Hillary. Now Republicans got full power to change all the policies without any hurdles unless some of the republicans don't like the proposed policies.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: cruguy on November 10, 2016, 01:54:44 AM
I'm looking to sell my full Donald Trump wager or half of it.

Beating all major bitcoin sports book odds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668272.0

Still selling out?

Let me know? :D ::)


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 10, 2016, 03:01:19 AM
I'm looking to sell my full Donald Trump wager or half of it.

Beating all major bitcoin sports book odds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668272.0

Still selling out?

Let me know? :D ::)

Bahaha fuck no!

I bet more when I saw Trump was at +1000 early in the count!  I hedged my bet when Hillary paid +1150 for a locked in $3,300 profit.

Walked away fucking beautiful.

5Dimes.eu withdrew my coins like a champ. 


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Eric Cartman on November 10, 2016, 03:22:39 AM
Why is Michigan taking so long to be officially called a Trump win?

According to Detroit news Trump already won there, but CNN still has it as undefined

I bet that Trump would win in Michigan


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 10, 2016, 03:48:45 AM
Why is Michigan taking so long to be officially called a Trump win?

According to Detroit news Trump already won there, but CNN still has it as undefined

I bet that Trump would win in Michigan

CNN just wants to hold views with their lies... look at their poll #'s before the election!

What a scam!


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: BillyBurns on November 10, 2016, 07:06:23 AM
Looking to bet 6BTC on Hillary to win 2 btc. 

Please let me know if you're interested and we can set up an escrow.
There are tons of reputable sites that you can bet on currently. No reason to do it off the books. Plus everybody knows that she will most likely win and the reward is low.

Yeah, I was one of the only one that 100% sure that Hillary is no going to win..

All of you bla bla, you know nothing. Now you saw the results!

Well you were wrong because it was not 100%.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Eric Cartman on November 10, 2016, 08:25:14 AM
Where are the results officially shown by the government?

It is getting ridiculous now because everyone knows that Trump won at Michigan by 0.3%(2279210 vs 2267273) and the CNN site, used by Directbet to settle the bets, still show it as undefined, and I don't think they will update the site any time soon, if at all, because the presidential result is already determined and the elections happened two days ago.

Among all the states and I picked the only one that is not settled yet.

Mix of bad and good luck because I won and still didn't get the prize


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: ndnh on November 10, 2016, 02:03:13 PM
Yaaay! Trump wins! :D

I think their might be some people who are happy about this for the wrong reasons... The odds was not really in his favour to take this. I

would have bet against him to take this election. I hope some of the people that bet against him, would also share their feelings with us. Wow,

this was very unexpected... He is sexist and racist, but the people still vote for him.  ::)

I would love Sanders or Obama again for President, but given the two candidates I expected Trump to win this election.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/bernie-sanders-us-election-president-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-democrats-primary-results-a7408451.html


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: iram3130 on November 10, 2016, 02:16:18 PM
Well I had come to write directbet.eu where I have bet for Donald...  :D
I hope to win coz it will be a miracle though...  ;D

Not to brag but Told you so...
Won some nice amount of money...  ;)
God bless America might seem like a real statement now...  :D


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: Gasturcas on November 10, 2016, 09:14:57 PM
i missed this. I forgot to bet with trump. I know Trump will win despite of his behavior during his election campaigns. I'm against with Trumph because of his statements during election period. But anyway, I want to congratulate whoever has a big earning with this. And ofcourse, God bless america with your new president.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: leex1528 on November 10, 2016, 10:14:55 PM
So America is pretty messed up and there is actually a chance Hilary can still win.  December 19th the electorals will revote to confirm or have the ability to change their vote.  What happens if the president gets to be Hilary, what will betting sites do?


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: error08 on November 10, 2016, 11:02:24 PM
you are being funny,it has been decided by the global goverment already that Trump will be the US next president
what you see now is the struggle between national elites (Clinton) and global elites (Trump)
the problem with this election is that 80% of the mass media controlled by the national elites representatives and the polls are so skewed it is not even funny
but as we all know winning the elections doesn't guarantee presidency,Gor be my witness
http://europe.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765?rm=eu
so I would not bet on the results,just because there could be ...lets say variations


National elites (US) are on the same team as the global elites. Hillary is their candidate in that she is bought and paid for by them.

Trump is anti-elites, anti-globalists and anti-establishment. He is national populist. He is beholden to no one except the people and is for national sovereignty.

I want Trump to win, but I made my bet months ago on directbet 0.1BTC that Hillary will win the election. #RiggedAF
What an unfortunate loss to bet on Hillary win as the odds are lowest than what it should be and she lost the election.
Almost all of us thought that Hillary will win the election, looking at support she got and how she win the debate, unfortunately she loss. So, whoever bet on trump winning already cheers and enjoyed their profits.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 10, 2016, 11:02:52 PM
So America is pretty messed up and there is actually a chance Hilary can still win.  December 19th the electorals will revote to confirm or have the ability to change their vote.  What happens if the president gets to be Hilary, what will betting sites do?
Nothing, since most people have probably already withdrawn their funds. Besides, I think most understand that the current standings are going to be what the market was based on.

Otherwise, the books would be at a huge loss. For one, they paid off people who bet on Trump. How could you possibly take those funds back, and then pay off the people who bet on Hillary?


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 11, 2016, 05:56:27 AM
well,told you so :)
I knew Trump was going to win since midsummer
and it was based on analysis not biased and corrupt media or polls
sadly for me I didn't put enough money on Trump's victory and only managed 0.5 ish win


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 11, 2016, 06:20:57 AM
Yaaay! Trump wins! :D

I think their might be some people who are happy about this for the wrong reasons... The odds was not really in his favour to take this. I

would have bet against him to take this election. I hope some of the people that bet against him, would also share their feelings with us. Wow,

this was very unexpected... He is sexist and racist, but the people still vote for him.  ::)
Well, because of that shaming, a hidden demographic of people didn't speak about their support. Then election day hit, and all the supporters went and voted. For Trump.

Alternatively, you could suppose that some Trump supporters were busy or wanted to hide the real polls and didn't vote on anything until the actual day - to hide the true numbers of the support. It's all up for grabs. I mean, think about what happened with Bernie Sanders - so many on the internet loved him, but then hardly any of the polls reflected that.

no,nothing of the kind
you are correct in terms of total and complete failure of polls and mass media and "analysts" to predict the results correctly
especially given such a landslide victory with >290 votes in favour of Trump
but I think that the main reason was not the hidden demographics or Trump supporters being busy and all
in my eyes its the corrupt media and establishment that lost to vox populi,remember the polls and predictions and debate results?
when you are neutral and a citizen of a different country,completely unbiased
and you watch the debates and find Trump 10 times more convinvcing and truthful
and then you read the US media and hear that Hillary won the debates and that the polls predict her to win with 90% chance and you speak to americans and their opinion is divided at least 50-50
you KNOW something is wrong
the so called square states,people who were not taken into account,who were thought to just swallow the lies once again and be the herd elites believed they were
despite all the efforts,despite the early votes in swing states(accidentally all in favor of Clinton) came and voiced their discontent with how the country has been run
maybe Trump won't be the best president,but I don't think he will be any worse than the previous disasters america had


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 12, 2016, 04:48:37 PM
well,told you so :)
I knew Trump was going to win since midsummer
and it was based on analysis not biased and corrupt media or polls
sadly for me I didn't put enough money on Trump's victory and only managed 0.5 ish win


Well if you look at the vote count, he didn't win. Hillary won by like 100,000 votes or so. Basically it was a hit or miss election. She just won the wrong regions to make a difference. Highly doubt there will be a revote. Need to wait 4 years for that.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: piloder on November 12, 2016, 05:57:00 PM
well,told you so :)
I knew Trump was going to win since midsummer
and it was based on analysis not biased and corrupt media or polls
sadly for me I didn't put enough money on Trump's victory and only managed 0.5 ish win


Well if you look at the vote count, he didn't win. Hillary won by like 100,000 votes or so. Basically it was a hit or miss election. She just won the wrong regions to make a difference. Highly doubt there will be a revote. Need to wait 4 years for that.
Actually its very hard to try understanding US election the one who got more vote can also loss which is quite confusing  ;D
Hillary seem really unlucky despite of many have speculated her to be next president as well as many people want her to see as president she lost and also made many betters loss really big amount for small odd.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: radiologist11 on November 12, 2016, 07:13:32 PM
No hard feelings I wanted to know can I win for example 50 of jackpot if you bet 0.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: devthedev on November 12, 2016, 07:18:11 PM
well,told you so :)
I knew Trump was going to win since midsummer
and it was based on analysis not biased and corrupt media or polls
sadly for me I didn't put enough money on Trump's victory and only managed 0.5 ish win


Well if you look at the vote count, he didn't win. Hillary won by like 100,000 votes or so. Basically it was a hit or miss election. She just won the wrong regions to make a difference. Highly doubt there will be a revote. Need to wait 4 years for that.

The nationwide vote count doesn't matter, it's just a talking point for the media. The national popular vote has meant nothing for 168 years. Our Founding Fathers — with amazing forethought — created the electoral college for a reason. They wanted the president to be elected by a wide spread of states — not just the highly populated cities, a.k.a the elites. Without the electoral college, candidates would only campaign in Philadelphia, New York and LA.

https://i.imgur.com/ggWkm9l.jpg


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 12, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
The nationwide vote count doesn't matter, it's just a talking point for the media. The national popular vote has meant nothing for 168 years. Our Founding Fathers — with amazing forethought — created the electoral college for a reason. They wanted the president to be elected by a wide spread of states — not just the highly populated cities, a.k.a the elites. Without the electoral college, candidates would only campaign in Philadelphia, New York and LA.

https://i.imgur.com/ggWkm9l.jpg
Sure. But then the electoral college reduces the voting power of those in larger states, and increases the voting power of those in smaller states. That's not necessarily fair.

But then here's the issue with giving small states a starting value: candidates can't satisfy all those small states for a minimal payoff in electoral votes. They still campaign mostly in the more populous states. Sorry to disappoint. Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Florida, Virginia, etc. are visited.

Moreover, candidates would visit swing states more since states that are usually in their favor wouldn't matter as much (since 50.01% or 99.99% of the popular vote still gives you the same amount of electoral votes) - the problem with 51% attack.



And you think the presidential candidates would only campaign in the largest cities? Philadelphia, New York, and LA only add up to

New York City: 8,406,000 (2013)
Los Angeles: 3,884,000 (2013)
Philadelphia: 1,553,000 (2013)

= 13.843 million people.
The population of the USA at that point was 316.5 million. But, we need to take the population of eligible voters. Let's use the 2012 year.

235.248 million people.

Those cities make up 5.88% of the population. Do you seriously think that a presidential campaign would only worry about them?



Even if you campaign only in the top 50 cities (which is a LOT) that population still only adds up to 46,795,639. And if we consider the voting power to be ~2/3 of that population, you're left with 31.2 million which is about 12.5% of the total population that can vote. All the electoral college does is actually force candidates to visit swing states (so only a few states). The division is a sort of gerrymandering.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 13, 2016, 01:27:45 AM
Look the Electroal Votes won't change anything. He won by a huge margin and if any of those electorials vote against him there will be fines and reprecussions. Plus many of the electorial votes are for Trump and Not against him. I highly doubt people will vote the other way just because of some protests.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: actmyname on November 13, 2016, 01:38:00 AM
Look the Electroal Votes won't change anything. He won by a huge margin and if any of those electorials vote against him there will be fines and reprecussions. Plus many of the electorial votes are for Trump and Not against him. I highly doubt people will vote the other way just because of some protests.

Completely wrong, though. The electoral votes DID change things. Instead of America being based on the popular vote (which candidate had more of the population vote for them) it's based on the electoral college. If it were based on the popular vote, Clinton would have won. But she didn't, due to the US's system of giving all the electoral votes to a candidate when they win the popular vote in a state.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: devthedev on November 13, 2016, 04:32:31 AM
Look the Electroal Votes won't change anything. He won by a huge margin and if any of those electorials vote against him there will be fines and reprecussions. Plus many of the electorial votes are for Trump and Not against him. I highly doubt people will vote the other way just because of some protests.

Yeah, to say Clinton won the popular vote is as irrelevant as saying you won more overall tennis points despite losing the match three sets to two. Our founding fathers did the right thing to protect smaller states from being dominated by large population centers. They wanted the states to hold power and NOT the federal government, they didn't want majority/mob rule to dominate and possibly destroy the union. It makes states with huge populations, that vote a certain party not able to dominate and swing each election to their chosen party. Just think, look at California and New York and their respective state laws. Their population could swing every election and all of you would have to submit to their wants and needs, even though you live in a place where your wants and needs are completely different and they don't have any similarities at all.

Ultimately, it's a safeguard against pure democracy. It's part of the "minority rights" that are protected from "majority rule," I have been studying political science for about a year, it's genius.


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: veleten on November 13, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
think we all can agree that the 2016 elections were the most controversial and unpredictable for at least 50 years
winning popular vote didn't help Gor and many other runners,so rules are rules
the most important thing though: Trump is not elected untill he gets the actual votes cast,there were two ocasions when college voted not how they were supposed to vote
given all the recent calexits and riots I would not cross any possibility out


Title: Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites?
Post by: adaseb on November 13, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
think we all can agree that the 2016 elections were the most controversial and unpredictable for at least 50 years
winning popular vote didn't help Gor and many other runners,so rules are rules
the most important thing though: Trump is not elected untill he gets the actual votes cast,there were two ocasions when college voted not how they were supposed to vote
given all the recent calexits and riots I would not cross any possibility out

That and there was Gore who lost about a decade ago. He got the big numbers with the polls and everybody loved him, and last minute he ended up actually losing. But yes it was VERY controversial.