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Title: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: #Darren on April 04, 2013, 07:37:45 AM
I understand what the "current" best cards are, but I am reading comments about some "new" cards or systems that are coming out soon and people seem to think they might make the old cards seem poor in comparison.  How will the current "best" cards compare to these new wonder cards?  And can someone give a dummies explanation of the new/coming cards?


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: lbr on April 04, 2013, 07:40:27 AM
I understand what the "current" best cards are, but I am reading comments about some "new" cards or systems that are coming out soon and people seem to think they might make the old cards seem poor in comparison.  How will the current "best" cards compare to these new wonder cards?  And can someone give a dummies explanation of the new/coming cards?
nVidia will continue to suck.
AMD's new 7790 will be very power effective.
New AMD flagships are expected in Q4(?)
Anyway.. all GPUs are/will be absolete very soon.


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: #Darren on April 04, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
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Anyway.. all GPUs are/will be absolete very soon.

I think this may be what I am referring to, can you explain?


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: #Darren on April 04, 2013, 07:44:40 AM

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New AMD flagships are expected in Q4(?)

any idea what sort of percentage improvements the new amd's will present over the current ones?


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: lbr on April 04, 2013, 07:55:46 AM

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New AMD flagships are expected in Q4(?)

any idea what sort of percentage improvements the new amd's will present over the current ones?

7790 OpenCL performance -http://www.anandtech.com/show/6837/amd-radeon-7790-review-feat-sapphire-the-first-desktop-sea-islands/14
Check it's consumption and price first ; )
7790 is the first GPU based on new architecture, usually AMD rolls out the top card first, but now they are releasing the budget one.
Probably that's why it is called 7790 not 8750

Google "AMD Sea Islands" or "AMD 8000"


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: lbr on April 04, 2013, 07:58:40 AM
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Anyway.. all GPUs are/will be absolete very soon.

I think this may be what I am referring to, can you explain?

Check "Avalon ASIC" performance ; )

Ofc it's not mainstream yet, but more and more ASICs will start mining.
And if BFL finally releases theirs..
Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: #Darren on April 04, 2013, 08:17:48 AM

Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.

With loads of these on the market, would the GPU's keep mining along at their current performance rate?  btc or ltc per day.

Or will the actual amount mined per day be expected to drop?


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: lbr on April 04, 2013, 08:23:44 AM

Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.

With loads of these on the market, would the GPU's keep mining along at their current performance rate?  btc or ltc per day.

Or will the actual amount mined per day be expected to drop?
Ofc it will drop.
Pretty easy to check - count all Avalon ASICs, multiply by performance, add this value to current BTC hashing rate, compute new difficulty(f.e. here - http://www.kaptain.me/btc_calc.php), check how much GPU will earn per day at this difficulty.


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: #Darren on April 04, 2013, 08:25:46 AM

Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.

With loads of these on the market, would the GPU's keep mining along at their current performance rate?  btc or ltc per day.

Or will the actual amount mined per day be expected to drop?
Ofc it will drop.
Pretty easy to check - count all Avalon ASICs, multiply by performance, add this value to current BTC hashing rate, compute new difficulty(f.e. here - http://www.kaptain.me/btc_calc.php), check how much GPU will earn per day at this difficulty.

Thanks, that's what I figured.    Interesting conundrum  :-\


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: lbr on April 04, 2013, 08:39:19 AM

Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.

With loads of these on the market, would the GPU's keep mining along at their current performance rate?  btc or ltc per day.

Or will the actual amount mined per day be expected to drop?
Ofc it will drop.
Pretty easy to check - count all Avalon ASICs, multiply by performance, add this value to current BTC hashing rate, compute new difficulty(f.e. here - http://www.kaptain.me/btc_calc.php), check how much GPU will earn per day at this difficulty.

Thanks, that's what I figured.    Interesting conundrum  :-\

However.. more ASICs = more overall Bitcoin hasrate = more trust in Bitcoin = more USD per BTC = more profit for everyone, including GPUs
; )


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: simplydt on April 04, 2013, 10:10:37 AM

Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.

With loads of these on the market, would the GPU's keep mining along at their current performance rate?  btc or ltc per day.

Or will the actual amount mined per day be expected to drop?
Ofc it will drop.
Pretty easy to check - count all Avalon ASICs, multiply by performance, add this value to current BTC hashing rate, compute new difficulty(f.e. here - http://www.kaptain.me/btc_calc.php), check how much GPU will earn per day at this difficulty.

Thanks, that's what I figured.    Interesting conundrum  :-\

However.. more ASICs = more overall Bitcoin hasrate = more trust in Bitcoin = more USD per BTC = more profit for everyone, including GPUs
; )

So you are saying GPUs will still get to mine at least "some" bitcoins? I'm worried if i run x4 gpus there will be no return at all. (I've been CPU mining litecoin as a test and the solo mining so far has shown 0 ROI).

-D


Title: Re: Dummy question on videocard comparison - will the current cards become obsolete
Post by: lbr on April 04, 2013, 10:15:42 AM

Anyway, it is pretty much impossible to compete with ASICs using GPUs.

With loads of these on the market, would the GPU's keep mining along at their current performance rate?  btc or ltc per day.

Or will the actual amount mined per day be expected to drop?
Ofc it will drop.
Pretty easy to check - count all Avalon ASICs, multiply by performance, add this value to current BTC hashing rate, compute new difficulty(f.e. here - http://www.kaptain.me/btc_calc.php), check how much GPU will earn per day at this difficulty.

Thanks, that's what I figured.    Interesting conundrum  :-\

However.. more ASICs = more overall Bitcoin hasrate = more trust in Bitcoin = more USD per BTC = more profit for everyone, including GPUs
; )

So you are saying GPUs will still get to mine at least "some" bitcoins? I'm worried if i run x4 gpus there will be no return at all. (I've been CPU mining litecoin as a test and the solo mining so far has shown 0 ROI).

-D

The amount of BTC earned by GPU per day will drop. BTC exchange rate will probably rise.. feel free to make your opwn calculations ; )