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VOCAL app is nearing completion. To me it seems like a massive winner. Imagine podcasters, musicians, and just you and me able to share audio to social media like Twitter etc but when you want you can monetize a song or podcast, plus tipping. No one knows the future by my gut says this could go viral as shit.


Am I an idiot or is this huge cause so far no one seems to be buying?

https://mobile.twitter.com/circuitsofvalue/status/794020435788779520

You're not the only one. I don't get the current price to potential ratio going on here. I wonder if someone has suppressed for a later pump maybe. On a positive note there are some big buys developing on the buy wall.

i have been seeing lots of these so called "apps" that each do a different thing, they all have big ideas in their heads but they only seem good and never go anywhere.

in my opinion the biggest problem with this type of apps is that they think you need to make a new coin to do something that can already be done with bitcoin so they never succeed.

Indeed. That's one good reason why you don't want to swim on a beach with a raw sewage outflow.

On a serious note, though - VOCAL has to wait until the COVAL moves to the new blockchain and the devs are happy with the development of VOCAL to a degree that they are happy to see it marketed. Until then, those lucky enough to be in 'the know' are in the accumulation phase.

I think it's only you who thinks this is a great idea and people should buy into it :)
There are lots of apps with so much more potentials but no one even knows about them.

I get what your saying but with respect its wrong. There hasn't really been anything like this before, the closest ive seen is Steemit which has 100,000 users already. VOCAL has to have an altcoin to circulate in the sharing community it hopes to create. Also Coval is not just a coin but a platform with actually 2 coins, one traded and one as loyalty. There really is nothing like it out there. Steemit is simply a closed ponzi blog scheme this aims to monetize audio and give value back to music and audio generally. Its works on a much higher level that hey use this crypto to watch this, no it basically uses the blockchain, watermarking etc to make it impossible to listen to a media without paying in a decentralized way be it bitcoin or cash.


Think of the incentive for an established artist to release on this platform knowing pirating is virtually impossible. That's my point about it being potentially massive.   

there are only two reasons whenever people don't care about a news that you think is huge.

1) the news is only huge in your mind. which means nobody will ever care and price never moves.

2) the news is huge but investors are not yet accumulated enough so they are keeping it under wraps for now to buy more. for thins you have to take a look at the volumes to see if there is anything going on or not :)

I have been saying for weeks there is suppression going on. I just can't understand the mentality to sell even if the smallest rally starts BUT I can understand someone dumping to themselves  
 to monkey hammer the price. I do believe this is happening now but I don't understand why people put up with it and end up selling cheap, If I had enough BTC I would bluff the crap out of them.

If this was highly publicised with an ICO it would be getting 1000 btc at least. I wonder sometimes if the developers are accumulating cause they say they aren't interested in marketing but you got to wonder who benefits the most from that attitude?

It's obvious a pump is being set up look at the sell wall it's thinner than a super model on the Atkins diet.

This app if for COVAL coin?

I'm always interested in the music project based coins,
although I remember people talking about 2FLAV coin a lot and i don't think that project has really gone anywhere yet.

Its a little complicated as its not some shitcoin but a very developed platform, it actually has two layers. The blog is the best place to learn.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652345.0

i think it's more like devs seeing big easy money by dumping their coins.
what you prefer? work for a few years in a project that might never work or simple dump now and move to another project?

but yeah, i agree with you... i've seen great ideas around here, but it usually always die..

Hmm. Okay, so one can either buy or earn COVAL coins by playing some games,trying out some Rapps, and then be able to redeem/buy vouchers/discounts/gifts directly through the VOCAL's Reward side. Then media/e-books/mp3's will be sold.

But, will users be able to sell these or does VOCAL control that? Although my main concern, is if people would even be willing to pay for these digital goods considering all  'free downloads/piracy' going on in the net. I think people are accustomed to being able to get these e-books/mp3's  for free. So demand could be low which would, in turn, affect the 'value' of the coin.

Not to mention the likely hype and dump.

That's so correct reason, are people is had the same brain?, I could say different people = different mind = and the different act and reaction totally, this about the continuity of the mind relationship.

no one wants to pay for anything any more unless it's from a zombie walled garden like itunes. that's the long and short of it pretty much.

That's really funny, and exactly what I was trying to say. lol.

Why pay for it when you could get it for free. Unless it was really unique and popular content, or something you really really want that you couldn't get anywhere else.
Like iTunes, and for me especially, e-books on kindle, audiobooks from audible, and the like.

But the point is what if you couldn't get something with paying. What if you couldn't get the new JAY Z album without some audio signature running across it. This is the point of the project to bring value back to media online.

if there is such a thing as an audio signature, within a few minutes of being in the wild some kid somewhere will have scrapped it and posted up the non drm version.

i think it's very unfortunate, but a lot of paid media content is toast and will get even more toasty. a generation or two has grown up expecting to pay nothing.

That might be because it's the 5th or 6th atempt at this thing and all others turned out as scams. Legal questions remain unanswered. (copyright? How is it handled?)
I wouldn't touch that. Don't see a lot of potential there.

Also without shrilling I think some here misunderstand the project. Vocal is just an example RAPP built by the team to show how Coval can be used in a loyalty platform. Its a sophisticated Loyalty platform which makes Incent look literately like an earlier version of what Coval was as Ribbet Rewards and people are going nuts for the Incent ICO.(they have 5m marketcap as their basic ICO funding goal!)

Fact, there is nothing like it out there apart from the Loyyal which is the Platform its all sat on and is also built by the developer of Coval.  If people think loyalty isn't a hot area for crypto they would be simply wrong as its a 60 billion dollar industry and crypto and the rewards/points industry fit like a friken glove. And Coval is sat right in the middle of bringing advanced Crypto projects to it.  Stay ignorant and stay poor, its your life.  


https://medium.com/coval/circuits-of-value-8222011ac4f8#.p6mpmhi93

it is most of the time about creating panic and then create hype. the panic phase is when the whales want to buy more coins/shares/,,, and the hype part is when they had enough and now are ready to move on with the selling.

meanwhile both newbies and other traders will dump on panic and buy on hype because of "fear of missing out"

There's big money to be made in the crypto world with apps like this. All it takes is the app going viral and suddendly you are a new millionaire. If something as stupid as snapchat can go viral, I don't see why one of those bitcoin related apps can't eventually become viral too. It's a matter of time.

the problem is: there is no recipe to become viral...
most times good projects dont get the proper attention and sh*t apps get.

it's a sad market.

We've seen many quick rich schemes come and go. A few get rich. Most lose money. The coin/dapp/app/crap goes nowhere. Maybe this is why no one cares.

They give hero membership out to idiots clearly. Why is it over the Incent thread they all get that the points and rewards industry is massive but not here on the better and original Coval platform? The name is Circuits of Value that's the damn clue you morons. As someone offers Coval C as a reward for a purchase etc those tokens can be used to buy the same product again or used purchase anything on the Loyyal platform that will trade with them. Loyyal just signed up the Dubai Tourist industry what the crap has Incent got but a few online retailers!


This coin literally has value compared to the speculation of 99.9% of coins and this one is attacked for having no value, I give up.

I may be an idiot and a moron but I am not a frustrated bagholder. Clearly you are very emotional about this coin. I hope it works out for you. Remember to never invest more than you can afford to lose.

Exactly. None of these boutique coins will have the economy-of-scale to amount to anything more than a pump and dump.




Users will not pay unless it is more efficient for them to pay than not pay.

Competition is good! Especially when you are planning to disrupt a multi $billion dollar market.  :D

I think the developers is not too serious building their project, should they make advertising for making popular their project and there are many people who use it and there are no updating from developers, it makes bad to the project.

It is, not knocking it at all. But facts are facts its not as developed a project with lesser tech and even retail connects but as its an ICO people go nuts for it while the better earlier project get ignored.

Incent ICO basic goal $5,000,000

Coval current value    $300,000

I think because its more simple to understand Incent is popular but many don't understand the two level platform and loyalty generally of Coval.