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big sorry to all who buy zcash at 1btc+..look like price go like i say 0,2..but now i see some say price will go all till 20$ for 1 zcash...what is big hype was in start...

Unfortunately this happened with most Altcoins. At the launch date, all of them started at a high price and then fell down day after day until a stable price is established. If you want to buy Altcoins, ALWAYS buy them about one month after release and you'll be fine.

I think it's expected to go down in price because of the combination of the increasing blockreward and the ridiculous 20% developer tax.


For example, let's just assume Zcash magically reaches a marketcap of $100mil overnight for simplicity's sake (for comparison Monero is at $85mil cap and Ethereum is at $933mil.

That would mean 1 ZEC would go for 1.14 BTC at block 20.000 where the blockreward reaches 12.5 ZEC. Not going to happen but bear with me.

At block 40.000 (~69 days from launch) with the same marketcap 1 ZEC would only go for 0.38 BTC.

One year from launch with the same marketcap and with a supply of 2.503.000 that would only be 0.057 BTC per 1 ZEC.


Basically, it was, and still is a terrible investment unless the price drops way down. And who knows how badly the ongoing 20% dev fee will get in the way of people getting interested in it in the first place. It might never reach $100mil cap.

Wrong, this is just happened with zcash, in my history, i don't ever find about the coin are get decreased from 3500 btc for each into the 0.3 next rate 0.2 for a few hours later. Totally there are some false things with the coins.

it's not. and i hope you just not make a jokes op are just the leo coin advertisers.

1 btc is ok, there were so many retarded buying more than 100 btc, ath was 3299.99999 btc, I have to say lol to those retarded. ;D

1 btc is  somehow  okay  because   you  only  loss  a  little  but still   its considered as  loss  because you  bought  it at 1 btc and  the current price  is  0.2  which means you  lose for about  80% already   and thats   not  really good  how  much  more on  those  who  bought on 100btc.. If  i were  them  i would really  commit suicide.  haha. But still okay  if  they  hold  thousands  of bitcoins  and those  loss  is just a dust. Just  as expected this coin  already  build  a  big  hype  but in the  end   it really dumps  hard. As  usual thing happen  on  altcoin  in the first place.

I am not going to do discuss a speculation topic with a known LEOcoin spamming fraud here.

I also noticed this guy jumped on Zcash right away and has been running around flogging it since.
Honestly i think he just wants to get the word "LEOcoin" plastered all over as much as possible.
And i am not going to play along with his little game like the rest of you.

This clown is discussed at length in the scam section.
Do your homework Alcorn noobs.

I would advise against feeding into his puppet-account circle jerk antics around here..

I was a bit annoyed I missed out on this before it launched as there was a lot of money to be made when it first got released, i did think of coming in but decided to sit it out until the price settled down which i still don't think it has yet.

Well should it is not becoming problem and you don't need say sorry because fluctuation of price on digital currencies is normal although zcash's price is couple Satoshi and it is part of risk on investing into trading.

Being a trapped long term worthless shitcoin bag holder doomed and stuck never being able to get your money back... is normal.. NOT the crap you said.

Most coins start out high the minute they hit an exchange then drop off and never come back price wise.
That is the reality and that is called being honest.. you should try it sometime Craig Wright.

Besides Zcash is a scam and it's been proven with countless topics so really.. who gives a fuck how much you can possibly make off of a scam coin ?

I can't speak for the rest of you but i will not participate willingly in scams for money.
Good luck with that.. just don't run here whining when you get burned Investards.

There is no need to be sorry for anybody, it is foolishness of the first order to think a coin with no real world use yet worth over 1BTC+. The winner in Zcash madness are the miners

I think that everyone with an IQ higher than a room temperature was expecting this to happen, but that doesn't mean we should discuss this in a thread created by an MLM ponzi scheme shill.

Thanks for great suggest..i also say guys wait 1 month minimum so price stable!

but price that we see 3000 btc and then 10-20 btc for 1 zcash i think its all pump from zcash team and investors to try big hype so who catch in that hype lost big money...i am sure its plenty guys buy at that rpice to hold fast miracle zcash..now time show...
also with botnet that happen now..we see a lot... BTC is still btc ;)

sad but true .28 now really falling from time to time just bought it a day ago with .59 now i lost a half of it.
crypto is crypto many things happen from time to time so i will check my luck in other coins to recover.
good luck.

So many crypto already in place and well established and people gone crazy over a new coin? that is stupidity and greed and well they deserve it.
You just need to stay away from trading and just try to mine and sell that's all.

Well, not everyone lives in a country where mining is an option - high electricity bills, inconsistent power supply, lack of technical know-how and the likes.

I really don't think so.  I think this was mostly nothing else but orchestrated market manipulation.  Look at the market cap, and look at the initial investment.  Of course, here and there, there may have been a silly person having bought a fraction of a ZEC for a crazy price, but I think this has been mainly people buying their own coins to prop up the market.

0.6 ZEC were traded @ 3299 BTC. That's roughly 5 BTC in fees (if we assume its 0,15%). I would call that person/group whale/s, not "silly".

Being a traped on shitcoin is part of risk on making investment into altcoins, i don't think it is about scam or other criminal, i just think like trader who be lost the money because of being traped on shitcoin. Should the people who bought ZCash with high price understanding about what they were doing. And relax man it is just my opinion don't too take it personality....  ;D

Really hard to admit  to  be trapped  on a   sh*tcoin   but we should  admit it  and as you mentioned also  its a part  of the risk  involve  on  inveting  into  altcoins. Just  like  what we saw  on most all altcoins out there, price  on first  launch  is  commonly  high   and then  suddenly depleted  for   more days    and this things  really happen anytime but there are some  good coins  which  it stabilizes  back again for the long time. I dont  think  this zcoin  is a  potential  coin but already  a sh*tcoin for sure.

Thus the reason why some fud around.
One post the keep me laughing is that someone bought 1zcash for 3200 BTC.  He must be very depress by now, if that guy hanged himself after it, i can understand.

I dont really  understand  why a such  person   would really  to take risk  to  buy 1 zcash for 3300 btc which is really  insane   and  im wondering  on  what he  was thinking on that  time  when  he  purchase 1 zcash and  now   as we can see on the price  it  dropped  almost  on the  bottom and  that person  is surely  thinking  the  stupid thing that he  made. 3300  btc  is  no  joke and  there are  lots of  things you can do  with that amount and  now he loss  up .

If Zcash had opened at 0.2 BTC and remained fairly stable, would people be so against it? Is it worse that most other Alts?

Obviously that didn't happen and you can only sit back and be amazed at the stupidity of some people, but is the coin flawed, or are the people who bought it?

Are you guys even read? Who in his right mind will pay ~5 BTC in fees to buy ZEC @ that price?!? That's obviously a whale...

The trade volume above 1000 bitcoin is very small and there are many self buy and sell at the time.

it was all a hype and i am sure many have made good amount of profit from the rise (i missed it though because i was busy those days!) but it is always possible as long as you realize that all altcoins have is hype and nothing else.

also know when to get out which is the most important part of it all :D

The ZCash is a big hype at the moment. The price will keep on dropping until a big app comes out for it.

Eh, ZCASH is not an application platform...

If you  know  how  to enter  then you should  know when  to exit  and this is the hardest part  on trading because  price  is  unpredictable though  and people  who  do make trades  with it. I really  feel sorry  for those   stupid  traders or  investors who  bought zcash on insane prices. Better to  wait  for a  month  before you decide to trade with it, just  letting  up the   hype gone.

I agree had experienced this on two coins but these are exceptions some coins tend to increase the price when the projects start to roll,traders have different perception.some of them just want to pump and dump ,some of them wants long term profit.

zcash can recover to 1+btc or drop to 0.01 in no time. With this such low monetary base everything is possible.

just look the polo buy and sell wall, it's clear that someone is pushing down the price for a reason.

LOL yes dumb ass it *IS* worse than other alts.
As a matter of fact it's scam method is so much worse the smart guys called it revolutionary.

Are you kidiots retarded or what ?

3200 BTC ? fuck yeah that is funny !  :D

Good maybe we can get one less brain damaged dipshit profiteer out of here in my crypto altcoin scene.
Not like we are short on greedy retards..

I doubt it would recover to 1btc+. I dont know anyone who has said anything positive about this coin. It seems all its been used for is people attempting to short it and failing. Im sure by now there are quite a few bag holders though because the only people making any profit from this will be the founders.

As the supply cranks up the price will get lower and lower.

However, there will definitely be huge pumps in the future, but it is far too early to get in.

I agree and the Zcash is not going great these days so that is already saying enough, I think that it will be a pump and dump honestly but we will see what is gonna happen with it.

Are there mining companies you can send btc in to mine this coin for you? 

yes man...i think nicehash and genesis

Like i said "With this such low monetary base everything is possible."

When the pump will happen, and is the price of zec after get pumped will more than the first price after get put in the polo? if the big pumped soon will happen and i could not believe will reach over 10 btc again for each btc. and i think this coin are the the worst forever never ever i seen before.

10btc  pump for  zcash  would not happen  anytime soon.  The  thing  makes  these  things  hype  up regarding  to zcash  is the  people   behind it  which  is  the founders  itself.
Doing shorts  with  zcash as  of now  is  not an  ideal thing to  do because  as  you can see  it almost  dump its  price to the  lowest  compared to the  initial price which  rose  up  to 3.3k btc .

I feel terribly sorry for them. specially the losers who bought at 1K+ BTC price.

That being said, one should consider the probability of manipulation (by dev, polo, fans, etc.), because it's really hard to believe someone was stupid enough to pay that much!  :o

I was just knowing that this will happen. I wanted to buy it on 1B but after that I remember what happen to 42 coin :D and was scared to invest again in such [Suspicious link removed]d old days of mining 42 coin... I can say that Zcash was looking very promising in the beginning but after that not so much :( I am really sad :(.

Zcash is real reverse bubble. Price will go down in this month, so it could be great idea for Zcash owners to sale it now. Zcash is something like ETH bubble, but reverse one. Former ETH users can not switch to Zcash unfortunately.

Me I'm not sorry for them at all.

in few weeks we will see where we are... but for me i still mne with profit...electric is almost free..;)

Got into ZEC @ 100btc/ZEC

I think my great, great, great, great, great grandchildren will enjoy the returns on my investment  8)

Yes ,you are a rich guy..now time to wait..;)

There is no need to be sorry for them, they've all made history, in 4 years time we will be talking about them

nah, in a year from now nobody will even remember these coins and those who have bought it and i doubt that you can even find the charts and history of prices of these altcoins in a 4 years time in the future. they will all be forgotten and dead for a long time by then.

True,can be true...but i think in few years zcash will ne ok...but that time plenty news coins will be on top next to BTC and Eth!

That is indeed a very good idea. We all know that anything that is launched will always use marketing strategies and that includes hyping or should I say "hoping" so that excitement can be created and more buyers would be attracted. Yes, this can be true with any coins in the market.

If the ZAddress problem is resolved, the price will go up a lot. Otherwise the ZCash price will drift down.

zcash is just the same as other altcoin the yare starting in very high price and then they will gradually decrease and i know this because i experience to buy some altcoin i forgot the name but i making good profit in the first time because i sell my altcoin in high price but i stay in that altcoin and invest more but in few days  they are gradually decrease.. so i lose but i can be still recover some of them..

I think even they are solve the issue about the address it will be still the same..

That start at launch was insane, who was buying it at that high?  I hope you are atill not sitting on it, dont know how any new launch coin could be worth "millions" with nothing really behind it.  Ah maybe its just me

Only a matter of time!  8)

The price of the ZCash will rise a lot in the future if you price that in fiat or US dollars, might not so in bitcoin.

Hopefully anyone who bought right at the beginning was planning on a quick sale, or a LONG term investment.
(Since I don't see how any new coin can be worth anywhere near 1 BTC)

Being worth more than a dollar or two would be a big accomplishment for a new coin.

I think the developers are to be blamed for this mess in price, they failed to protect traders and let speculators have their day. They should have allowed the mining to regularized before listing on exchanges, now what miners are doing is to mine and dump the coins in the market to take profit. Even with all the hype Zcash did not enter top 10 on coinmarketcap.com but I expect things to normalize soon

You should blame the exchanges. The exchange opened when there are just a few ZEC. So the price was high.

the price was fake to be fair because there really isn't enough demand for this coin to make it worth more than bitcoin! it should have came down even sooner.


what do you think other miners of other altcoins do? they all mine and dump or some of them dump on the small rises but they never hold. that is the only purpose of altcoin mining you mine and dump to make money for your other projects.

This is  the most  commong things which most miners do especially to those  who mine altcoin which they mine and  dumps it  to gain money. Never intending to hold for sometime as  long theyll earn money they dont care.. I dont know why  zcash do have this kind of  price hype which is really insane and it cost even more to  thousands of bitcoin. As the topic says . So sorry for those  who bought zcash on expensive price.

soon as i say price will be 15-20$..and then stay at that price...
there soon new coins with same tech stuff that zcash offer with  alot low price + some other stuff offer that zcash cant at all..;)

It is obviously be hyped, that price is so untrue at the first!  :)

The exchanges never forced people to buy when the price was high... so you can't blame them

I think the bottom will be end at 0.04 BTC

Yeah and even more dump. Wewill see soon!

Coin has a good potential for pump-and-dump. All we need now - private high volume ZEC/BTC exchange.
 Some people has tons of dirty bitcoins, this could be a good way of laundering. Let's say Bitfinex hackers or other - can you imagine what will be with ZEC price if it absorbs 50k btc within short period, if now market cap is only 8mil. Explode
This causes a panic buys and increases liquidity so pamper could easily safe value and even get profits dumping from new ATH.

Then better do this with some coin you can make 1000%+ profit and not only 100%!
There is plenty better coins!
Look at LEOcoin! You can do miracle with your plane!+ coin offer 10-20% pos! 🙈😜👍🏼

1. Zerro knowledge proof. Main goal is to wash dirty bitcoins, not pump zcash
2. Potentially high liquidity. Zcash trading on major exchanges and promoting since 2011

soo you will be able to do it with a lot more cheap coin that give you a lot more back when you do it..;)

My, buy Zcash 20btc+ look my history
https://i.imgur.com/UwOwfDx.png

great,happy guy...somebody know how to trade,good!

There is more time . We have to wait at least a year .

After a year, if the ZCash can prove itself. The price could rise again. It has to be useful to somebody for people to buy it.

Right now it's all hype .there was a guy who posted that we should buy more,before the end of 2016,because the price will spike to $1000,can you imagine that a coin of out of nowhere beating bitcoin before the end of 2016,made me wanna think that it's in a bearish phase that they are hyping it again..

I think I will not buy more Zcash in anticipation the e$1000 price. I have sold quite a few at the price above $1000.

Soon we will be able to buy Zcash at 20$ or les!

people said this for Zcash before, then they said the same thing about ethereum not so long time ago then they said the same thing about another altcoin and another that we don't even remember their names anymore.

it is all the same story, they get pumped and fools buy and then they are forced to sell under priced because the dump happened by the whales.

Honestly, there are a lot of periods still being the dump session for a miner. We won't see the price will over $100 in a short time, It may take a year for solving the price of ZEC. and which means it can become the great choice for long-term investment and not for short profit.

i know some big big miners who sale every day what they mined...and i am sure most do it...

They must want to kill themselves now.

For the big miners, they have to sell most of the coins at present as they have bills to pay and the coin price is too low.

And that's why they must want to kill themselves.

That is right. So if a coin does not survive the first few months after the dump of the big farms, it is a dead coin.