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Title: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 10, 2016, 03:55:00 PM
https://bitfray.com

It’s here! Welcome to the beta launch of our new website!

How to:

Just add bitcoins to your Bitfray wallet and click "Join" or "Create game"

How to create new game:

1. Click on "Create new game".
2. Select your side - Gold or Silver.
3. Type amount how much you want to bet.
4. Click on "Create new game" button.
5. Wait for someone to join!

Join to game:

Click on "Joinbale", to spectate, click on the box of the specified game.

Minimum Bet = 0.001   /   Maximum Bet = No limit!
In order to maintain the website, we take a fee 2%

To keep our rounds fair and truly random, we utilize the provably fair system.

Demo of picking winner - https://www.bitfray.com/game.php?id=1

1 USD Welcome bonus!


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: panjul07 on November 10, 2016, 04:13:19 PM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 10, 2016, 04:22:29 PM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: abel1337 on November 10, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)
Too bad that we need a person just to make a gamble in youe site.Im suggesting if you will add bots in your game.The player will choose if human or bot is its enemy.

But the game is good. Good game for a gambling game.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: ikydesu on November 10, 2016, 04:58:07 PM
Clean site, have good interface too.

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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)
Too bad that we need a person just to make a gamble in youe site.Im suggesting if you will add bots in your game.The player will choose if human or bot is its enemy.

But the game is good. Good game for a gambling game.

No, bet with other player is have more fun than bet with bot. although provably fair has been implement.
I think the dev should add cancel game button, wait after 10 days and send support ticket is not good idea.

Probably add welcome bonus is good idea to attract people to join.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: raphma on November 10, 2016, 05:11:26 PM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)
sorry but that doesnt sound good... 10 days with your money "locked" plus the time needed to the support refund your money..
you should add bots like @abel1337 or at least a faster way to cancel the game and get back your money(in case nobody joins it)


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: leex1528 on November 10, 2016, 05:52:09 PM
You are telling me if I place a bet, and your site doesn't do well, or someone just doesn't join, I have to wait up to 10 days to get my money back???  WHAT?  No thanks.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: panjul07 on November 10, 2016, 05:56:30 PM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)

Are you sure we need to wait 10days? It sounds so bad, I think players will prefer to wait other players to create the game instead of creating a game and wait. If all people think the same then there will be no games.
You should have a cancel option on your game, give your players more freedom on what they want to do with their balance/game.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 10, 2016, 06:45:16 PM
Thanks everyone for advice!

"Cancel" button coming soon  ;D


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: rapazev on November 10, 2016, 07:21:18 PM
Very nice game! i'll be trying it!
what about a "anon betting" method? others sites allow you to play without sign up. That's a nice feature for gamblers.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 10, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
Very nice game! i'll be trying it!
what about a "anon betting" method? others sites allow you to play without sign up. That's a nice feature for gamblers.

Thank you! :)

We will see  ;) Thanks for advice!!





Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: luckylucky on November 10, 2016, 08:09:49 PM
Bitfray
we are working on something very interesting!
We will be back after 2hrs!


okay ready to wait and start playing :)


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 10, 2016, 09:18:54 PM
We are upgrading our servers to new ones and we lost about 10 user information, so if you cant login please register again  :)
All deposits are safe!!!!
Thank you!


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: Magisterek on November 10, 2016, 10:01:52 PM
U though at affilate, level system - or maybe achievments? When its add, 100% i play in this site


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 10, 2016, 10:09:44 PM
U though at affilate, level system - or maybe achievments? When its add, 100% i play in this site

Yes :) Next update - Affiliate system with exp and bonuses :)


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: Erza on November 11, 2016, 12:19:18 AM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)

You are going to lock our balance in 10 days? You think this well? Without bot and you are doing this thing, I dont think people will even try to place some low bets there because of your locking their money as 10 days without ane players joining the room.

And how about if people try to create a new game too? And what is the different between silver and gold? If there is no difference why bothering open 2 options for us to create room?


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: DarkStar_ on November 11, 2016, 12:43:51 AM
5% fee is equal to a 5% house edge. Why would I want to bet here with a higher house edge, delay in bet processing times (need to find someone to match with) and with a less trusted operator?

It's much easier an effective to bet on BitSler, Moneypot, CG, e.t.c and will have a greater EV vs betting here. The provably fair system also allows you to cheat an guarntee that you win. Maybe add a client seed thing which is based on the usernames of participants and tickets?


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: monbux on November 11, 2016, 01:08:31 AM
5% fee is equal to a 5% house edge. Why would I want to bet here with a higher house edge, delay in bet processing times (need to find someone to match with) and with a less trusted operator?

It's much easier an effective to bet on BitSler, Moneypot, CG, e.t.c and will have a greater EV vs betting here. The provably fair system also allows you to cheat an guarntee that you win. Maybe add a client seed thing which is based on the usernames of participants and tickets?
I guess they are probably trying to focus on the social aspect in gambling - might make it more appealing for some.
I agree though, a 5% fee is unheard of.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: maku on November 11, 2016, 01:21:15 AM
First of all I don't know how this game supposed to work so please explain how the following scenario, say - I bet 1 BTC on silver coin, someone joined and bet 0.01 on a Gold coin.

And then, if I lose the bet he will take my 1 BTC and when I win I will take his 0.01 BTC? How that is fair?

Also 5% House Edge/Fee/Tax/Whatever is definitely too much.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: jhenfelipe on November 11, 2016, 01:58:21 AM
Pretty neat site. It's good that it's already responsive. Whenever I reload the page, it is in default that chat box is open. I think it would be better if it's close in default and just let the user open it whenever he wants. In addition, it's boring when there are no players/active games on the site and it is quite hesitant to place a bet, unless cancelling the game quickly without sending a support ticket is already available.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: piebeyb on November 11, 2016, 02:01:48 AM
see the site looks to be better just to see it and play a little bit :)


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: maku on November 11, 2016, 02:38:41 AM
Pretty neat site. It's good that it's already responsive. Whenever I reload the page, it is in default that chat box is open. I think it would be better if it's close in default and just let the user open it whenever he wants. In addition, it's boring when there are no players/active games on the site and it is quite hesitant to place a bet, unless cancelling the game quickly without sending a support ticket is already available.
With new game concepts like this it would help to have testing version of the service. The best way is to enable players to play test without depositing anything.
For example, take a look at CoinRoyale - you don't have to deposit anything to check out functionality of every game on their site.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: jhenfelipe on November 11, 2016, 04:02:10 AM
Pretty neat site. It's good that it's already responsive. Whenever I reload the page, it is in default that chat box is open. I think it would be better if it's close in default and just let the user open it whenever he wants. In addition, it's boring when there are no players/active games on the site and it is quite hesitant to place a bet, unless cancelling the game quickly without sending a support ticket is already available.
With new game concepts like this it would help to have testing version of the service. The best way is to enable players to play test without depositing anything.
For example, take a look at CoinRoyale - you don't have to deposit anything to check out functionality of every game on their site.
Yes, I agree. I'm also expecting some promotions, play as a guest or free bets to try the site but there's none. Maybe if there is, players might be interested to test it out. I hope they can work on it too. I see that the owner/dev already has a future plans for improvement, if it will be implemented then it would be better.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 11, 2016, 12:06:20 PM
First of all I don't know how this game supposed to work so please explain how the following scenario, say - I bet 1 BTC on silver coin, someone joined and bet 0.01 on a Gold coin.

And then, if I lose the bet he will take my 1 BTC and when I win I will take his 0.01 BTC? How that is fair?

Also 5% House Edge/Fee/Tax/Whatever is definitely too much.

No if you bet 1 BTC opponet also need to bet 1 BTC against you :) He cant put more or less... If you win you will take his BTC witch is 1 BTC and after game you will have = 2 BTC


Pretty neat site. It's good that it's already responsive. Whenever I reload the page, it is in default that chat box is open. I think it would be better if it's close in default and just let the user open it whenever he wants. In addition, it's boring when there are no players/active games on the site and it is quite hesitant to place a bet, unless cancelling the game quickly without sending a support ticket is already available.

Now it's close in default :) Thank you! About cancel button, we are working on it, we dont want to players create game and after 1-2min justs closed it, probably cancel button will appear after 1 day.

About 5% fee - We gonna changed to 2%  ;) And with affiliate system there will be "Free coins" page to get some free coins!

And we now that there is a lot dice games etc, but we want to make gambling bit more interesting, not just playing against computer :)

Thanks, everyone for your suggestions  ;)


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: BTCevo on November 11, 2016, 03:13:35 PM
First of all I don't know how this game supposed to work so please explain how the following scenario, say - I bet 1 BTC on silver coin, someone joined and bet 0.01 on a Gold coin.

And then, if I lose the bet he will take my 1 BTC and when I win I will take his 0.01 BTC? How that is fair?

Also 5% House Edge/Fee/Tax/Whatever is definitely too much.

No if you bet 1 BTC opponet also need to bet 1 BTC against you :) He cant put more or less... If you win you will take his BTC witch is 1 BTC and after game you will have = 2 BTC

Why you make this kind of bet? Dont think that people really want this way of bet though. You should make it fair by letting any number can be bet but with some condition of minimal bet. Although both player will not be disadvantage, you should make this condition

Let say A place 1 btc and B place 2 btc, if:
A wins A will get 2 btc
B wins B will get total of 3 btc then
but if:
A loses A will lose 1 btc
B loses B will lose exactly the number of A bets. So May be this will be fair enough


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 11, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
Good idea, but we not gonna change our system, because its 100% fair, and we don't see any reasons to change it!  :) Its not dice where you can change your % of win, here both players have 50%



Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: eternalgloom on November 11, 2016, 04:38:11 PM
Good idea, but we not gonna change our system, because its 100% fair, and we don't see any reasons to change it!  :) Its not dice where you can change your % of win, here both players have 50%


Maybe it will work in your advantage to do it that way, there already are enough dice sites to begin with.
Your site looks nice, with some promotion you'll certainly have some active players soon.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: panjul07 on November 11, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
First of all I don't know how this game supposed to work so please explain how the following scenario, say - I bet 1 BTC on silver coin, someone joined and bet 0.01 on a Gold coin.

And then, if I lose the bet he will take my 1 BTC and when I win I will take his 0.01 BTC? How that is fair?

Also 5% House Edge/Fee/Tax/Whatever is definitely too much.

No if you bet 1 BTC opponet also need to bet 1 BTC against you :) He cant put more or less... If you win you will take his BTC witch is 1 BTC and after game you will have = 2 BTC

Why you make this kind of bet? Dont think that people really want this way of bet though. You should make it fair by letting any number can be bet but with some condition of minimal bet. Although both player will not be disadvantage, you should make this condition

Let say A place 1 btc and B place 2 btc, if:
A wins A will get 2 btc
B wins B will get total of 3 btc then
but if:
A loses A will lose 1 btc
B loses B will lose exactly the number of A bets. So May be this will be fair enough

If this will be implented then the min bet amount should be at least 10% of the available game. Lets say the available game is 1btc, then other player who want to join should bet at least 0.1btc . If the minimum bet is too small then it will be bad for the one who create big game. It does not make sense if someone bet 0.001btc on 1btc game.
For now, I think they should keep the game like what the want. If players want to bet then they should bet the same amount.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: rapazev on November 11, 2016, 06:00:01 PM
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5. Wait for someone to join!

How if there is no one join on a game that I make? Lets say I create a new game with big amount but no one join after several hours/days or even weeks?
It will be cancelled after some period of time? Or it will stay there? Just wondering if no one join after several days and I want to use the btc for other things. Can I cancel or close the game if no one join?

No, you cant cancel the game! But after 10 days you can write support ticket to cancel the game and we gonna refund you 100% back :)

You are going to lock our balance in 10 days? You think this well? Without bot and you are doing this thing, I dont think people will even try to place some low bets there because of your locking their money as 10 days without ane players joining the room.

And how about if people try to create a new game too? And what is the different between silver and gold? If there is no difference why bothering open 2 options for us to create room?
He already said the cancel will come. i've said the same thing :D


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on November 11, 2016, 11:28:38 PM
I think you didn't get idea!

Gold and Silver side is same as "Heads or Tails", website concept is pretty simple!

Example from real life: 2 people (Bob and John) want to make bet, both of them put money for example 1 USD each, so bank now bank is = 2 USD
Bob thinks it will be: Tails
John thinks: Heads
They make a bet, who will guess the coin side after flip will win bank = 2 USD

So if someone is flipping the coin, and it lands on Heads, then the winner is - John, who won bank = 2 USD


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: JasonXG on November 25, 2016, 07:25:41 PM
Not too bad. Fairly good idea having PvP much better then boring bots and no need to prove if it is fair or not either so that is great. Now I think you should have some promotions to increase activity in this thread. Then it will help you gain popularity on your site.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on January 19, 2017, 09:32:39 PM
Update:

Now you can cancel your game after 24 hours!


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: piebeyb on January 19, 2017, 10:08:37 PM
Update:

Now you can cancel your game after 24 hours!
yeah it was cool I was waiting for it to cancel the game, happy to get the latest news, cheers


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: quit_gambling_for_good on January 20, 2017, 05:40:13 AM
nice update, really good for players to be able to cancel the game, need more better updates for this site to attract more players


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: iram3130 on January 20, 2017, 06:59:42 AM
New Idea..!!
Good design and provably fair.
I would suggest a display of the total number of users registered and Number of users Online. It will give the user an idea of the wait time and also a feel of craving to play more.


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2017, 09:55:18 AM
Thanks everyone for advice!

"Cancel" button coming soon  ;D


Ahaah
Yeah good idea xD
Well you had a good reaction though.
Maybe playing with human is a  bit of a problem... against the bank  would be easyer. Or both !
But you might not have the needed bankroll that's it?


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: cengsuwuei on January 20, 2017, 11:36:51 AM
this good site youre service in player vs player
but youre site only support one gme coinflip gold and silver
if youre site many game, poker, blackjack and more, i think can inraese gambler join youre site


Title: Re: Bitfray.com - Bitcoin coinflip duel arena
Post by: bitfray on February 23, 2017, 05:22:13 PM
To test how website works now you can redeem 1 USD for free - https://www.bitfray.com/freecoins