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Title: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Masha Sha on November 14, 2016, 10:12:05 PM
What the fuck, they adopt the us C and BoR, I wouldn't ask... but alliance... risking Americans lives for anti americans... no way.

then having a debarkment zone to wage war on the mainland in a hypotetical war, the western european buffer, why not. As long as they put in their little shitty mind who are the boss.

Americans 1st.

I rarely comment about mainland europe because it's useless... they are too stupid, arrogant, and don't love America, or at least MY AMERICA.

I have BIG problems with most nato members. the major being they don't want to adopt the us and bor and aren't interested in the values embedded in it.

fuck nato (sometimes the simple words are the best). what is that? European vacations  ;D?

I would need to write a book on the subject, however I prefer to interest me to places where real change is possible, where a brighter future is possible.

and there are the catholics... rhhhhhaaaaa... all the ennemies of mankind come from europe (jesuits, massons, pope !!!!).

(btw you see how my mind is less clear now :D)... dangerous dangerous.

the all point Trump is right. When in Irak USA DID IT. UBL USA DID IT. DEFEAT NAZISM USA DID IT DEFEAT EUROPEAN POWERS USA DID IT LIBERATE CHINA USA HELPED :D... and most importantly USA freed itself from europe...

America doesn't need alliance (or at least my America), haven't you seen the picture?

when the statue of liberty starts to wear her death masks, China and Russia are always happy to be on the right side of history... and they were.



Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: tetrisbattle on March 02, 2017, 02:45:56 PM
most of the people have a eyes of racist


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: GreenBits on March 02, 2017, 03:30:23 PM
Can we really claim America first, in a global community?
This populism has to stop. When did we reject the notion of goodwill to our neighbors? While I agree the security of a nation should be it's foremost priority, at what point do we stop looking out for ourselves and start helping those around as that have less, in order to advance the whole? 

We don't and can't exist in a vacuum. We barely produce the products we consume. We can take this isolationist stance, and the majority seems to support it, but I will go on record as saying I think it will end badly. Far be it from me to reject the will of the people. But when this goes south, I want the parties responsible to eat 100 percent of the blame.


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: philggg on March 02, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
Personally I don't think NATO are racist because it was set up after the 2nd war war,to protect the European by most the German who invaded Europe ,you will find out that the European hard a highest casualty during the war


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 02, 2017, 08:57:07 PM
To the OP,

were you on drugs when you made your often contradictory post here?

At no point do you even attempt to prove "racial" point to NATO (what would that make of mullato Obama, many jewish mods or participation of MUSLIM Turkey, I have no idea), only babbling about something that can only be described as "euro-devil is keeping mah America down". Well, NATO was started by american administration in the first place. To galvanize euro-american partnership, counter communism and yes, even to solidify dominant position of United States as a leader of the West.

Withdrawal of the United States would end the pact obviously, as it is the US administration that directs (and obviously also largely pays) the circus.



Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 02, 2017, 09:00:53 PM
Can we really claim America first, in a global community?
This populism has to stop. When did we reject the notion of goodwill to our neighbors? While I agree the security of a nation should be it's foremost priority, at what point do we stop looking out for ourselves and start helping those around as that have less, in order to advance the whole? 

We don't and can't exist in a vacuum. We barely produce the products we consume. We can take this isolationist stance, and the majority seems to support it, but I will go on record as saying I think it will end badly. Far be it from me to reject the will of the people. But when this goes south, I want the parties responsible to eat 100 percent of the blame.

Nationalism is completely natural, in fact correct way to protect depleting resources in very competetive environment such as "global community". The thing here is, that OP doesnt know what he is talking about. NATO more often than not acted as white horse, a shield, that protected good prestige of US citizens in very questionable conflicts around the world. It is helping interests of US elites (so fucking what, if poor white trash or brown people from Alabama die in service, we are talking big money), which is precisely why United States founded and keeps funding NATO seven decades on.



Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 03, 2017, 02:06:22 AM
Personally I don't think NATO are racist because it was set up after the 2nd war war,to protect the European by most the German who invaded Europe ,you will find out that the European hard a highest casualty during the war

You are completely wrong about that. NATO was founded in 1949, to counter the USSR and its satellite states such as Poland and Bulgaria. And how can you call it racist, when one of the major members is Turkey?


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: signature200 on March 03, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
Personally I don't think NATO are racist because it was set up after the 2nd war war,to protect the European by most the German who invaded Europe ,you will find out that the European hard a highest casualty during the war

You are completely wrong about that. NATO was founded in 1949, to counter the USSR and its satellite states such as Poland and Bulgaria. And how can you call it racist, when one of the major members is Turkey?
I will tell you, when NATO intervened in the war in Yugoslavia that their troops were on the side of the Muslims. This only proves that NATO is racism irrelevant.


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Xester on March 03, 2017, 11:49:40 AM
What the fuck, they adopt the us C and BoR, I wouldn't ask... but alliance... risking Americans lives for anti americans... no way.

then having a debarkment zone to wage war on the mainland in a hypotetical war, the western european buffer, why not. As long as they put in their little shitty mind who are the boss.

Americans 1st.

I rarely comment about mainland europe because it's useless... they are too stupid, arrogant, and don't love America, or at least MY AMERICA.

I have BIG problems with most nato members. the major being they don't want to adopt the us and bor and aren't interested in the values embedded in it.

fuck nato (sometimes the simple words are the best). what is that? European vacations  ;D?

I would need to write a book on the subject, however I prefer to interest me to places where real change is possible, where a brighter future is possible.

and there are the catholics... rhhhhhaaaaa... all the ennemies of mankind come from europe (jesuits, massons, pope !!!!).

(btw you see how my mind is less clear now :D)... dangerous dangerous.

the all point Trump is right. When in Irak USA DID IT. UBL USA DID IT. DEFEAT NAZISM USA DID IT DEFEAT EUROPEAN POWERS USA DID IT LIBERATE CHINA USA HELPED :D... and most importantly USA freed itself from europe...

America doesn't need alliance (or at least my America), haven't you seen the picture?

when the statue of liberty starts to wear her death masks, China and Russia are always happy to be on the right side of history... and they were.



It seems you are also a racist. Dont you know that Catholics are all around the world and in different countries and its members are not all Europeans. You defended America yet you dont know the thousands of people who died at the hands of Americans. Before the Americans civilized America they massacred thousands of native American Indians without mercy but we never called American killers and we respected them. If you want to change the world you must change yourself.


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Forester618 on March 03, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
I would not accuse NATO of racism. The military bloc very often is to protect the Muslims. It seems to me that lately a lot of attention is paid to racial issues. It's not so much contributing to the fight against racism much the opposite incites racism.


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 03, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
Xester,

of course you are completely right. People who attribute racialism to completely unrelated things (ie. fashion, or in this case power politics) are usually race obsessed themselves. Masha Sha seems to fall into that category.

Also, he has this weird idea that Americans somehow constitute racial category of their own. Which is false, biologically and perhaps even culturally.


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Lancusters on March 04, 2017, 01:46:32 AM
Xester,

of course you are completely right. People who attribute racialism to completely unrelated things (ie. fashion, or in this case power politics) are usually race obsessed themselves. Masha Sha seems to fall into that category.

Also, he has this weird idea that Americans somehow constitute racial category of their own. Which is false, biologically and perhaps even culturally.
I think this is a Putin Troll. Putin has always feared and hated NATO. Trump gave a reason to talk about racism in America and the Russian immediately take the opportunity to blame all the wrongs of NATO.


Title: Re: Is Nato "racist"?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 04, 2017, 05:57:42 AM
Personally I don't think NATO are racist because it was set up after the 2nd war war,to protect the European by most the German who invaded Europe ,you will find out that the European hard a highest casualty during the war

You are completely wrong about that. NATO was founded in 1949, to counter the USSR and its satellite states such as Poland and Bulgaria. And how can you call it racist, when one of the major members is Turkey?
I will tell you, when NATO intervened in the war in Yugoslavia that their troops were on the side of the Muslims. This only proves that NATO is racism irrelevant.

That has been the policy of NATO ever since its foundation. The NATO is an alliance of Sunni Muslims and Catholics, against the Orthodox Christians. This is very evident from their military involvements in Kosovo, Macedonia, and Bosnia.