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I'm not a fan of gambling by itself, but instead as a way of studying and learning about other things.  For instance, I'm sure that if elderly people kept playing card games, it would help keep their minds alert.  Studying poker involves studying human nature and probabilities.   There are other aspects like studying risk in gambling, which is like studying risk in investing. 

Does anyone have any examples of how gambling is like investing?

Gambling is never like investing if the tables are turned against you. It will always just be fpr fun and to try to win a fortune to spend on all the nice things you want. Ga!bling and investing are totally different

why would you invest, I think a lot of gambling game that looks easy enough you play it

I mean that he meant investing not only for a money gain ;)

Investing is basically a way to gain your money, there's no risk, just a small % profit or big % profit(usually big profit turn into scam in the end), its totally different from gambling which you used your money to afford to lose.

Studying human nature and probabilities with poker is have pretty true, but not is always true, people have their other side, actually its not accurate if you comparing used poker/similiar game, because human is completely complicated.

Gambling is life changing. Commiting gambling out of control may always lead to money lost. In investing on gambling, you must know how it works, isn't legal?, or findings from its users. Gambling makes profit otherwise money lost.

Easy doesnt mean that you can get a good profit though because this is gambling sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. That is already been like that so without having good bankroll better you can investing some or even trading though. Àre really believe that you can keep getting some profit on gambling? It is still profitable if you put some of your money through investment

No, investing still has the risk (same like my answer before on different thread), you could lossing your money when some lucky people won a lot in a site which you invested with high kelly.

Yes, all games are easy to play but not easy to win money in gambling. You need the luck to win money in gambling, so if you want to earn some profit, then you should choose to invest than gambling. I gamble only for fun sometimes and I invest to earn profit in the longer run.

Gambling is like investing when you use an arbitrage sports bet. Guaranteed profit (some investments are), with your only risk being the house running away (if you invest somewhere and they run, RIP funds), and it's usually a small amount of profit unlike gambling which is usually high risk/high reward.

Maybe staking someone good in poker, as you are getting others to gamble, but it's kind of like an investment (if they do well, you make a profit).


Completely OT.

Not only investors will have a chance of losing money in casino bankroll investments, but even you have risks in any other investments as well. So if you want to earn some profit from your money then you should take some risks to investing some places otherwise over the time your money will lose its value equivalent to your countries inflation.

All aspects of investing are in some way related, from collectibles (such as books), to stocks, to cryptocurrency, to forex.  Value investing is a good thing to study, it basically says something is long term financially worth what values/value it has.  Gambling doesn't really ever help anyone financially but people trying to make affiliate commissions/signature campaigns, or the casinos themselves.  One out of a million will win a lottery big enough to cover all the other tickets they buy.  I'm not saying it's not fun, but it's not like investing in its essence, just some things are related.

Always have a risk, if you plus that your are gambling with bitcoin and virtual the risk is even bigger.

Gambling is not like investing in any way and i also don't think gambling should be considered as thing to keep your minds alert, it rather create panic, fear as well as lots of disappointment if you are playing with real money. And if you are playing without any real cash than it can be considered as a way to pass your free time. ;)

gambling is just a game with money inside and its different than investing. investing is more like to make your money growth than before. but in the gambling site, i think you can make investing so you can make your money grow with the house.

When you invest in the house it's investing. You don't ever win in gambling in the long term. But if you invest into the house, you have a chance of growing your money in the long run.

Playing gambling  itself  is not  considered   as  an  investment   because   you are  risking  money  though  to earn  money  but  the  risk  of  lossing it  is  high.
Gambling would  be  an investment  when  you do  put  money  on the   house  itself but  we should  still  think that  investing  on these  gambling sites doesnt  guarantee you  anytime to make  profits because  there are really times which you dont gain  nothing  on a particular month.

gambling is never like investing and it will never be. because as long as you are involving money and taking risks that you can not predict it is not an investment in my opinion.

and what you say about elderly and playing card games as a gamble, it doesn't involve money and it is usually games like bingo and it is only for fun and as an entertainment so i think they can not be called gambling.

I guess this applies more to sports betting.  When you invest you always look for a lower price as a bargain to increase your profit and to decrease your loss.  So it's the buy low, sell high mantra that you always hear from the traders and investors around here.  In sports betting, it's almost the same thing when you shop around for good lines.  In one sports book some lines offer higher odds compared to others, so you have room to size your bet a bit smaller and win a slightly higher amount at the same time.  And there's also the instance where you bet and the line moves in favor of you by going lower. It means you got in the bet cheap.  While the reverse makes you in the bet at a bad price.

At least that's how I look at it.

i never like calling gambling an investment because it never is like it. but reading some of comments and in my experience i think in some cases you can think of it like investing because you are investing your money, time and experience in it.

for example when you are using a strategy to win and mostly when you are playing games that require more of your skills than your luck like sports betting you are kin of investing!

Yeah its like an investment, you didn't know whats the real score specially like when you're on a business many challenges to come and in gambling your challenge is how to stay in the game with few losses. If you lose more you result to fail on your investment and that's an emotional stress to you.

Lol wrong if you say that there is no risk pn investment, if the investment does not have a risk of course everyone does not need to work they only need to invest and enjoy the earning, it logically
I can say that all methods of growing bitcoin is at risk, including investing in gambling, perhaps you could invest in bankroll gambling site, you will invest and gamble in the same time

well I don't see the gambling as investing, it is true that through gambling we can learn about probabilities and risk management but it is just theory, when in the real game eventhough you can count the probability but you always rely on your luck, so I only see gambling as part of entertainment

I remember started gambling on poker game, felt so fun and got addicted of it.
Gambling is always risky for sure but it could be such investing if you change your role as bankroll instead of player.
It's gambling too and could lose if  you don't know where the best option to invest.

That's the fact in gambling but those gamblers are thinking that gambling is also investment. Because they are using their own money to grow it.

And it is making them think that gambling is an investment and that's why many are falling to addiction to it.

Because they wanted to get again their lose* investment as they play their favorite games.

That is 100% correct. Gambling end results depend on only luck, and no luck means no winning from gambling. What I think is instead of calculating all those theories just play for some time and enjoy the games, and if you're lucky, then you will win or think that you spent some money for enjoyment.

i am agree with this, and i think better we invest in the house because its more safe than we only playing gambling that will make us to get loss. beside that we can see that our investment is really work with the house.

I Think that Gambling is Like Investing When You Do Sports Betting Because in Sports Betting You Need to Use Your Skills Of Knowledge and Experience in Sports and Also You Need to Do Some Analysis in Sports Betting Before Putting a Bet On Any Event........
So I Think that Gambling is Like Investing in Sports Betting.........

Yeah this is correct. For me its better  to play gambling than investing into sites (Cloud mining,Hyips) Because even if you lose in a gambling game you have the experience playing it and you enjoy while playing. But if you invested on cloud mining or hyip their is a big chance that it will scam you and You cant Roi your in your investment

That's still always possibly 50-50 odds unless one team is great and one isn't, so I think it's not like investing.  People do lose in investing, but it's said to only put a small amount of your money in riskier investments and stay long term with the good ones.

Yes that is true and I agree on that but in the end house will always win. Dont you think? There is no way that they can open some gambling site without thinking about their profit. Unless they are going to scam us but in a long term they will always get some profit, it is only matter of time when they can get much

the only way its really like "investing" is if your the bookie.

If your charging the -110 over time with enough customers it then becomes an investment.
You just need to be able to handle the variance in the event a bunch of people get hot at the
wrong time.

Why gambling is mot an investing? I think with huge bankroll you can earn solid profit and this is increase your number of btc in no time though. Let say you have 1 btc and you try to earn lowest around 0.001-0.003 btc each day so in a month you will get 3%-6% a month. And this is solid profit. I am sure it is really easy to earn that low amount with using auch a big bankroll

It's investing when you are getting a great return in gambling, either you put your money in a certain gambling sites you wanted to invest or you are a skilled gambler where you can turn the tide to be in your favor. Professional gamblers who has a good record give their full time in gambling and they consider it as a work and they are also getting the benefits or great return but not all can do that even the majority.

You are talking about investing into bankroll casino's and I think that is different from gambling alone and investing into gambling sites. But that is a good type of investment but I think that gambling is like investing when you are putting a lot of your time, effort and money on it. And all you are putting there is already good to call as investment as you gamble.

You're totally wrong there, Investing to Cloudmining, HYIP/PONZI sites? You called that "investing"? i rather calling that "donate" your money in those sh*t scam sites., you'll get scammed 100%. Investing your money in trusted gambling/casino sites is one of best choice if you want try investing.

Gambling is risk seeking activity. While investors are usually seeking the best and safest projects, therefore minimizing and averting  the risk.
Face it - gamblers are no investors they are simply customers of gambling service which is usually designed to gain profits.

Op, you asked about theoretical side of gambling and math behind the games. Many bright people tried to find golden strategies and rules behind it.
And as we can see casinos are still standing strong. So if you think gambling might be a shortcut to become a millionaire - you are wrong.

I don't.  Most of them seem to get busted for something. 

The two are like the two poles North and South that do not have any connection aside the risk degree that is present in both. There is no level or length in which Gambling will turn into investment because in investment you are expecting a return which the chances of it coming is higher based on your own due diligence but in the case of gambling just don't go there if you are not ready to lose it.

Yeah at some point you are right but you might never know the future, although you played as investor on gambling site, you will lose too if some big whale suddenly win big amount of money. See moneypot, nottardy claimed 72 btc and after that moneypot set some limit to their max winning too. So to think about that investor always winning you are wrong. this is not matter of where to place your investment but you really need to take some risk when you want to gain something, higher risk will be better payout

almost there but some of your statement is not true, investment has also a risk as you are not very sure if you will be gaining profit or not and/or it will be a big profit or just a small . you are right though but even investments with small profits are turning into scam as well, investment and gambling has the similarity to each other when it comes to risk has a lot of difference in concept I guess .

Gambling isn't really like investing, maybe vice versa. Investing your EV is usually positive while gambling it's not.

Gambling is only like investing if you only half sure of s risky investment and the risk and rewsr is the same. It ia a bad idea to habe an investment with a risk to that of gambling too.

Gambling is a risky business to invest it is not a like its a business who are starting a business we can prefer to call it investment too..
But it is not the same investment like minor that you invest in altcoin just hold it for a long time and sell it in the right time.
Its too risky because if some hacks your business or someone win a large amount you will lose..
Gambling risky for almost all investment.. because many people are gamble..

they are different but the risk may be almost the same, both have the same risk of large, investment may be little need knowledge to earn profit, in contrast to gamble ?
I wanted to ask you, invest in bankroll of gambling site, is it included in gambling?

Normally investing is more favorable then gambling.
In real world markets investments have many factors to help earn you a gain.
Gambling 99% of the time people are losing in the long run except a few of the lucky ones.

I think you understood wrong about gambling because here risk and reward are not same but the risk is higher than reward. Your losing percentage is much greater than winning due to house edge and end results depend mostly on only luck. So don't gamble to make a profit but just gamble for fun and enjoy those games.

gambling is not invest . gamblin is a betting where there is only win and lost, if you win increase your bitcoin and if you lost your bitcoin gone i think gambling will neve like investing

I guess it's important to know when to stop when the stock/coin raises.  Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered.   In gambling, you don't have that choice.  You just lose. 

What you are telling is very true about in poker games as it is played according to the opposite players against strategy. And gambling like investing is that you can say of sports betting where you can analyse about the teams and their strategy and matches of both teams their previous performance. So like their their are lot of way you can prepare your report and come to conclusion of their next result of match.

Gambling is like investing is when you invest in gambling site where you are not playing but your money is their in the site and if a gambler wins high then that loss will be shared by the investors and if their is profit same it will be shared by investors. so this is also called a way of gambling in Investing

Correct, gambling shouldn't be called as an investment instead it is just a paid entertainment for gamblers. These are just an exciting games but need to pay a fee to play these games, and you have a chance to win big if you're lucky. But that winning happens very rarely because most gamblers will play for longer time and end up losing back all money to gambling houses.

I'm a quite confused with you question, gambling is totally different with investing even some gambling site accept investment but that's not gambling due in investing you can get fixed income from shared profit.

TO sum it all up

Investing

Trading Stocks
Buying ICOs
Putting your BTC on loans
etc


Gambling

Poker
Dice
Roulette
etc

There are huge differences between the two. The first one is less risk and lower reward. The second one is the opposite.

i think it is best if you don't consider gambling as an investment, not even if you make money from it.
that way you can experience the fun part of gambling a lot more than the stress and the bad feeling of small loss when you are trying so hard to earn money from it.

but with that said you can start trying sports betting so that you have a better chance at having a better win

So are you extremely foreign? Or just dull? I kind of understand what you are saying but then you drop the "Gambling risky for almost all investment.. because many people are gamble.." wtf does that mean. Are you saying that Gambling is risky because a lot of people gamble? I'm pretty sure a lot of people invest as well, that doesn't make the investment more risky. Gambling by nature is more risky than investing, but why do you say because many people are gamble. It doesn't make sense to me even if you are ESL.

I don't agree that in investment one will get less profit because in the long run one will more much more profit than gambling profits. In the longer run most of the people will lose their money in gambling, but in investments, one will get much better profits.

It's nothing like investing mate. It never will...
Although you can invest in gambling site.

Gambling is majorly based on your luck. But yes if you are highly intelligent in calculation then you have a chance in making a hell lot of money.

I think it will be the same as an investment, you also could have lost money on an investment and you can also benefit. the difference may be that investment will take a little your skills in selecting a company or a place to invest, while gambling using a pure on luck, some time ago I asked is it to invest in gambling, including gambling sites or not?
because of the profit will depend on the luck of the player right?

Investing in a gambling website is different than gambling because in that case the house edge is on your side, not against you.

Investing in gambling to play is not profitable unlike to invest in gambling site which will give you profit it is like buying stocks in one.company.

Gambling is a playing game not investing so you can't expect any profit from gambling but if you're lucky then sometimes you may get some profit. But investing is for increasing our profit over the time so investing is always good to grow your money and I don't call gambling is an investing.

I agree that this is not profitable but sometimes people with great gambling skill will gain his/her profit from it in the passion he enjoyed most. Certain situation when winning in a jackpot game will bring you profit at all and we cannot deny the risk is always involved on it. Investing on gambling is not that easy for me because it may lead you to addiction and may lead to loss of savings, many happened that to people to loss of properties like they pawned their house or businesses due to gambling as they failed to pay their pawned amount which resulted to loss their wealth at all. So to say a simple words for it, be a responsible gambler and at the same time an investor.

The definition of gamble from google is this : play games of chance for money. The definition invest from dictionary.com is this:to put (money) to use, by purchase or expenditure, in something offering potential profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value. So every time you are  betting you are investing. The trick is if your investments are smart. And in gambling since you never really know due to chance, its not a good investment lol, at least in most cases.

Well if you mean it is like investing in your health then yes I have an example. A friend of mine was suffering panic attacks and when he started playing poker online they all gone almost comletely. Yes, he loses some money playing poker online, but it's nothing compared to what he paid doctors before or to how much he was spending on medications.

Gambling is have an investment also and it depends to the people on how they would look up for this one since gambling can be also called game, many people selects to invest at them and some other who are afraid to lose is joined and put some money to the house so they can get some percentage on their investment, and you can locate the gambling investment at security section where mostly of them are unto that section offering people to be their partner.

are you serious? So he feels better when he gambles? I feel like that can be a breathtaking scientific discovery. I actually don't find that strange, there is probably a link in the brain between anxiety (panicking due to not being sure of the future) and gambling (not having control of the future). Maybe it teaches him to relax and not care so much about things that he has no control over. hmm really cool.

There is nothing like that, gambling always end up badly if you keep on continuing it and how can you compare gambling to some medication? Of course health is really important in your life but there is nothing if you compare it to this kind of thing. And how is that possible to cure disease just by gambling poker, if this is for real so there wont be any sick people around the world. Really doesnt make any sense




Afraid to lose in gambling? in gambling world there always be winners and losers though, if you are no familiar with those things better dont start gambling though, although you can lose in some investment though. There are many people already lose some on investment, they just dont brag it out

yeah provably it is, truly im afraid to lose thats why i have couple of investments to other trusted gambling site out there and i cant afford to lose thats why i select that option so i will not play and hoping to win on gamblings, but you can overcome losses if you truly do some good research upon when you are gonna put your money, great research is the best thing we need to do so we cannot suffer losses, and so far i get great responses and little percentage wich is decent to me,

Chances are 1 is to 100 based on my own view but still possible. It's not about curing the disease 100%, it's a damn thing to think about that, but giving a positive shock in the brain resulting to "impossible" output.

You know there is a so called event where people find some comfortability about a certain thing. In terms of health related problems, that is the missing link. It's not an assurance obviously that they can surpass the health problems but certainly makes a person feel happy and comfortable doing it. No need to believe though if on your own view it doesn't make any sense. It's just that there is an event like that and we have nothing to do with it.

Honestly i think something like what Betwrong stated happens.  This is called distraction/diversion of attention..  So instead of focusing the persons mind in panic or something that triggers him to have a panic attack, he jus occupy his minds with something else to do. 
Same treatment had been implemented to gambling addicts by simply spending their time and attention to focus on other things and to avoid gambling.

But I don't agree that gambling is an investment in any way. It is just a game, and one can enjoy these games for fun. If you think that by playing these games you can earn more money then that is completely wrong. You need to spend money for playing these game but don't expect any money from these games.

Gambling becomes place for investing if i have business of gambling my self, i have read many opinions from users on here, mostly gamblers play gambling are for entertainment and fun, they didn't played for looking for profit or money. And i don't find best guides for making profit on gambling especially dice gambling.

Still when you own gambling business, you are running a business not just investing. First of all we need to have a proper definition for what is "investing".
As long as we are having chances to earn from gambling why not we consider it is as an investment option. Usually investments comes with risk, with gambling the risk is really huge, I believe that's the actual differences.

logically correct if we played gambling we must keep in mind that we are risking our money and it should be the amount that we are ready to let go since gambling is really addicting better yet we need to keep some assessment that it cant' be called investment because anytime we can possibly lose and keep losing without a regain.

many believe that gambling is like an investment but if you look at their history and how much they have lost versus how much they have gained you can clearly see that it is not possible to treat gambling as an investment and it wouldn't be wise to do so only because of the risk it has associated with it.

if you can get a fix on the games you play, find a fool proof strategy (which doesn't exist) or exploit then it is an investment :)

You can't make money from any gambling games not only from dice games because these are made to have a fun and not to bring you money. But gambling houses will make a money from these sites and gamblers will always lose money in gambling.

When you win hehe

If you let greed will prevail on you surely you cannot make profits on gambling,  but if you will satisfy for little profits surely you can earn on gambling if you are experienced player on the site where you playing on, we shouldn't stay for such along time in gambling since it can actually make us lose, gambling is for just short time fun only and we shouldn't not point it as area to get profits so we cant expect more and turned lose.

Definitely, this defines the same time gambling as profitable since most likely gambling houses wins.  An article that I read discuss about gambling being profitable , then said straight that to make it happen, one should put a gambling house to have a share on the billiond dollar industry of gambling and entertainment.

For those who don't have huge fund, this kind of things is done by simply investing in casino houses and enjoy the profit .  This makes gambling as an investment.

Gambling and investing has their own risk but when gambling, you're do it overtime & directly meanwhile when you decide to invest, you already aware that gambling site has great potential for investation profit. Just do not gamble & invest more than you can afford to lose

Gambling can never be considered as a investment, because with investment you have assured pay back after certain time period but with gambling nothing is assured. So in my view gambling can be considered a earning source and not as a pure investment.

Your wrong, gambling can't be considered as a earning source because it is meant for just a fun and entertainment purpose. You should go to gambling when you need some enjoyment and if you want to grow your money then should find some good investment options, not gambling.

Not all investments come with fixed profit assurances like investing in share market, bitcoins, casino house bankrolls etc., All these investments come with some risks, and in the longer term, we have better chances of making profits from these investments. If you want a fixed profit, then only one can give FD and interest rates will be very small.

for regular users who have not dedicated their lives to gambling it can never be an earning source. and most people are like this, it is only for entertainment purposes. the only way you can make profit from gambling is to get lucky and that doesn't happen every day or if you are a professional gambler like those big Poker players who do it for living.

But why he must gambling so he can calm down? Does not make sense though, there is tons of activity that you can focus on. And if you are doing gambling, you have far more worse thing if later you addicted to gambling. But meanwhile if you make some investment may be you will have chance to get some profot for this treatment so it is much better than you distract it by gambling

There are many threads like this one on Gambling Discussion.

You can never be sure that you will get back what you have invested...
In this case, gambling is much more transparent. You instantly see if you won or lost.

Well I will not agree with you. I invested in a gambling casino site and I got it back plus the interest. I don't think gambling can make your money back since you can lose if you are not lucky. Rather than passively wait for your profit in investing in a legit bitcoin casino gambling site. Well if you are looking for legit casino site. You can message me and I will tell what bitcoin casino site I am investing.

I think you misunderstood about this thing though, gambling is sure like investing though but with higher risk to get back what you desire. It is not always that you can get your money because of the risk but if you can outcome that risk you will get more better payout mean while if you only investing with some small amount I dont think that you can get some penny from investment

Yeah he misunderstands that investment will give assured pay back after investing. No, it is not the right way he thinks.

All types of investments are risky and it depends on the investor on how he will take the risk and willing to accept the fact that he will lose.

The same thing in gambling, it is risky. You have the chance to win and lose, gambling is just like investing your money the way you want it and to risk it higher.

Gambling will give you instant pleasure with your money, but investing takes the time to show the results. Investing is a better option if you're looking for good returns from your money, but the only thing is you should find a good trusted sites and products to invest your money.

Investing for me is when you were able to minimize the risk and maximize your chances, still there's a risk, right? So, the activity of gambling alone is too risky for me since you are playing against the house advantage, the only way you can turn things to be in your favor is when you own a gambling site or invest in existing gambling sites.

So there's something similar between investing and gambling right? - there's risk in both,of course usually in gambling the risk is at a lot higher level but in the same time there's nothing to guarantee you that the investment you've made won't end with a loss either, so there's not a simple answer...I guess.

It looks you made things to complicated in your post and now looks difficult to understand. Gambling is not a investment because it is fun activity like going movies or pub etc., so there you need to spend money get the entertainment or fun. But investment is for growing your money and these investments will have some risks but we must take those risks to grow our money.

That's somewhat true. However for many professional gamblers who do it for a living, they probably don't consider gambling fun but boring since they do it on a daily basis. And the same is true for investing. Some people trade stocks and find it boring while others do it and find it fun.

Completely agreed  with you adaseb!
If you're good at something there's no reason you shouldn't take advantage of that or even make a living of it!
I'm not saying gambling and investing are identical things...but how will it sounds to a professional gambler the statement "gambling is just for fun"?

It's only when you invest in a gambling site you might consider gambling as investment. No way should you think gambling can be an earning source. People who think like that end up losing everything. And by the way even investing in a gambling site might be risky so your profit after certain time period is not guaranteed anyway.

Even if you invest money on any gambling bankroll it is not a gambling but you're still investing and it is just a different way of investment. Gambling games are just to have fun and not for earning money instead we need to spend money to play these games. So investing and gambling both are completely different not same.

There had been some argument that investing is gambling itself, but it was cleared that this two things are different.  In form of investment there are some categories that can be labeled as investment.  You can either invest your money or your time and effort.   With gambling, it become an investment if you spend your time learning the curve of the game and making use of the experience to apply it to the future event.  This kind of thing can be apply to skill / strategy based gambling games.

But still, those skill based games called gambling, not an investment. The reason the result still depends on luck. Investing is in any business is different from playing games. If you want to earn money then gambling is not the right place for sure.

I don't think that even those professional players can live with only from gambling earnings. Because it is very hard for one to win continuously in gambling and if one lose money then they may play again and again to recover those losses and end up losing all their earlier earnings.

the only time one could call gambling investment is when you invest into casino bankrolls
you are both gambling and investing same time
your gamble is that the house will beat the players and make you profit,there are chances that you lose
albeit very slim ones in the long run
other than that,gambling is gambling and investment is investment no matter how you explain the terms and try to
merge the differences

Then you are wrong, because most of pro players really depends on gambling and they claim that only poker games that can bring back into good profit. And the money stake is really good on a long run, but not all people can make this happens because it really need a lot of experience before you can become a pro gambler

yes it is true and both have different significance and would not be same even have similar risk but gambling engage luck as a part of them and investment is pure how to putting your money into investment sites or physical investment but from profit side investment is more profitable if doing it right without mistakes and i mean investing only for legit sites or only for trustworthy investment

We cannot really say that investment is more profitable from solely gambling since we still cannot asure to earn some profits on both risk is still their and i can say that its 50-50 chances for us to earn on both aspects,  but although investment got in favor with this one since we only need to put our money on the gambling site to earn rather than playing that we will get some hard time to get the pot and win.

There are some gamblers here that actually making profit in investing to bankrolls and i think there is no problem to try it weather you making profit or not.. many gambling casino online right now are offering investment into bankroll and earn few percentage for every bet win or lose..
I saw some reviews here and actually he made nearly 1 btc in different in 5 different gambling casino he already made a review and some of them are actually not profitable unless it can drain your investment.. So it is still both risky but if you are wise and experiment and try every gambling casino you can experience if what site that fits to you that are actually making profit and paused the other bank rolls that not making profit to you..
Every thing needs to try because sometimes every review here online are not perfect so experience is one of the good thing to decide if where you can invest that can give you profit..
Unlike in gambling or you gamble your money you have more chance to be lose than to win or honestly if gamble for long time you will lose in the end..
This is almost all gamblers are happen in the end.  So for me they are not the same chances it is more profitable if you study every gambling casino..

true yeah you're right you can do gambling and investing simultaneously, namely by investing in bankroll gambling site, because when you invest in the bankroll you should need luck to be able to get a profit, you have to compete luck with the players that they could lose and you can obtain a profit, this investment will be the same as gambling #IMO

Investors no need to compete with gamblers luck in gambling investments because most of the time house is the one going to win money. But if you worry that you may lose money then diversify your money and invest in few good sites then your chances of losing money will reduce in these investments.

Gambling will turn like an investment if you join as bankroll, little risk than just play the games. There are some people already join as bankroll in some sites and the results they get profits and sometimes get loss.
We know that gambling is risky as hell and only a few of people could really make big profits or constantly get winnings compare to their losses, they are expert gamblers which spent years to studying and practices gambling so they know how to win it, I mean in the game that need skills and knowledge not kind of games that only depends on luck.

Irs not investing . In gambing you can win or lose while ininvesting if you invest in not scam sites you can earn surely.

even in investing the earning part is not surely. you always have a certain level of risk and you have to accept the risks in investments to be successful.

but risk never means gambling and that is why nobody in the world call gambling an investment apart from the gambling addicts out there.

As i can say you can rely on investment, this is gambling investment that you are putting your money on and gambling is some business so of course they dont want to lose some big money right? So if you have big money to invest i will suggest you to put on gambling investment, may be you will lose some but in the end you will always get some profit. May be if you want to play and try some luck you can even do it but sometimes luck not with us and our greed is too huge to bet on everything, this is a risky thing to do unless you can control yourselves

But it still depends on your timing and on how much bankroll you do have to make sure you are profitable though. And we never know that particular site is going to scam us, there is nothing that we can do to prevent this thing from happening, we can only do some research on particular site before we put some money to their investment though

Most of those sites don't scam but many of them just don't have enough investors and they can easily be emptied by a huge large whale. That's why whenever a new gambling site goes alone, we ask it to prove if they have enough funds to pay investors. Because many of these new sites have less than 10 BTC in capital and yet they accept bets up to 10 BTC, and in that case how will they pay their gamblers balances?

Gambling will never be like investing because when you invest you need to do a carefully analysis of whatever you want to invest in, in gambling this is not the case, you can play dice without knowing much about the game and the odds of winning does not change at all.

Gambling into investment has real difference and i don't considered gambling is like investing, they have deposited address provided you can you can't start without amount into your account. I learn more about gambling this is more interesting than investment most of investment website are scam when they have enough investors or huge amount to scam. In gambling your mind will more fasten it also help your mind to be alert to think fast aswell.

How about sports betting and poker? You need to have analysis with it too and many are also using gambling as tool for their investment. And as long as an individual is putting out some money and allocates it to gambling then that's consider as investment because you are risking your bitcoins with it. The trend today is investing with bankroll casino's.

I don't agree entirely that any of the gambling methods are called as investments because those are just a games and in games, there is no guaranty that you will make profits and it totally depends on only luck. Investments will give some profit over the time but in gambling over the time one will surely lose money.

Actually gambling can never became  investment , Still we can consider it as investment . But actually Both are famous for their risk of 100% ( matter of trust and market ).
So I will suggest you never consider gambling as investment And also in my opinion it can't be investment .

 this is a common mistake that i have seen many bitcoin gamblers make, they think if they can make money from anything then they can call that thing an investment.

investment is when you put your money in a business that gives you return based on real world applications. and the risk and rewards of it are always clear enough and can be assessed.

but with gambling or any other way like what some people do with HYIPs you can never many any kind of assessment about the risks and rewards. it is all random and based on luck. even in games that are mostly based on your skills (eg sports betting and poker) you are still relying on luck and you can never predict your loss/profit.

When you can say that you earn something from gambling every day. Even if it's a small amount and that you ensure you are earning and not losing your bankroll. Or you could also invest in the casino itself. It may not be profitable in the short run, but surely it will be in the long-term.

Aside from the fact that you are risking money, there is nothing more that gambling and investing share in common. Everything in gambling is relying on chance or luck. Everything in investing relies on careful analysis of data.

You can say that you earn something when you are gaining from your gambling investments like depositing in bankroll casino's.

And this is more safer than gambling your bitcoins alone in sports betting, dice, blackjack and other types of gambling game.

The lower the amount you may get, the legit way of getting some decent profit.

Gambling is never an investment. It is like a games were can
gives entertainment to anyone who wants to play in a gambling
sites. Thus, gambling you can earn profit but in a risks way.

I think investing in the world of gambling is one of the best investments available today. any time you are entitled to make an investment here. because gambling is a game that a lot of people play every day.

Gambling is just name of risk from point of view that is not fit into term of investment because of high risks what it have. Investment in gambling casino is also like gambling but that is less risky. So gambling can't be investment.

Irregardless on how we call it we have different interpretation with gambling, some call it for entertainment and some call it as investment. In my point of view, I call it as investment when I am too focus in gambling and when the result is very vital for me that I would even think that it's my business which I need to treat seriously by having a long term game plan to achieve profitability.

we are just making some opportunity if we are investing our money with gambling placing our money not against the house will make some edge for us as we knew that most of the house wins but considering that its called gambling will not giving us a 100% assurance that we will always in the winning side theirs also some lucky day for the gamblers itself.

In my own opinion gambling would become like investing when you do tend to put up money in the the gambling house itself because we all know that investment could able to generate us profits then putting money to the house is a good option rather than playing on the site itself.Its a wise decision or step up although its somehow risky because it might those house would run but better than lossing your money in an instant without the chance on making money out of it.

When the amount spent on gambling starts to grow at least to a  small percentage, then can describe gambling as a form of investment. But very few gets the chance of considering gambling as a investment, because only very few win continuously.

So you are likely to invest with bitcoin and your time with it. And if a gambler manages to make gambling as his investment by playing.

That's not a good way, but if he will let his bitcoins invested the way it used to be with bankroll casino's then he is doing it right.

I don't agree that at all because gambling is a pure game playing not to grow your money. If you play a longer then surely you will end up losing all your money, but in real investment, you will surely make good profits in the longer run. Both opposite so don't think that you can make money from gambling.

Not all the time I guess, maybe majority of us will end up losing our money since we cannot win in the long run. However, beyond what we can imagine, there are good people who are making money in gambling and treated it as their investment, sports handicappers who are professional enough did that.

gambling can make your capital grow that's why you must invest. no invest no income that's all business work. but its not 100 % sure that you can gain a stable income through gambling ofcourse you still needed to depend on luck and a knowledge about what gambling games you playing.

About poker, yes, professional poker player knows basis of human's nature and psychology. If you are a professional poker player with newbies or amateurs, than this is a good time to bet higher money but this doesn't mean to play on 1000 dollars or more. Also gambling is like investment when you are really investing in gambling websites and when you save money which probably would be lost if you would gamble.

Is that what you do?

Angel investors are gambling with their money,i guess.They invest in 100 startups hoping that 2-3 might

become the new Google or Facebook.The other 98 will fail for sure.

It`s like bying lottery tickets.

I think gambling is not an investment. The only game that can make a lot of money if you're lucky, and make you lose if you're not lucky. but, apart that if you invest in a gambling site, it may be advantageous if the site is really dividing the result by the agreement. but you should choose to invest in a reliable

On the other hand you also need some amount of luck to make some money when investing. You can lose all just like while gambling, don't you thinK?

Have you heard, in every rule there is an exemption?  This time it is gambling being investment.  We all know investment does not come only in money, it is either time, or effort.  If you want to make gambling you way of earnings then you need to invest your time and money to learn curves of every casino, or strategy of a game you want to master such as poker or blackjack.  Learning different  strategy in textbook is far more different in learning it firsthand.  so the person needs to spend money, time and effort in order to accomplish what he wanted.  And this is called investment.  Investing your effort to master a game so you can have an advantage over other players in terms of experience and strategy.

Gambling can be like investing if you know what you're doing when gambling on sporting events or playing online poker.
Also arbitrage in sportsbetting is practically the same as investing, so I think in those cases investing and gambling can be quite similar.

That is true only if you are carefully analysis the data, if you are not then investing and gambling become very similar since you will be relying completely in your luck in order to profit form it.

It is not true. Because gambling is playing games and you can have a fun not risking your money. You need to pay for these games to play. But in investing you can make a good profit in the longer run if you make some decent decision and not all investments are scams.

Actually, gambling is not like an investment, Gambling is total different way, it is game as everyone know that and it is just like other games, but the differences are in gambling we use money and in other games like hockey, matches and volleyball, and etc we use our body but in gambling we use money, So i think that's why you are talking about investment for gambling. But no, i am not agree that both are same ways.

All gambling is a form of investing and all investing is a form of gambling. You are just taking a bet into something going your way in both scenarios. The difference is that in gambling you don't have much control and with investing stocks and so on you have some sort of expectancy in what can happen even tho both require big ass luck.

Yes investing and gambling will never meet. These two are completely different and if we are trying investment within gambling then definitely it will disappoint us.

A better practice must be doing a special thing for your special purpose. Gambling is proven, it is ONLY made for having entertainments. So we must avoid any attempt to use gambling as an investment.

I think what you are saying is just an overview of this two but if you look deeper, this two is different entity, differentiated by risk level and the management on how to minimize or nullify risk.  If you search the web about the difference between these two, it is clearly stated that gambling relies greatly on chance and luck that there is no way you can mitigate the risk involved in there, while investment eventhough there is also risk involved, with proper research, planning and strategy can minimize or nullify the risk involved in it and turn the investment to a successful venture.

Gambling could be like investment if you spend a lot of time learn and studying about it and hypothetically discover a method to win in the long run. To make it work, you couldn't say about the method for anyone and try to play on many casinos, as long as you can. At some point, when you would start making a lot of profit, the casinos would find a way to stop you and that would be the end.

That is a hypothetically situation, search for this kind of thing is link search for the Holy Grail or the Lost Link.

I don't understand. At first I thought you were asking if gambling were like doing a financial investment or something like that. Which I believe it is, but at very high risk, and in most cases, not even profitable in the long term.

But after reading your post, I get the feeling you are asking if gambling could be an investment in education? Is that is?

Gambling can be investment if you have money to make your own gambling business, Honestly if you are just a gambler it is hard to make a good profit because of them you can be lose but if you are the owner you can gain a good profit.
The other thing you can invest as partner like the offer of betking for investment and i saw someone already made profit such a small amount but it can be increase more. study the risk is still not a good method that you can know what will be the next result..

Even in those games like poker and sports betting where you can win a profit, you don't run analysis in the same way that you do when you invest or when you trade since at the end does to our different activities one is completely dedicated to make money while the other is supposed to be just for fun.

It is not the same with only one exception. If you habe an investment hat is half half it is like flipping a coin. This is high risk investments though and are very unlikely to happen with large amounts of money.

In all ways, gambling can't be same as investment. Because investment is made to gain a profit over the time but gambling are for having fun activities. Both are completely different. In gambling, they have the option to win big amount to keep games more exciting but not for everyone to make a profit.

In general it's called an entertainment as it is base on the experience of the majority of gamblers, however in some it can be investment because they are reaping benefits in gambling using their talents and skills. The problem is only few can do that as most of us failed after many tries to seek for the money, what is important now is we just enjoy it to continue to appreciate it and will give a positive effect in our life.

Gamble will be like investing if you invest your money even if you know it is a big risk. You risk your money expecting to have a return from gambling. You invest in gambling more than your other responsibilities or for yourself. You put too much money in it treating it like a way to gain profit.

I agree. I am quite disappoint when people say gambling is investing. Investing is making smart choices and doing risk management so that you are likely to profit. However, gambling is having no control over the results so you rely purely on luck.

Yeha it was indeed true. However I think that gambling is a place of investment, but the investment in gambling will only benefit the owners place gambling or Casino. As all gamblers who play in it most are those who get the big loss. And I think that the thing in question is the investment with respect to gambling and not gambling to do investment in it. For if that is done then it is not an investment but a place to dispose of the money

Yes habibi what are you trying to tell   ;) :D gambling is like flipping a coin and investments are to be done with the help of a financial advisor .You can gamble with your investments if you have lot of illegal money  8)

Especially if you gamble using bitcoin ,you will experience something extraordinary and a lot of benefit.
For example if you gamble with 1 bitcoin worth $250 and managed to gain up to 2 bitcoin.
And then you withdraw it all when the price of bitcoin gained too lets say 1 bitcoin worth $500 now it is mean you have done more than investment, you gain profit here and there.

As long as people are considering gambling as a way for profit making and they are facing many risks for that they are developing some strategies to manage those risks then obviously they will be starting to treat gambling as their investment.

But gambling will teach them a lesson in long run after that they will start gamble for having some fun from it.

Elderly needs to play cards to enchanse there copacity to think and to don't lost memory if you guys know majong here in philippines elderly most play this kind of game and there are really good. Once your play with your money or deposit your money from casino you're just invest a capital to gamble.

Gambling is like investing because it also have some risk but not as big as gambling. Investing in HYIP sites is the risk that I am talking about, because you never know when the site is going to be a scam. One thing that you will know is it was already a scam one day when you wake up and then just you type it in the browser to log in your account but then the browsers can't find it because it was already gone, your bitcoin was gone and mostly that is what happening in those HYIP sites, that is why it is called like Gambling because of the risk.

The main problem among new gamblers must be they are not ready to learn a lesson from other gamblers. That is the reason after a long staying only every gambler will be deciding to gamble to have some entertainment out of it. But the losses in between time will be the biggest a concern and worth for a lesson to learn in beginning days itself.

But to double your bankroll in a casino game is very difficult in fact is a lot more likely that the price of bitcoin will double than to double your bankroll, it will be better to just keep your bitcoins and wait for a price increase.

This is actually one of the best advise. I have tried a lot of ways to increase my btc and most of them ended up in losses. If i have kept my btc, i will be super rich.

Keeping or holding bitcoin is a good thing to do but its also good to make some investment and you should not put in to your list on playing gambling. Investment could be possible on gambling but you should put your money on the house itself not on playing on the site because you will surely lose your money.

I just assume you win the game and doubled your money in two sides .
Bitcoin price gain doubled and your winning in the game doubled just an assumption okay.
Because we are talking about gambling here , not as bitcoin holder only so no better option rather than to gamble it carefully and get your money doubled.

If every gambler understands that gambling is not making money instead just to get fun and either keeps your coins or invest in some other places to grow then most of the gamblers will happy. But they will try to earn a quick bucks from gambling and finally lose all their bankroll.

gambling is risking your money right but with a great profit if you win the game just like investing with your investment there's no assurance that you will gain your income back . so investing is like gambing if you invest it on a things. try to invest it on gambling sites bank roll maybe you can gain enough profit from it with more stable than investing it gambling. gambling is fun tho you're not sure if you can gain a stable profit from it.

The outcome should justify how we called our venture with gambling, it's only investing when you are too confident that you can profit in the long run, other than that it's called entertainment. Only the chosen one has the chance to make profit in gambling and even make a living with gambling.

I know everyone's dream are to have a comfortable life and gambling is one that is viewed as one of the possible ways to achieve that dream.

The sad thing is that btc investment is very risky and most of them turned bad. I invest in a lot of different places including btc casino. Do you know that someone did an experiment and it turn out only 3 out of 6 casinos give him profits.

According to me Gambling Never Be like investing Because Gambling Only Depends Upon your Luck and you are putting your money in gambling games to try your fortune but In investing you are putting your money in investment projects to grow your money. Also the Risk factor is not same in gambling and investing.

But in the end, you have one goal for using both activities. You are gambling to grow your money and you are also investing to grow your money. For me, they are just the same because you are both risking your money in those ways. And as long as you are aiming to grow your money you will need to take the risk because if you won't, you won't gain anything.

Exactly, and when you want to grow your money you also need to work for it, that means you have to improve your skills and knowledge at the same time. That is your capital alongside with your financial capital in your journey in gambling, the outcome is base on your decisions so it is necessary to carefully evaluate the bets you are making by considering all the factors that may affect the outcome of the game.

Gambling is like investing because the bet that you are putting in the gambling for you to win is your investment. You are hoping that it would multiply in time by playing gambling but most of the time it didn't multiply instead it vanished. Gambling is a very risky game and yet addicting because you want to win back all the bitcoin that you have lost which is your "investment", with this kind of mindset, instead you quit gambling in an instant because you already lose too much but you just can't, because just like of what I've said, you want to win it all back.

Gambling will be effective as a investment when you have cent percent assurance that you win the event. Whether you bet on the lower odd or highest, the winning decides it to be a form of investment or just gambling

I have heard that in my childhood that playing card can increase the capability of our mind but for most of the time I have heard that gambling is only for entertainment so it is in my mind and whenever I hear about gambling it comes to my mind as a source of entertainment and I do not think about investment in gambling but only know that it is also the business of the owners or gambling providers.

No one can tell you 100% accurately that any team or a person going win unless the match is fixed. Even though it is fixed but still you will have a fear that result may change. Gambling is just a playing games for fun but investing is to earn money over the time. You need to wait for investments to grow and it will not happen instantly.

That is why the odds also keep changing. So if you are thinking you can play around the odds, the odds changes faster than you ever think it is. And the odds are also have the house edge factor in already. So no matter how you bet with all the results, you will still get back lesser.

Well, maybe gambling will feel like investing when you win the game and get a lot of bitcoin. Well, I think it would be very difficult to notice these things, because the investment, and gambling are two different things. so, if you want to feel the investment of gambling, then you should not invest money that you have into gambling sites that provide it, and wait for your profits

In this way, gambling is definetly an investement.

Just because we are putting money or wagering it with gambling that is what I'm already considering as a form of investment, because are the one that will decide whether you will invest it to some profitable things or just simply gamble it and hopes to win bigger amount if you are lucky enough when you gamble.

But that is where there is the difference, in trading you shall not hope to get profits, you must make an analysis and only when your analysis says that you can win money is when you show make that trade.

Wagering is enjoying the games, not an investment. If you want to win big money in short time and enter to gambling means, it is not an investment but taking significant risks to play those games. Winning chances are almost nill in gambling. So as per me it is not a investment. Those are just fun games but need to pay for it.

We are suppose to do that way but the reward like we can win without limit attracts us to make it a serious investment, and of course when we are talking of investment there should be a careful strategic planning that is when we choose our game and use our skills. This type of investment is very hard since most of us who tried failed in the end and others even have a miserable life because of gambling.

Well as someone mentioned earlier it really depends on the definition of investment. If you take an investment just as a way how to surly make some profit, then no - gambling is not an investment, but otherwise it may be taken so.

i just can't see gambling as an investment..
if you're investing, have some luck is good but it's more dependent of all the work done.

in gambling, even if you work on a strategy, all you can do is hope for a good result...
but i agree there are exceptions, games were you can beat the odds like poker and blackjack.

As long as we are putting our money into risk, that is making me think that it is an investment. But because of your definition about investment and difference of it with gambling, I'm enlightened. But the only investment we can make with gambling is depositing or investing into their bankroll casino's.

Well for me, investing is a gamble. You give your money to other so they will take care of it, so you can have profit out of it. Investing and gambling for me is the same. You gave your money hoping for a profit. It is the same for me but they still have some differences. Gambling is fun, you are having fun butnit might cost your money. Investing needs patience, you must be really patient because profit don't really come quick, you need to wait. And in the worst scenario, this is two of the reason of losing your money.

Even when you invest in casino bankroll there are risks, the casino may disappear or go bankrupt while that is not very likely if the casino is trustworthy that is a possibility that is there, also by the nature of the games you could lose money in the short run if a gambler gets lucky so we must be mindful of that.

Putting money in gambling is not like a risk instead of buying a movie ticket to enjoy your free time. So what you spend money on gambling never be called an as investment. It is just a fun activity. But if your gambling to earn money then it is a mistake, and you may lose a lot of money in gambling. Before it is too late, stop gambling for making money.

gambling is just like investment, because you put money in gambling to double or to win some extra from it just like what we do in investment. i think more than 99% people play gambling for making money, therefore it is an investment.

But we have to think, the investment could make lose. So when we loss, do not be sad or crying. Better think to search for this form of gambling that suits our abilities and our pleasure, so even though are lose, we will still fun.

Only when you invest in casinos do gambling like investing. Because when you do that, you will definitely earn passive income day by day or week by week. However, if you gambling, I do not think it is considered as a way of investment because you can lose all of your money in a second if you are too greedy or in high temper.

It does if we invested in gambling or casino then it will be much more compared to gambling. Because investing is already have a guaranteed profit will have no loss if the site is trustworthy and has a good enough guarantee. But it all is something that has risks, so we also have to be prepared for all risks that will be given. But still we have to do it if not then we will not get things good things.Investing in the right way and do not ever think that investment is an easy profit

Both are risky but to compare gambling the investing on casino sites is a slightly better choice. Here we can expect some profit if we invest on reputed sites. But investing needs lot of time to double your capital. And it requires significant capital. If you don't have enough capital, then the investment is not the right choice to make a profit. Yes, it is not that much easy to make a profit in Investment.

IF you do tend to invest on casino sites its really an ideal to put huge amounts of bitcoin so that you could able to feel the profits and you are right doubling your capital on a casino house would really takes time but still its a good choice rather than nothing at all. Choosing the most famous and reputable gambling site is advisable because we could able to assure ourselves that we are putting our money on a good site.

It is an investment of time to become better at gambling
It is not a financial investment as for example stocks

Only when you invest in making a casino, or invest in their bankroll

Or make your own casino

If you do matched betting, then it can be considered as an investment

Otherwise it's gambling, having fun, luck  :D

Gambling is like Investing every time we get lost, it is like being scammed in those HYIP sites. In gambling, the investment that we put is our money or bitcoin, we put it on the risk hoping that it would be back to us with profit by winning, but most of the time, we lost in gambling, making our bitcoin vanished in an instant. Gambling is a very risky game, though investing is also risky but not as big like in gambling.

I disagree with that. Many players gamble for fun. That's the main point of gambling.

Yeah gambling is meant to be entertainment not a job.

No, Gambling is not like an Investment, Gambling is a game, but in gambling games, we use money, but we are not doing investment on it.
When we start to do bet, than it mean we are use our money in game, and in the end of result if we win in it than good but if we lose, So its mean we have lose our amount on gambling, IT doesn't mean that we have lost our amount in investment.

But I think that is pure greed, since to earn any significant amount of money we must be willing to work hard for it, the allure of gambling is not very strong if you understand the fact there is not an easy way to make a lot of money.

Gambling is like buying a penny stock that is going to die but hoping for that 1 spark that could make it shoot up in price.  You buy it without knowing what it actually is.
Gambling is Gambling.  Investing is Investing.

That is true, gambling is just a games and we can't compare that with any kind of investments. But some people think that they are risking money in gambling so it is same as investing. They should know that you need to pay money to gamble and that money is not a investment. But if your lucky then only sometimes you can earn some big money.

Primarily it depends on how you manage your gambling journey, if that is for investment to you therefore it is just and fair that you have to device a specific game plan and ensure that you will follow it diligently, this could be a very hard journey but the success is very sweet if you can do this.

On the other hand, those people who are gambling for money but primarily relies on luck, it's not investing at all.

On the other hand, if you just buy a random stocks and you hope it will rise then it's a kind of gambling, ain't it?

gambling is just similar to investment but in gambling we can control our earnings and we use money both gambling,investment but on investment we cant control our earnings and its takes time to build up unlike on gambling.

It's pretty similar base on you knowledge and skills, there are people who are making money in gambling and we can call them lucky enough to have that kind of skills and with their skills they can make a living in gambling, however if you compared investment and gambling, the automatic conclusion is gambling is for fun and and investment is for the purpose to generate income.

And people who are making gambling as an investment are only few in this world. Because if those people are relying always their source of living with their luck that's kinda risky. And for both, investment and gambling you need to invest not just money but also your time. In gambling, the more you will invest the more chance of losing but in investment that's a different thing.

As everyone says gambling is somewhat like investing just like in a business you invest like you gamble in a betting game when a business earns profit and if economic demand of your product is progressive and if not then thats the time you are losing your investments. The same with gambling if you are betting in a sports game and your investments is your bitcoin in your wallet and yet chances were there in a positive situation and you won that would be consider profit but if you fail then you lose the invested btc.

I agree, there is a higher chance of losing in gambling. Unlike in investing on a business even if you invest some huge money there you can still minimize the risk of losing by basing on different factors. But in gambling you need to rely on your luck in order to gain profit. Also to always have profit in gambling you must have many strategies to use because one strategy does not always works.

i think gambling is different than invest, although have the same meaning "a form of assets with an expectation of profit in future"

That meaning is too broad and does not truly reflect any of the two. Gambling and investing are extremely different. Yes both have a factor about chance and luck, but they really have so much difference. In gambling you can't change your choice. Once the game starts you already have a fixed number you need to hit. Unlike in trading, if you buy an asset it is up to you when to sell that asset. In gambling the chances of winning will remain the same regardless of being an experienced gambler or not. In trading, the more experienced you are the more likely you will profit from trading.

Gambling is always a game, a type of entertainment which you should not get addicted to it. Investment on gambling only cause troubles and bad results. Too much gambling can make you poorer. Find an another real life project is more useful and profitable than throwing your money through the window

Yes, I agree, if we regard gambling as a job, certainly makes us stress if we lose, but if we make entertainment of course whatever happens will make us happy.

i think gambling is not a job, its only some thing that we do in our times and its like a hobby for few people. we should know that gambling is not the same as investing, its different thing and although both gambling and investing need money but the main purpose is different. gambling eat our money, meanwhile investing is share the profit from our investing.

I do some buy and sell in rare books and I recently found a signed copy of a certain "famous" modern gambler.  I couldn't sell it for about six months to a year, even at $5.95.....finally sold at that price.  It had a long personally written note in it.  Goes to show a lot of the hype about modern superstar gamblers is just about the money they made, a very temporary fleeting fame.

Yeah its not a job. Gambling for me is a game that giving entertainment with money involve.but i don't agree that it is like a hobby.. if you gamble and make it hobby it can wreck your life.. for me it is just a game for entertainment and for past time..

I agree with you, gambling is not a job but I also disagree with you and i think gambling can be hobby. There are so many ways to gamble without money with chance to win money, for example poker freerolls, faucets, giveaways etc. Gambling is math game it means sometimes you will lose and sometimes you will win even if you play for free.

but you need to realize the fact, that some time greediness can also cause lost to you, you need to remain moderate, specially in gambling where the chances of loosing money is always greater than making money.

That is wrong. In gambling also mostly we can't control your earnings because once you bet you don't know whether you will win or lose until results are shown up. It purely depends on luck but in investment, if you invest in good business then at least you can predict some profit over the time. All good investments take time to give you profits.

yup and if you are playing gambling then you only risk your money, but if you make investment with the house and you can get profit with them then its called investing in gambling. for playing gambling, i think we should control ourself and our greed so we don't have to loss a big of money.

but i think your prediction cannot be proved as correct for every time. i think even investment also need your good luck just like gambling. investment adn trading have only one advantage and that is the knowledge and previous experience.

Gambling is like investing when you invest in yourself i.e you start taking several courses on texas holdem poker. You play against different kind of opponents every time for let's say 5 years every single day in games like zynga texas in facebook. You can challenge yourself there and after you can come in every poker room to show off your skills with real money and real tournaments in the major casinos FIAT or Bitcoin. This is gambling like investing in my view.

If gambling like investment than it doesn't mean that gambling is really investment. But i really respect you opinion, but in reality, every kind of business similar with investment. But every business name is different, only similarity wise we can't call that everything is same from like investment. But really i am not understand why people think that gambling like investment, even in gambling we win or lose our amount to play the games, but in investment no games, only use money in a right way.     

It is in any case luck be required, but luck in investment is different with gambling. Although in investment need luck, but we still can manage if we have a good skill. So says @roadbits I think it's true, I agree with him. Gambling like investment maybe I do not know because this is game, while investment to get profit so they are different. Maybe when investing in a gambling site/casino it was can be called gambling like an investment.

Right in gambling we use the money to play games, it's not an investment it's just we spend some coins for our entertainment. But casino site investment is different here we will spend money to make business. In gambling, we will not expect 100% income because it is luck base game. But in investing, we will invest money to make a profit not to have fun with our huge money. So even I don't know why people call gambling like an investment.

It can never be happen that gambling is similar into investing. Trading was a serious matter that need to grow it buy using some analysis and strategy while doing trade in the exchange platform. Compare to gambling the most often happen the player losses their money in the end of the game.

It only gets closer to investment when you have the discipline to quit when need be and have a set down bankroll for every bet which you can afford to loose. It's unfortunate most gamblers don't think like investors and all they do is bet all they have without even proper technical analysis of the game and the end up victimized by the house.

From the way you it is, only in some few games that gambling can be likened to investing and they are basically only games with skills such as card games and even in real life like draft or chess. In those games, because of expertise that have been developed then one can say its investing any money you put into it since you are sure to a large extent your money is coming back but same is not to be said of dice games or high and low without any form of cheating, its purely based on chance and it will always be gambling no matter how experienced the player is.

Yeah, this seems odd. Because I feel that every gambler has a great advantage would never write a book, because of the advantages they get is from the results quite tired and certainly the rare book written just a crap and all the people who can't benefit will certainly think so. Please note that gambling is not a profit, but gave a whopping. Only they can understand to profit.Show yourself and never do anything bad thing if it wants to get big profits..!!
 

Well if you're that good in a certain gambling game then you're right. Being a professional poker player defi itely woyld be worth your time, effort and money much like when you're making an investment that you've studied about for a long time. You study where you're going to make your investments, do hard research to have a chance of landing a good roi, same as when you play, you make time to gather experience and learn techniques to betterbyour chances of winning

If you always deposit and you will get nothing its like investing on ponzi sheme website where you cant even get back your ROI in to that playing on gambling and just loosing money wasting money and throwing money. HAhaha is B.S try to learn more hard work then you will know the value of your money i swear.

According to me it's not possible that anyone can become perfect by just doing Gambling because Gambling is just a Game Of Luck and a User can't win for long term because all the Casinos of the World work on a probability basis so I Don't Suggest anyone to do Gambling in order to make some money.......

if u can do gambling like do a homework daily, then is investing ^^

the "luck" thing also applied to investing also.

just do more research and action especially the money u can afford to lose.

 :D

Just for money making purpose one should not take part into gambling. If you have good time to spend, similar to forex then you can earn small amounts periodically as if that you get from investments. For this reason I believe gambling too can be considered as a investing source depending on the users need and the eagerness to spend time.

Research in gambling? Dude that is gambling you dont get to research something out of it.
You just play it and try to enjoy it without losing.
It is very different with investing, you just put your money there and gamble it.
Try investing in a gambling site with .01 satoshis then try another where you would gamble it. Then compare how different it is and you will see.

Well for me every time that I send some money to some gambling site I think of it as an investment,
So if I win I will just consider it as my profit to my investment and if I lose I will just think of it that my investment got scammed.

I agreed on this things, gambling can never be a kind of investment to me.  Because in any type of gambling you can start at small balance in your bankroll. And when you say investment it is not small amount only especially in this industry of course, And its true most of the time gambling can destroy your personality once you become addicted into gambling.

Your way of thinking about gambling is completely wrong. No one is forced your to gamble then why you think that gambling site is scammed you if you lose? Because in gambling both winning and losing is part of the game so you should consider that before playing. Also gambling is not a investment because we should play with small amount these games only for fun and entertainment and not to make an easy money out of these games.

if you are lucky you can easily double your money but still can't classified gambling as sort of investment because there's no real service or product that you are going to wait in returned its just your luck that you can rely on, so better to treat it as source of fun and for you to be entertain while you are using your spare time.

you should only talk about these things in the long term not the short term such as once or twice winning or losing.
you acn be winning your first couple of bets in gambling but that doesn't make gambing profitable. the same goes for trading, you can be losing your first trade and lose a big amount of money. this also doesn't mean trading is not profitable.

if you make money in a long term like after 2 month from trading or from gambling then you can call them profitable not before.

When there's no process of evaluation, that's gambling

Probably, because although some will say only luck is necessary in gambling, we still have the responsibility to analyze the game whatever type of game we are playing. If we are treating it as our investment then we know every factors that will affect the outcome of our bets, most likely we do not do it in a luck based games as that does not give us a good chances to win.

yes that is depending on the type of playing gambling if we are playing gambling on sports games then it can be consider as investment, because there like investment and trading we also depend on our experience and skill with good analysis and knowledge.

Any amount of money, time and effort you spent on a goal is always an investment.  Thought there are two types of investment, good investment and bad investment.  I think gambling both falls under the two category depend on the person on how he manage his gambling investments.

Investing itself is a gamble. Investing is not just all about profit and fun. It has also risks especially where to invest and if that site is profitable or not.

That point there is we invest on a site that is profitable and trustworthy and that is our job to determine if they fall to our criteria prior to putting our money for investment. There are only few factors to consider because investing in a casinos is already profitable since most gamblers loses and due to  playing without an advantage.
Gambling can be in two ways like being a gambler who play and the other one is to invest in gambling sites and for me I would choose investing in sites.

i suggest you go out there in real life and then make an investment in your real life to see how wrong your statement is.
an investment is never like a gamble. it has risk but having risk doesn't mean you are gambling. it is gambling if you are investing somewhere without knowing what that somewhere is! that is idiotic to begin with.

All investments will have some risks, and as an investor, you should study well and make a right decision. If you can't take some risks then you can't grow your money over the time. It is very difficult to find which site will make profit and which one not so it is good to invest your money in few good trusted sites then you will get good average returns from your investments.

Well investments are in a way similar to betting on a basketball game. You really don't know what the result would be in who will win or lose. But if you are a fan and have been following basketball for a long time, you'll have a pretty good chance of knowing who has the better chance of winning. Its the same with investing. With proper information and research, also if you have experience already, you'll have an idea where to smartly place your investments on with the best chance of profit. I think in this aspect, investing and gbling becomes similar to each other

People that have no idea of what is going to happen as the end result is the most common method to Gambling. I would consider that method as the most common method to losing money because there is a 70 % chance that the person didn't research the match before placing a bet.

If someone puts money on something that they did research on then I would call that an investment more than a Gamble (it really is just an asset though).

Making a research will just give you the information that is considered as your basis to analyze your bet, however it does not mean you can easily win. I'm sure most of us who are doing sports betting made an analysis but we have different perception and understanding on what we see.
Gambling is a game of chance and there is no guarantee that we can win but to make it like investing, we have to make an effort and hope for the best that the outcome will favor us most of the time. When we make mistakes, we need to correct it, when it lacks something we need to adjust and add to make it right, it's a process that we must continually do.

In investing and trading if you make any mistake, it will help you to solve that issue in your next move. But in gambling, if you make any mistake no matter because here the same mistakes will not repeat and the same strategies also not repeat. And I also not consider gambling is an investment. It is just a game, and how much you will make a profit and how much you will lose money all depends on your luck.

Gambling can never be like investment, because it is a game of relax to anyone in gambling sites. To some others it is a kind of fun and entertainment only nothing else.

There is a main reason why people keep gamble, that is to earn easy and fast money. I don't think we can feel relax when we betting, usually, i got my adrenaline pumped up because of gambling, same with some people on here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1797695.0
Investment has less risk than gambling, we can earn some profit but only in long term (investing isn't suitable with people who don't have patience)

Exactly, i am totally agree with you, i really don't understand why people consider gambling like investment. Even only one reason is same and that is Money, we use money in gambling and also we use money in investment and except it, nothing is similarity with each other. I also agree that Investment is investment, But Gambling is fun and entertainment and sudden gain money.   

Gambling is gambling and Investment is investment, It doesn't mean you deposit on your bankroll its called investment, of course not! You deposit because you are ready to lose in the games, while in investing your thinking for a long term profit not a short term earnings.

i agree with this, its different and we should know this although both is related between each other. but in my mind, gambling is something that we do with money involve and its not like investing which investing is we put our money into the house and we expecting to get profit with them.

I agreed, but sometimes we cannot handle the mind of the gambler in terms of their principles in gambling, especially if the person is really addicted unto it. Even we say so many times they won't listen at all as long as his/her belief was differ than yours. But I know majority of the member in this forum believed gambling is different in Investing.

If all the gambler will be having same opinion on treating gambling for investment, I believe this gambling industry would have gone into next level of upgrade. But only very few people are going for gambling as an investment and all others are just using gambling industry similar to amusement places.

But we cannot be sure that they are all getting their success as we can see some people are making profits from gambling and some people are finding good entertaining times with gambling. As long as they are finding good time with gambling is an investment for refreshment or for making fortunes.

An investment may not give only financial returns, some investments are entitled for giving pleasures, gambling investments may be one of them.

We have to believe because that is the real definition of gambling, it's risky to think that gambling can also be an investment because the odds are always against you and you need a bunch of luck to succeed.

Maybe at first look we will be tempted to see it as an investment due to the fact that there are other people who are making fortune in gambling, however we were one sided, we only look at the brighter side when there are more people who's destiny is opposite to those who makes a fortune. Some get's bankrupt and live in the street because of that aim in life.

Not really ! I am not addicted to gambling and I can suggest you some genuine ways of profiting from sport betting, for example take arbitrage betting where you find different sportsbook providing different odds, in short both the sportsbook provide opposite odds and you just bet on both the teams.

This way you can never face loss, how can you say that addicted people feel like gambling can be profitable, even the non addicted ones think that way my mate.

This two things are contradicting to each other and cant be considered since Gambling is purely playing on a certain game and we dont know such thing about an investment that do involves playing but when we are talking about playing our money on the gambling house bankroll then it can be considered since you are on the house side.

Whether it is entertainment or fun but as long as people gamble with real money ( bitcoins, cash, fiat,etc ) there has to be a financial aspect related to it. You won't find any single gambler who can happily say that he lost 0.05 bitcoins today and he had fun.

Why ? Simply because fun and entertainment themselves comes from winnings. And investment in gambling can be like there is a group of specialist gambler and we invest under them.

But investment means that you are not just participating in a race where you start from behind as compared to others. I mean in gambling you start from behind, since the house holds the edge but in trading, investing you hold the edge in your favor and though there are chances to loose and win but at least we are doing to best to minimize the loss.

I love gambling and I play gambling daily, especially I like poker. It's never any kind of investment. I don't count myself addictive, but when I look on the rusults of my game - I didn't win any good money for more than 6 months already. When I just started I could win like 200-300$ in some games and I got such prize almost monthly. Now all my games just looks like a trying to reach the previous success again.

Actually he is not wrong, anyone who deposits money in a gambling site basically dreams of winning. And you said that gambling can have loss and win, tell me one single investment that guarantees you profit only and no chances of loss ?

I can't think of such investments at all. There is risk associated with each investment and with gambling the risk is high but so are the profits.

Money is involve in this two, gambling and Investing. The only difference is that in gambling, we invest our money to know if we are going to win or not, while in Investing, we invest our money because we know that we are going to have profit from it in time. Though, in gambling and Investment, there are risks that we need to consider. In gambling, only risk here is that either we lose or not, while in Investing, either we are going to be scammed of not.

well for me, I think gambling become like investing when I do gamble then I win in the game several time then I instantly quit in the games for what I'm gonna do on my winning amount is I am going to invest it to buy some altcoins and bitcoin so I had a better to do on my winning  amount came from gambling. So that's  investment came from gambling.

In my own point of view it will be to impossible to say that gambling can be relevant to any investment because that is two different thing. Because once you gamble you are taking a very high risk that you might get a chance to double your money in an instant deal without any assurance that it would happenmost of the time not like in investing once you invest you knew for your self you able to figure out analyze how investment work especially when to put your investment too.

It never come up into my mind that gambling is like an investing concepts. Because for me gambling is just a place of fun and a place waste of money anyway. It is actually a risk involve once become an addict you will loss lots of money. I don't know just for me it is not a form of investing to me.

      Gambling will be an investment if you actually win more than losing on it. Gambling is a game that involves losing money and earning depends on if you have the luck or not. I myself is not also a fan of gambling because I know i have no luck of gambling, it sure can help other people and their minds to keep their mind alert but the cost is your money. You can play other games or play games online that will not cost you anything but helps you train your mind. In my opinion gambling will never be an investment. :)

Really? I like to just think that gambling and investing are literally the same as each other depending on what the investment or the gamble is. If I wanted to make money investing in something that I had no idea was going to have a price rise then I would try to get the most information on it as I can though in the end it would be a gamble in its own part. The same situation goes if I was trying to bet on something.

If we exclude betting, then gambling can be separated from investing/trading by one thing - determinism of outcomes. In casino games you can calculate your chances and expected value which will always be negative. You can tell that there is -0.5% EV in this game and -2% EV in that game, but when it comes to investing, you can never precisely tell the chances. Even the best investors and traders can only expect something, but never determine the odds of any possible outcome.

I think it is avery interesting question.  For the disciplined investor it is clear they are not the same.  But if you are undisciplined in your investing you may actually just be a gambler with the same odds of losing.

Do you say when we invest we can't precisely tell the chances of profit? Invest for me is when you add money to casino bankroll and receive profit when the casino has profit. If you don't do it, you are gambling, not investing.
It's very different, because investment gives profit on long run, while gambling gives losses on long run, but possible huge profit on short run.

The first thing you should know is gambling is never considered as an investment because these are just games and we need to spend our money enjoy these games. But if only if you're lucky, then you got a chance of making some money but that doesn't mean that it is an investment. I never consider gambling as an investment but investing on casino bankrolls may be a good investment option.

Investing in casino bankroll is a rare case when you know the expected value, but more commonly when you invest in business or buy some assets you can't tell the probabilities of any possible outcomes. Casino games are very simple and they are built to be deterministic while real business is very complex and can't be accurately predict. This is the reason why companies like Google or Microsoft can turn their owners into billionaires but casino owners will never have similar returns.

I think in taking the way the example in the dice gamble when we choose high / low it happens to the investment where we have to invest in a great place both don't know the result. although I was somewhat hesitant about my statement because gambling actually can't be considered like an investment.

Gambling would only turn out to be an investment when you do already invest on gambling sites bankroll which means you dont really need to play but to be part of the house which is a wise decision than on playing on it.Chances of losing money would really be different because we do all know that house still wins on the end of the game thats why investing on bankroll will be suggested.

Yes , gambling will not become investment if you only a gambler who play the games and put a bet on it. 
A wise gambler will invest and have some shares with a gambling site if you have a little big amounts .It will become a big profit for you . A common mistakes that people think that gambling is an investment which only those wise man knows were to invest smartly not like playing games who rely on luck.

with your example there's a big difference in terms of results, in dice its just win or lose while in trade the possibility that it will remain the same is present and the amount of earnings can be maximized in trading while in dice you are just relying with your luck and the amount of your stake.

Yeah, but most of the gamblers see gambling as an investment, well, it is an investment, in a way, because we are investing our money, for us to have something to spend on betting, and also an investment of efforts and hard works, not quitting even though we are losing too much money, something like that. But it is not the real "Investment" that we are all thinking.

Gambling is just a game, where we could earn a lot of money in an easy way if we are good at it, or we do know what to do in every time that we are going to gamble, but like you, I never consider gambling as an investment.

When you invest your bankroll to gambling then that will become gambling into investment more of the gamblers don't want to invest their bankroll is better way to play their money into big risk to win big profit but it will became 50/50 chance of winning and losing its up to you on how you will handled it.

50/50? that is funny, if that is 50/50 as you said, then it must be really an easy game, no more addictions because with a martingale strategy, you can win your every gambling activities. That is not 50/50, more likely it's 70-30 chance, the more you increase the odd, the more the risk the bigger the profit. I think it is the way around, because investing is considered gambling because when you are putting your money at risk, they you are gambling.

Gambling is only like investing if you are so good at a game that you make more than you lose. If you play poker with people you know and you almost always win because you can read the opponents, then that could be an investment.

The only profitable way from gambling is sport-betting. Because here you don't bet against the machine or the house edge, you bet on real humans  you see how they play, you know for what they play, you know who they play against, how they play against this team. So yeah with a good bankroll management you can do good money.

About investing into gambling.. the best that would be like investing is if you've got a source that offers Fixed matches so you may invest to buy the game and put your money into it. You won't need more than $100 000 I guess tho ^^

I never think ever that gambling can be form of investing, I don't think so! because for me was just a kind of relaxation and form of making have some fun only. And gambling is too risky, though some says it was fun but most of the gamblers faced loses most often.

Loss is always accompanied with gambling. One thing that makes it a potential investment is the luck we have. If lucky we might get multiples of profit that we could never get from any of the investment schemes. Another thing is that several gambling websites give access to invest on their house. This gives an earning depending on the profit made by the gambling website.

You shouldn't mix both investing on casino bankrolls and gambling. Because both are totally different. Gambling can't be considered as an investment even though you can double or more when you're lucky because these are just games to get excitements. But if you invest on casino bankrolls then they are high-risk investments. You can make a more profit from these sites and at the same time can lose money fast so if you diversify your funds then you're profit making chances will increase from these investments.

It is even better if you will not play while you are investing in a casino so you will not temp to divest your deposits. Well, that is only if you are not quite good enough in controlling your emotions, the moment you lose control you might make a wrong decision so it's best to stay focus on investing only.

There is such 50/50 chance on gambling. If you set the win chance to 50% chance (considering 0 house edge), The game is already a 50/50. Some people mistaken the win chance and end up confused because martingle are still losing when applied. Win chance is just a probability you can get 100 loss streak even if your win chance percentage is set to high value.

sportsbetting fixed games .... it was not a good way to make money and to gamble .

gambling will feel like an investment when you do it in bitcoin, for example even if you lost 10% of total bankroll you have but the bitcoin market crazy like what happened recently , you will still in profit as the bitcoin you hold keep growing .

Gambling can never become an investment. Only way is when you invest in a gambling website. So whatever the profit the owner makes, you can get a part of it. But of you meant by doing gambling, gambling and investment are not even close.

You're wrong gambling can be investment it how only you use to spend your money and besides you don not need to gamble for it you only need to invest in the new casino's or gambling site bankroll when it is about to start that way gambling is like investing .By playing gambling it is not to be called investment it is the true meanin of gambling.

It can be like investing but your investment will come out at a loss in the end of the day. When you divide your bankroll in different amounts and you try to play different slots each with 0.05 bitcoin for example as an amount. You try 10 slots with 0.05 bitcoin each slot. It can pay off once in a lifetime if you hit biggest payout on slots or jackpot but all the other times you will come missing 0.50 bitcoin in total.

This is exactly what I said. By investing in a gambling website or casino just like some another business. It can turn into investment. But playing gambling is not an investment.

I do agreed on you, gambling is not a type of investment for me. maybe for others it is like or nothing difference in investment because it for them profit anyhow that's they say it. But like what other says it is only for enjoyment.

Investing on gambling site will give sure returns but if you invest money in playing gambling it is wrong here there are no returns. But don't think both are same. Investing on playing gambling means it's our bankroll. here we get 100% fun, but the income is zero or little profit. But casino investment will give us steady income.

It actually is not that big of a difference between gambling and investing with Bitcoin since the two require pretty much the same type of researching. I like to have a bunch of things that need researching then try to have the right result picked at the end of it. Since the gambling could get transacted online I like to do it on my free time and try to relax when I do it as well so I don't pick the wrong result on accident.  There is a bunch of money in gambling, I hope that most people see that and make money on it instead of losing.

Not a game of cards in gambling can not keep their minds because they just need to remember what is in the card game, it is different with chess game that always changing and Medical science also give statement of it.

Playing is not an investment because you are not putting your money in the hands of other person/company in able to get profit which is the main definition of investment. By the word itself Gambling, It is just a game that involves many and there is a presence of risk with it. Gambling can be considered as investment if you literally invest on gambling site and get some share with them.

Investment does work on that way but still both have a certain risk on losing money because investing on gambling house doesnt still assure give profits because there are intances which you do gain nothing when house on its negative profits and also site can ran anytime with your money and thats the risk on investing but still lot way better than playing gambling itself.Consuming your money would really differ on both fields.

Yes, people do make mistakes in distinguish what is investment from gambling. I guess when people are treating gambling as a source of generating their life's money then they must have started assuming playing gambling as an investment activity.

Gambling can be an investment, if you know about what are the casino's do with those people that wants to invest into their site. They are allowing people to invest to their bankroll so that it can make the amount of winning higher for the gamblers. If you want to see an example of it, you can just click my signature and visit it.

I don't think gambling, especially in the form of casino games, is ever like investing. The only way it is like investing is if you invest in a casino.

I don't agree with you. How Gambling can be similar to investment? Gambling is totally different from any other type of business or investment. Gambling requires experience and tactics but investment needs​ reliable source and right time click.
So gambling can't be like investment.?

I am pretty sure that it depends on the gambler whether or not investing right then or gambling in a certain situation will require strategic inputs in order to get the successful result. If I wanted to make money then I would try to invest it, the process would be pretty slow though I would feel that the risk would be much lower than trying to gamble the money. Gambling and Investing is kind of the same thing because they both could have negative results even with the right amount of research.

LOL gambling requires experince and tactics. dude this specifically applies to making investments as well. I agree that they're quite similar to each other. it's just that its more sensible to invest because the money you put in has a bigger chance of gaining profits and you have less chance of becoming bankrupt by choosing the right investment.

When to choose what to do I would always choose investing although it requires me to gamble, gambling is different, you cannot make enough money with only relying on your luck because it requires us to be consistent in order to make money in the long run.
As for me, I see the simple way is just to put your money in the bankroll of casinos, you can try to test your skills if your want but make sure to put some limit to quit and shift your way to investing in bankroll for better return.

Whenever gambling can never be like investing/investment kind. Because it is just a game for a typical gambler where they are
dependent in their luck only. Of course when we say investing it is a form of a real business not a waste of money like in gambling.

I think the card is not a game to remember, as in the card all results are always different or sometimes does not correspond to our thinking. So, in fact everything has its own strategy for a way or can benefit. Indeed if seen by the naked eye without seeing the other objects, card game has something uncommon or nothing special. But if it is seen from a different point of view then I'm sure it will be a profitable strategy appears every
 

There is also a website called moneypot which is a gambling website and also provides bankroll to its child sites too.
You can also invest in their bankroll and it will be a investment in gambling  :D

We could call gambling as a investment, in a way. Because in order for us to gamble, of course we are going to invest our money to use it on betting, and that is the risk that we are talking about, it is just either we are going to win or lose, still, it is an investment, but not the investment where we are waiting for something in return surely because it is what it is, I mean, for example is if you are going to invest in the bank, of course you must know first the rules of how the Investment works, if they are really going to make your money double.

In gambling you can invest only in fixed matches, that you  have to buy, otherwise you can't be sure you're gonna win 8)

According to me Gambling will Never Be Like Investing Because When You Invest Money in any Business then You Use Your Knowledge to Bring a Positive ROI and Then All Things Depends Upon Your Knowledge and Experience But When You are Investing Your Money in Gambling then Your Knowledge and Experience Doesn't Matter Because We all Know that Gambling Depends Upon Luck and All the Casinos in the Works on the Basis Of Probability.

when gambling is like investing, then i think many people will doing gambling games and they can release the stress because of work. i think its better for us to join into investing programs but we need to watching and searching the target first and then we can start and release the coins into ourself. i don't thingk that many people will make gambling as their visiting the other people.

I think gambling is like investment if you have good knowledge about gambling.

Although risk is always there in both trading and gambling but we can minimize the risk in gambling if we have proper planning and strategy to play gambling, even in some format of gambling your previous experience and gambling skill. Your analysis can also help you in gambling,

That's pretty much the same as investing in something with Bitcoin. How can anyone be that sure if they are 100% going to win money from what they put money in? In the end it's all just a gamble because even if the games were rigged there is a small chance of the gambler losing his money realistically speaking of course.

Do you have any examples on why you claim that gambling and investing is different from each other?

I will repeat myself again, every time when you give/place bet/ put on something and you expect more in return that is a form of investment. Gambling is all about that, in gambling your results are instant in some games, in some you need to wait, in anyway with gambling we see odds, we know potential win and we know our risks. Poker and sports are two best gambling games where you can apply different strategies and where we have most chances for making profit, other lucky games are also good but risk is higher and you depend from luck and your bankroll.

The best investment you can have is your own skills, I mean is gambling is just a game you can either win or lose and there always a risk thats why it is called a gamble. Your own skills and experience is the one who will help you to be at a advantage of the game. Invest in learning probability and statistics when you are in gambling. Mathematics ang engineering economy will help you determine the percentage of winning and the percentage of profit. Gambling is a hard game. Even those who use mathematics can be defeated. In gambling nothing is uncertain.

skills and experiences is one of the secrets to be a succesful trader/gambler. if you know a lot on that field you might be lessen the risk of losing but still you can be rekt if you had a bad choice. trading has a lesser risk if you just educate yourself about the things you will invest on. Gambling is just pure luck and strategy so better go choice between the two which path you are going to.

Gambling can and never will be like investing.

The otherway around is possible though. If you blindly invest in anything that comes along, that makes it gambling.

what op means are about when in investment there is a learning proccess when you decide which one the business to put investment , and in some gambling games like poker there is a learning proccess too which make he think that moment gambling feel like investment.

but for me personally , it is not makes any sense. gambling pretty contrast compared to investing.

Maybe what he is trying to say that there is a bigger risk in gambling than in investing. Because in gambling, there is only 40:60 chance that you are going to win, while in Investing there is a bigger chance for you to earn money, let's say for about 70 percent, because the only thing that you have to worry about in this thing is when the site where you have invested your bitcoin is going to run off, something like that.

I can say gambling is like investing when you get profit.
Just like when you buy a bitcoin in time of low price.You can buy to the holder of bitcoin who wants to sell in low price.
You will stock first so that you gain in the time of rising of current in bitcoin.
So investing in gambling is possible,just use your brain how to deal with it.

Yes, I never find that gambling is an investment, investment is nothing but at least you made some profits.
But through gambling most of the cases you fail to make money, big players will think that gambling is an investment.

Gambling too can be considered as an investment when you get an assured earning through the same. Such an access is possible only when you make an investment upon the gambling house rather than just gambling regularly on several events as well on Casinos.

If we invest in gambling like casino sites and earn monthly from it than you can call it is an investment. Otherwise i realize people think that gambling like an investment because they consider both have same ways. But i am totally disagree with it, because both have no similarity to use the money on them and earn money from them. 

If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that the only way that gambling is like investing is if you are the house, or own a part of a casino.  To this i would agree.  All gamblers agree, if you could be the house why gamble?

it depends on their individuals, many problems that people have such like time not everyone got their free time for doing some project rather than made a project they decided to support/invest the project, Investing your money on gamble site it's and play in there mean you're investing because you got ROI from gambling or none and it's have short term investment.

that's right if you will place your btc into the bankroll that can classified as investment letter the house to use your money and give you
some dividends when the house wins, but if you are a gambler who keeps on playing its impossible to treat gambling as an sort of investment.

Gambling can be investing only when you invest in the house . I say it as gambling because it contains risk too ( Casino Bankrupt ) , other than this I don't think gambling can be investing but I have heard that people used to invest in a group of BJ players who mastered card counting , not sure if its true.

I can consider this as gambling because bankroll is used to pay people who wins in a casino does the bankroll is being gambled every time a player roll.  So yeas investing in a Bitcoin Casino is an gambling that is like investment.  Aside from that it is also an investment when we try to learn strategy and skills in poker since we use money/BTC and time gambling just to learn stuff.  This is gambling like investing.

Yes investing in casino house is the investment in gambling but that is also a high risk if the person do not know about the casino as mostly the casinos come to scam people. The other best way of investment in casino is that if the person start his own casino.

Starting our own casino is the only way to earn sure in gambling, Playing gambling games doesn't assure us if we can earn on risking our money but investing may guarantee us that there's a chance to earn expecting that its not scam.

Yes this is the only way to make gambling like investing because if you are not going to do it there's no sense to gamble and call it as an investment. It is not investment when you are going to think that you are gambling, they are totally completely different. But if you are going to put some of your bitcoin to a casino bankroll then that's investing.

but to me i think in most of the games we cannot use our skill and experience and we most depend on our luck there. but i think no one can be luck for every time. but in some games like sports betting we can even use our skill and experience our knowledge about gambling is also too much importance. if we have these things then we can make good profit even in gambling.

Luck and experience still go hand in hand though they will be used in different aspects of the game. For example, in dice. In dice, you have to be lucky to win money from there. But experience plays a role in terms of when to withdraw. If you are not experienced then you will think you're invincible and you will just keep on betting because you are winning.

Actually investing is saving of money to make sure in the future to grow the capital. And this will be risky because you can't predict what will happen in the future. Example, when you invest in bitcoin you can't predict if you can get a profit or it will lose. Same as gambling, you can't predict the time for winning and losing.

Differnce between the two, gambling winnings and losing will get in small period of time unlike investing that need to wait a long time. Both them are money involved.

money wise, I think there's a while lot of difference between the two. but I agree, when you consider it as an investment like to keep yourself sharp anf thinking when you grow old, you're also investing in yourself. that's actually a good thought to ponder. but not financially. gambling is never a good investment.

although experience play the key role in our life. not only in gambling but in all walks of life luck play an important role, to me i think there are some gambling games where we do not need for any experience because there we totally depending on our luck for example in dice game we totally depending on our if you are lucky and will make money there then it is up to you either you want to withdraw your winning amount or want too play further with your winning amount.

I hear mostly people said that gambling like trading, but you are first person who said that gambling like investment.
As you explain that in poker game guide us to read the human nature.
Than i think everyone have different nature than some trader think trading like gambling,
in the same, some gambler think gambling like fun,
and some investors thing, gambling like investment. 
Its mean which we are doing business than we seem gambling like that type of business.

Gambling is like investing in the minds of the gamblers when they are depositing their bitcoins to a casino for using it to gamble. But that is a wrong way of thinking comparing gambling to investing. In investments, your fund will be used for helping the casino to operate unlike if you will gamble alone your money, you are the one will decide for it.

Gambling is like investing, except with greater risk & greater rewards.

Investors examine a prospectus, stock options, do comparison shopping searching for undervalued assets to invest in.

Sport gamblers examine athletic stats, win loss records, trends, game history & other variables searching for the right team or athlete to bet on.

Gambling can be investment only in the case of nonstop win, but it's just impossible. From other hand investment in gambling sites can become really profitable as I heard.

I agree with you as I am also at the point of view that if a person will spend some time at gambling then he will know the risk involved in gambling and he will gamble with cautions while a new comer will only know that he will be rich in nights and will spend their money and will chase that money.

No one wins non stop, to make it a more realistic definition, gambling can only be an investment if you put your money in casinos who offers investment program. That way you can ensure that they will give you a little percentage of their income based on your investment, this is only for people who are willing to wait, it's less risky for me IMO.

i guess when you gamble with altcoin or bitcoin itself ,
it has been / feel like linvesting , as when you lost the bet and price go up sometimes you still in profit!
and when you won the bet at the same time the price up you have a lot of benefit!
crypto world is full of opportunity.

What are you trying to say? Gambling is feel like investing when you do lost bet? How come?  When we do talk or mentioned about investing then we go directly investing on gambling site bankroll and thats the thing we do consider as an investment and playing on gambling sites wont really be considered as one because you do give your money on the house and making lost it all.

That's an easy question.  It's when you're participating as the house instead of the player :)

Wagerr and Edgeless are a couple of tokens off the top of my head that let you invest with the house.  Maybe you won't get the thrill of the win, but you can get some stable  income via Wagerr's POS or Edgeless Lounge.

Actually money is involved in both gambling and investment. That's why people seem like gambling is investment. Also few people think that gambling like trading. But in my thinking, trading and investment is safe-sound way of our money but in gambling our money on the highest risk. Only we are using money that's why gambling give us feeling of investment and sometime trading. Otherwise, gambling is only gambling.

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Skill are created within us while experience is accumulated by and give us lessons about our previous experience.  I strongly dis-agree that we cannot use skills and experience in gambling games.  They may not help us to win but at least skills and experience will save us from difficulties during gambling time.

yea gambing is only gambling we can't say it an investment program, gambling and investment has their commonly which is risk. we invest in gambling site then the win-lose condition is happening same like investing on investment programs. basically investing is an activity of putting our money on website and at the end of the time only two things will happen, we gain profit or loss. 

Agree with it , Experience will help us we only don't think of experience advantage even we say that it is luck based game experience first will set our knowledge how we will think abou that game or gambling .Its like thinking of gambling in investment or gambling in entertainment purposes.

Yeah your right experienced can help us to determined what would we do

Investing / Trading it gambling but with knowledge. Gambling is putting your money somewhere with no knowledge and just blind hope.

I'd always trade over gambling.

And always remember, on the most part, most people only tell you about their winnings not their losses so think / research hard before you commit your money anywhere

You seem to contradict yourself. Gambling does have greater risk because you are always in disadvantage. However, that does not means greater rewards. Rewards are usually calculated with the inclusion of risk level. So in the case of gambling, the risk outweigh the payout so it is always not a wise thing to gamble. And that is why investment in casino has been quite a profitable choice.

When you are just about to deposit money and live the money for the interest it called investment but putting money for casino just to play its like big investment because you we're the one who gonna play for it even the big risk your will face to be honest it is not that easy to win in gambling you need to have a luck and good skills when you are playing poker game. We can't even assured the straight win that every ones to get.

The time when gambling and investment are the same is making a capital that no assurance that make a profit. Investing is saving a money from long period of time to make a profit, gambling is making a profit also if they win but in small period of time. They both money involve, same encounter a losing, and they need to allot a time.

This is because we think for earning a money and investing and gambling are one way to make this. Investing will use for securing the future while money from gambling is easy to consume. Between the similarities and differce, the diffence is more many.

You have a higher chance of making a profit from investment because you can choose what kind of investment you want, in contrast to gambling which luck is the primary factor. And with investment, you can set a time frame for how long you want to invest and set a target profit before taking profits. Both have risks involved, but that's as far as their similarity lies.

Gambling is not an investment, but a gamble. There you will be faced with two choices between losing or winning in a game. While investing, it means as we invest a capital that certainly hope will multiply for the future. In this case it may be a bit thin between gambling and investing because both instill mdal at the beginning
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There is no way that gambling can be seen as any type of investment, with investments you are guaranteed some profits after everything. But with gambling the is no guarantee you can win or lose everything.

I think it could be but it would be considered as a very risky investment. There is always some risk to any kind of investment whether it be a sure thing or something that is new to the world and you believe in it. You could try to control your gambling ways in order to be more efficient in making a profit for it.

Many people have tried placing odds of 1.01 and 1.02 with high stakes and thinking that it was gonna be a good investment because they thought to add 1 or 2% to their balance this way. Unfortunately no one of them have come victorious in this game. This way gambling can never be considered as an investment. Gambling just like the name says is a gamble, you either lose or win no other outcome.

i think if we make an investment in gambling industry, we use gambling as our investment but we don't playing the games and only deposit our money as investment. but we should realize that making investment in gambling industry have a big risk to because no one know when the site or the place will be scam or still paying the investor.

I do not want to risk my capital at any cost with gambling. Moreover people will never find returns from this investment, still people are ready to call it is a high-risk investment type  :o. I just wonder how people are believing in to an one way investment. Honestly I like to call gambling is not an investment just a spending.

In short, we invest into gambling with the expectation of making good fortune which might lead to life changing. But gambling just gives frustration in returns, but people are not ready to blaming gambling but calling it a high-risk investment opportunity.

At this very moment all I can think of gambling is like a donation, traditional casinos were the greediest donation receivers they just rigged and cheated in every single game, at least now we have provably fair.

There is nothing to learn in gambling other than finding out how greedy you are and how gullible you could become, you could always try to study about investment strategies by using demo accounts in forex and stocks markets.

GAMBLING can never be as same as investing because there are always house edges and you can never ever beat them. The more you play,the more money you lose. Therefore, I suggest you should stay away from gambling and start looking for other true investing programs

yeah. investing is basically a more responsible way to handle your money when it comes to the end result. gambling will always be more fun compared to investing but for serious money matters, gambling is not an option

Gambling is really not an option when we do plan on making money on longer terms because this is just good when it comes to leisure times and make release on some stress.This is only the way that gambling should be treated and it would only comes like to an investment when we do already putting up our money on the bankroll of the gambling site.

Gambling can never be part of investing as it is not even should be considered as a way to earn a single cent. Yes, gambling can gain your wealth of unimaginable proportions, but this is totally impossible to reach as in the long run you will likely lose more money than you will earn. So never ever think that gambling can be a way of earning anything.

There are instances wherein gambling and investing  have some similarities. They both involve risk, gambling more so, but risky nonetheless. It's putting on money on someone else's hand hoping that you have some returns but in gambling hoping for a return is due to chance while investment is due to certain circumstances like inflation. But despite these similarities they have a big difference. In gambling, even if you produce a large sum of money there's no guarantee that you will get something in return. While in investing, producing money means owning a share of that company. Even if its slow sometimes to get returns at least you'll still get something out of it.

You can take the advantage of those house edges if you can't beat, since most of the casino's are offering some good opportunity for being an investor to them. I think gambling can be a real investment by this way, you will be with the house by just simply letting them use your capital and they will restore it to you soon with some little profit or interest.