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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Gleb Gamow on November 23, 2016, 01:09:00 AM



Title: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 23, 2016, 01:09:00 AM
This thread is dedicated to exposing those associated with eBoost: https://t.co/d3ujUbEvjm

http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/trading/new-esports-cryptocurrency-begins-crowdfunding-on-bittrex-eboost/

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The International eBoost Society has announced a new cryptocurrency for use in the growing eSports field, according to its co-founders Marshall Long, Nicholas Thomas and Lionel Iruke.  The eBoost token will be used as an in-game cryptocurrency to facilitate wagering in player-to-player matches.

The Society is responsible for the creation, maintenance and promotion of the eBoost software token, which will initially be used by the eSports site Mockit, which has received more than five million replays on Amazon.com’s Twitch.tv.

The token is being created by a development team led by cryptocurrency developer Jim Blasko. BitAngels founder Michael Terpin is also an investor and advisor.

Let's see who owns Mockit: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/mockit-e-sports/advisors

https://i.imgur.com/64m92A0.png

In essence, we have a PR firm affiliated with both eBoost and Muckit, with the latter giving cred to the former so to amass IPO/ICO moneys to be divided between all the principles while both entities are no longer supported because said principles have already moved on to their next scams designed to further fleece the cryptocurrency community, an MO that has yet to fail them in spite how many times, or how large red flags have been erected.

https://angel.co/leonel-iruke

https://i.imgur.com/Slls8o4.png

https://angel.co/mock-it-e-sports/activity

https://i.imgur.com/EkusY0Q.jpg

I find the spelling of Mock-it e-Sports curious.

Moreover, I find the spelling of Iruke even more interesting: http://calvinayre.com/2016/06/24/business/what-i-gaming-investors-need-to-know-but-were-afraid-to-ask-about-e-sports/

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This is a guest contribution by Lionel Iruk, Esq. If you would like to submit a contribution please contact Bill Beatty for submission details.

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Marshall Long CEO of Mock-it-E-sports, one of the largest niche E-Sports tournament providers and an e-sports consultancy for the gaming industry; Mock-it organizes, livestreams, and supports the E-Sports gaming industry at gamer and the corporate level; he states that the world wide e-sports market reached more than 200 million viewers across all continents, in 2015.

The following image is from the same page that the above two quotes were gleaned, cementing the spelling of Iruk oppose to Iruke:

https://i.imgur.com/KvHWhh4.jpg

For the life of me, I can't figure out how an educated dude can spell his name incorrectly. The following was gleaned from Lionel's official website: https://empirelegal.wordpress.com/

https://i.imgur.com/73trOC3.png

https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/3964/631ccdf54de61c1f.pdf

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On Saturday, October 11, 2014, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

Dave, this is Leo, the most talented attorney I have seen in this space.

I would like him to take a look at our corporate restructuring plans, please send them over Leo, assuming there is a good match here, I would like to keep this out of final hash and work with you directly. Thanks! --

Sent from Gmail Mobile “The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and any attachments from your system.” --

Leo Iruke, Esq., Attorney at Law EMPIRE LEGAL PLLC, A Global Advisory Firm
8303 SOUTHWEST FRWY, SUITE 900 HOUSTON, TX 77074
leoslaw@gmail.com
(713).771.0300 (tel) (713).490.9080 (fax)

The dude is so fuckin' talented, he can't even choose what name to use, akin to Einstein not knowing simple math because he, too, was so fuckin' talented. Also, for being so motherfuckin' talented in this space, it's amazing how Leo, or whatever his fuckin' name is this week, continues to affiliate himself with scams.

If that weren't enough spellings of Leo's name, how 'bout this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14334654#msg14334654




Did Marshall Long help broker the deal as he's been known to do in the past leaving the data center's coffer much lighter?

No we didn't get scammed by him until later in 2014. The Black Arrow debacle was a combo of BA themselves being crooked, and Matt Carson deciding to make a shit situation worse. I'm honestly surprised his name hasn't surfaced yet in the sea of shit emerging from the crypto space... I know he was more on the ASIC and hardware side but this space is too small for him to not have been tied into all this mess with XPY, Cryptsy, etc.

Even Marshall Long's partner, Leonnel Chukwuka Iruke (Leo "Chewbacca" Iruke) is a scum bucket. Don't forget that it was Leo who drew up the plans for Josh Garza to escape to Dubai, perhaps as Bruce Fenton's neighbor given that Bruce is friends with Marshall hence being invited to the "Satoshi Roundtable" recently in spite of all efforts by myself, among others, warning Bruce that Marshall's a piece of shit from the word go.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118460190

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Well way back before Adrian Thomas got involved in Stock Tips he had already developed a business association with fellow Houston, Texas resident Leonnel Chukwuka Iruke.

The two of them were officers/directors together in 2005 in a non-stock related Texas business entity called Refi Wiz Inc

http://www.texascorporates.com/corp/154308.html

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Houston/refi-wiz-inc/36929489.aspx

How much further back their association goes before 2005, I am not sure yet. Maybe they had other businesses together? Maybe they went to school together? Still trying to sort that out.

This is the same Leonnel C Iruke that would later do legal work for APS promoted and Aaron Lamkin and Jeffrey Smuda linked Mistral Ventures Inc (MILV)

http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=MILV&id=32696

The same Leonnel C Iruke that represented Awesome Penny Stocks in March of 2012 when they filed a lawsuit against TBX for stealing their mailing list when Dino Paolucci left the APS family.

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/aps-takes-tbx-to-court/

The same Leonnel C Iruke that in March of 2012 sent a letter to the IHUB demanding that certain IHUB posts mentioning the name John Babikian be taken down

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/awesome-penny-stocks-the-walls-come-tumbling-down/

When John Babikian's ex-wife sued him, she mentioned Leonnel Iruke's name several times in her lawsuit and said of him that Leonnel Iruke is John Babikian's personal attorney and works almost exclusively for John Babikian making him readily available to jump on a plane and meet Babikian in any part of the world at the drop of a hat.

When Babikian declared Bankruptcy for two of his four companies he owned in Quebec during a 2010 audit conducted by the Minister of Revenue of Quebec. As part of that Bankruptcy, Babikian came up with $550,000 in debt for 9173-8153 Quebec Inc ($300,000 was listed as being owed to Leonnel Iruke and the other $250,000 owed to a company called Nick Thomas Ltd).


Iruke would even end up moving his practice from Texas out to California where Babikian had a big presence and APS operations were focused out of for a while, but also near where our Iqbal Saran is located. Other names out of this area linked to Saran/APS were Shehzad Peermahomed and Karim Rawji.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=117731032

I'm not sure if Iruke is in California now. For all I know he took his millions he made as a key insider for these paid promotion guys and moved to Europe or Asia or some tropical paradise.

I just thought that was interesting that Iruke can be linked to Adrian Thomas of Stock Tips as far back as 2005 (possibly even earlier than that) and that he also became a major presence for Awesome Penny Stocks/Babikian. It is just more information that supports that the same people were backing Stock Tips and Awesome Penny Stocks and other major promoters. They just keep shuffling through paid promoters like changing shirts to help them to sell the free trading stock they own in all these paid promotion tickers they secretly set-up/control. One paid promoter falls they just get behind another one making that new promoter great.

Ulrik Debo and Adrian Thomas ran Stock Tips but its the big money guys that made Stock Tips great. John Babikian and Eric Van Nguyen ran Awesome Penny Stocks but it was the big money guys that made them great.

It's not the paid promoter that is any where near as important as who the big money people are that set-up and control these shells and back the promoter. Names like Iqbal Saran, Luis Carrillo, Gregg Mulholland, Scott Gelbard, Aaron Lamkin, Phil Kueber, Robert Shull, Joseph Padilla, etc.

You can bet your bottom satoshi that Leo Iruke and Marshall Long are neck deep in nefarious activities pertaining to Bitcoin, with the same true for any and all cryptocurrency-based endeavors even loosely affiliated with them.

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Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 23, 2016, 03:13:00 AM
tl;dr version @ this 2+ min. YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByaotgIddOI At the end of the video you'll realize that that's how Marshall Long + Leo "Chewbacca" Iruke et al. boosted eBoost prior to it tanking after the IPO, enriching only themselves, leaving their non-astute marks-cum-investors with nothing but jizz on their chinny-chin-chins.

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http://promotionstocksecrets.com/awesome-penny-stocks-the-walls-come-tumbling-down/ (my highlights will be in bold red)

2013-10-25 at 9.12.43 PM
25 OCT AWESOME PENNY STOCKS – THE WALLS COME TUMBLING DOWN
Posted at 21:06h in Open, Promoter Information   by   nodummy

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Screen-Shot-2013-10-21-at-10.34.18-AM.png

Last week we wrote a report about the breaking news of Awesome Penny Stocks closing down its doors (http://promotionstocksecrets.com/awesomepennystocks-done/).  In the days that have followed some major details have been coming to light that help verify information posted by yours truly way back in 2011 about the main individuals behind Awesome Penny Stocks and bridges the “old regime” to the “new regime” helping to give us a much clearer picture of the entire Awesome Penny Stocks cartel.

All old IHUB posts that mentioned the names John Babikian and/or Robert Kalfayan as Awesome Penny Stock insiders were removed some time in 2012 including several of my posts.  I’ve been having a discussion about it with the IHUB admins and  through hours of research, they were able to piece together details about the how the posts were removed.  In March of 2012, the IHUB received a Cease and Desist letter from attorney Leonnel Iruke (more on him later in this report) demanding that a specific list of posts be removed from the IHUB website.   In the Cease and Desist letter Leonnel Iruke threatened to file legal charges against 3 IHUB posters including yours truly.  The IHUB refused to give in to the demands of the Cease and Desist letter and remove the posts.  Not satisfied by the response from the IHUB, some time over the next few weeks the IHUB website was hacked and the targeted content was deleted through an old exploit that doesn’t exist anymore.  All of the posts that were included in the Cease and Desist letter were removed through the hacking.  The posts all included the names John Babikian, Eric Van Nguyen, Jad Tabara (aka Jad Tabari), or Robert Kalfayan.  Several posts that I authored on the IHUB starting in December of 2011 naming these individuals (mainly Babikian and Kalfayan) as key Awesome Penny Stock insiders were part of the maliciously removed posts.   I’m told once the exact nature of how the posts were removed is solved the posts will be restored and I’ll be able to link them into this report.  In 2011 I also sent my research naming John Babikian and Robert Kalfayan as key Awesome Penny Stock insiders to the FBI and SEC who obviously didn’t use the information for any immediate action.

Basically what I found in December of 2011 is that Robert Kalfayan authored many of the early spam emails sent out by Awesome Penny Stocks and the Awesome Penny Stock sites were all hosted on a server that was owned by John Babikian.  Robert Kalfayan had a history of spam.  He was named with his brother, Jirayr, in litigation (http://www.oreilly.com/spamkings/MSFT-vs-Myauctionbizbiz.pdf) for his role in an illegal spam operation in 2005.  John Babikian was already involved in his own website business called bargainoo.com as well as some porn sites.  Rumor had it that the Awesome Penny Stock mailing list was built from the old Skymark Media mailing list and then added to through the use of sites owned by John Babikian and the hacking of other sites to obtain their mailing lists.

John Babikian worked hard to keep his name a secret.  Besides hacking the IHUB to have posts mentioning him removed through some exploits he also threatened a lawsuit (http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/121012-Demand-Ltr-to-SA.pdf) and pressured Seeking Alpha to take down an article about Awesome Penny Stocks written by infitialis that included the names John Babikian and Robert Kalfayan.  That unedited report can still be found at this link (http://investorshangout.com/post/133478/-Pristine-Solutions-PRTN-OB-is-an-obvious-short-gi#axzz2iSz2jnUN).

The following are pictures of John Babikian (bald head bottom left in the first and on the right in the second and third).  The second and third photos were provided courtesy of Le Journal de Montreal (http://www.journaldemontreal.com/):

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/148827_173409606006168_5327742_n-600x400.jpg

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1310853260939_ORIGINAL.jpg

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1297482346202_ORIGINAL.jpg
 
Robert Kalfayan is the one on the left in the following photo:

http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/534699_10150740836077527_920499518_n-600x450.jpg

Yesterday evening fellow stock sleuth and researcher, infitialis (https://twitter.com/infitialis_), was able to gain access to the sealed Quebec court documents filed by Babikian's wife [Alima Beg], who is suing her former husband, John Babikian, and was kind enough to pass those documents on to me.  View those  court documents here (http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/quebec_court_document_babikian_20131024e.pdf).  In those court documents, Alima Beg discloses her husband made over $100 million running Awesome Penny Stocks and also exposes several of his off shore accounts and business practices including the following:

Middlebay Trade Ltd incorporated by Babikian in the Seychelles holds a secondary residence located at 642 N. Laurel Avenue, Los Angeles, California. The Laurel Avenue house was purchased in December 2010 for $2.2 million and is now estimated by Zillow to be worth $2.7 million.

Oriwa Villas Ltd holds for Babikian his property located at 1401 Londonberry Pl, Los Angeles, California.  The Londonderry house was purchased in March 2012 for $6 million and is currently estimated to be worth $10.5 million by Zillow.

Arrow Import & Export Corporation incorporated by Babikian in the British Virgin Islands holds bank accounts for Babikian at Hong Kong HSBC believed to be his principal accounts.

John Jack Ventures Ltd which is incorporated in the Bahamas and hold Babikian’s seven condos located at The Reef Atlantis, in Nassau, Bahamas.  Babikian used a alias John Jack to make the purchases.

9264-5076 Quebec Inc which holds three lots located in Le Domaine des Berges, Laval, Quebec that Babikian acquired to build a new family residence.

9224-1249 Quebec Inc [Bargainoo Inc] is a company that is related to domain www.bargainoo.com created and operated by Babikian.

Vertical International Relief Fund is an account used by Babikian for flying around the world in a private Gulfstream jet.

Tidal East Global Relief Fund holds shares of Energy Telecom (ENRG) for Babikian (I had a post about Babikian’s share ownership in ENRG on the IHUB that mysteriously got removed along with all other posts named John Babikian and/or Robert Kalfayan as Awesome Penny Stock insiders).  On May 14, 2012, ENRG became the subject of an “APS fakeout promotion” and saw a giant intraday spike in price.  My post about this “APS fakeout” linked to Babikian and Kalfayan has now been restored and can be seen here (http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=79380336).

Antica Ventures Ltd which holds a bank account for Babikian at the Belize Bank International Limited in Belize and shares in the company WOW Brands.
 
Kenora Overseas holds shares in RGMS Media Beeyoo for Babikian.

Monolith Ventures Ltd holds shares in YS Catering LLC / The Fresh Diet for Babikian.

Normandia Capital Corp holds shares in CBS Food, T-Grip and Skora, and some shares in ENRG for Babikian.

Fellow Trading Ltd holds shares in Ayala Herbal Water for Babikian.

Nottingham Capital Corp holds shares in Robofusion Inc/Puffin Innovations Inc for Babikian.

Montblue Commerce holds shares in Copa di Vina for Babikian.

One Berger Circle Holdings was used by Babikian to funnel money in order to build the family residence located at 445 des Anemones, Laval, Quebec.

Mediasky Holdings Ltd is a company recently incorporated in Belize by Babikian.

Liner Investments Ltd is a company recently incorporated in Seychelles Island by Babikian.

Intelligent Alliance Corp is a company recently incorporated in Seychelles Island by Babikian.

Aurora Intour Ltd is a company recently incorporated in Seychelles Island by Babikian.

Microtech Ventures Limited held bank accounts for Babikian.

9248-3247 Quebec Inc holds the pent house condominium located at 1300 Alain-Grandbois #702, Montreal, Quebec which was previously owned by Babikian but later ownership was transferred to an associate of Babikian named Alexandre Salameh who was possibly acting as a nominee for Babikian.

Besides his love for luxury homes and luxury condos, Babikian also splurged his ill gotten gains on cars.  His collection included a 2008 Bugatti Veyron (the fastest and most expensive car in the world), a 2010 BMW X6, a 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo, and a 2010 Bentley Continent, estimated to be worth C$1.5m.
Alima Beg also claims that Babikian has formed or is in the process of forming companies in the Bahamas, the Seychelles Islands, St. Kitts, Nevis, Panama, Hong Kong, the British Virgin Islands, and Belize among possibly many others.  Alima Beg told the courts that John Babikian is in the process of founding a bank in Guatemala so that he will be able to conduct banking transactions with impunity and not face expulsion by legitmate banks that do not want to handle his large and unexplained transactions.  Babikian has already been expelled by the Royal Bank of Canada, HSBC in Switzerland, and the Bank of Montreal.

The court document lists the following bank accounts connected to John Babikian (which are no doubt only a portion of the accounts in controls around the world):

- Checking account number 002141277287 at the Bank of America, 7900 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles (routing numbers 122000661 and 121000358)

- Bank Accounts numbered 640-1447050838 and 640-144705-380 at HSBC in Hong Kong

- Bank Accounts numbered 62482800001 and 62482800002 at Compagnie Monegasque de Banque, 23 avenue de la Costa, Monaco, 98000

- Bank Account at CIBC First Caribbean Wealth Management Center, Shirley Street Branch, in Nassua, Bahamas

- Bank Account at the Belize Bank International Limited, The Matalon Business Center, 2nd floor, Coney Drive, Belize City, Belize

- Bank Account at the Belize Bank, 60 Market Square, Belize City, Belize

- Bank Accounts at Bank of Valletta p.l.c. in Valletta, Malta

- Bank account at Me Leonnel Iruke IOLTA account, PLLC Omnisource Legal, in Houston, Texas, Wells Fargo Bank account number 8353698486

- Deposits in Me Michel Gauthier’s trust account in Terrebonne, Quebec

In the court document, Alima Beg says that Babikian fled Canada around one year ago moving to Monaco.  Babikian applied for citizenship in several countries and is currently a citizen of Canada, Lebanon, Nevis, and Guatemala.   She fears that between his personal jet and multiple citizenships that he will now be nearly impossible for authorities to catch.  And just imagine, back in 2011 when some of my information about Babikian was first being sent to the authorities, Babikian could have easily been picked up right in Montreal or Los Angeles.

Also interesting in the court document is that Alima Beg talks about how Babikian declared Bankruptcy for two of his four companies he owned in Quebec during a 2010 audit conducted by the Minister of Revenue of Quebec.  As part of that Bankruptcy, Babikian came up with $550,000 in debt for 9173-8153 Quebec Inc ($300,000 was listed as being owed to Leonnel Iruke and the other $250,000 owed to a company called Nick Thomas Ltd) and $175,000 in debt for 9195-5948 Quebec Inc all owed to a company allegedly located in Florida called First Spectacle Corp.

Leonnel Iruke is the same attorney that sent the IHUB a Cease and Desist letter to try to get posts naming John Babikian and his associates removed from the IHUB.  His name is another name that has shown up often in our research reports.  Iruke was an insider for former APS pick, MILV, as well as the attorney that represented Awesome Penny Stocks in two separate lawsuits.  See reports located here, here (including comments), and here for more details.  Leonnel Iruke operates under the legal name Omnisource Legal Group.  Alima Beg says that Leonnel Iruke is John Babikian’s personal attorney and works almost exclusively for John Babikian making him readily available to jump on a plane and meet Babikian in any part of the world at the drop of a hat.   Leonnel Iruke’s partner, Emeka Uyamadu, has a criminal conviction (http://web.archive.org/web/20161123184915/http://adserv.stocksite.com/images/pubdocs/misc/UyamaduInterlocutory.pdf) and had his license to practice law suspended.  Last year Emeka Uyamadu was disbarred (https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=151887).

Alima Beg says that Michel Gauthier is John Babikian’s personal attorney in Quebec and that Gauthier would often help Babikian channel money through Gauthier’s trust account.

A similar but less detailed court document was also filed by Alima Beg in California found here (http://promotionstocksecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/178158939-John-Babikian-Exposed.pdf).

All this week Montreal reporter, Jean-François Cloutier (http://www.journaldemontreal.com/auteur/jean-francois-cloutier) has been doing articles disclosing information about John Babikian and the lawsuit against him.  I had the pleasure of communicating with Mr. Cloutier some before the articles came out.

<the following was gleaned from http://web.archive.org/web/20131029124350/http://promotionstocksecrets.com/awesome-penny-stocks-the-walls-come-tumbling-down due to a pay wall now in place>
 
Our Interpretation

In some of my old research from 2011 I did definitively link John Babikian, Robert Kalfayan, Eric Van Nguyen, AJ Thompson, Jay Fung, and others to Awesome Penny Stocks.  I believed that Eric Van Nguyen was the mastermind possibly still working under the guidance of previous powerful associates like Tony Papa and Alex Barta.   I thought John Babikian and Robert Kalfayan were involved in the web hosting and spamming part of the organization.  It turns out that John Babikian was quite possibly the key/main guy behind Awesome Penny Stocks.
 
We are still unsure at what point Eric Van Nguyen sold Awesome Penny Stocks to John Babikian or if Eric actually stayed involved.  We know that when Dino Paolucci of The Bull Exchange (TBX) was sued by Awesome Penny Stocks in the spring of 2012, Dino believed that Eric was still involved. Dino and Eric at one time used to work together.  It is my personal belief that Eric Van Nguyen did stay involved and did make a very large amount of money like Babikian, but he did it without pissing off any women.

We have lots of research that backs up our beliefs that Aaron Lamkin and Scott Gelbard became very key players in the Awesome Penny Stocks organization at least as early as the summer of 2011.  We published our original research (http://web.archive.org/web/20131208034527/http://promotionstocksecrets.com/a-banned-stock-promoters-noteworthy-connection-to-aps/) about Lamkin and Gelbard in early 2012.  More recently with the help of some research from infitialis we were able to take that research much further in this report (http://web.archive.org/web/20131106050844/http://promotionstocksecrets.com/a-closer-look-at-the-awesome-penny-stocks-cartel) that led to a cyber attack (http://promotionstocksecrets.com/promotion-stock-secrets-comments-on-recent-dos-attack/) against the Promotion Stock Secrets website.

So let’s break it all down:

- 1) In 2010, all Awesome Penny Stock promotions were run by the Babikian/Kalfayan crew (and likely Eric Van Nguyen too).

- 2) Initially they would team up with different groups that owned the Shell/Stock and controlled the structure and get paid a % of profits.

- 3) This was the beginning years that Babikian used his BMO Account because he was still young and did not understand the level of sophistication he would need to protect his identity and business. So in these years millions of dollars were run through the BMO Accounts, at which point BMO became suspicious, filed an SAR (Suspicous Activity Report) with Tax Authority and AMF. They demanded explanations from Babikian, his explanations were not satisfactory. Babikian in an effort to avoid any tax on his income moved assets around from his BMO account to offshore under the impression of “LOANS” this was in his first 2 years when he made $11.5 million.

- 4) From then on Babikian decided to work only offshore with Bank Gutenberg (http://web.archive.org/web/20131029124350/http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=84715118) and more importantly formed a relationship/partnership with a US group for the stock/shell side of things because of difficulties they would run into with getting cooperation on the timing of the press releases and other sensitive issues that could help the share price.  This is when the Colorado Group got involved – Scott Gelbard/Aaron Lamkin/Anthony Kerrigone.  It was a match made in heaven as Babikian allegedly had a wine cellar containing a million in wine and Aaron Lamkin married into a very successful wine family.  Many APS shells after this time would end up having some connection to wine.  Scott Gelbard and Aaron Lamkin took care of the shell structure and the depositing of stock.  Here is where they begin to make SERIOUS money.  While this group did trading they all communicated via encrypted blackberries and would sell the stock from a shared account.  We believe that Babikian, Gelbard, and Lamkin all got a cut of the profits with Babikian getting the largest cut.  Kerrigone made his money by going short when they told him to stop supporting the promotion through Wilson Davis (WDCO).  It appears that Kerrigone is a good trader shorting penny stocks but in reality he’s taking his payment for his role in the Awesome Penny Stock cartel that way.  Learn more about Kerrigone and WDCO in this report (http://web.archive.org/web/20131112104845/http://promotionstocksecrets.com/promotion-secrets-aps-wdco/).  Kerrigone has since changed firms and now does his work through market maker BMAK.

- 5) Babikian begins to make so much money he doesn’t care about his Canadian Assets.  He lets the tax authority judgements default because he has a fortune of as much as $100mm offshore in Bank Gutenberg.

- 6) Babikian foolishly thinks he can buy assets in the USA, Los Angeles because he believes only the Canadian TAX authorities are out for him.  He doesn’t know AMF, OSC, BCSC, SEC, and FBI are also after him.  He buys one property and then another property in LA ($8.25mm CASH for both houses).

- 7) At some point, probably connected with the move to LA, the marriage between  Alima Beg and  Babikian breaks down.  We heard Babikian cheated on his wife with LA girls (who knows) and she was his most trusted confidante. For years he told her all his secrets. As they say a woman scorned, she asks him for a divorce, and requests half his assets. He probably told her he had $100mm and so she asks for $50mm. Babikian tells her she isn’t getting anything and begins to transfer assets to his name even the $8.25mm in the LA properties.  According to the lawsuit Babikian even goes as far as to hack her emails and facebook account in August of 2013.

- 8) A big fight ensues, and Alima Beg naively decides she is going after him without realizing that by going after him she exposes him and all the assets/money will be seized by the government.

- 9) Alima Beg files lawsuits in LA, Hong Kong, and Quebec against Babikian.

Now the secrets are out.  The lawsuits filed by Alima against Babikian no doubt hurt Awesome Penny Stocks, but we believe that it was only one of many factors that took down Awesome Penny Stocks eventually leading to the promotional giant announcing its door were closing on October 21, 2013.  Other factors for the retirement were:

A new commitment/interest by the FBI and SEC as well as foreign regulators which in the past all seemed to mysteriously ignore Awesome Penny Stocks allowing them to operate untouched.  There is no question that the FBI has really started looking closely at Awesome Penny Stocks now.
 
The latest offshore clearing firm used by Awesome Penny Stocks and others, Bank Guttenberg AG, was rendered useless by the regulators who have been bombarding the fake bank with requests for information.
 
The Berlin stock exchange which has hosted every APS pick for almost 2 years has been taken out of play.  Thanks to an active investigation, the Berlin stock exchange has not accepted a single new OTC ticker in more than 2 months.

The George Sharp lawsuits brought a level of negative attention to Awesome Penny Stocks that they hadn’t had to deal with in the past.

The SEC has placed a big target on the back of Awesome Penny Stock tickers.  The last two APS tickers, PWEI and PCWT, have both gotten suspended.  There is little doubt that the next APS ticker would have gotten suspended also.

So far to date all of the Awesome Penny Stock sites have been taken down, but the Victory Mark sites remain.  It is no secret that Victory Mark is run by much of the same group involved in Awesome Penny Stocks so we’ll be surprised if Victory Mark continues to function much longer.  The regulators know they are connected and so do all investors.  The latest developments surrounding Awesome Penny Stocks will carry over to Victory Mark in more ways than one.

The walls have come tumbling down.

Special Thanks to infitialis for their contributions over the past few months.

10/26/13 UPDATE

This morning I received a message from the IHUB admin that all 30 posts that were inexplicably and maliciously removed have been restored.

The following is a list of the 30 posts that John Babikian had removed through the hacking of the IHUB website: <go to http://promotionstocksecrets.com/awesome-penny-stocks-the-walls-come-tumbling-down/ to get the links for the post #s, thus saving me some time in linking them myelf>

10/28/11 post # 17318 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
12/11/11 post # 19234 by nodummy on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
12/13/11 post # 19312 by nodummy on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
12/29/11 post # 1369 by samsamsamiam on North Springs Resources
12/29/11 post # 20027 by nodummy on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
12/30/11 post # 2929 by zomniac on North Springs Resources
12/31/11 post # 2997 by zomniac on North Springs Resources
01/03/12 post # 3706 by samsamsamiam on North Springs Resources
01/09/12 post # 5519 by zomniac on North Springs Resources
01/12/12 post # 6629 by samsamsamiam on North Springs Resources
01/13/12 post # 6699 by samsamsamiam on North Springs Resources
02/13/12 post # 22104 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
02/15/12 post # 12932 by samsamsamiam on North Springs Resources
02/28/12 post # 5075 by janice shell on America West Resources, Inc.
03/02/12 post # 22819 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
03/09/12 post # 23257 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
04/21/12 post # 24713 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
05/05/12 post # 25109 by nodummy on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
05/10/12 post # 25309 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
06/26/12 post # 27681 by scion on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
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06/26/12 post # 27686 by scion on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
06/26/12 post # 27692 by scion on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
06/26/12 post # 27693 by scion on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
06/26/12 post # 27704 by DaReal on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
06/29/12 post # 27856 by samsamsamiam on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
08/17/12 post # 29695 by EastCoastCdn on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
09/09/12 post # 31021 by nodummy on DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team
09/27/12 post # 276726 by Nilbud on STOCKGOODIES PLAYS OF THE WEEK
10/01/12 post # 5574 by Jimmy777 on Eaton Scientific Systems, Inc.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 23, 2016, 05:30:32 AM
ROFLMMAO!!! I just found that author I quoted above did an update, with a nice percentage of the material provided by ... wait for it ... some dude named Gleb.  :P http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=121113643

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This is interesting

The youtube account that hosted the last ever Stock Tips video from when they ran the SAFSD subpenny promo also hosts a video for sportsadvisors.ch which was a sports betting website that you paid to make sports betting picks for you (but they only bet on tennis). The video which uses the voice of Mike Statler claimed to have an algorithm created by a Swiss statistician that was accurate 87% of the time turning $11,234 into $567,345 over a 20 month testing period. I say was because the site is no longer online

http://www.sportsadvisors.ch/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCM6XEaQIByA1M-AzIUk6OQ

According to the following LinkedIn page, Marcelo Rios is the name of the Swiss Statistician that created the algorithm

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelo-rios-209632bb

Probably not a coincidence that a tennis player from Chile named Marcelo Rios was once the #1 player in the world in 1998

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_R%C3%ADos

A little bit interesting that during the Australian Open this past January news broke of rampant match fixing in Tennis involving some 26,000 matches since 2007

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/top-ranked-tennis-players-fixed-matches-report-article-1.2500010

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/tennis-match-fixing-qa-who-7196850

This followed other concerns of tennis gambling from 2015

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/05/the-secret-world-of-tennis-gambling.html


The sportsadvisors.ch domain was registered by Valton Eason of Houston, Texas. Houston is also the hometown of Stock Tips co-owner Adrian Thomas and Adrian Thomas' business associate, attorney Leo Iruke.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118460190


Valton Eason (aka VL Eason) is also the co-founder of a bitcoin company called Finalhash LLC

http://finalhash.com/

General counsel and CEO for Finalhash LLC is Leo Iruke. Leo Iruke has been the personal attorney to John Babikian, Awesome Penny Stocks, Adrian Thomas, Iqbal Saran, and Stock Tips in the past.


http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2016/3/11/bzvxpip.bitcointalk.org.jpg

Like with Leo Iruke and Adrian Thomas, Leo Iruke and Valton Eason go back a few years

http://www.texascorporates.com/corp/99246.html

Leo Iruke is also involved as legal counsel for an affiliated bitcoin company called GAW Miners LLC (Josh Garza)

This bit coin forum has some interesting information about Final Hash LLC and GAW Miners LLC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303147.220 <see pic below this quote>

Including this picture prepared by Leo Iruke as part of some kind of brochure/information packet allegedly mapping out the off shore money flow of these groups of bitcoin companies through Dubai and then to other places like the British Virgin Islands, Malta, Estonia, Andorra, Costa Rica, etc.


http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2016/3/11/ygeyhip.bitcointalk.org2.jpg

It sort of makes you wonder if Bitcoin is somehow playing a role in any of the money laundering activities taking place from the paid promotions.

Remember with the Stock Castle bust there were two operations going on with that group (besides the hacking) - the stock promotion stuff and the bit coin money laundering stuff:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=115586292


I see that Leo Iruke also has a nonprofit organization called LadderHouse that is closely linked to his bitcoin operations

http://ladderhouse.org/announcing/

Spoetnik, Spoetnik, Spoetnik! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303147.220 equates to the following where Spoetnik's at the top of the page with my post being second. I may have to delete a post so to gain top billing.  :P :P :P

https://i.imgur.com/6ouNWuy.png

Bullshit must run in the Babikian clan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNprqn3SME


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on November 23, 2016, 06:42:56 AM

Unreal!!!  How does any one human dig up so much shit on anyone?!?!??  Scares me just to think about it!


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: spartak_t on November 23, 2016, 09:23:08 AM

Unreal!!!  How does any one human dig up so much shit on anyone?!?!??  Scares me just to think about it!

You have no idea. I'd like to use this example:

https://i.imgur.com/yRPmvVm.jpg

Not trying to be a smartass, I'm just trying to show what I basically do when I spot a scam. If people decide to take my 'advice' and do their own research - fine, if not - it's their problem. I also consider myself as a 9th dan black belt in 'Google Fu' (cryptodevil used that definition, I laughed, and I liked it very much :)), but guys like cryptodevil, tmfp and Gleb are putting so much effort to show all the evidence they have. I had a proposal on how to make this more productive (and viral). cryptodevil is basically up to, tmfp listened, but 'disappeared', suchmoon said he/she's paranoid and later didn't responded and Gleb + Spoetnik just passed it by. :) But I'm fine with that. When people are being scammed with millions of $, you can then feel free to post another thread titled: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!".   


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on November 23, 2016, 11:25:33 AM
voxels uses this same non mineable premine shit.

jim blasko did both and it appears he's disappeared from the voxels thread since its dived down in price.

what makes me laugh is they make a coin then declare it the official coin of vr or the official coin of esports... who was in a position to declare it official and the coin of choice?

all they did was make a coin, premine the fuck out of it and run a crowdsale. they are telling gamers they need a coin and happy to sell it. this eboost shit will be a clone of voxels so check that out gleb.

if they were serious about esports they'd use an existing coin and make a service but no premine cash in that right?

marshall is a disease that needs to be removed from crypto news. his asociations with garza etc dont speak much to his character. blasko is getting shadier by the day too with his associations.

eboost, voxels, xpy, ion its all the same garbage a coin nobody asked for to solve a problem nobody had.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: spartak_t on November 23, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
spartak_t, I think I missed your proposal, hence passing it by. Please refresh my memory so that I can resee said, then with perhaps as to why I purposely brushed it aside. (not a diss, bud - would serious love to see what you proposed)

You have PM.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2016, 05:41:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYAmmbpBixk

https://i.imgur.com/ri9mAk2.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVgjB6fsmfE

https://i.imgur.com/bQxvqFU.png

Same girl.

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Registrant Street: Ste. 900
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Registrant Postal Code: 77074
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Registrant Phone: +1.8327559930
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http://listings.findthecompany.com/l/24498439/LHG-Asset-Management-LLC-in-Houston-TX

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Address:
8303 Southwest Fwy
Houston, Texas 77074-1600
United States

Christine Pham   Principal

Seln's Indiegogo campaign: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/seln-the-language-fluency-app#/

Meet Leo Iruke's other partner, Leo Hudson or Leonardo Hudson or Lairnaldo T Hudson or Lairnaldo Hudson or Lairnaldo Tramaine Hudson depending what time of day it is: https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=313109

https://i.imgur.com/DXtpPns.png

Comments:

3 years ago:

speersd: Can you clarify whether you intend to honor the pledges that were made here, if/when you do receive additional funding or when Seln reaches its ultimate goal? It’s great that you are going to keep working on it, but I don’t think that was really what was being asked.

Leo: Yes we fully intend to honor all pledges. We just ask for your patience while we continue to work on Seln with limited constraints and as we continue to secure funding. We will keep everyone updated as we move forward. Thanks for the question.

speersd: Awesome, thanks so much for the fast and thoughtful reply. I was pretty sure that was what you meant, but glad to have it stated so clearly. I’m still excited about the potential of this project, and look forward to your eventual success.

Over 2 years ago:

Jacob Matthews: Any updates? It’s been forever.

2 years ago:

Jacob Matthews: I’m glad to see that great news about investors. I hope it will be followed up soon with an estimated 2015 release date.

Over 1 year ago:

Leo: Good Day Everyone

I hope everyone had a refreshing weekend. Just to give you an update about Seln, the launch date is set for September 22nd 2015! We are working hard to get everything ready with the lessons, app, and everything else we need to make this a successful launch.

We are truly humbled and grateful that you have supported us during this time. We will keep you posted with some updates as we get closer to launch. Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks

Leonardo Hudson

The latest!

https://i.imgur.com/vHhFzxv.gif

Notice the pattern of them scammy fucks at ...

Registrant Name: Leo Iruke
Registrant Organization: Iruke & Uyamadu PLLC
Registrant Street: 8303 SW Freeway
Registrant Street: Ste. 900
Registrant City: Houston
Registrant State/Province: Texas
Registrant Postal Code: 77074
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8327559930

Nothing but motherfuckin' scam artists!


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: iamTom123 on November 24, 2016, 10:39:51 AM
Just like any other industry online, scams can be creeping in masquerading as another cryptocurrency but with just an intention to defraud people and gain some monetary rewards along the way.

We have to be careful because many scammers are now finding a way to ride with the Bitcoin bandwagon and fool people. Not all opportunities that say they are good are actually good.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 24, 2016, 03:57:48 PM
Just like any other industry online, scams can be creeping in masquerading as another cryptocurrency but with just an intention to defraud people and gain some monetary rewards along the way.

We have to be careful because many scammers are now finding a way to ride with the Bitcoin bandwagon and fool people. Not all opportunities that say they are good are actually good.

These fuckers are seasoned Bitcoiners et al. fleecing the cryptocurrency space on a continuing basis in spite of best efforts put forth by myriad sleuths. There should be an official cryptocurrency authoritah website dedicated to not only exposing these fucks, but publish on a dime each and every time a nefarious actor starts making waves in their cesspool even remotely related to any entity they're currently part of or pushing to the ill-informed.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 25, 2016, 06:52:49 AM

Unreal!!!  How does any one human dig up so much shit on anyone?!?!??  Scares me just to think about it!

Perhaps you've met my mentor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXZTmEw0qA. And yes, he's active on this forum, and yes, it was I who first brought light to that fact.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on November 25, 2016, 07:47:57 AM

Perhaps you've met my mentor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXZTmEw0qA. And yes, he's active on this forum, and yes, it was I who first brought light to that fact.

Wow, that blew me away.  What's his alias on BCT?  I may need to hire him one day.  :)


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 25, 2016, 03:50:32 PM

Perhaps you've met my mentor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXZTmEw0qA. And yes, he's active on this forum, and yes, it was I who first brought light to that fact.

Wow, that blew me away.  What's his alias on BCT?  I may need to hire him one day.  :)

<caution, humor ahead> Dude, you telling me - MAKE THAT US - that you can't even conduct a simple search on this forum for Guido <redacted>? Fuck the <redacted> part, just search for Guido with my user name. Just in case you're not the sharpest object in the 8-pack non-toxic box of crayons, your search should look like the following:

https://i.imgur.com/K3FR1g8.png

</end humor>


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on November 25, 2016, 05:13:01 PM

Perhaps you've met my mentor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXZTmEw0qA. And yes, he's active on this forum, and yes, it was I who first brought light to that fact.

Wow, that blew me away.  What's his alias on BCT?  I may need to hire him one day.  :)

<caution, humor ahead> Dude, you telling me - MAKE THAT US - that you can't even conduct a simple search on this forum for Guido <redacted>? Fuck the <redacted> part, just search for Guido with my user name. Just in case you're not the sharpest object in the 8-pack non-toxic box of crayons, your search should look like the following:

https://i.imgur.com/K3FR1g8.png

</end humor>

Hahaha.  I had the feeling he was using a different alias.  Always miss the obvious.  thx.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: kken01 on November 27, 2016, 08:51:39 PM
if anyone is interested here is the full document prepared by Leo Iruke for GAW
https://www.scribd.com/document/261925962/GAW-engagement-offshore

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Provide an attractive international framework, most amenable for a cryptocurrency based mining/cloud hosting business, which carries some degree of speculative risk [for the end user] subjecting the corporation to potential, civil suits and heavy handed governmental intervention.

indeed these people know how to take their profits and leave the losses for the masses. btw is babikian taking a page from irukes offshore document and dropping canadian and/or us citizenship. with all their stolen bitcoins they can shell out 250k to the sugar diversification fund and get citizenship in st kitss and nevis  ::)


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 07, 2016, 01:53:26 AM
Any one got any updates I am trying to write a report on eBoost anyone who has funded in them?

Questions: In your trying to write this eBoost report, will it contain commas and will it be written in past, future or presence tense? Will it be written in English for any one to read or in some other language for anyone?

Perhaps you're better at penning longer prose, hence opting to not have the following as your first post:

Does anyone have any updates? I'm in the process of writing a report on eBoost, so if any users here have participated in their program, please post or PM me your experience. Thank you in advance.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: michealrock2012 on December 22, 2016, 01:58:08 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 22, 2016, 07:25:28 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?

I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?

Yes, see my sig and invest the same amount in Hashing24 to get the same results, then do due diligence prior to your third investment.

Us scam busters do our damndest so folks like you don't loose your moneys, but you Investards continue to fund these cocksuckers, then come crying to us to help you out to get your moneys back after being scammed to hell and back, whereupon some of us do help sans payment.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: josh_halo1 on December 23, 2016, 09:24:58 PM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 24, 2016, 01:13:07 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

Okay, here's what I'll do for you two since it's so close to Christmas and all. I'm giving you one boat and two oars. Here's the instructions: Put the boat in the water. Climb in the boat. Put both oars in the water on one side of the boat. Start rowing. When you eventually reach a new shore, call the police and tell them how fuckin' stupid you were.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: game-protect on December 24, 2016, 07:10:35 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

Yes, you have legal recourse, especially as you have their names.  :)


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: jhon_wick on December 30, 2016, 03:32:45 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

My condition is the same. This looked lke a very good investment as the coin would have been accepted my major gaming platforms and it could even be traded worldwide from day one but nothing has happened and the dev's are also not returning ym emails. 


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on December 30, 2016, 07:33:59 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

My condition is the same. This looked lke a very good investment as the coin would have been accepted my major gaming platforms and it could even be traded worldwide from day one but nothing has happened and the dev's are also not returning ym emails. 

why would major game companies/platforms use it? if you ran a business would you accept a coin premined by a group? ie you do the actual use case and drive the coin so they can sell their premine. wake up!!! eboost official gaming coin my arse. its official cause marshall long says so right? if i ran a gaming company id use a coin i saw value with like bitcoin not some shit coin where my work made them money through selling their premine

wake........ up........

stop being greedy on icos hoping to make more btc. buy btc and use it. you honestly think ico groups want their own coin? fuck no they want your btc for their coin... why? why do they never want other coins hint btc has value. notice how most icos dont use the cash? they horde it and pay it to themselves.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 31, 2016, 06:27:20 PM
Here's to all the retards that'll get fucked by Marshall Long in 2017.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: corry2148 on January 01, 2017, 02:34:22 PM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

My condition is the same. This looked lke a very good investment as the coin would have been accepted my major gaming platforms and it could even be traded worldwide from day one but nothing has happened and the dev's are also not returning ym emails. 

I have invested in them as well by looking at their website I really believed that I could use their coin for betting from day one but now I think I am pretty much screwed as I don't see anything getting done and no one is returning my emails.  :(


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: jasonpeck44 on January 02, 2017, 08:49:40 AM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

My condition is the same. This looked lke a very good investment as the coin would have been accepted my major gaming platforms and it could even be traded worldwide from day one but nothing has happened and the dev's are also not returning ym emails. 

I have invested in them as well by looking at their website I really believed that I could use their coin for betting from day one but now I think I am pretty much screwed as I don't see anything getting done and no one is returning my emails.  :(

I believe I have been scammed by investing in this coin too, it looked like a great investment from their webpage we could do so much by using this coin but in the end I lost all my money and the dev's are not replying.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: meganlorr12 on January 03, 2017, 06:05:20 PM
I have invested 4 figures range into eboost ico and am starting to think I was scammed.I bought coins after I saw that their coin would be able to bet and exchange the coin and it would be adopted by major gaming platforms but I believe that I have been scammed as none of that has happened since the launch of the coin and the developers don't seem to be returning my emails. Does anyone have any advice at what I should do?


I'm in the same boat. I am a big gamer so I thought this would make a good investment because the ICO page said it would be used day one. But so far, no word from any of the developers and doesn't work on any games, much less the ones I play. I am staring to think it was just a big scam and I am going to loose all my money. Do we have any legal recourse?

My condition is the same. This looked lke a very good investment as the coin would have been accepted my major gaming platforms and it could even be traded worldwide from day one but nothing has happened and the dev's are also not returning ym emails. 

I have invested in them as well by looking at their website I really believed that I could use their coin for betting from day one but now I think I am pretty much screwed as I don't see anything getting done and no one is returning my emails.  :(

I believe I have been scammed by investing in this coin too, it looked like a great investment from their webpage we could do so much by using this coin but in the end I lost all my money and the dev's are not replying.

Guys, I have also invested in this coin for the very reason as you have, I also believed it was a very good investment as the coin would have been adopted by major gaming platforms from day one but seeing none of that happened. I am sorry for being the bearer  of bad news but this coin was just a big scam and we have lost all the money invested in this coin.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 03, 2017, 07:39:22 PM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: wrxbuzz on January 04, 2017, 05:26:20 PM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!

This scammed was hosted ico on bittrex, bittrex did this bad to their customers and made them lose money, ico investors now are pathetic baghoders. Sorry for their losses


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 04, 2017, 09:12:08 PM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!

This scammed was hosted ico on bittrex, bittrex did this bad to their customers and made them lose money, ico investors now are pathetic baghoders. Sorry for their losses

Personally, I like the part where Marshall Long, Nicholas Thomas and Lionel Iruke came to this eBoost scam thread and tore us naysayers a new asshole via addressing each and every talking point with sound reasoning as to why we were totally off-base with our assessment, whereupon we humbling apologized and moved on to say Hashing24 or, my other favorite, Voxels, not to mention LeoCoin and <insert your favorite(s) here>.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on January 05, 2017, 01:02:25 AM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!

This scammed was hosted ico on bittrex, bittrex did this bad to their customers and made them lose money, ico investors now are pathetic baghoders. Sorry for their losses

Personally, I like the part where Marshall Long, Nicholas Thomas and Lionel Iruke came to this eBoost scam thread and tore us naysayers a new asshole via addressing each and every talking point with sound reasoning as to why we were totally off-base with our assessment, whereupon we humbling apologized and moved on to say Hashing24 or, my other favorite, Voxels, not to mention LeoCoin and <insert your favorite(s) here>.

you know.... that leo iruke picture almost looks like that unidentified cryptsy sales person people asked about. the darker skinned man i mean. anyone got that picture to side by side compare. i could swear they are the same person though my memory can be fuzzy at times


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 05, 2017, 03:49:26 AM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!

This scammed was hosted ico on bittrex, bittrex did this bad to their customers and made them lose money, ico investors now are pathetic baghoders. Sorry for their losses

Personally, I like the part where Marshall Long, Nicholas Thomas and Lionel Iruke came to this eBoost scam thread and tore us naysayers a new asshole via addressing each and every talking point with sound reasoning as to why we were totally off-base with our assessment, whereupon we humbling apologized and moved on to say Hashing24 or, my other favorite, Voxels, not to mention LeoCoin and <insert your favorite(s) here>.

you know.... that leo iruke picture almost looks like that unidentified cryptsy sales person people asked about. the darker skinned man i mean. anyone got that picture to side by side compare. i could swear they are the same person though my memory can be fuzzy at times

From the desk of There's Always a Solution:

I for sure thought I would've found it here: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D1173703%22&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN0ePHi6rRAhWh5IMKHYf8ChMQ_AUICSgC&biw=1215&bih=541&dpr=1.13 (brings back memories)

I know exactly which pic you're in reference to, so give me a sec, bud.

http://threestoogespictures.info/wp-content/uploads/idiots-deluxe-three-stooges-moe-curly-larry.jpg
"To the hunt!"

http://media.coindesk.com/uploads/2016/08/Vernon.jpg
"Darker skinned man in these here parts. Yeah, I read that Reddit thread and looked into it but they were mistaken. Who are you guys again, and with what news outlet?"

EDIT: Just found it!

https://i.imgur.com/9RRHm8N.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gFsgCQQ.jpg

https://www.linkedin.com/in/thierrycharlemagne

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Thierry Charlemagne, CAMS
BSA/AML Investigator
West Palm Beach, Florida AreaFinancial Services
Previous   
Project Investors, Inc. DBA Cryptsy.com, G4S
Education   
Palm Beach State College

Experience

BSA/AML Analyst
Project Investors, Inc. DBA Cryptsy.com
January 2014 – August 2015 (1 year 8 months)Delray Beach, Florida
Develop and enhance the compliance program by working with the lines of business to mitigate compliance risks.

Verification Specialist/Public Records Researcher
G4S
April 2011 – January 2014 (2 years 10 months)West Palm Beach, Florida Area
Performed in-depth research, interviews and detailed reporting for the purposes of completing background checks.

Earned a Class CC Private Investigator Intern License for the state of Florida.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1823471/images/n-STEVE-628x314.jpg
"If Cryptsy only had at least three security experts on staff, then Paul Vernon would've had a clue as to what 3-LAs the event could've been reported to."


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on January 05, 2017, 07:15:25 AM
as i said fuzzy memory likely. 2 different people my mistake.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: wrxbuzz on January 05, 2017, 08:34:07 AM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!

This scammed was hosted ico on bittrex, bittrex did this bad to their customers and made them lose money, ico investors now are pathetic baghoders. Sorry for their losses

Personally, I like the part where Marshall Long, Nicholas Thomas and Lionel Iruke came to this eBoost scam thread and tore us naysayers a new asshole via addressing each and every talking point with sound reasoning as to why we were totally off-base with our assessment, whereupon we humbling apologized and moved on to say Hashing24 or, my other favorite, Voxels, not to mention LeoCoin and <insert your favorite(s) here>.

Bittrex should be blamed, also the naive investors. They did not research on this project, they learnt an expensive lesson, especially bitcoin is ATH


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: brenn2 on January 05, 2017, 11:01:31 AM
Just wanting to say that none of the recent Newbies is me, and am not sure if they are perhaps the same person sticking it up eBoost's ass.

That said, eBoost is a fuckin' scam!

This scammed was hosted ico on bittrex, bittrex did this bad to their customers and made them lose money, ico investors now are pathetic baghoders. Sorry for their losses

Personally, I like the part where Marshall Long, Nicholas Thomas and Lionel Iruke came to this eBoost scam thread and tore us naysayers a new asshole via addressing each and every talking point with sound reasoning as to why we were totally off-base with our assessment, whereupon we humbling apologized and moved on to say Hashing24 or, my other favorite, Voxels, not to mention LeoCoin and <insert your favorite(s) here>.

Bittrex should be blamed, also the naive investors. They did not research on this project, they learnt an expensive lesson, especially bitcoin is ATH

I am a gamer and I invested in this coin because it was hosted on bittrex. Bittrex is supposed to be a place where its safe to invest in new coins, that being said this coin actually looked like a very good investment I really believed the website as it state the coin would be adopted by major gaming platforms from launch day but none of that has happened, this coin was a big scam in which I lost my money.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 05, 2017, 05:50:57 PM
Once again, all them one-post-wonder users echoing the sentiment are not me. Yes, I've played that ploy (akin) at least a couple times on this forum, always later exposing myself, but that's not the case here. This is the ONLY account I've used in this thread. Hell, maybe it's Leroy Fodor penning all them Newbie posts to make it look like I'm talking to myself like he's on record in stating is the case, another fucking lie of his.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: owlcatz on January 05, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
I am a gamer and I invested in this coin because it was hosted on bittrex. Bittrex is supposed to be a place where its safe to invest in new coins, that being said this coin actually looked like a very good investment I really believed the website as it state the coin would be adopted by major gaming platforms from launch day but none of that has happened, this coin was a big scam in which I lost my money.

Sorry for your loss, but it's not the first time bittrex has held a scam ICO.

Anyone remember this one? https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203127460

I helped take that one down over here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753089), and let me tell you, we ALMOST didn't pull it off in time.





Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on January 07, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
dont worry marshall long and co will be back with blasko when eastercoin is released. its the "official" coin of the easter bunny and all shops selling easter goods. shops will accept it day 1. ico to be on bittrex.


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on January 08, 2017, 01:32:41 AM
so has eboost actually updated anyone on their site etc? usually an ico escrowe ala bittrex shouldnt release btc funds until they meet requirement. eboost isnt accepted day 1. bittrex SHOULD release funds back to investors. bittrex should also blacklist blasko, terpin, marshall long from future ico listings.

bittrex should require aml kyc photos etc to list icos as they do for big withdrawals.

investors should also make complaints to authorities about blasko, long, terpin and anyone else on that project. authority intervention is the only way to stop them


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Some Mouse on January 08, 2017, 05:08:18 AM
With eBoost being a scam and it being easy to determine this by examining its founders what does it say about Bittrex who eagerly hosted their ICO for them?


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 08, 2017, 05:30:32 AM
With eBoost being a scam and it being easy to determine this by examining its founders what does it say about Bittrex who eagerly hosted their ICO for them?

Is Bittrex like Havelock?


Title: Re: eBoost is a SCAM !!!
Post by: o0o0 on January 08, 2017, 08:26:57 AM
With eBoost being a scam and it being easy to determine this by examining its founders what does it say about Bittrex who eagerly hosted their ICO for them?

those scammed by eboost should report both bittrex and eboost and marshall long, jim blasko and mr terpin to the authorities.

i like bittrex as a secondary exchange but their desire is profit not proper profit. they dont do due dilligence else they would wait on delivered goals before releasing ico funds. ifyou have lost on this ico read: pissed off because nothing materialised then report all parties. they are happy to take profit but not address when they dont deliver


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: o0o0 on February 09, 2017, 06:27:17 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 09, 2017, 06:40:04 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?

I have nothing to report good, bad or indifferent, else I would, plus no contact of late, with apologies, but felt it prudent to reply to your request.

Meanwhile, enjoy my updated sig.  :o


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: milly6 on April 06, 2017, 01:24:37 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?

I have nothing to report good, bad or indifferent, else I would, plus no contact of late, with apologies, but felt it prudent to reply to your request.

Meanwhile, enjoy my updated sig.  :o

Have you heard anything about the new ICO that Blasko is involved with?


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: cryptoedu on May 17, 2017, 10:37:23 AM
eBoost (EBST) is being pumped on Bittrex now, Beware people


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: o0o0 on May 29, 2017, 10:53:14 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?

I have nothing to report good, bad or indifferent, else I would, plus no contact of late, with apologies, but felt it prudent to reply to your request.

Meanwhile, enjoy my updated sig.  :o

Have you heard anything about the new ICO that Blasko is involved with?

blaskos a crook. he gets paid but claims but im just the coin cloner its not my fault. funny how that doesnt work for drug mules... blasko is as sleezy as they come


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: o0o0 on July 23, 2017, 11:28:31 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?

I have nothing to report good, bad or indifferent, else I would, plus no contact of late, with apologies, but felt it prudent to reply to your request.

Meanwhile, enjoy my updated sig.  :o

bump so is jim blasko still a scammer with that fat dude that helped garza make his coin and go to jail? you know the one that likes to cup balls. whats his name again? im amazed hes not in jail considering how many dodgy projects hes been in


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: wwzsocki on July 25, 2017, 06:20:29 PM
How is this possible so many scams in few years and people still investing  :o  ???  ::)


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: hackg on September 08, 2017, 05:51:12 AM
How is this even still traded on Bittrex!?!?! The eboost website on CoinMarketCap is dead, another one found via google hasn't an update since Sept '16

wtf mate


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: cdtc on September 21, 2017, 12:20:04 AM
How is this possible so many scams in few years and people still investing  :o  ???  ::)

This will never end my friend.


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 21, 2017, 02:38:42 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?

I have nothing to report good, bad or indifferent, else I would, plus no contact of late, with apologies, but felt it prudent to reply to your request.

Meanwhile, enjoy my updated sig.  :o

bump so is jim blasko still a scammer with that fat dude that helped garza make his coin and go to jail? you know the one that likes to cup balls. whats his name again? im amazed hes not in jail considering how many dodgy projects hes been in

Fat dude is Marshall "Stinky" Long. I noticed he doesn't post anymore on Reddit. And most all the good conference organizers ban him from attending. I guess it's back to the spray booth in Texas for his fat stinky ass.


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: o0o0 on September 21, 2017, 11:04:47 AM
so is eboost platform open now? those ico buyers must be keen to bet on marshall long, jim blasko and michael terpins platform.

glebs on best buddy :) terms with them any update gleb?

I have nothing to report good, bad or indifferent, else I would, plus no contact of late, with apologies, but felt it prudent to reply to your request.

Meanwhile, enjoy my updated sig.  :o

bump so is jim blasko still a scammer with that fat dude that helped garza make his coin and go to jail? you know the one that likes to cup balls. whats his name again? im amazed hes not in jail considering how many dodgy projects hes been in

Fat dude is Marshall "Stinky" Long. I noticed he doesn't post anymore on Reddit. And most all the good conference organizers ban him from attending. I guess it's back to the spray booth in Texas for his fat stinky ass.

so whens he go to jail with blasko for not delivering that eboost platform and stealing ico money?


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: dianamid on October 12, 2017, 04:40:01 PM
Now, EBST partnered with Mock-it league, ebst on discord, and okt. 20 at coinagenda..
What do u think now?


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: weaselciuy on October 17, 2017, 12:00:29 AM
i cant believe they are back.

Same website still, with 2016 news....

fucking hell, its quite bad. People get suckered into this and adios scam later...

Any way to help i would...

they got 2 forum threads already and mock-up twitter stuff etc


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: specimen23 on October 29, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
if you see the charts on bittrex lately, you would agree that this eboost looks like a pump and dump coin.i didnt know this until i started trading on them recently. After i make my profits, this would probably be the last time i trade with them, until the developers show some sincerity.


Title: Re: Is eBoost a SCAM ???
Post by: Hypocalese on November 22, 2017, 05:47:49 PM
I think eBoost is a Legit coin and has a growing gaming community backing it.  I will keep tabs on this coin and see how things develop.