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Hi There,
I want to ask Lutpin and Lauda, should I not be given a single chance to modify myself ? In my campaign before byteball I had done pretty well and here is the proof by the owner himself :


Please Lutpin and Lauda, give me one chance by removing the negative trust. I do not think that I am entitled to join a signature campaign, instead I was just trying to know the reason. I am extremely sorry for all.
I apologize and I swear I will not repeat this in future.

Please give me one chance ?
~Regards

Wouldn't it be best to PM them directly instead of taking up space or put this in off topic or something there is no way this belongs here and I gotta agree with Lutpin looking at your past post history its like every single post is one long line. But this thread I think proves the point of Lutpin, you think you deserve to be in a signature campaign. and your broken english/apology makes this very difficult for me to understand 

Messaging : I tried
Posts: You do not have any idea so better wait.
English : I know much better than you can expect.
Topic : I was advised to do this. Below is the quote.

Where are the ratings you left them?

I deleted them when vod said I should delete them and I should not wait for someone before I do something . Hope they will give me a chance to have my account back to normal.

because you only rejected in signature campaign
you give manager campaign lutphin and yahoo red trust(sent feedback)
although this now your give red trus(sent feedback) to yahoo and lutphin your remove

Reading the comments in your trust list it will not happen by this post.
I think your best chance to get Lauda and Lutpin remove there neg. trust rating is to post quality posts for the coming weeks and ask it by pm. Still not a warranty do.

Its not about posts , Its about the trust rating I had left them . They think that I think I am entitled to join a signature campaign while I just wanted to know the reason behind it.

So reading up a bit on your post history (mainly here[1]) it looks like your ratings will not get removed. Are your other accounts banned permanently? If so you are currently evading a ban, which will lead to a ban. If a single account of yours is banned permanently, you the person are banned from this forum. For life.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg16981704#msg16981704

I rest my case.

Does that mean I will never get my trust rating removed ?  And I will get banned from this forum ? If a person is jailed, Does he not get freedom after a while inside ? What kind of rule is this ?

Ban evasion is the most serious offense on this forum and is punishable by the forum's capital punishment(being banned from forum forever). If you create another alt account that will get banned as well.

you are using this forum and you agree to its terms. you can't deny the ban. cya.

I got no intention to do so. You could try contacting Blazed who is the reason for Lauda and me being in DT2 and convince them it's worth removing us over this.
I would not hold my breath for that and given your way, you probably will just end up on their PM ignore list like you did with Lauda and me.
Another way would be getting two other DT1 users to exclude us, resulting in a similar situation.

You already are banned. As for this account, I am no moderator and can't decide this. I asked Lauda to push my findings and they have submitted sufficient proof (the one I posted, together with your acknowledging of said proof/situation) to users who can decide over it. We will have to wait for those users to take a look at the report and handle it.

If a person is jailed, they don't walk out and start another life acting like nothing happened. That's kinda what you did.
You got banned from the forum, so you just started another account and acted like you were new/like nothing ever happened.
In real life, this is not possible, so please don't start any comparisons to being "jailed".

The official unofficial rules of bitcointalk.org

Correct.  I said you shouldn't wait for them to remove negative ratings before you removed yours.

Now you need to wait.

They are probably not going to remove your negative ratings right now.  You have proved yourself to be untrustworthy, now you need to prove yourself to be trustworthy.  This takes time.

Interact positively with the community for a while (few months) and THEN ask for some consideration for your trust.

Remember:  Trust is easy to lose but hard to gain.  Good luck!

You have got no intention to do so means are you bound by the rules of that DT1 users thing ?
If I am already banned then why am I able to post on this forum ? If a person is jailed, he can drift to another country and if that person behaves well there are lesser chances of him getting abused by the world .
What does DT1 user mean ?
Can you give me the Blazed profile link ?

No Lutpin (and Lauda) is on the default trust network on level 2 below Blazed. This means Blazed gives their ratings power while yours will most likely be ignored by most. Blazed could remove the power, not the rating.


Slow moderation most likely, or maybe your ban isnt permanent? You didnt answer that yet.


Only after(!) they have served their term. If your term is for life, you need to talk to the gods about a chance afterwards.


Id suggest you figure this out on your own, its not that difficult.

Well DT1 must be Default Trust . I do not understand one thing . If Lutpin and Lauda delete their feedbacks, will I be still left with negative ratings ? And if they delete their trust ratings, will I be able to use this forum again without getting permanent ban ? And what is the question you are asking Shorena ?

Yes, you also have negative ratings by actmyname, yahoo62278 and FlossinRod.


These two are unrelated. You can have the best positive rating you can imagine, if you break the rules you still get banned.


I asked how long was the ban you got. Its usually stated with the ban message. A 7 day ban is considered a first warning, a 30 day usually the last chance before you get banned for life.

They are all permanently banned in addition to OP spamming with newbie accounts (which all got nuked). Reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589940.msg16980896#msg16980896). Due to the massive amount of PMs, I had to put them on ignore.

Having trust in this forum is hell like having drug in BRAZIL.
what is Ban evading?? and why are you banned? i guess administrator should unban you , try giving them some money and they will unban you , not sure how stuffs work here.

Ban evading means interacting on the forum using another account while at least one is currently serving a ban. You are only allowed to create a Meta thread about your ban and that is it. However, in the case of OP they have been ban evading for a long time.

Probably signature spam. His recent tantrum was also a different type of spam.

No, they should not and no that is not how this works.

Okay if you think that is a good idea, my rates are:
$1 million for unbanning,
$5 million for removal of the negative rating.


/s

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FYI: It was never like that on this forum.

That is ridiculous , may be if you want free bets , i can provide you that. Out of 7 , 5 sure to win. You have humor and wit, i like it.

I still think that it may be a bit too little. :-\

What can I say, sometimes I'm a funny cat.

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That said, I'll refrain for posting as the vital information was mentioned.

Little!!  :-\
My last offer i give you my next pick of odds @27 that is going to be played tomorrow , it is a parlay of 4-5 bets.
If this cant satisfy you , then i am out of discussion.
It either depicts you are too ambitious or you are playing with me.
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@abhishekgg i am sure you cant get rid of him! he has some heavy balls.

You should be already out of discussion.. you are trying to bribe a staff member..
someone call 911.

I took it as a joke. If they were serious, I'd say that such an action deserves a negative trust rating. Bribery should never be supported.

You've learnt nothing and proceeded to make even further violations of the rules. Definitely a "very special case".

I believe you know nothing and call a donation as bribe. Definitely some million dollars are too small for your greed.

Bribe:
::)

Wait, what? Multiple bans are not enough to give you a hint something is not working out right?


You had several accounts banned, what exactly would be an appropriate warning sign in your opinion?


Again, this is not difficult to figure out. Look at your own profile. Carefully, you will likely find the trust page and the untrusted feedback section.


Can you? Can you undo all the spam your other accounts did? Show me.


Multiple accounts are not a problem, even if they are active at the same time, as long as they follow the rules.


Why? Why should there be an exception for you? What have you done for this board to justify the exception? Right now I have a nagging feeling Im talking to a child or a troll. You either are unable to find very basic information or unwilling. Your moral compas is way off if you dont understand why "gifts" or "donations" towards people in power are forbidden in most countries.

Let me help you feel it better !
Its clinic all clear.
I rest my case !
Now what will you say LAUDA ?


https://imgur.com/a/N5VCw (https://imgur.com/a/N5VCw)

Please, can we start a Lauda gender discussion here? Those are always the most fun to watch?
Is it a male, is it a female, is it an apache? Nobody knows.
Ok, their parents maybe, if they checked early enough.

578808d2180bdad14e1dcf9c703efb8575f9dfbf90e581346eebe4014d7228a1 (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/578808d2180bdad14e1dcf9c703efb8575f9dfbf90e581346eebe4014d7228a1)
 ::)

As said, we got a "special case" here.

That would be most interesting indeed! I'm certain my parents are unsure of my gender. :-[

Shh!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/841/yknjsthumbnail.jpg


That does not unban you. This unbans the IP address used. This is due to the possibility that multiple users may be using the same VPN or Tor node for example.

Well, that can also be changed later on down the road. Am I the only one who finds it strange that the forum only has male and female options? What about 'other' for people that are transitioning or don't identify as male or female?

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OP if your accounts are permabanned then you're evading a ban and this account will get banned.

I suggest you don't create/purchase another one. Capisce!?

I do not purchase accounts. I start from the very begining. People are here to look for fun here and not remove their trust rating they gave which is irrelevant. Better if it could have got banned way before then . IP bans should need money ? And this is donation not bribe right ?  Wonderful !

The only thing that i can say to you it is better to stop arguing what you want to say it is better to do action. prove that you are not deserve to not ban or receive a negative trust remember quickseller i saw his account before that receive negative trust and prove that he can be deal as trustworthy until he gain back his account to 0 negative trust..
If you are just push what you want to say here there is no help it can be more complicated and trigger them to be angry..
Better respect what their decision if you can be change and maybe in the future they can remove your negative trust..

So better to relax and try to gain positive feed back to someone else like vod said.

And all I can say for you is RIP english .

I think you forgot to explain how this guy is a scammer. You posted connections to several accounts that are alleged to be spammer. If he is evading a permanent ban then he will probably get banned, although sometimes some people who are permanently banned are allowed to come back, either under a new name or under their old name(s).

Exactly , they denied me for a campaign, I asked reason and they now say I think that I am entitled to join sig campaign. Hey come on, do I not deserve to know the reason ? They have interlinked a one time signature spam and trust abuse(deleted) with the scamming part. I ask a one single question :
If I cut your earning source for an invalid reason, how will you react ? If I am a trust abuser who are you then ?

Red trust doesn't always make someone a scammer, it shows that the person leaving the feedback doesn't trust the person recieving it. Lutpin has made his reasoning clear for the red mark in his feedback, as did Lauda.
Would you trust someone that spams and ban evades, along with little trustworthy things to their name?

In addition, would you not consider somebody delivering a sub-par product for what you pay to be scamming? In that case, signature spamming and getting paid is scamming the owner.

You're not in any place to insult anyone else's literacy.

Really ? Then why do you think I was given the name of trust abuser when I did same ? This is not something personal here .

You're not in any place to insult anyone else's literacy.
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Then why is he insulting and advising about what he has got no clue ?

Because that negative feedback had no justifiable reason behind it and therefore was abusing the system. Retaliatory feedback is usually a big no-no.


Irrelevant, and you were the one who had ignored everything Bitcoinsummoner had said to only reply with "RIP english". Certainly, someone has no clue, and it's not them. And that goes along with the fact that you use poor grammar and spelling so you're in no position to begin insulting other people's English skills.

Well If mine is not then they also do not have any relevance. Someone has got no clue and it definitely includes you. If you are that good at english then answer this query :

Show me a sentence where you can use two "in(s)" consecutively. Lets see who is poor.

When you have sex with your girlfriend, you put your one IN in.   ;)

That's a LOL right there.  ;D

Edit:  I thought Canada was on the metric system.

The entire world is on the metric system - sans US of A.

The question was not meant to be answered by a boob licker , i.e Vod  ;D
Do you have any clean answer which is not vulgar and not related to sex ? Lol

Uh, yes, negative trust is meant for anyone who has scammed someone, who has attempted to scam someone, or who is believed to be a scammer:

The forum administration sometimes will allow someone to resume posting after being permanently banned after some amount of time has elapsed (depending on the amount of "trouble" the person previously caused), sometimes a new account is created, is allowed to continue posting, but the old account is not unbanned, and sometimes the old account(s) is unbanned.

None of the reasoning provided by either Lutpin nor Lauda give any insight to why the OP is a scammer, nor have they said anything along the lines of "trust me, this person is a scammer, but I cannot disclose how I know this" (this would only be used when someone is an alt of a scammer).

Not in the OP's case, no (nor in the majority of other similar cases). It is my understanding that the OP was previously paid for a set number of posts made after an enrollment post (and/or enrollment time), made in a specific subset of sections, while wearing a specific signature until a specific time. Furthermore, it is my understanding that the OP was not paid until after he delivered his services, allowing the owner of the company he was advertising for to withhold payment if the quality of service was less then expected, which dilutes this kind of claim. 

It is not so , what cause me to act this way is the behaviour of yahoo (became bossy and started abusing) while I accept that I messaged him 8x a week only once as I was feeling helpless and I was unable to open the sheet properly from my phone. The spreadsheet used to have payment info and I was unable to find sheet no. 2  in that spreadsheet, I already said him sorry but he was very rude. So are these guys Lutpin and Lauda. They relate ban evasion with scamming . I waited and enough is enough. Now I have left them the feedbacks they deserve. He removed me from Byteball signature campaign due to the talk between us and no other reason. I do not know why do they take job if can not handle people. He could simply ask not to message me.

They should remember that they reside on the same earth where we do. You will be respected if you love people and not hate them . Do not categorize every single guy in the same category .

So you were not paid at all? Regardless of if you were paid after the fact, or if you did not receive payment, neither is the basis of a negative rating.

I was paid by yahoo. He is good at making payments. But he removed me from signature campaign in the middle while he should not have done this as the trust ratings were good and not negative earlier .

That's not true and you know it. If that were the case then why did you post each of these feedbacks, none of which stating that the user was a scammer or was believed to be:
https://i.imgur.com/ZPtpkwb.png

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https://i.imgur.com/g2qHaDj.png

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https://i.imgur.com/0oPWVG9.png

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https://i.imgur.com/bizQXGu.png

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https://i.imgur.com/T0TptHC.png

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And my personal favorite:
https://i.imgur.com/xm4hvVy.png
You were right for tagging that guy. What sort of a lowlife would deceive another party in a deal by acting as both a part of the deal and the escrow?

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You tagged these people using the trust system because you do not trust them, as you explicitly said in several of your ratings. This is no different to what Lauda or Lutpin is doing in my opinion. Please stop holding people do a double standard simply just because you dislike them, it's obvious and is extremely childish.

If its "childish" then I must not have gotten feedbacks after I left them . This is indeed true and this is the case . If you follow the forum , them why are you escaping this one ? Unless you accept, no one can make you understand this .