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RIP

Why RIP? Its not dead yet it already decreases its price and theres nothing to be shocked about since it do always happen on altcoins price. Some people or traders will surely bought ETH on to the lowest price as possible and im one of them because i do have high hopes that ETH will rise up again.I dont know when but theres a possibility. Theres no need to put funeral in here  8)

just be sure, as long as we can still make a profit from trading eth, then we should not worried with what happen with ethereum. i am sure if the dev is really take serious about the ethereum, then they will hard work to make the ethereum rise again like before. so make it simple like that and don't be to worried.

stages of Ethereum:
1. not knowing it, super low prices and accumulation by the whales.
2. spam, hype, leading to pump and then some more pump. lead to high price.
3. claiming to replace bitcoin, hype some more, whales pumping lead to super high price.
4. whales cash out, price falls. dumping phase.
5. some more P&D to make more money
6. price free falling every day and denial phase thinking it will come back.
7. (future) dead cat bounces and more dumps, then bag holders selling
8. final stage a new coin named BlahBlah starts step 1

You mean Etherium Classic, right?  :)

Seriously though, Eth isn't dead. Maybe it was overvalued. Eth will have to wait for at least one quality innovative decentralised app before we know how much the platform is worth. And we aint seen it yet!  :(

So true!

Ethereum can't die just like that  the number of projects on Ethereum with over $5 million marketcap is 6 in number Augur, ICONOMI, Golem, SNGLs, DigixDAO, Xaurum. There is still value on the platform.

well  i dont think that the price  of etherum has gone down .its ur  faulty thinking .as the price of bitcoins gone down and recovered ,its all the same ,so have hope  and do all the cryptocurency and no rest in peace .

ETH cant die,its good coin,good project but need time,but its still best i think and most coins will go later on eth platform! ;) but i hope price drop to 5$ so i can buy again for good price!

I can see this happening to ETC but not ETH. There are too many holding it and big business has their hands in it such as coinbase. They are too far invested into it that it can not fail. They won't let it. >:(

LOL too big to fail

They are the biggest exchange out there. So what do you think will happen to the price bitcoin if they just die and fall over? Remember Bitfinex?

RIP Ethereum Classic not the usual Ethereum that we are using for trading. AFAIK, ETH is next to the bitcoin in its position but with its value and market cap it is very far from it and very impossible to replace bitcoin so it is also impossible to be dead earlier as the end of the year. OP is mistakenly accusing that ETH is dead  ::)

what happened?

It can, It wasn't good project, some of their features was being a plagued in the cryptocurrency (ERC20). Based on his fail chain vitalik may need for built his chain again. Too many forks were happening in the ETH chain, and that was making it a weakness.

Eth is in the low point, the price keeps on falling and the stability is really bad, luckily there was still some project supporting ethereum, but for now there are no company willing to invest in ethereum anymore, it is all starting because of the forking, i think slowly ethereum is sinking and seems like the coin developer doesn't really care anymore about this coin

I swear, more than half the members on this forum ought to be meteorologists.  The prognostications I see here strike me as a bit funny.

Abe Vigoda is dead, finally, but ethereum is not.  And I haven't a clue why, because it seems to be turning out to be a shitcoin supreme.  Then again, I didn't expect D. Trump to be elected president either.  So you cannot underestimate the stupidity of the masses.

Losing a couple dollars is not the end of the world.
The project still has some great ideas and may gain some upwards movement when projects like Augur are finished.

But the main issue is that the coin is still just used for trading and investment.
You can't actually DO anything with ETH yet. Which is why I was surprised that companies like Coinbase started selling it.
At least with Bitcoin and to a MUCH lesser extent Monero you can spend coins on goods.

You can though. Ethereum can be used at several online casinos to place bets with such as NitogenSports. So you can not say it is totally useless and you can not do anything with it.
Isn't that how bitcoin started in people's minds in the beginning.
I was saying "What the heck am I going to buy with this. Nobody is taking this yet." Atleast where I was living at that time back in 2010.

Well, maybe eth can not say die. it happened the same as in bitcoin or on other altcoin. I think the price decline eth is a common problem in cryptocurrency, and perhaps, because of this many people are trading. Well, I expect that prices fall eth over again, so that I could buy it in large quantities

Nice to see Ethereum giving Alt coins an air of respectability at the expence of its own reputation self-imploding.

Wonder what would happen if Ethereum was to announce it was not gonna go pos coin and stay
pow coin?

Would that stop the slide?

Eth for the longest time has been overvalued. No dapps, blockchain that hardforks every month and gross mismanagement pretty much sum it up. Why would someone pay $10 for something so broken? I think eth is going back to its launch price of $0.40 or so. If the devs get their shit together it may come back to $10 or so in the future but honestly i think it is a dead project at this point. If you want smart contracts you are better off looking into rootstock and counterparty.

Also something i have realised about eth shills, whenever positive news comes out they distance themselves from bitcoin and claim they are the next best thing. However when something goes wrong they are quick to point out bitcoins flaws like they are even on the same level as bitcoin. Satoshi was/is a genius, vitalik is a clueless programmer who has no long term vision heck he does not even understand what a blockchain stands for. Perhaps the guy who spent 10k btc on pizza should request bitcoin be hard forked so he gets his coins back lol.

Stay away from eth unless you want to burn your money. You have been warned.

Its not really dead yet. Its just drops because many people panicked and they sell their eth. Lets see in the following week if theres improvements. Actualy this is the good time to buy some of it. But im not recommending to put all your money to this. Crashing is just normal to happen at cryptocurrencies. Besides, if you look and summarize when the eth just started. Its not even $1 a piece when eth started and look at the price now.

Thats what im trying to say since on the first page that ETH wont easily die  and  price dips are just normal on crypto world and it normally rise and lowers its price due to some reasons like traders do tend to sell off their Eth thats why it lowers its price and the main reason is that bitcoin value do rise its just my speculation though. Lower price means an opportunity to buy.

Stay away from eth unless you want to burn your money. You have been warned.

Pathetic thread and even more pathetic replies from the haters. Haters always hate and that's why BTC went through the same announcements of death.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win. – Mohandas Gandhi

eth is dead, look the fundamentals and stop denying.
How could anyone sell a "smart contract" that is not immutable? the whole concept died in the first fork.

plus, every week we have one more fork.

Agreed.. a massive death blow to ETH when that first fork happened.

What concerns me ever since it's launch in 2014 was it's sneaky scammy crooked launch.
THAT will stain it for life no matter how respectable they try and make it seem later.

There seems to be no way to get it through their head that you can not simply engineer a scam coin to the advantage of the dev's and insiders at launch then smooth it over later.

I think the concept of an ICO in the context here is crooked to begin with.. but !
Ethereum took things to another level.

There was a variety of signs from launch day something was going on.
And the massive hype campaign and pump sealed the deal.
It was a prophecy that panned out later..

V. Butters told you all he cashed out something like a million dollars worth of ETH.
And he had plenty more where that came from.
How did he get them ? Was he a multi-millionaire BEFORE the coin was launched ?
I think not..
He had friends with money such as Coindesk who suspiciously were on-board spamming about it as it was about to launch.
The same people who were pouring millions into the ICO on the first minute of Launch of ETH.
On my Scam topic i made in 2014 on ETH users reported a person or group was buying a non stop amount of ETH at launch in tons and tons of 100 BTC buy orders.
This should be setting off large alarm bells.. and it did for 2 years as people avoided ETH.
But once the scene changed to a greed mode where launching ICO's was *NOW* acceptable..
it became ok.. no matter how crooked the launch was.. as long as it was getting super pumped in the start of 2016 people threw morality out the window and turned a blind eye to the scam.

Ethereum is a corrupt rigged ICO scam scheme coin from day one.
Anyone with integrity would have avoided it.
The rest bought in ..in the hopes of taking profits from the scheme.
Exactly like the hoards of fraudsters who wander around trying to sucker in MLM victims.

I can tell you with certainty that ETH price will rise to above even $12, why? simple really people seeing slightly increase of price and think it is better to buy in before they regret it and thus buy after buy resulting in price to recover and the same recovery will cause even more buys to a point that we might even see the value ranging around $20 in 2017.

It really is like gambling isn't it? Predict up or down, high or low, you have half the chances to get it right and no consequence for guessing wrong unless you pit your money where you predict.

But with you on this... Eth facing same pitfalls as btc and its resilience is remarkable. To me this makes me more confident. Would bitcoin have survived similar issues in its infancy?

Yeah, I must agree with you. It's like gambling, nothing more than predictions and speculation, some will make profit, many will lose money, same that gambling. I still prefer gambling, there I have things under control, with altcoins the things are more unstable for me.
Trust bitcoin, this one has proved will survive and keep the price high, in altcoins don't go with all your faith, it can be a mistake.

I can never agree with this statement but hey if it works for you then good.
when I am gambling, there is no way I can predict anything or prevent my loss. for example if I  want to make 30% profit and I make a 1BTC bet I can lose all 1BTC in just one click.
but when I am trading and want to make 30% profit even if the altcoin I invest in gets dumped I can sell at a loss and based on my speed I can minimize that loss and keep something like 0.99BTC still.

now you tell me which one is better?

so, you can tell us the future with certainty? what a nice person you're! coming from the future to make us rich.

you gave us the definition of FOMO. ok. and who said it's gonna happen? to me, it will be the other way around.
the whole dump till now were the "weak hands"(actually, the smart share of investors) dumping. now it's the point where it should go up, but no one is buying eth.. so the price will keep falling till the bagholders panic sell and it goes to 1 satoshi.

if you think the dump already happened... to me, Panic has not even started.

No no, the ethereum is still alive, it is just fluctuation of price and yea.. yea... A little problem on ETH's network  ;D
But i am sure the developers ethereum will doing something for making ETH become nice,
Usually they always take other innovation for it, the most commons do the hard fork.
Because of ETH price going down doesn't mean it is die.

Read that https://medium.com/consensys-media/omg-ethereum-is-so-hard-forked-e8099749c27c#.kzzjgjxr1

I think this would help the price stop the bleeding for some thing and regain some trust because some people believe that going POS is a way the Ethereum foundation want to centralise their project

If ETH dies,what will happen to eteherium based projects like ICONOMI etc?will they also die a natural death or will they eventually help ETH survive or revive?

Give us a list of the top 5 "DAPPS" you use daily.

Are you kidding? Of course i don't use their DAPPS daily, i've said yea.. yea... A little problem on ETH's network it is mean bad for personal usage. :D :D :D
I just made increase my bitcoins with trading ETH to bitcoins, that's it.
And my analysis for making prediction ETH was worked.

it really doesn't matter what people think about POS and whether they like it more or not, what is going to happen is probably a big hype and then followed up by a big pump.

and it has already happened for so much less for example in other altcoins just by releasing a new wallet version price was pumped!

This thread is priceless. I bought into that in the ico and sold all above $11. Im waiting for the bottom and going to reinvest my original investment plus 4x thanks to that massive pump that I got to dump out on!

It is undoubted that ethereum will continue as an important altcoin for long, but unfortunately for early adopters it never will displace the bitcoin as the most important altcoin, as they are expecting.

Well, every new altcoin is always promising the same thing, but I don't think it will occur ever, unless a catastrophic event may dump the bitcoin price to $1.

I was never expecting that, I was just expecting to make money.

RIP ETH you was very good to me and others, I buy cars, holidays and house payments. I couldn't have done it without you!

That's the spirit.

That is what we do brother, we make them dollars from these tokens/coins and then we're gone like the wind.

I don't think it is,it's far from dead I check it on Yobit and the volume is 188 bitcoin and it is on Yobit alone,I don't know in the other exchanges,yes the price is dropping but it can still bounce back anytime,majority of the people still trust this coin.

Well ethererum is far from dead. The price may be falling in comparison to bitcoin but with dollar it is quite strong and rising. Why I say it is far from dead is because there are amany good projects going on with eth as base and as long as they don't die eth does not die.

ETH is just correcting from astronomic rise..... It will be back, sooner or later. Many many exceptional project are built upon it.

You guys are not very convincing.

The "correction" retort ?  :D

Maybe you but I end up being a bagholder on most coins.

Yeah these threads are so boring and on a par with the Bitcoin is dead when it was $30.

Show me some Bitcoin is dead topics..

As usual you are a bullshitting fraud.. with weak scam coin defense retorts.

Further more these topics are not here for you personal entertainment.
And your claim <insert some other coin name> lights babies on fire or cures cancer
..has no bearing on Ethereum being a dead scammy heap of fucking garbage.

And no it makes no difference if some random noob account pops up saying they made a million dollars on some fucking shitcoin either.

Did you fucking idiots have anything smart to say ?

Etherium will be back, I can ensure about that. It is obviously that etherium contains more opportunity than its origin - Bitcoin. I do not know why but the etherium manager is very suck, I think they do not know how to improve Eth and develop it. So many things happen to Etherium in this year
I hope it will be stronger and stronger than now

Let me tell you i don't believe at all in the Eth or ETC projects.
First, i still don't know who is managing these projects, nor why they decided to split, and i don't care about knowing.
Second, it is far from been user friendly, so much tutorials for so much useless things.
Third, why the hell they use Solidity language ? can't they just use javascript as it is so close to ?
Fourth, these currencies are highly over estimated, for what ? what do they bring new ? a load of useless code ?
Fifth, Again not user friendly, you must be a certified dev, or having a lot of time to kill in order to understand how it works, and even when you know how, you have nothing to do with it, sit is a waste of time.

What do they mean with smart contract, and please don't give a 99 lines long explanation, by the way i don't care about a "Greeter", any noobish dev can do it with any language.

they didn't split up just so you know. You gotta learn more about the project before you criticize them. They're worth a lot than the rest that tries to go up even today.

you gotta learn about them else no one will also be interested to yours which is this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542256.0

Unless each one of you defending ETH starts adding a top 5 list of your favorite DAPPS (You USE regularly) to your comments here.. then you should shut your little shill-holes  :D

Potential ?
Sure there is glorious potential... ya never know, a shiny gold nugget might fall out of my ass.  :o

Investards, don't sprinkle cheese on me and call me a pizza !

There's a whole website dedicated to Bitcoin is dead articles. But you knew that already Spoetniktard.

I been here since mid 2013 and i do not recall seeing even 1 single topic claiming BTC is dead.
Yet you and others spout that off as a comparison to some shitcoin as a defense all the time.
It's weak.. defense retort fail fraudsters.

And even if true there is no tangible correlation between the first main coin and some scammy shitcoin ICO that came out years later.. that is not even a fucking currency in the first place.

That defense game is just silly desperate bullshit by moronic frauds.
You all suck at this.. you just play the same handful of cards over & over.  :D
..come up with some new material shills.

Don't make me send my army of sock puppet accounts after YOURS Fraudcache ;)

If Ethereum collapse and die so many projects will go down with it, Golem, SNGLs, ICONOMI, DigixDAO, Xaurum etc. I don't think Ethereum will go under, it is just a learning curve for the team and I expect them to bounce back, apart from Ethereum I can't name any Altcoin that has given Bitcoin a run for it money which is good  for the Cryptocurrencies market in general if we look at the big picture.

I don't know how with others but some coins want use Eth just to send/recive dividends at cheap price.
If needed many projects will be ported to another systems like waves/lisk/nem in future.
Etherum for those which will use advanced scripting can be hard to replace but those only "shares" tokens
are really easy to port by making snapshot of current state especially when eg. ICONOMI is centralized system and
making port to other coin is REALLY easy ^^ comparing to creating own system.

To be honest on my local forums like wykop.pl there 80% of population thinks that BTC is dead and is just bubble.
BTW they stated it at BTC @1$  so. Making thereads "dead again" is common in internet.
I look at ETH mayby more like on LTC dump or ripple.
Massive rise and forget.

Even here you will find thread that reads "bitcoin is dead".I think those who start crying are either want to create panic and hence price fall or they are just too weak impatient and start fearing on a minor downs

That is true.Most of the promising projects runs with the help of Ethereum and if the project of Ethereum collapse then all the platforms which follow Ethereum will be doomed for sure and the price of Ethereum will come back to normal valuation after some time without a hurdle.

Gud to read that everyone else has seen the countless articles on Bitcoin is dead. Everyone apart from the Spoetniktard that is. Now let's wonder why he doesn't was to see them. Hmm Mmm.

Ya got me.. Ethereum is vindicated now  ::)

First time I will see Spoetnik admit his mistake

I assisted to the born of ethereum, i talked to genoil about how the mining will happen once they go POS, after this i saw that they splited, and yes they "split", so basically now it is a POW/POS blockchain, i don't want to go too deeply in details as i talked to the ETH devs too, they are too proud about solidity, but it is just bull-shit in my eyes, they complicated a wonderfull language for nothing, they complicated the whole project.
Ethereum = Complicate
Try to do a simple thing with eth, it is impossible, you have to be a certified dev for this with all the technical details around it.
I also used to mine eth on dwarfPool, i don't care about it now because it is unstable, it is not a matter of price, but all about "solidity" not the language, but the project :)

Gud to know that I was the first one to break him.

Ethereum is not going to die - not this year or the year after that. Y'all accept it and move on with your individual lives.

$7.60 and dropping.. still  :D

It is in fact already dead.. you just refuse to admit it.

And as always i hear absolutely nothing about the DAPPS you all love and use so much.
Get it ?
When the hype manipulation pump squad left so did the profiteers.
You last bag holding desperate dregs are screwed.
Because it's not about "smart contracts" it's about your ROI's ..on a hollow gimmicky scam ICO platform thingy.

..that is not even used as intended.

Hence it is fucking dead.

If i was a bag holder right now i would be sweatin' bullets  :D

It must be terrible to be such a pessimist in life. You need to get out more and feel the sun on your skin and the wind in your hair. Not everything is black and white, and as such markets move up and down. Constantly. Even the mighty BTC fell from $1200 to $200 yet you want to try to ingrain your pessimistic outlook on life on ETH because it fell $5! That only makes it a gud buying opportunity.  ETH is a new great tech and one that's still being developed. It's extremely shortsighted of yourself to expect Rome built in a day. Step away from the computer and get out more. You'll see that you life doesn't have to be so blighted.

Gud luck on your recovery.

What did you say about DAPPS ?

Oh sorry you were talking about the market price.. which you were wrong about by the way.
If ETH reached up over $20 a coin and it's dropped to $7 that would be more than $5  :o
Your pretty gud with math'z huh ?  :D

And who says i have hair ? LOL
And i am plenty optimistic in life.. just not with Altcoins.
Wonder why ?
Look at the track record of them all..

Then i suggest you check out this.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias

I would advise being realistic and honest about the situation and not having a tainted view because as you put it "you are all in" bag holding.

Oh and i do believe you said ETH will be hitting $100 a coin right after the DAO attack.. so... uhhh  :D

Has Butters paid his monthly Microsoft Azure bill ? After all Microsoft is "Using" Ethereum.
Remember that lie to lure in victims ?
It was just like the IBM one way back or the more recent "Big Banks" one you were spouting off here about.

And seriously you really need to stop with the comparisons to Bitcoin.
That is highly offensive.
Even if they were both currencies.. which they are not.
One is a crooked scammer ICO gimmick app's trend platform scheme coin.
Satoshi never launched an ICO then admitted to dumping a million dollars worth on supporters.
But Butters sure as hell did !

And Rome ? ETH ain't no Rome either  :D

What is it you are waiting for adoption ?
What was the first thing i said and the thing before that ?
Which DAPPS do you use again ?  :D

I dont know why people bother too much on this issue since all of altcoin do suffer this kind of stuff on which they dump its price for a particular reason and regarding to ETH i dont think it would die on this year and its really impossible and we already witness the previous hacks and events that really suffer or affect eths price but still its standing.

Ethereum nearly ready to release the Metropolis update then in early 2017 to introduce zero protocol to Ether.This could be a good time to accumulate

It's definitely a buyers marketrught now for ETH. I've bagged some more.