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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: mastercoins on December 02, 2016, 02:55:41 PM



Title: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: mastercoins on December 02, 2016, 02:55:41 PM
Since this morning payments are pending and Monica support team member just telling full lies.

It looks like site is going close soon or later before deposit money be careful.

My payments still paying for more than 12 hours - first they said some maintenance work and later I will get it soon and now no answer from them.

Anyone else facing same issue?


Edit - finally they confirmed my payment after 14 hours but its been 10+ hours but still 0 confirmations from blockchain.

Don't expect a instant payments from fortunejack site anymore.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: MinerHQ on December 02, 2016, 03:07:32 PM
It is one of the worst gambling sites I have come across. Don't deposit any money into that site. It is has got a worst technical support team, and they will take years to answer your questions. Try to open a scam accusation thread with proper proofs. If it is taking more than half day to send payment, then it is no more instant withdrawal site.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: panjul07 on December 03, 2016, 12:04:16 AM
I'm not a fan of this site or a regular player here, but I have never experienced a bad issue so far. Once I had an issue with my withdrawal but they answered my question fast and fixed my issue just after they replied my ticket.
You should be more patient if they have said that there is a maintenance. If there is no more update (no respons) on your issue after more than 24hours then you can start your scam accusation with valid proofs. Otherwise, no one will trust what you said.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: maku on December 03, 2016, 12:15:10 AM
It is not FortuneJack's fault that withdrawals are being processed slowly. It is the fault of stressed bitcoin network.
I experienced that too and I waited more than 20 hours for my withdrawal transaction from FortuneJack to be confirmed in the blockchain.

Again, withdrawals are usually instant but confirmation times (not really depended on FortuneJack) are not.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: xeqoRameshAxueamExaqana on December 03, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
fortune jack still good gambling site
until now still open service , is not close
and signature campaign still run and always paid to participant


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: klf on December 03, 2016, 12:26:43 AM
It is not FortuneJack's fault that withdrawals are being processed slowly. It is the fault of stressed bitcoin network.
I experienced that too and I waited more than 20 hours for my withdrawal transaction from FortuneJack to be confirmed in the blockchain.

Again, withdrawals are usually instant but confirmation times (not really depended on FortuneJack) are not.


Something is not correct here, because if already many people are facing this issue of late transaction confirmations (including you), then they should increase the transaction fee to make things faster because we all know that if you pay more fee then transactions can happen faster. Why do I need to wait for 20 hours to receive my money? Whether it is their problem or blockchain, they need to find ways to improve it.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Invulner on December 03, 2016, 12:40:10 AM
Since this morning payments are pending and Monica support team member just telling full lies.

It looks like site is going close soon or later before deposit money be careful.

My payments still paying for more than 12 hours - first they said some maintenance work and later I will get it soon and now no answer from them.

Anyone else facing same issue?


Edit - finally they confirmed my payment after 14 hours but its been 10+ hours but still 0 confirmations from blockchain.

Don't expect a instant payments from fortunejack site anymore.

Not really... Fortunejacks have always been pretty trustworthy in the past and I don't see why they would want to close down in the short future, especially when they are currently conducting a giveaway for amounts wagered.

As for the unconfirmed transactions, as everyone else said, yes, it's the blockchain's fault, so not really FJ's fault.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: maku on December 03, 2016, 12:44:05 AM
It is not FortuneJack's fault that withdrawals are being processed slowly. It is the fault of stressed bitcoin network.
I experienced that too and I waited more than 20 hours for my withdrawal transaction from FortuneJack to be confirmed in the blockchain.

Again, withdrawals are usually instant but confirmation times (not really depended on FortuneJack) are not.


Something is not correct here, because if already many people are facing this issue of late transaction confirmations (including you), then they should increase the transaction fee to make things faster because we all know that if you pay more fee then transactions can happen faster. Why do I need to wait for 20 hours to receive my money? Whether it is their problem or blockchain, they need to find ways to improve it.
Again it was purely blockchain problem, at some point yesterday we had almost 70k unconfirmed transactions.
Now that number dropped to less than 30k - https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions (https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions)
It is hard to react if that problem is with bitcoin network - I am not sure if FortuneJack has automated fee system or it is set manually.
Rising transaction fee just because network is slowing down/is stuck is not the optimal solution IMO, as we might become hostage of miners pretty soon.



Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: panjul07 on December 03, 2016, 12:55:06 AM
It is not FortuneJack's fault that withdrawals are being processed slowly. It is the fault of stressed bitcoin network.
I experienced that too and I waited more than 20 hours for my withdrawal transaction from FortuneJack to be confirmed in the blockchain.

Again, withdrawals are usually instant but confirmation times (not really depended on FortuneJack) are not.


Something is not correct here, because if already many people are facing this issue of late transaction confirmations (including you), then they should increase the transaction fee to make things faster because we all know that if you pay more fee then transactions can happen faster. Why do I need to wait for 20 hours to receive my money? Whether it is their problem or blockchain, they need to find ways to improve it.
Again it was purely blockchain problem, at some point yesterday we had almost 70k unconfirmed transactions.
Now that number dropped to less than 30k - https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions (https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions)
It is hard to react if that problem is with bitcoin network - I am not sure if FortuneJack has automated fee system or it is set manually.
Rising transaction fee just because network is slowing down/is stuck is not the optimal solution IMO, as we might become hostage of miners pretty soon.



I think they have an automatic system to calculate the fees based on the transaction's size. In this case we cant blame FJ or any sites that has instant withdrawal but players are unable to choose their own fees.
I also has a transaction that is still stuck on blockchain for over 24hours now, I used 20k satoshi fee as usual which is usually will be confirmed less than 10minutes if there is no issue on blockchain but too bad I did not know that there is a stressed network. What I can do it just wait till the stress test is done and wait for my transaction being confirmed.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 03, 2016, 01:11:56 AM
It's true. The bitcoin network has been suffering from an unusually high daily transaction rate lately. Look at this https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-count

It is lower now but it is still higher than the average no. of unconfirmed transactions. We will be seeing more of this unless the miners get consensus on segregated witness. As fellow bitcoin users we must be aware of the issues.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: kanazawa on December 03, 2016, 02:17:11 AM
So the whole information about "closing" is not true? I mean, I know the thread was a question but looks like a doubt with a background of truth you know... I had some delays in fortunejack website long time ago... If it's happening now and andmins are fix it or (at least) showing some explanation to players I think it's fine, almost every game has it's busy (or slow) period because the blockchain also has and so, we can't fix that because it's "our" nature moving, you know what I mean.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Shinpako09 on December 03, 2016, 03:12:17 AM
Dont have account in their site yet but i think the title could be wrong. They wont close anytime I guess. They are one of the best high paying sigcamp running atm and can afford to pay such good amount in their participants. They have told that the issue was in bitcoin network. Hope this issue will resolved soon.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Zadicar on December 03, 2016, 03:16:45 AM
Dont have account in their site yet but i think the title could be wrong. They wont close anytime I guess. They are one of the best high paying sigcamp running atm and can afford to pay such good amount in their participants. They have told that the issue was in bitcoin network. Hope this issue will resolved soon.
Agree with this,i dont think this news is true and OP should be trolling and same as you suspected maybe the cause is the delay on bitcoin network thats why we should not jump directly to conclusions.FJ site is a reputable gambling site and i dont hear any news of not paying their players and regarding on sig camps yes they are one of the most long running and good paying as of now.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: numanoid on December 03, 2016, 03:32:07 AM
Since this morning payments are pending and Monica support team member just telling full lies.

It looks like site is going close soon or later before deposit money be careful.

You're too early take a conclusion, how can their site will going close while they are also held a giveaway? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1701601.0 If you still didn't get your money (i assume yes, because there's blockhain issue, too much unconfirmed transaction), would be better you're participate on their giveaway too (IMO)


~snip~
FJ site is a reputable gambling site and i dont hear any news of not paying their players and regarding on sig camps yes they are one of the most long running and good paying as of now.
Never hear? See fortunejack's trust https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Casabrandy on December 03, 2016, 04:17:25 AM
Dont have account in their site yet but i think the title could be wrong. They wont close anytime I guess. They are one of the best high paying sigcamp running atm and can afford to pay such good amount in their participants. They have told that the issue was in bitcoin network. Hope this issue will resolved soon.
Agree with this,i dont think this news is true and OP should be trolling and same as you suspected maybe the cause is the delay on bitcoin network thats why we should not jump directly to conclusions.FJ site is a reputable gambling site and i dont hear any news of not paying their players and regarding on sig camps yes they are one of the most long running and good paying as of now.

to become more accurate. They are the most high paying rate of all signature campaign running atm. Betcoin signature campaign reduce their rate because of price inflation of btc. Fortunejack remain the same rate and this good. This news is just a hoax, Don't soaked too much with this. FJ is far from closing, I'm FJ player since last year and still they keep running smoothly until now


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Patatas on December 03, 2016, 06:55:49 AM
Since this morning payments are pending and Monica support team member just telling full lies.

It looks like site is going close soon or later before deposit money be careful.

My payments still paying for more than 12 hours - first they said some maintenance work and later I will get it soon and now no answer from them.

Anyone else facing same issue?
I wonder how people jump to dumb conclusions.Pending deposits == Website shutdown ? No Logic Found.There is no Monica,it's some random Indian dude behind the chat box paid to laugh at your queries.

Edit - finally they confirmed my payment after 14 hours but its been 10+ hours but still 0 confirmations from blockchain.

Don't expect a instant payments from fortunejack site anymore.
Too bad,only we would see their close-down benefiting the community is the amount of sig spam being cut down from the Gambling section. :P


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: 88highroller on December 03, 2016, 09:38:02 AM
No, they can be open, but your delay is a pain  :-[


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: piebeyb on December 03, 2016, 10:15:48 AM
I want to laugh at these threads, you can see that in a couple of hours ago transaction Unconfirmed very much, be sure to avoid the transaction at the time the transaction is being crowded, just say no mistakes made from the fortunejack but the problem only on transactions bitcoin you are waiting confirmed, be sure to wait a maximum of 48 hours for it


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: dustboy on December 03, 2016, 10:29:31 AM
Since this morning payments are pending and Monica support team member just telling full lies.

It looks like site is going close soon or later before deposit money be careful.

My payments still paying for more than 12 hours - first they said some maintenance work and later I will get it soon and now no answer from them.

Anyone else facing same issue?
I wonder how people jump to dumb conclusions.Pending deposits == Website shutdown ? No Logic Found.There is no Monica,it's some random Indian dude behind the chat box paid to laugh at your queries.

His main problem was not about pending deposit, but about unconfirmed transaction of his withdrawal due to stressed network. Of course it is also not a logic way of thinking if he think unconfirmed transaction = site going to close. Sites has nothing to do about unconfirmed transaction imho.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: susila_bai on December 03, 2016, 10:39:06 AM
Since this morning payments are pending and Monica support team member just telling full lies.

It looks like site is going close soon or later before deposit money be careful.

My payments still paying for more than 12 hours - first they said some maintenance work and later I will get it soon and now no answer from them.

Anyone else facing same issue?


Edit - finally they confirmed my payment after 14 hours but its been 10+ hours but still 0 confirmations from blockchain.

Don't expect a instant payments from fortunejack site anymore.

I am using fortunejack site for more then 12 months and till now i have never faced any problem in depositing and withdrawing, current transaction delay problem is with Block size due to it cannot handle the large number of transaction so not only fortunejack even if you are sending any bitcoins to anyone they will receive after 10 hrs of time. Its the Bitcoin network problem


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: MANCRYPTOS on December 03, 2016, 11:02:27 AM
I do not think that the FortuneJack's site be closed, because I am using for a long time, and never had a problem. withdrawal problems is only late confirmation


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: xuan87 on December 03, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
fortune jack is one of the biggest casino site, they can't close down so easily, but i do agree with something, the customer support in fortune jack is one of the worst, for the payment i don't think there is any problem, the slow payment is usual in casino because sometimes they need to verify your account before they release the payment


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: arwin100 on December 03, 2016, 11:32:51 AM
Same as others though i don't believe fortunejack will close down their business since they still got many numbersnof players that can make them earn some mote revenue and they have an active sig campaign and it is not ended yet, and that is our indicator that their business closed down is not gonna happen at this moment, and although theirs a little problem occuring at them but surely it was just an normal error and will resolve if the fj management will br reach out to take some action.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: energycr on December 03, 2016, 12:47:52 PM
Are you sure about that? :(
They have been around for a long time I think even when I first started gambling it was around here.
It is not very usual for a company to have such behavior show up all the sudden. So my suggestion would be to give them some time to sort things out first then if not pursue your allegations.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: leepfrog on December 03, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
I played recently and won 4.3btc which was pain out near on instantly. Luck of the draw?I doubt they are going anywhere.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: BTCevo on December 03, 2016, 03:24:34 PM
fortune jack is one of the biggest casino site, they can't close down so easily, but i do agree with something, the customer support in fortune jack is one of the worst, for the payment i don't think there is any problem, the slow payment is usual in casino because sometimes they need to verify your account before they release the payment

May be if there is having such a bigger payout like 10btc or more may be they need to verifiy it and I believe that takes time but for such low payout like 0.1 why it really takes time too? Does not make sense if they keep on doing that. Blockchain nowadays is really takes time but it does not really need takes more than 12 hours though


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: lite on December 03, 2016, 06:09:18 PM

Edit - finally they confirmed my payment after 14 hours but its been 10+ hours but still 0 confirmations from blockchain.

Don't expect a instant payments from fortunejack site anymore.
I had withdrawn coins from fortunejack yesterday and it was instant. it always has been, but recently the confirmation time is too long. btw my transaction was confirmed today!


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Vikingr on December 03, 2016, 07:04:44 PM
I have spend some time on this site and are going well from that time only once I saw a delay in my deposit to that site but was solved sooner by the team of that and after that all other were fine.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: kolloh on December 03, 2016, 08:17:03 PM

Edit - finally they confirmed my payment after 14 hours but its been 10+ hours but still 0 confirmations from blockchain.

Don't expect a instant payments from fortunejack site anymore.
I had withdrawn coins from fortunejack yesterday and it was instant. it always has been, but recently the confirmation time is too long. btw my transaction was confirmed today!

The mempool has been really high lately so transactions are requiring higher fees in order to confirm in a timely manner. It is likely just due to this that the transactions were taking a long time to confirm is my guess.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: roadbits on December 03, 2016, 11:10:08 PM
I do not think that the FortuneJack's site be closed, because I am using for a long time, and never had a problem. withdrawal problems is only late confirmation

Yes, they will not close this site because it is one of the best gambling sites. From their system, they will approve most of the transactions fast, but the only delay happens from the blockchain end. Most of the sites may be having the same issue due to blockchain delay.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: adaseb on December 03, 2016, 11:53:57 PM
Their withdraws are instant but it took probably 20 hours to confirm. Not Fortunejacks fault, if you check their miner fee, they include a very high miner fee however lately there is a huge memlog that its causing any transaction that are less than 100Sats/byte to take hours to confirm.

Don't understand why you are blaming Fortunejack, when this is clearly a problem with the miner pools which are refusing to launch Segwit to fix these issues


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: maku on December 04, 2016, 12:55:04 AM
I have one question - do you guys only play on FortunJack? What about other casinos withdrawal times, are they normal and don't stuck in the mempool?

Now Bitcoin network is doing just fine with ~5k unconfirmed transaction at any time, so there shouldn't be any more delays anyway.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Milkduds on December 04, 2016, 01:17:40 AM
Transactions in and out are always fast, its the one thing I wish other sites could copy.
But I have never understood what people are playing on the site to say its tbe best.
Poker is mostly Argentinian players and nothing runs at a level close to 50NL. They do not add to the tables, sitngoes are now dead.
Dice clearly is still having issues and I do not get into any form of online casino play. Guess each his own in that aspect.
If they ever added 2Nl to 100Nl the site would be amazing but it seems happy as is.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: klf on December 04, 2016, 01:36:17 AM
I have one question - do you guys only play on FortunJack? What about other casinos withdrawal times, are they normal and don't stuck in the mempool?

Now Bitcoin network is doing just fine with ~5k unconfirmed transaction at any time, so there shouldn't be any more delays anyway.

Last Friday I withdrew my signature earnings by paying 0.0006 fees from Bitsler site and got my funds within few minutes. But I didn't try on the same day with Fortunejack withdrawal, and I don't think we have an option in forutunejack to pay a higher fee to get faster confirmations.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: RHavar on December 04, 2016, 03:13:24 AM
Don't understand why you are blaming Fortunejack, when this is clearly a problem with the miner pools which are refusing to launch Segwit to fix these issues

That's not correct. It's the sending parties responsibility to ensure that enough transaction are getting confirmed in a reasonable amount of time. If the transaction fees are too high, they should increase the fees they charge players in order to support it. If a transaction gets stuck, they can do what I do and repriortize it by pulling from the change address (CPFP).


FWIW, these issues will exist even with segwit and something all bitcoin services and wallets need to start handling.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: kolloh on December 04, 2016, 04:07:35 AM
That's not correct. It's the sending parties responsibility to ensure that enough transaction are getting confirmed in a reasonable amount of time. If the transaction fees are too high, they should increase the fees they charge players in order to support it. If a transaction gets stuck, they can do what I do and repriortize it by pulling from the change address (CPFP).

FWIW, these issues will exist even with segwit and something all bitcoin services and wallets need to start handling.

Yeah, I think a large percentage of the sites out there just include static fees based on size. Ideally, they should be accounting for network congestion and adjusting to help ensure quick confirmation times. No one is happy when they have to wait sometimes over 24 hours for a confirmation. Of course these higher fees would likely need to be passed on to the players or perhaps give them the choice of paying extra for fast confirmation or paying a lower fee for a longer confirmation time.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: MinerHQ on December 04, 2016, 04:40:50 AM
Don't understand why you are blaming Fortunejack, when this is clearly a problem with the miner pools which are refusing to launch Segwit to fix these issues

That's not correct. It's the sending parties responsibility to ensure that enough transaction are getting confirmed in a reasonable amount of time. If the transaction fees are too high, they should increase the fees they charge players in order to support it. If a transaction gets stuck, they can do what I do and repriortize it by pulling from the change address (CPFP).


FWIW, these issues will exist even with segwit and something all bitcoin services and wallets need to start handling.

Yes, that's what I also said. It is entirely fortunejack irresponsibility made this delay. If they can't afford to send money without any fee, then they should change the terms saying that they will charge some fee for each withdrawal and push that fee to the players. Instead, they pay a little fee for each transaction and all these issues players need to face and wait for day or two to get their money back.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: roadbits on December 04, 2016, 05:49:33 AM
That's not correct. It's the sending parties responsibility to ensure that enough transaction are getting confirmed in a reasonable amount of time. If the transaction fees are too high, they should increase the fees they charge players in order to support it. If a transaction gets stuck, they can do what I do and repriortize it by pulling from the change address (CPFP).

FWIW, these issues will exist even with segwit and something all bitcoin services and wallets need to start handling.

Yeah, I think a large percentage of the sites out there just include static fees based on size. Ideally, they should be accounting for network congestion and adjusting to help ensure quick confirmation times. No one is happy when they have to wait sometimes over 24 hours for a confirmation. Of course these higher fees would likely need to be passed on to the players or perhaps give them the choice of paying extra for fast confirmation or paying a lower fee for a longer confirmation time.

But fortunejack don't take any extra fee from the players to send money to their accounts because they are absorbing it. But now if many players start complaining then they may consider passing on these extra fees to players to make things faster. Until now all my payments are quite OK from fortunejack.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: veleten on December 04, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
the problem you described is blockchain related,not fortune jack's fault
but on the other hand good sites have several transaction fees options to make sure no things like that happen
either they allow the user to choose tx fee(like bitsler) or increase them manually if blockchain is facing difficulties(like fd used to do)
anyways glad you got your money finally and there is no scam accusations flying,as FD is a reputable site and I highly doubt they would attempt to scam a player


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Bestwishes745 on December 04, 2016, 06:47:23 PM
They have to know that now the fees for transactions is high so they have to charge some fees and have to make the transactions faster because in the current situation the members are feeling annoying which is not good for their business.


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: beber456 on December 04, 2016, 08:47:12 PM
i use fortunejack for poker until 1 or 2 years ,  dat thread  afraid me so i cashed out  my 0.1 there ...
Recently i saw they closed some porker  tourney ... idk what to think about it ...
Btw fortune jack is  running a promo actually  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1701601.0 ...


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Superways on December 04, 2016, 09:10:14 PM
i use fortunejack for poker until 1 or 2 years ,  dat thread  afraid me so i cashed out  my 0.1 there ...
Recently i saw they closed some porker  tourney ... idk what to think about it ...
Btw fortune jack is  running a promo actually  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1701601.0 ...
If the administration has not announced it then we do not have to rely on only one thread I think they may have some problems that is why they are numbed in their services but still your precaution is better as no one know that what a company want. we will wait for their announcement


Title: Re: fortunejack site is going to close?
Post by: Mr.grin on December 04, 2016, 09:40:12 PM
Well, I guess FortuneJack sites have resumed, and I saw that there was a promo that was running at the time. Well, FortuneJack has long standing, and it's really become a successful site. I think it will not make its FortuneJack disappointed, so do not think that FortuneJack going to disappoint you, because if the payment is late, maybe they are preparing something.  ;)