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Title: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 03, 2016, 01:47:44 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/pros-and-cons-of-starting-bitcoin-mining-farm-no-more-childs-play

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Calculations look good and you are determined to start mining? You might want to turn to UFOMiners LLC, as they will surely provide you with the best advice on how to choose the best mining hardware.

Prove:
http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-scam-site-warning-ufominers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1665331.0

How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Anyone can confirm this?  :o


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Snorek on December 03, 2016, 02:39:36 AM
You can clearly see tag: "sponsored article" which is basically paid advertisement in the form of a news.
Cointelegraph probably doesn't research anything and as long as you paid them they will publish anything, even news about mining farms on the moon.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: bL4nkcode on December 03, 2016, 04:12:20 AM
They don't give a shit at all, they don't even review either if these sites are legit or scammers as long as they get paid they will advertise that site. That's the power of money nowadays  ::)


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on December 03, 2016, 04:48:59 AM
As the tag "sponsored article" they just paid for published this without research first the contents.
But I think there are people who don't know about this case, also not research first a contents too. They got scammed and a scammer company earn more ::)

I think media, especially online media nowadays have an important role. They have a power to influence people. So we need to be a smart reader.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Herbert2020 on December 03, 2016, 05:56:01 AM
this is not new at all. they have been doing this forever.
cointelegraph and so many other crappy news sites are doing the same thing, they publish whatever pays them the most no matter if it is scam, harmful, FUD, or even support of an altcoin someone wanted to pump. as long as they get paid or they feel like it is a good click bait to generate more traffic for them, they will publish it.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: OmegaStarScream on December 03, 2016, 06:00:09 AM
It's not like they are advertising them in purpose but they simply advertise whoever pays the most without giving a damn about the readers of their blog.

I'm going to list a few sites that cointelegraph advertised and turned into a full scam :

- HashOcean
- Biteminer
- Hashing24 (not yet but there is a scam accusation at the moment)
- BitPlutos (more then one scam accusation against them)
- Coince
- SearchTrade

and there is a lot more. I guess It's worth reading this article made by a former writer : https://medium.com/@iandemartino/more-on-cointelegraph-by-a-former-writer-b4e1058b37ca#.bcaxjgfm0


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Patatas on December 03, 2016, 07:05:18 AM
It's not like they are advertising them in purpose but they simply advertise whoever pays the most without giving a damn about the readers of their blog.
Not exactly.The don't do regression searches over the content that's being advertised but that doesn't mean they promote obvious scams.Like why you would not see them promoting and bitcoin HYIPS ? I'm sure the HYIP creators can certainly pay good enough for promotion,rather an "investment".

I'm going to list a few sites that cointelegraph advertised and turned into a full scam :

- HashOcean
- Biteminer
- Hashing24 (not yet but there is a scam accusation at the moment)
- BitPlutos (more then one scam accusation against them)
- Coince
- SearchTrade
Those didn't turn into a scam after they day there advertised.Neither anyone had an idea of their intentions.It was only after a few months people started saying  "what sorcery is this" ?


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Lutpin on December 03, 2016, 07:11:04 AM
Neither anyone had an idea of their intentions.
Well, there's been a pretty critic discussion about Coince very soon (reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1365561.0),
so people did have an idea about what was going to happen.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Patatas on December 03, 2016, 07:24:55 AM
Neither anyone had an idea of their intentions.
Well, there's been a pretty critic discussion about Coince very soon (reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1365561.0),
so people did have an idea about what was going to happen.
I wonder why that thread is not open for further discussions ? But anyway,that makes sense because only after interference from the community we concluded it is a ponzi.Maybe cointelegraph doesn't invest as much time as they should be before promoting obvious scams.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Slow death on December 03, 2016, 09:04:13 AM
How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Look this:

https://i.imgur.com/BAdn2oo.png

They advise that the article is sponsored, that is, It is the responsibility of the person who paid the article to be published and of yours as a reader to do research before believing the things that are in the sponsored article.

I am against scammer and thieves, but no one can accuse a news site that post sponsored articles.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: OmegaStarScream on December 03, 2016, 09:13:51 AM
They advise that the article is sponsored, that is, It is the responsibility of the person who paid the article to be published and of yours as a reader to do research before believing the things that are in the sponsored article.

I am against scammer and thieves, but no one can accuse a news site that post sponsored articles.

Then why we don't see Coindesk or other known Bitcoin news sites doing the same thing ? An obvious scam , is easy to spot (I'm not saying that those who use the services have no responsibility but It's CT fault). In fact , writers should have the ability to spot scams more then we do because they are used to write about those services etc... but It doesn't look like It's the case for CT.

Neither anyone had an idea of their intentions.
Well, there's been a pretty critic discussion about Coince very soon (reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1365561.0),
so people did have an idea about what was going to happen.
I wonder why that thread is not open for further discussions ? But anyway,that makes sense because only after interference from the community we concluded it is a ponzi.Maybe cointelegraph doesn't invest as much time as they should be before promoting obvious scams.

I thought enough evidence was posted on the topic that is no longer needed to post more.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Slow death on December 03, 2016, 09:45:17 AM


Then why we don't see Coindesk or other known Bitcoin news sites doing the same thing ?


Maybe it's because of your CoinDesk Advertising Guidelines (http://www.coindesk.com/advertising-guidelines/).

https://i.imgur.com/1m2sxoR.png
https://i.imgur.com/CVY9rzR.png
https://i.imgur.com/tPjmuCG.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZcfyVAp.png


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: coolcoinz on December 03, 2016, 11:32:07 AM
Coindesk is doing the same thing by promoting altcoins they are most likely invested into. Last month I checked Coindesk maybe 3 times and every time the main page was screaming that Zcash is a good investment. A sponsored article is a sponsored article, nothing more, period.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Lutpin on December 03, 2016, 11:34:45 AM
Coindesk is doing the same thing by promoting altcoins they are most likely invested into. Last month I checked Coindesk maybe 3 times and every time the main page was screaming that Zcash is a good investment.
You mean like they say in the disclosure message at the end of every article about ZEC?
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an investment stake in the startup supporting Zcash's open-source development.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: coolcoinz on December 03, 2016, 11:44:54 AM
Coindesk is doing the same thing by promoting altcoins they are most likely invested into. Last month I checked Coindesk maybe 3 times and every time the main page was screaming that Zcash is a good investment.
You mean like they say in the disclosure message at the end of every article about ZEC?
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an investment stake in the startup supporting Zcash's open-source development.

Now, what are they? Journalists or coin pushers? What is the difference between promoting a business you have a stake in and posting sponsored articles? Not here to defend Cointelegraph, but it's a common practice.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: favdesu on December 03, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
not surprising. contelegraph does everything for some money. remember when they pushed paycoin? I do. It's best to ignore that clown site, journalism is non-existent anyways in my opinion.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: European Central Bank on December 03, 2016, 08:29:53 PM
if you want real news go to a real site. none of the 'coin' news sites are any more legit than most of the services and coins they cover. it's just as shitty as it's ever been.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 03, 2016, 10:53:54 PM
if you want real news go to a real site. none of the 'coin' news sites are any more legit than most of the services and coins they cover. it's just as shitty as it's ever been.
Yes, But remember if cointelegraph hadn't done it in the past. And I guess, it will sacrifice the site just for earning some bucks. Because there is some people felt if they still a reliable site right now.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 03, 2016, 10:59:01 PM
this is not new at all. they have been doing this forever.
cointelegraph and so many other crappy news sites are doing the same thing, they publish whatever pays them the most no matter if it is scam, harmful, FUD, or even support of an altcoin someone wanted to pump. as long as they get paid or they feel like it is a good click bait to generate more traffic for them, they will publish it.
I find a lot in the ANN altcoin. funny site  ::)


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: ged00u on December 03, 2016, 11:18:47 PM
They run they site and they need money dude. You can not criticize them for that. I have also seen blockchain.info advertise some cloud mining sites too. When you run a site which has a large number of audiences, you must put some banners to earn some extra money.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: LTU_btc on December 04, 2016, 12:30:41 AM
if you want real news go to a real site. none of the 'coin' news sites are any more legit than most of the services and coins they cover. it's just as shitty as it's ever been.
Yes, But remember if cointelegraph hadn't done it in the past. And I guess, it will sacrifice the site just for earning some bucks. Because there is some people felt if they still a reliable site right now.
As I remember, Cointelegraph always published such sponsored advertising articles. News sites shouldn't work in this style. It becomes hard to trust cryptonews sites. This is why I prefer to follow news on bitcointalk instead of crypto news sites.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: European Central Bank on December 04, 2016, 01:06:08 AM
And I guess, it will sacrifice the site just for earning some bucks.

yup. most of them do it multiple times a week and most people reading it don't seem to give a shit. there've only been a handful of sites with any integrity and the will to unearth some actual truth and news like coin fire. the rest are all empty whores like so many others on the crypto scene.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Snorek on December 04, 2016, 01:18:30 AM
Now, what are they? Journalists or coin pushers? What is the difference between promoting a business you have a stake in and posting sponsored articles? Not here to defend Cointelegraph, but it's a common practice.

It is not like you can find objective cryptocurrency journalism in the first place, every news site has its own agenda and are not here to educate or inform people but to earn money.
This is the reason we have sponsored articles, paid advertisements and articles about certain altcoins spreading. Don't live in the dark - do your own research.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: mrcash02 on December 04, 2016, 02:14:38 AM
Some people don't consider Ponzi, HYIP sites as thieves, but as a ''gambling, luck'' site, because who is investing on those sites know about the risks and are just trying their luck, to make profit before the site vanishes. The only really affect by these scammers are the newbies believing they really can make profit. But surely it's not advisable to have such advertises in any sites.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: favdesu on December 04, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
They run they site and they need money dude. You can not criticize them for that. I have also seen blockchain.info advertise some cloud mining sites too. When you run a site which has a large number of audiences, you must put some banners to earn some extra money.

you can do it and apply some common ethics.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: European Central Bank on December 04, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
you can do it and apply some common ethics.

yup and that also equals building a reputation that lasts and grows. crypto's going nowhere and people will always be info hungry. you can build trust and keep growing into a giant or throw it away for $50 per scam article and be deservedly forgotten.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: favdesu on December 04, 2016, 03:55:43 PM
you can do it and apply some common ethics.

yup and that also equals building a reputation that lasts and grows. crypto's going nowhere and people will always be info hungry. you can build trust and keep growing into a giant or throw it away for $50 per scam article and be deservedly forgotten.

that's why I avoid contelegraph like the plague.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: acroman08 on December 04, 2016, 04:33:59 PM
They run they site and they need money dude. You can not criticize them for that. I have also seen blockchain.info advertise some cloud mining sites too. When you run a site which has a large number of audiences, you must put some banners to earn some extra money.

you can do it and apply some common ethics.
I agree. Why should I waste my time and read their "news" when I see them so obviously promoting scam/deceptive sites.
It clearly shows their lack of concern for their readers and just further highlights their main priority as making money.


I personally like crypto-news.net , it's a fairly new site but I've found some of the articles they've published as really helpful and informative. And, I have yet to see it promoting any sort of shady sites.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: darklus123 on December 04, 2016, 04:53:43 PM
This is not a surprise at all for a blog site. Special those who accept pay per review. Yet this is not of course applicable for all bloggers(yet a very good of gaining people interest in your blog is to put some tactics in writing those). I've done being payed too review as site before and different client would always have different perspective(and you will just have to do your job). It is your choice at all if you do want to do it with ethical values or not.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: piloder on December 04, 2016, 06:33:43 PM
You can clearly see tag: "sponsored article" which is basically paid advertisement in the form of a news.
Actually cointelegraph publish sponsored article from scams even if they have done research behind company/project they are promoting. I don't think they are not aware of this scam UFOminers, they try to just got away with all money in the name of paid/sponsored article aren't written by us.

They are known for promoting several cloud mining scams before too.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: Rodeo02 on December 07, 2016, 12:56:04 AM
You can clearly see tag: "sponsored article" which is basically paid advertisement in the form of a news.
Actually cointelegraph publish sponsored article from scams even if they have done research behind company/project they are promoting. I don't think they are not aware of this scam UFOminers, they try to just got away with all money in the name of paid/sponsored article aren't written by us.

They are known for promoting several cloud mining scams before too.
Yes and it's not new in cointelgraph they already promoting some of it before and now its already close.if you wise enough you will do your own research about investment you want to entered before putting your money in.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: pinkflower on December 07, 2016, 07:34:41 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/pros-and-cons-of-starting-bitcoin-mining-farm-no-more-childs-play

Quote
Calculations look good and you are determined to start mining? You might want to turn to UFOMiners LLC, as they will surely provide you with the best advice on how to choose the best mining hardware.

Prove:
http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-scam-site-warning-ufominers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1665331.0

How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Anyone can confirm this?  :o

I am in no way surprised by this. If you read BTC news from different sites you notice that some news are very hypey and pumpy on Cointelegraph. The journalists at there are maybe biased and like some of the media outlets, even corrupt. Be careful in what you are reading and do not readily believe in them.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 07, 2016, 08:15:39 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/pros-and-cons-of-starting-bitcoin-mining-farm-no-more-childs-play

Quote
Calculations look good and you are determined to start mining? You might want to turn to UFOMiners LLC, as they will surely provide you with the best advice on how to choose the best mining hardware.

Prove:
http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-scam-site-warning-ufominers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1665331.0

How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Anyone can confirm this?  :o

I am in no way surprised by this. If you read BTC news from different sites you notice that some news are very hypey and pumpy on Cointelegraph. The journalists at there are maybe biased and like some of the media outlets, even corrupt. Be careful in what you are reading and do not readily believe in them.

I know about that, It was applying on every site. Look at the announcement section of alt.
Too many coins were being easy to advertise on some site, seems like just pay some and you will get enroll for that.
I might have thought if that will be another plague.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: pinkflower on December 08, 2016, 05:51:43 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/pros-and-cons-of-starting-bitcoin-mining-farm-no-more-childs-play

Quote
Calculations look good and you are determined to start mining? You might want to turn to UFOMiners LLC, as they will surely provide you with the best advice on how to choose the best mining hardware.

Prove:
http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-scam-site-warning-ufominers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1665331.0

How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Anyone can confirm this?  :o

I am in no way surprised by this. If you read BTC news from different sites you notice that some news are very hypey and pumpy on Cointelegraph. The journalists at there are maybe biased and like some of the media outlets, even corrupt. Be careful in what you are reading and do not readily believe in them.

I know about that, It was applying on every site. Look at the announcement section of alt.
Too many coins were being easy to advertise on some site, seems like just pay some and you will get enroll for that.
I might have thought if that will be another plague.

Yes but the announcement section of the alt is not pretending to be the media which is supposed to be honest and objective. The BTC news sites have the responsibility to bring the truth to the community not to make subjective claims and making promotions to benefit themselves.


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 08, 2016, 06:10:44 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/pros-and-cons-of-starting-bitcoin-mining-farm-no-more-childs-play

Quote
Calculations look good and you are determined to start mining? You might want to turn to UFOMiners LLC, as they will surely provide you with the best advice on how to choose the best mining hardware.

Prove:
http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-scam-site-warning-ufominers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1665331.0

How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Anyone can confirm this?  :o

I am in no way surprised by this. If you read BTC news from different sites you notice that some news are very hypey and pumpy on Cointelegraph. The journalists at there are maybe biased and like some of the media outlets, even corrupt. Be careful in what you are reading and do not readily believe in them.

I know about that, It was applying on every site. Look at the announcement section of alt.
Too many coins were being easy to advertise on some site, seems like just pay some and you will get enroll for that.
I might have thought if that will be another plague.

Yes but the announcement section of the alt is not pretending to be the media which is supposed to be honest and objective. The BTC news sites have the responsibility to bring the truth to the community not to make subjective claims and making promotions to benefit themselves.

The cointelegraph has told me the truth. It was discarding my trust with it. I may think if it might have a filtered standard for choose the positive news to get spread in our community. And in this cases seems like they were saying "who cares".


Title: Re: Cointelegaph was publishing scam promotion.
Post by: pinkflower on December 09, 2016, 06:58:56 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/pros-and-cons-of-starting-bitcoin-mining-farm-no-more-childs-play

Quote
Calculations look good and you are determined to start mining? You might want to turn to UFOMiners LLC, as they will surely provide you with the best advice on how to choose the best mining hardware.

Prove:
http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-scam-site-warning-ufominers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1665331.0

How many they have got paid for publishing the scam advertisement.
Cointelegraph = Scam advertisement site(Is the publication free for everyone?)  

Anyone can confirm this?  :o

I am in no way surprised by this. If you read BTC news from different sites you notice that some news are very hypey and pumpy on Cointelegraph. The journalists at there are maybe biased and like some of the media outlets, even corrupt. Be careful in what you are reading and do not readily believe in them.

I know about that, It was applying on every site. Look at the announcement section of alt.
Too many coins were being easy to advertise on some site, seems like just pay some and you will get enroll for that.
I might have thought if that will be another plague.

Yes but the announcement section of the alt is not pretending to be the media which is supposed to be honest and objective. The BTC news sites have the responsibility to bring the truth to the community not to make subjective claims and making promotions to benefit themselves.

The cointelegraph has told me the truth. It was discarding my trust with it. I may think if it might have a filtered standard for choose the positive news to get spread in our community. And in this cases seems like they were saying "who cares".

If theyre really saying "Who cares?" then they should not be in the news giving business. They have a responsibility to uphold and doing a bad job on that will not reflect on them well. People will stop taking all the BS that they spew.