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Did quark become susceptible to ASICs? It seemed like a solid algorithm. Were there technical issues, or did the coins themselves just never generate support due to lack of continuing development?

Quark was massively premined and that put investors off. Other coins like secure coin are using similar algorithms to quark and their networks have been working for years. They normally give their algorithms different names to the quark one but they are essentially the same.

It may have been instamined to a certain degree but nothing like some other coins. It's minting phase was short and the developers although keeping it updated to a certain degree did nothing much with it. The fact it was not premined at all led to the devs not caring about it too much. That stephen guy who used to blast coin releases got a huge amount as did a few others but they dumped it hard at the start too.

As far as I know there are no quark asics i was wrong. A few coins are using that algo. Dnet and mue are but mue is changing soon. Quarks algo was good at the time took some time for gpu miners to show up publically anyway.

Shame it collapsed and that all we had was cryptsy really at the time which fucked it all up. Put a lot of new investors off of crypto that came in from outside this board. Bill still was convinced but sadly it was dumped hard. It is all but abandoned and polo and bittrex dont even have it listed. All trade is mostly on btc38.

I guess the question is more about its algo rather than the coin. Some still use it.

Great summary! I piddled around in crypto a bit during the first big wave at the end of '13 then came back recently to discover the world had largely changed. I am approaching things differently this time, and rather than focusing on making a quick buck from being "one of the first 5 minute miners of random catcoin" and now looking at things from a developmental angle. I remember quark being GPU resistant at the time, but see that has changed since.

Currently reading the Princeton Bitcoin Book and hoping I can absorb lessons learned and contribute meaningfully to the development process.

That is right. It seems that the Quark is like another scam coin. There is no active development of the coin now.

I wonder what coding developments from the past few years could be added to bring the algo up to date. Things like security, difficulty adjustment, etc. I know the whole "gravity well" difficulty was just taking off when I left the scene.

Bunch of coins use Quark as a hashing algo and yes, there are ASIC available for it.

How much alteration to the algo would be necessary to make it ASIC resistant again? Would it require a rebuild from the ground up?

you need to change the rounds and make it slightly different, but without turning it into something else like keccak, or you can change the parameters like in the new lyra for zcoin? but at that point i would change the name to avoid confusion andit would be a botnetcoin, and this is bad like asic or worst

Why not just use x11 or 13 instead?

What are the benefits of those algos?

And what other newer parameters like difficulty scaling and such from the last few years would you implement?

Bwahaha what about a reverse PoS where you lose coins?

i saw this ASIC miner on cryptomining blog

http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/quark-asic-miner/


so X11, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit are no more ASIC resistant

Interesting. Just replace a few of the algo's in x11 with some other algos that arent in it right now and that asic is not capable of mining it.

some one already done it with x11-ghost, c11 and x11evo  ;D

Good to know. Its not hard to avoid asics if you are willing to throw some forks in to change up the algo once the asic is developed.

Oh my god damn fucking god you are stupid. (it would take two seconds to Google it or look at the ANN topic)

That is a bold face lie.. i know i was here when it launched.
And you are the 1,000th person to say this moronic bullshit lie too.

Seriously people be VERY careful what idiot shady darting in the shadows little douche you listen to around here.

Anyway screw this guy and his dumb bullshit lies..
To answer the question.

I would say it suffered from "Another coin syndrome"
Some other coin came along and people dumped and dived onto the next one.. for PROFITS.
And what helped push this along was MAX KEISER and his pump & dump shenanigans.

On the Algo itself it also then became the template for a thousand other coins that came out afterwards.
An endless stream of coins came out with more or less merged algo's.
Such as X11 or X13 etc
Quark had a mix of algo's that i believe was intended to provide an extra level of security.
Whether it accomplished this point or not i am not sure.

So.. the entire scene plagiarized the living shit out of Quark then gave it no credits then bad mouthed it with lies then dumped it to death until it got delisted.

It's what you scummy little profiteers do.