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Title: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Tek9 on December 06, 2016, 10:07:14 PM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: longbob72 on December 06, 2016, 10:14:51 PM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


Firstly, wrong section. Secondly, 13 losses in a row with around 49 chance of winning each round is not impossible at all (people have gotten as high as 18 losses in a row, some claims even more). If you only lost few satoshi then consider yourself lucky.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Tek9 on December 06, 2016, 10:18:14 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: longbob72 on December 06, 2016, 10:43:10 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

You got 5 losses, then 1 win, then 13 losses. Not 18 losses in a row. That's a big difference.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Shinpako09 on December 06, 2016, 11:18:07 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke
That is not a joke actually. Others have gotten a red streak more than that. I also got 18 red streak but i didnt complain. Others got a 30 red streak but also didnt complain. And we have lose more than what you have lose but we didnt complain. Why are those who lose small amount are always complaining. Stay away from gambling if you cant afford to lose even small amount.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: FFrankie on December 06, 2016, 11:38:51 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

You got 5 losses, then 1 win, then 13 losses. Not 18 losses in a row. That's a big difference.

If you were at the casino and played roulette and red came out 13 times in a row you would be throwing a fit. Ive never seen any streak like that in a casino before, but I see it a lot in dice.... 


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: mdexm on December 06, 2016, 11:50:22 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

You got 5 losses, then 1 win, then 13 losses. Not 18 losses in a row. That's a big difference.

If you were at the casino and played roulette and red came out 13 times in a row you would be throwing a fit. Ive never seen any streak like that in a casino before, but I see it a lot in dice.... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy#Monte_Carlo_Casino

Also I saw a 14 black streak on roulette just last week. Boo hoo, and this is exactly why martingale fails as a system.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: numanoid on December 07, 2016, 12:51:18 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?
The odds still possible. "always"? I assume you are often playing on that site (Freebitcoin)? If you think that site always cheating, don't playing on there again, very simple, isn't it?
~snip~
I also got 18 red streak but i didnt complain.
You are also got 18 streak loses in HI-LO games? Those people who you said got 30+ streak loses, they got it from dice game.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: roadbits on December 07, 2016, 01:29:14 AM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

You got 5 losses, then 1 win, then 13 losses. Not 18 losses in a row. That's a big difference.

If you were at the casino and played roulette and red came out 13 times in a row you would be throwing a fit. Ive never seen any streak like that in a casino before, but I see it a lot in dice.... 

I don't think we can do that in a casino because they will have a better security system but you or we can though our computers at home and no one will stop. Just joking...

This kind of continuous losses is quite common in dice games so I don't like to play auto betting because manual means I can stop at any time.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: BTCevo on December 07, 2016, 03:27:01 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)

I dont understand why this is impossible? Many people already face this kind of problems though, like 30 red streak which is on 1% house edge mean while your playing site is having more than 1% of house edge and your loss not even near to 30 red atreaks so why complaining? If you cant stand on having such a losing streak, dont gamble then


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: DarkStar_ on December 07, 2016, 03:31:51 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


Firstly, wrong section. Secondly, 13 losses in a row with around 49 chance of winning each round is not impossible at all (people have gotten as high as 18 losses in a row, some claims even more). If you only lost few satoshi then consider yourself lucky.
The record (from a while back, probably 2014 or 2015) on Just-Dice, when it was bitcoin based was 32 losses in a row on a 49 to 51% win chance.
0.51 to the power of 13 is 0.00015791096563, so the chance of losing 13 times in a row is 0.015%. Unlikely, but not possible. Also, you probably wouldn't even bat an eye if you won 13 times in a row, which can also happen, but with the strategy your using, it won't benefit. If you still think they cheat, bet LO instead. Those 13 losses are now wins.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Achargeturry78 on December 07, 2016, 03:34:19 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)
This site is freebitco.in right? i always encounter this kind of loosing super hot steak and i don't know if the owner is using probability fair for all players. Try to report this to the owner of this website.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: xhomerx10 on December 07, 2016, 03:37:20 AM
...[redacted]
...If you still think they cheat, bet LO instead. Those 13 losses are now wins.

 If they are cheating, those 13 losses will still be 13 losses regardless of the bet.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Herbert2020 on December 07, 2016, 06:52:40 AM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

bets are not connected to each other. each bet you make is a new one regardless of the previous bet. so it can be loss or it can be win. in other words you have the same chance for win or lose in each single bet and if you lose 18 times your 19th bet can still be loss and so on until eternity.

and if you are worried about scam then learn what provably fair is and then check if the site is fair or not.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: raaajlucky on December 07, 2016, 07:19:06 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)
This site is freebitco.in right? i always encounter this kind of loosing super hot steak and i don't know if the owner is using probability fair for all players. Try to report this to the owner of this website.

Not only in freebitco.in but in dice game mostly it happens on all sites if anyone gambles for hours or more. Sometimes we can see this kind of continuous losses at the beginning itself.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: ralle14 on December 07, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)
That's gambling for you even if the chances are so small for it to happen it's still possible for everyone to lose that much. You're lucky that you're only playing with faucet money. To make yourself feel better here's a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1417931.0) where gamblers share their losing streak on dice.


no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

bets are not connected to each other. each bet you make is a new one regardless of the previous bet. so it can be loss or it can be win. in other words you have the same chance for win or lose in each single bet and if you lose 18 times your 19th bet can still be loss and so on until eternity.

and if you are worried about scam then learn what provably fair is and then check if the site is fair or not.
It is provably fair if you look the screenshot by the OP there's a "VER" column where you could verify each roll that it's fair and not rigged.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: coinplus on December 07, 2016, 10:06:22 AM
If you keep on trying like this then you may get chances to break the old records of continuous loosing streaks and certainly you will never able to make profits neither recover your losses.

If you wish to set new records then keep on try else quit it right now at least.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Golftech on December 07, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
For sure its not only you who experience the same fate and consider this things as part of learning or a sign for you to stop playing its not the site whi cheats its just the timing mate just like many people here said there's a player who got loss 32 streak so 18 is just more than a half of it.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: canah17 on December 07, 2016, 11:34:34 AM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)

Yes and No i would like to tell you that some of the websites are a scam or fixed winning. What do i mean? so i mean that if you play 18 games and then they will let you at first try then if you bet on it again that's the time they will make you lose in streak i have been in that situation but still i definitely won't give up because of the winning rate is so big from the other players then what i did i observe the game then i tried to bet smaller amount so i figured out that if you play 10 games you will win like 3 or 5 games if you bet smaller amount but if you bet big amount of btc then you will lose it like sand >.< yes they are cheating but i don't know the other websites :D


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: xuan87 on December 07, 2016, 12:01:42 PM
It is common thing, many of the user lost more than 13 streaks, including me, and i played in different dice site and the results still the same, the main point of dice gambling is know when to stop, without stopping you will lose your bet, but seeing from the imgur, i think you were playing in freebitcoin, this site is a bit strange because when i pay attention to my stats, i never win 10 times in a row but i can lose 18 times in a streak and the winning chance i set was 50%, but i don't want to accused anything maybe it just my bad day


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: noictib on December 07, 2016, 12:45:53 PM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)
I think this is a common thing for a gambler .
About one year ago I made collection of 50k satoshi by solved capatcha at freebitco.in and then I made gambling with trick but after one hour continue bet I lost me bet 18 times continuously and finally lost all satoshi .
Actually this is all over the house edge profit .
For example the house edge of freebitco.in is about 5%  ,So I will suggest you to get knowledge about house edge for gambling site before gamble and stop gambling after reaching the house edge .


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: Red-Apple on December 07, 2016, 01:11:18 PM

to insert images from imgur you have to put the link to the image itself (the link ending in .jpg) not the album link.

anyways, you have a 13 losing streak on 2x multiplier on a dice game with (if i am not mistaken) with 5% house edge. you should feel lucky that you had only 13. my record on a 2x multiplier on regular dice sites with 1% and less house edge is 28 losses in a row.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 07, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
you still have a good luck than me because you can see your win while its still big your losing depend of your winning because todays i only get loss all in the games and not get win in dice games. but from the image, i will not playing multiplier on that site because i never get the winning chance so i only play for the faucet.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: DarkStar_ on December 08, 2016, 02:25:45 AM
...[redacted]
...If you still think they cheat, bet LO instead. Those 13 losses are now wins.

 If they are cheating, those 13 losses will still be 13 losses regardless of the bet.

I assumed that OP was thinking that they generated hashs that would have long LO streaks for the first thousand bets, or something, and I assumed that he verified every bet and made sure the seeds were the same, and that no nonces were skipped. The provably fair system works, so their for them to cheat, it would be mostly detectable.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: th3nolo on December 08, 2016, 06:45:04 AM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

bets are not connected to each other. each bet you make is a new one regardless of the previous bet. so it can be loss or it can be win. in other words you have the same chance for win or lose in each single bet and if you lose 18 times your 19th bet can still be loss and so on until eternity.

and if you are worried about scam then learn what provably fair is and then check if the site is fair or not.

It seems he need to read about how works the provably fair system. I always said to my friends every bet is not connected to each other and they don't believe in me, always complain about the casino no matter if they have a provably fair system.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: emberbekas on December 08, 2016, 06:34:00 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

bets are not connected to each other. each bet you make is a new one regardless of the previous bet. so it can be loss or it can be win. in other words you have the same chance for win or lose in each single bet and if you lose 18 times your 19th bet can still be loss and so on until eternity.

and if you are worried about scam then learn what provably fair is and then check if the site is fair or not.

It seems he need to read about how works the provably fair system. I always said to my friends every bet is not connected to each other and they don't believe in me, always complain about the casino no matter if they have a provably fair system.

I got even more than 18 reds at a row with x2 payout and a lot people already faced the same thing aswell. At first, I cant believe with what I've just found but as soon as I realized that anything can happen in gambling I try to forget it. It is very common nowadays to see people complain about provably fair system when they met unexpected result like this.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: shadobitz on December 08, 2016, 06:44:50 PM
no man, i got 18 losses, 1 winning. . . that is a joke

bets are not connected to each other. each bet you make is a new one regardless of the previous bet. so it can be loss or it can be win. in other words you have the same chance for win or lose in each single bet and if you lose 18 times your 19th bet can still be loss and so on until eternity.

and if you are worried about scam then learn what provably fair is and then check if the site is fair or not.

It seems he need to read about how works the provably fair system. I always said to my friends every bet is not connected to each other and they don't believe in me, always complain about the casino no matter if they have a provably fair system.

I got even more than 18 reds at a row with x2 payout and a lot people already faced the same thing aswell. At first, I cant believe with what I've just found but as soon as I realized that anything can happen in gambling I try to forget it. It is very common nowadays to see people complain about provably fair system when they met unexpected result like this.

With dice anything can happen I also have same  got more than 18 reds in a row with 2x multiplier, so if any gambling sites have proper method to verify the each outcome manually than we call this thing just bad luck and nothing wrong this game.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: KenR on December 08, 2016, 06:48:13 PM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)
Results if impossible or not could only be judged by examing their provable fair calculations.Which site is this? Did you cross check your rolls ?With a 49% chance,this doesn't look bad at all to me.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: canah17 on December 08, 2016, 06:54:10 PM
Odds for that results are impossible. . . why are this sites always cheating?

http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg


http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg (http://imgur.com/a/gdsbg)

Well its a big lose condolence my friend but you have to give up on dice man its not your thing you have to try another game but if you want to proceed of that dice game you should change to another gambling site's i think just maybe that site is not for you to play with its not really cheating is bad luck or the you don't have enough knowledge of that but if you do then bet some lesser amount of btc that what i would do if i have that losing streak so you might have a chance to really win if you would transfer to another site with the same game but still their is some losing and winning but just ease of the game if you lose 5 times just rest your mind and chill be cool because you might have to think it over again just to win if you have cooled your mind so their you have it you might have analysis of the game and win it all with your calm mind :D


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: NorrisK on December 08, 2016, 06:56:24 PM
Yes it sucks when streaks like this happen, but they can happen and thats part of gambling too.

It is also the reason why martingale is not sustainable in the long run. One streak like this can negate hundreds of wins in one fel swoop and leave you without anything..


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: fulgdenea on December 08, 2016, 07:17:32 PM
Yes it sucks when streaks like this happen, but they can happen and thats part of gambling too.

It is also the reason why martingale is not sustainable in the long run. One streak like this can negate hundreds of wins in one fel swoop and leave you without anything..

Yeah, that hurt so bad when any body got this kind of streak especially in most loved dice game, but we can't blame to that site from my opinion it happening when got greedy and want more and more into that session, so better option we always take break for little and try to play for fun there.


Title: Re: Hi chances of that happens
Post by: KenR on December 08, 2016, 07:21:01 PM
Yeah, that hurt so bad when any body got this kind of streak especially in most loved dice game, but we can't blame to that site from my opinion it happening when got greedy and want more and more into that session, so better option we always take break for little and try to play for fun there.
Explain more.We don't really understand how the dice games work or what gambling generally is,bud.Share your valuable knowledge with us since you're sharing it all around the gambling section with your holy circle.Btw,you just said the same thing you've been saying in all your posts.