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Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Taki on December 09, 2016, 08:50:56 PM
As the instrument to invest bitcoin is better than gold, cause bitcoin will bring you profit very fast. But as the way for long time investment and for keeping your money saved gold will be better choice. So from the target that concrete person is looking for - everyone decides to himself.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Deep In The Mines LLC on December 09, 2016, 08:54:05 PM
More positive exposure to Bitcoin, this might help it go up even more.

But yeah Bitcoin's been outperforming Gold this year, who knows if it will next year? I'll be optimistic about it, tho.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on December 09, 2016, 08:59:25 PM
From a speculative standpoint, the potential for high short-term gains makes any investor blind not to dabble in BTC just a little.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: cpfreeplz on December 09, 2016, 09:01:49 PM
This is such a stupid thing to compare bitcoin to. I don't understand why these big wonderful news idiots still don't realize it. It's like comparing a start up tech company stock to a wheat company's stock. It's so random wtf.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on December 09, 2016, 09:03:07 PM
I really miss cypherdoc's bitcoin vs gold thread. Too bad he's a scammer now. Here's a link to the original thread if anyone wants to read it. It has a really good summary of why bitcoin is better than gold and was written long before Forbes ever thought that was true.

Gold: I smell a trap https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35956.msg443129#msg443129


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Yuuto on December 09, 2016, 09:07:19 PM
I can definitely see bitcoin being something great in the next few years but cannot really see gold being anywhere soon. Gold might go up 100%, even, in line with inflation. But bitcoin will probably beat inflation.

Bitcoin is basically digital gold.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Senor.Bla on December 09, 2016, 09:41:16 PM
wow it is always the same thing. if bitcoin had a bad year it is the end of crypto. but if bitcoin had a good year, like this one, then people freak out too. guess where the roller coaster is going next after it was climbing up fore a while. btw i do not get the comparison to gold all the time. gold serves a different purpose and was never meant to break some interest rates like some seem to expect it here. 


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: btvGainer on December 09, 2016, 10:03:23 PM
as far as price is concerned,bitcoin is certainly a better option for it can give huge returns over time but it is also a bit risky as prices are very unstable too.Gold gives financial security to investor


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: adidas on December 09, 2016, 10:19:24 PM
Didn't think of it in that respect but the numbers don't lie. ;)
Bitcoin has been more valuable in that aspect on growth. So I would rather have a whole bitcoin than a gram of gold anyday! :P


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: bitkilo on December 09, 2016, 11:04:29 PM
Didn't think of it in that respect but the numbers don't lie. ;)
Bitcoin has been more valuable in that aspect on growth. So I would rather have a whole bitcoin than a gram of gold anyday! :P
The numbers do show that bitcoin has been the winner in terms of investment.
There is always going to be people that you just can't bring to bitcoin because it is not physical, even though most gold dealers don't deal in physical gold.

I feel safer with bitcoin because of the 21mil bct cap, the fed can print away to their hearts content and who really knows what the accessible gold reserves really are, probably way above what they tell us to keep the price high.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: delliaerd on December 09, 2016, 11:04:55 PM
Didn't think of it in that respect but the numbers don't lie. ;)
Bitcoin has been more valuable in that aspect on growth. So I would rather have a whole bitcoin than a gram of gold anyday! :P

Yeah you are absolutely right in the aspect on growth bitcoin is better rather than gold, and bitcoin always increase the value years by years. Bitcoin also more profitable if we see that fluctuations.
But gold isn't too bad, in aspect on trusted, gold win dude. The most of countries in the world recognize and it is stable money.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: shinratensei_ on December 09, 2016, 11:11:05 PM
Bitcoin = 21 Million supply, may bitcoin will be a rare stuff with fastest.
Gold = real physical and still get mining from a long time ago.
It was reasonable for bitcoin was being superior to gold.

 8)


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: European Central Bank on December 09, 2016, 11:21:48 PM
give it 20-30 years and then we'll see. it's a dumb comparison to make at such an early stage. the markets have zero comparison right now.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Doamader on December 09, 2016, 11:28:00 PM
Its funny the report says that gold can be sent as gift, we can pay with bitcoin for those purpose, and we can create an wallet with bitcoin and let the person choose what to do with them, exchange or buy a gift, bitcoin isnt material and its somethign that does scares investors, but the results of bitcoin not only this year, but for a long time has been always better then any other currencie.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: manbitcoinlover on December 09, 2016, 11:40:30 PM
How many threads are we going to see in this forum comparing bitcoin to gold. Gold for me is currently more trustworthy then bitcoin, bitcoin is too unstable,while the price of gold is continuing to rise. If you have gold, you don't need to worry .


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Shiroslullaby on December 09, 2016, 11:43:23 PM
Personally I think anyone with enough money would be wise to invest in some of both.
Gold as a long-term safety net.
Bitcoin as a short-term investment that has the risk to gain or lose value, but the possibility of a larger return.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: HEWRA on December 09, 2016, 11:52:16 PM
If someone wants to invest his money on a safe gain over the course of years, then he would choose the gold.
Bitcoin may bring bigger profits, however it is not as stable as gold, so the risk factor would be not good enough for huge amount of investors.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: d@nte on December 09, 2016, 11:59:07 PM
This is a question that always generates debate. I think that, at the moment, Bitcoin is a better possibility of investment, because in addition to the economic and political factors, there are also technological factors, since important network improvements can be brought to Bitcoin for the next few months.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Huge Black Woman on December 10, 2016, 12:22:50 AM
Wail I won't be wearing a big fat bitcoin chain round my neck, or bitcoin earrings.  Gold got its value, to be sure an' I'm very surprised it hasn't shot up with Mr. Trump getting elected.  We all got reason to be fearful of our money now.  But gold and silver are still up a lot for the year, just not as much as bitcoin.  Who knows.  They both good to own in my opinion.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: 20kevin20 on December 10, 2016, 12:24:30 AM
In some ways, it is. Bitcoin is virtual only. This makes our cryptocurrency impossible to be counterfeited. We're also taking part to a relatively new innovation that can change the way our world works. Because there's no physical Bitcoin, you can send or receive it at any time without ever thinking whether is it real or fake. At the same time, Bitcoin not existing in a physical form can be a bad thing: if the Internet gets shut down, we're done.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: ufaiz50 on December 10, 2016, 12:26:46 AM

Does this make Bitcoin a better long term investment than gold?


Bitcoin is a functionally advanced form of gold. Investing in Bitcoin you have a guarantee that your savings will not be lost because of the devaluation, you can be sure that the government can not get access to your personal account.
so i think invest in bitcoin better than gold


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Ryan Dugan on December 10, 2016, 02:42:52 AM
Lop who the hell would want gold over bitcoin ? Are you going to pay me with gold through the internet ? How ? Post it ? Lol
Should we go back to trading animals rather ? Lol. Pretty obvious why we use bitcoin. We dont wanna all walk around with gold and silver in our pockets.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: dihari on December 10, 2016, 02:51:54 AM
Lots of peoples is agreed bitcoin is the best way to invest their money online. It's grow significantly.
But no one can predict what will happen next to this internet money aka crypto currency.
And gold, everyone knows gold is like honey. It will be still sweet even you keep it for 20 years. And the price is never bad.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Xester on December 10, 2016, 03:03:15 AM
What makes bitcoin takes a lead from gold  is the accessibility. Bitcoin can be accessed anywhere as long as you have internet. Not only that you  can access it but you can own satoshi even in cents while you cannot have gold if you only have cents.

So in short, the two things that give bitcoin to move faster than gold aside from the limited supply are its accessibility and its retail value.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: KennyR on December 10, 2016, 03:44:11 AM
As OP quoted bitcoin is far better compared to gold with its increasing price and profit margin. In the past people considered gold for storing big values. But now people who were aware of digital currency have started using bitcoin for storing values.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 10, 2016, 04:10:17 AM
In my opinion, it does not matter what is better. What matters is will some or even all that speculative value in gold all transfer to Bitcoin? I believe yes. Bitcoin's real potential speculative value has not yet reflected in its current price.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Techie5879 on December 10, 2016, 05:29:07 AM
Yes, bitcoin is a better investment than gold. I say so as bitcoin price can change in minutes and just might bring you a very large profit, which is not possible much with gold. Also, there are easier and faster ways to invest bitcoin, like trading, and gambling. Easy to earn also. So bitcoin is better investment if you can time it right your profits will maximise.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: ged00u on December 10, 2016, 10:50:43 AM
Gold is physical while Bitcoin is digital. You can only use Bitcoin if there is Internet or 3G around and you can not send gold immediately from this area to another area. Gold has been recognized for centuries while Bitcoin have its first step on this planet. Bitcoin still need more time to be fully understood by people. However, each of them has difference advantages and disadvantages. Only users can barely know everything about them. Anyway, I suggest using Bitcoin because more people are using it right now and it definitely is our future


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: qiman on December 10, 2016, 11:42:18 AM
Bitcoin is valuable because the demand of r it is getting higher and higher but it is hard to compare the two. If there was a world war and the internet didn't exist, then bitcoin would be worthless, but gold will always be around, as it has been for thousands of years, but for now we can still find bitcoin valuable.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 10, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
The characteristics of bitcoin are objectively better than the ones in gold. Gold is a deprecated piece of metal that is just useless beyond its network effect. You could say its used in certain objects but it's not that necessary. As a store of value and as a way to move wealth it's next to no competition against bitcoin.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Red-Apple on December 10, 2016, 01:09:53 PM
investing in bitcoin is generally a lot better than any other investment in the world and it has been this way at least for some time now. but i think it is not right to compare it with gold, since bitcoin is a still new whereas gold is a lot older and also bitcoin is not just an investment like gold you can use it as a currency and that will always give it a big edge.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Brigadrouge on December 10, 2016, 01:59:57 PM
in my opinion bitcoin now better then gold with the rate of progressing value and mobility and the security of bitcoin is better then gold so you can't sell gold internationaly there will be extra fees on that and it's more secure with bitcoin to store your bitcoin then gold


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: jtipt on December 10, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
For short term sure bitcoin is best, you would gain a substantial profit within few months but for long terms like 5-10 years plus, I'm not so sure because bitcoin is very volatile, yes I expect it rise but you can never say but with gold its pretty safe choice for long term investment.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: nejibens on December 10, 2016, 02:05:39 PM
Both Gold and Bitcoin have great potential and needed worldwide indeed. But Gold isn't accessible online easily, and not accepted as payment processor , we need to convert it into cash or fiat usually, while Bitcoin is accessible for everyone with internet around the world, and in addition its supported as payment processor to buy and sell goods and services online on many marketplaces.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: sabbirshm on December 10, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
I think bitcoin investment is better than invest on gold.Since bitcoin price is increasing rapidly and hopeffully it will cross 1000$ soon.Besides, we can use our bitcoin anytime in our emergency.But we can't use gold for that.Again, holding bitcoin in cold wallet is more secure than keeping gold.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Velkro on December 10, 2016, 04:15:45 PM
Its hard to compare, its like apples and oranges.
Anyway, i prefer obviously bitcoin easier to transport, easier to spend.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Mastsetad on December 10, 2016, 04:25:26 PM
In some ways, it is. Bitcoin is virtual only. This makes our cryptocurrency impossible to be counterfeited. We're also taking part to a relatively new innovation that can change the way our world works. Because there's no physical Bitcoin, you can send or receive it at any time without ever thinking whether is it real or fake. At the same time, Bitcoin not existing in a physical form can be a bad thing: if the Internet gets shut down, we're done.

Are you talking about your own internet? Because it is never going to happen when the internet gets vanished from the world as it will be a disaster for the world and i guess that wont happen anytime, and bitcoin without having any physical shape or form can be better than gold in some ways like its price increase and some other factors.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Juggy777 on December 10, 2016, 04:28:59 PM
Bitcoin has been beating gold by a big margin so far this year. The digital currency has more than doubled in value, while the yellow metal has gained 8.73 percent; and both assets outperformed the S&P 500 and the twenty-year US Treasury bonds.

https://puu.sh/sJTqf/b9b003fd9a.png

Does this make Bitcoin a better long term investment than gold?

It’s hard to say, as past performance isn’t a guarantee for future performance, as the old adage goes in Wall Street. Besides, Bitcoin has been around for a short period of time.
 
https://puu.sh/sJToZ/cef477ca21.png

Still Bitcoins have two advantages over gold. First, they can be used as a convenient medium of payments, though for a limited number of transactions, a function gold is missing. Second, the Bitcoin supply is expected to be limited to 21 million. The supply of gold, on the other hand, is expected to increase anytime its price rises, as it provides an incentive for gold miners to mine for gold.

To be fair, gold has its own advantages, too. It can be used as an outright gift, to make jewelry, and in manufacturing of certain products.

That’s why investors shouldn’t rush to substitute the yellow metal for the digital currency in their portfolio.

~~

Original Story: http://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2016/12/09/is-bitcoin-better-than-gold/#42ccc567c143

If one person has say x amount of money, and he invests in gold and not in Bitcoin I would call him really stupid. Bitcoin is insane, gold is good but not my first choice of investment. I would prefer Bitcoin over gold any day, it's strong, price rises, easy to exchange and it's paperless, it's secure. Would love and suggest people only to go for Bitcoins.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: dmamigo on December 10, 2016, 04:49:24 PM
I think bitcoin and gold investment are now kind of same. Bitcoin is volatile for sure but so as the commodity Gold at some extent. I believe its the time to invest in Bitcoin as it is still unknown to many people, so I think it has a high chance of growing and to be in profit.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: pvaspecialist on December 10, 2016, 06:59:35 PM
Nice capture.now bitcoin investment more profitable than gold but still gold has better advantages than bitcoin.gold accept everywhere in the world but bitcoin not accept everywhere in the world.gold have physical value but bitcoin have not physical value if internet fall bitcoin will fallen down.I dont have gold,I have bitcoin so I love bitcoin  :)


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Shenzou on December 10, 2016, 07:06:43 PM
Unlike bitcoin gold is constantly being mined and turned into jewelry so there is always a demand so the gold is going to stay on the market as long as human lives . sure the bitcoin has its own value and has seen a big pick in the price in the last couple of years compared to gold but you can't compare tow different things it is like comparing food and drink you need them both, plus the bitcoin may end at one point considering how many governments are making it illegal and considering how hard it is to mine it .


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: vindicare on December 10, 2016, 08:33:25 PM
They are different in purpose if you are a virtual guy then you invest on Bitcoin as you can do so much about it because you know where to use it like online/magazine subscriptions or explicit things. About Gold you have to exchange it to fiat and risking your personal information about it the opposite when you use bitcoin.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: nara1892 on December 10, 2016, 10:12:06 PM
of course bitcoin is better for now looking at the high price. so people are most interested in something that makes them get higher profit. cmiiw.

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Does this make Bitcoin a better long term investment than gold?
probably because the unstable price makes it special, and when the price goes up, we cannot predict how high it will be


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: deadpoolx on December 10, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
I would say Bitcoin is a better investment than gold. The problem with gold is that it works only as a way of storing value. In the case of Bitcoin, in addition to being a safe and efficient way to store value, it is also an efficient way of to send and receive money over the internet. Moreover, all this occurs in a decentralized manner.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: leonair on December 10, 2016, 10:21:05 PM
Nobody can tell that which is better because Gold outlast for a century that it is always increasing value  and it is seen by the naked eye while Bitcoin itself is a new player in the game of virtual world. Time is more reliable for me, but Bitcoin really shows the fluctuation that no currency has ever did.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: angaper on December 10, 2016, 10:22:16 PM
Well, it is very relative to think that a greater performance is necessarily a better advantage,  because most bitcoiners need to be aware that the price of the bitcoin needs a more consistent stability and less volatility to make the Btc a reliable currency.

I think many companies and investors will prefer to stay aside from this ecosystem while these large price variations persist.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Yuuto on December 10, 2016, 10:58:34 PM
Well, it is very relative to think that a greater performance is necessarily a better advantage,  because most bitcoiners need to be aware that the price of the bitcoin needs a more consistent stability and less volatility to make the Btc a reliable currency.

I think many companies and investors will prefer to stay aside from this ecosystem while these large price variations persist.

Well, no. If bitcoin is a stable currency relative to the USD then that means bitcoin is essentially no different in value to the USD... And USD is a centralised currency that can be manipulated.

Bitcoin should be a store of value instead of store of USD value.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Dmitry.Vastov on December 11, 2016, 02:34:40 AM
I dont think bitcoin can be good for long term investment. It can drasticaly drops the value when big whales dump their holdings. Gold is more stable than bitcoin. So if you want growing money safely. Then gold is good for you. If you want earn more, then bitcoin is good for you. Bitcoin can really make you more profit. But for stability, gold is better. It is tested for many centuries.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: BlackPanda on December 11, 2016, 02:37:55 AM
every investment there are advantages and disadvantages. bitcoin is investing for the short term. while gold is a safe investment that requires a fairly long period of time. we should be able to choose which ones fit with expertise and our ability to invest.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: michellee on December 11, 2016, 03:14:28 AM
i think its not to compare bitcoin with gold because if we see now, bitcoin is not use by the most people, but gold, everybody know as a good investment and the price is stable for short, middle, and long term. the other reason is gold have physical form depend of bitcoin. but i agree that bitcoin is better than gold for future because the blockchain technology is design to make the transaction more simple and more low fee to do. but unfortunately, the most people is not yet to know about bitcoin and government itself is not ready to make a good statement about bitcoin so we should wait for some other time for this.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: davis196 on December 11, 2016, 07:59:42 AM
Bitcoin has been beating gold by a big margin so far this year. The digital currency has more than doubled in value, while the yellow metal has gained 8.73 percent; and both assets outperformed the S&P 500 and the twenty-year US Treasury bonds.

https://puu.sh/sJTqf/b9b003fd9a.png

Does this make Bitcoin a better long term investment than gold?

It’s hard to say, as past performance isn’t a guarantee for future performance, as the old adage goes in Wall Street. Besides, Bitcoin has been around for a short period of time.
 
https://puu.sh/sJToZ/cef477ca21.png

Still Bitcoins have two advantages over gold. First, they can be used as a convenient medium of payments, though for a limited number of transactions, a function gold is missing. Second, the Bitcoin supply is expected to be limited to 21 million. The supply of gold, on the other hand, is expected to increase anytime its price rises, as it provides an incentive for gold miners to mine for gold.

To be fair, gold has its own advantages, too. It can be used as an outright gift, to make jewelry, and in manufacturing of certain products.

That’s why investors shouldn’t rush to substitute the yellow metal for the digital currency in their portfolio.

~~

Original Story: http://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2016/12/09/is-bitcoin-better-than-gold/#42ccc567c143

For speculators and traders who want fast profits bitcoin is better than gold.

For long term investors,i`m not sure,maybe gold is the better option.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: LuanX3 on December 11, 2016, 08:34:39 AM
Great article. But it think it's not proper to compare the performance of these securities. They are not all similarly situated. Gold has been in the financial industry and the world for an extremely long time. Gold has been the main medium of exchange for thousands of years and somehow until now. Unlike bitcoin, where it has just started and not yet even a decade has passed since it's use. Gold in the 1970's had a similar increase in price. It is not a 100% per year but it was 43.14% in 1972, 66.79% in 1973, and 72.59% in 1974. And it also hit a 120.57% more than the current rise of bitcoin.

I guess, maybe, Bitcoin will also stabilize like gold in the future where it would be more trusted and adopted greatly by the world. We haven't seen the last of the 100% increases in bitcoin. We might even see a 1,000%. Who knows.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on December 11, 2016, 08:47:19 AM
This is a very good statement. the value of bitcoin prices could rise. but on some sides of each investment certainly has its advantages and disadvantages.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 11, 2016, 09:17:51 AM
Bitcoin has been beating gold by a big margin so far this year. The digital currency has more than doubled in value, while the yellow metal has gained 8.73 percent; and both assets outperformed the S&P 500 and the twenty-year US Treasury bonds.

https://puu.sh/sJTqf/b9b003fd9a.png

Does this make Bitcoin a better long term investment than gold?

It’s hard to say, as past performance isn’t a guarantee for future performance, as the old adage goes in Wall Street. Besides, Bitcoin has been around for a short period of time.
 
https://puu.sh/sJToZ/cef477ca21.png

Still Bitcoins have two advantages over gold. First, they can be used as a convenient medium of payments, though for a limited number of transactions, a function gold is missing. Second, the Bitcoin supply is expected to be limited to 21 million. The supply of gold, on the other hand, is expected to increase anytime its price rises, as it provides an incentive for gold miners to mine for gold.

To be fair, gold has its own advantages, too. It can be used as an outright gift, to make jewelry, and in manufacturing of certain products.

That’s why investors shouldn’t rush to substitute the yellow metal for the digital currency in their portfolio.

~~

Original Story: http://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2016/12/09/is-bitcoin-better-than-gold/#42ccc567c143

For speculators and traders who want fast profits bitcoin is better than gold.

For long term investors,i`m not sure,maybe gold is the better option.
Simple, Because better or not was depending on the implementation of both in some of the situation. Consider about the factor was adjusting with both. Can we use bitcoin in World of War?  ::)
The both have different advantages.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: leonair on December 11, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
every investment there are advantages and disadvantages. bitcoin is investing for the short term. while gold is a safe investment that requires a fairly long period of time. we should be able to choose which ones fit with expertise and our ability to invest.

I agree to you, bitcoin can be invested of for a long term though but you must face the risk if something happens. There is no 100% investment I guess, because if it is 100% no one will be needing a investment instead they will borrow from banks.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: calkob on December 11, 2016, 09:26:40 AM
Glad i read thuis as i was actually thinking of investing in some gold or silver this week, think i will just buy some more bitcoin now.  Thanks very much for that


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: ChrisPop on December 11, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
In my opinion we can't really compare these 2 assets as bitcoin is digital while gold is physical. Gold is the safer choice if you wanna preserve your wealth for long term,but with bitcoin you can profit on short time as it is very volatile,but also on long time as if bitcoin will be used more widely we could see a huge increase in price overtime. Anyway I recommend investing in both of them as they offer you different advantages.  ;) 8)


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on December 11, 2016, 01:38:27 PM
in the past 2 years that i have been buying and hodling and also doing some small trades with bitcoin i have made 3.5 times the amount that i could ever made with just investing in Gold so i say bitcoin is a lot better investment than gold could ever be for me.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: pereira4 on December 11, 2016, 04:42:13 PM
It's clear now that bitcoin has surpassed gold to become the ultimate safe haven on earth, but there are still tons of gold bugs that constantly say bitcoin is a scam. Of course they are old people that don't even understand bitcoin.

I think as the old generations die, the new generations will understand that bitcoin is objectively superior to gold and move all their wealth there.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: chixka000 on December 11, 2016, 04:51:51 PM
Well, you were trying to discussed the rates between bitcoin and gold. Right maybe now bitcoin price is a far much better than gold but the thing here is that bitcoin could collapsed anytime time(we hope not to tho) while on the other hand (Gold could remain or increase it's value when time passes by)


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: butcherboss on December 17, 2016, 01:49:54 PM
Can't say which one is better. In some ways Bitcoin is better and in some Gold. Bitcoin price fluctuates a lot more than gold and therefore could be a better thing for traders. Bitcoin also offers faster long term profit but its only been there for some time now compared to gold which has been here since the beginning


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: avikz on December 17, 2016, 03:01:05 PM
There are basically two sides of it. Gold is a tangible asset whereas bitcoin is not. Gold is a legal asset and bitcoin is still under confusion. So it depends up on the investor and his risk taking capability. If a person want too earn much higher return along with a significant amount of risk, then he should go for bitcoin for long term.

But if one investor, want a safe and legal way of investing and want to play safe, then gold is a better option for him. But one thing I must agree that, the return on bitcoin is way much higher that any other conventional investment. But  for safe players, gold is a better asset to invest in.   


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: mrcash02 on December 17, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
Comparing Bitcoin with Gold is like comparing Apples and Oranges because Bitcoin meant to be as currency while gold isn't.
But, if we're comparing based on price growth with USD, i would say that Bitcoin is far better than Gold because Bitcoin have lots of potential while Gold don't have much potential anymore.

Yes, I think this comparison is a bit unfair, but what investors want is profit doesn't worthing the currency or the ore and currently Bitcoin is hte best option to make profit relatively fast. But if we talk about what is more useful, I would say gold, because it really exists, it's material and people can craft items with this, Bitcoin is just a currency, money in the virtual world.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: kryptqnick on December 24, 2016, 05:24:02 PM
Bitcoin seems to be better now but maybe it is just winning the battle, not the war, you know. Yes, now the price is growing, yes, you can actually use btc to pay for something more than you can use gold. However, gold has shown its stability throuout the history, so it would be very hard for bitcoin to gain the same authority.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Pythagorass on December 24, 2016, 05:33:00 PM
Hello everyone! merry christmas! new to the game, looking forward to being a part of this big big world of cryptocurrency!  ;D


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Mr.grin on December 24, 2016, 05:46:52 PM
of the current statistics, bitcoin is really beyond gold. Well, bitcoin prices rise so quickly make investors pay attention to bitcoin. today people are more happy to see because bitcoin bitcoin have prices really high. if this continues, investors may bitcoin will surpass gold investors.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 24, 2016, 06:13:10 PM
Don't invest anything you cannot afford to lose.  Both markets, precious metals and crypto's are too small and too easy to manipulate.  Just when you need money of course that is when the bottom will have fallen out of either or both.  If you follow the precious metals markets at all you may be aware of the fraud, price fixing, and other games being played by the big boys under the nose of regulators who look the other way.  I am sure the same thing is going on here in the crypto markets.

So trying to pick which one is best is really a fools errand.  Hold some of both, but don't stake your life, retirement, or anything important to you on it.  To get an idea of what I am talking about pull up that chart for bitcoin from 2009 to present.  Now look at that giant crash that happened.  Same crazy stuff has happened in the gold markets.  Some of it based on fundamentals, some of it based on fraud and manipulation.  Either way if the timing is bad you could be in a world of hurt. 

And lets just say that state sponsored entities are not friendly to either metals or crypto.  They allow them to exist right now.  One day they may not allow them to exist.  Again don't put all your eggs in either one of these baskets.  Be aware of ALL the risks, not just the ones obvious today.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: calkob on December 24, 2016, 06:20:48 PM
I think that going forward bitcoin is one of if not the best investment around, not so sure about a short term investment.  Long term i just cannot see any fundamental weaknesses.  bar some genius seeing a problem everyone else has missed i can see bitcoin at $10000 in 5 years.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: iram3130 on December 24, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
107+% is better than anything in the world.. hoping to touch 1000+$ soon.. I don't think it will stay there for long time, again will get stabilized n gets to normal rate soon..


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: deadpoolx on December 24, 2016, 07:41:42 PM
I think that going forward bitcoin is one of if not the best investment around, not so sure about a short term investment.  Long term i just cannot see any fundamental weaknesses.  bar some genius seeing a problem everyone else has missed i can see bitcoin at $10000 in 5 years.
In the long run I see a lot of potential, but some problems need to be solved for Bitcoin to be adopted by a large number of people, without major problems. One of the biggest problems is probably the problem of scalability. As far as I know, Segwit and Flextrans are some of the proposed solutions, but there is still no consensus on which is the best.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 24, 2016, 08:24:53 PM
I think that going forward bitcoin is one of if not the best investment around, not so sure about a short term investment.  Long term i just cannot see any fundamental weaknesses.  bar some genius seeing a problem everyone else has missed i can see bitcoin at $10000 in 5 years.
In the long run I see a lot of potential, but some problems need to be solved for Bitcoin to be adopted by a large number of people, without major problems. One of the biggest problems is probably the problem of scalability. As far as I know, Segwit and Flextrans are some of the proposed solutions, but there is still no consensus on which is the best.

Some of these suggestions could seriously hurt BTC.  Too much controversy and you could get a repeat of ETH with a fork causing major fracturing.  SegWit if I understand it could move transactions off of the network causing damage to miners and the network.  So it is going to be a hard sell to get the 95% to get SegWit.  Granted something does need to happen to fix the transaction problems and scale.  But so far the suggestions appear questionable.   

Then throw in another Mt Gox, or some sort of heavy handed regulatory moves and everything could head south FAST.  The point being is that it doesn't take much to upset the apple cart here. 

I realize when the price goes up like it has recently EVERYONE gets mega bullish.  I am with you, it is exciting to see BTC and other crypto's taking off and flying.  However as fast is it comes it can also go...  In that regard it is appropriate to compare BTC to gold because the market responds just as violently there as well. 

If you get the timing right and know went to get into and out of the market you can probably make some money.  However that is a tall order.  Also what is your time horizon.  Are you talking 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 50 years?  Each time horizon requires different strategies to ensure you have access to your funds when you need them.   


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: MingLee on December 24, 2016, 08:35:34 PM
I think that going forward bitcoin is one of if not the best investment around, not so sure about a short term investment.  Long term i just cannot see any fundamental weaknesses.  bar some genius seeing a problem everyone else has missed i can see bitcoin at $10000 in 5 years.
In the long run I see a lot of potential, but some problems need to be solved for Bitcoin to be adopted by a large number of people, without major problems. One of the biggest problems is probably the problem of scalability. As far as I know, Segwit and Flextrans are some of the proposed solutions, but there is still no consensus on which is the best.
While the issue of scailability definitely has to be fixed sometime soon, there is no real way to get a definite consensus on what has to be changed to the the controlling nature all of the current dev systems provide. Segwit is ok and offers one solution to the issue, but is screws up the dev structure we have right now.

Nothing is confirmed as best right now. It's all subjective.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: mummybtc on December 24, 2016, 09:29:35 PM
Yes, because their is solid fact to back the claim, Gold price is being manipulated by Central banks, although BTC price manipulation too exit but it is follow some technical chart but Gold price don't


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: Rahar02 on December 24, 2016, 10:14:47 PM
This is such a stupid thing to compare bitcoin to. I don't understand why these big wonderful news idiots still don't realize it. It's like comparing a start up tech company stock to a wheat company's stock. It's so random wtf.

Why you state such an insult opinion without any solid statement, I mean, we are discussing about long term investment here. Even if we compare gold and land/estate, it's all right to do as both of it has high value too.
I'm still wondering which one is better for the long hoardings that lead to conclusion, better to have both of them whether gold and bitcoin, even though I prefer to have more bitcoin due to highly increasing price.
More than 100% in this year, what an amazing increases.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: nara1892 on December 24, 2016, 11:55:41 PM
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Still Bitcoins have two advantages over gold. First, they can be used as a convenient medium of payments, though for a limited number of transactions, a function gold is missing. Second, the Bitcoin supply is expected to be limited to 21 million. The supply of gold, on the other hand, is expected to increase anytime its price rises, as it provides an incentive for gold miners to mine for gold.

so the conclusion is both bitcoin and gold is better. the things have their own advantages and disadvantages. it is difficult to say bitcoin is better that gold because bitcoin also has weakness like it is limited to 21 million although we can get it "easily", and the opposite.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: energycr on December 25, 2016, 01:05:18 AM
It is looking better than gold as it stands for now. But we won't know for sure until it reaches more per ounce that gold costs now would we? :-\
Wait until it reaches $1200 again then we can talk about if it really is better than gold because when it reaches the $1400 then it very much well be at that point in time. ;)


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: shinratensei_ on December 25, 2016, 02:11:41 AM
Yes, because their is solid fact to back the claim, Gold price is being manipulated by Central banks, although BTC price manipulation too exit but it is follow some technical chart but Gold price don't
You're right. The central bank is the biggest gold owner. It's mean the gold was controlling by them  ;D
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timtreadgold/2016/04/01/central-banks-follow-warren-buffetts-advice-when-it-comes-to-gold-buying-when-others-are-fearful/#560aa70b6357
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The second reason is that central banks have a unique position in the gold market, and have an ability to influence investor sentiment, for better and for worse.

That power lies in the fact that the central banks are the biggest owners of gold and when the biggest owner of anything, be it property or shares in a big company, their actions influence the market.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: aso118 on December 25, 2016, 04:55:21 AM
It is looking better than gold as it stands for now. But we won't know for sure until it reaches more per ounce that gold costs now would we? :-\
Wait until it reaches $1200 again then we can talk about if it really is better than gold because when it reaches the $1400 then it very much well be at that point in time. ;)

I see no reason why we should be focusing on the relation between price of bitcoin and 1 ounce of gold. In many countries, gold is measured in different units and the price/ounce doesn't really make sense.
What really matters is the "trust" that people have in the asset. It will be difficult for Bitcoin to attain the same kind of trust, as gold has been around for thousands of years.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: valley365 on December 25, 2016, 05:02:41 AM
Bitcoin beat gold this year, does no mean it is better than gold. Gold has beat bitcoin in other years. Gold and bitcoin belong to the same internal value category and will shine during turmoils.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: dfox101 on December 25, 2016, 05:29:06 AM
Bitcoin beat gold this year, does no mean it is better than gold. Gold has beat bitcoin in other years. Gold and bitcoin belong to the same internal value category and will shine during turmoils.

Agree, but with more and more people discover bitcoin, bitcoin tends to increase in its value faster than gold, at least these years. Both are excellent hedge against inflation and preservation of the value.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: energycr on December 25, 2016, 02:27:58 PM
It is looking better than gold as it stands for now. But we won't know for sure until it reaches more per ounce that gold costs now would we? :-\
Wait until it reaches $1200 again then we can talk about if it really is better than gold because when it reaches the $1400 then it very much well be at that point in time. ;)

I see no reason why we should be focusing on the relation between price of bitcoin and 1 ounce of gold. In many countries, gold is measured in different units and the price/ounce doesn't really make sense.
What really matters is the "trust" that people have in the asset. It will be difficult for Bitcoin to attain the same kind of trust, as gold has been around for thousands of years.
Then why are articles like this one comparing the two if there is no correlation between the two. Huh?!

http://www.livebitcoinnews.com/can-bitcoins-price-surpass-value-one-gold-ounce/

I have trust in a physical thing of value. So I would store my bitcoin on some sort of hardware wallet just for that extra ease of mind that I actually have something in my hands to amount for what I do indeed have on hand of bitcoin.
That is just me and can be different for anyone else. We are individualistic beings afterall! ;D


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: lumeire on December 25, 2016, 03:24:05 PM
Bitcoin beat gold this year, does no mean it is better than gold. Gold has beat bitcoin in other years. Gold and bitcoin belong to the same internal value category and will shine during turmoils.

BTCBTCBTC is BTCBTCBTC and gold is gold. They're way to different from each other and each has its own pros and cons. Instead of focusing which is better, why not get your portfolio to have both. Spreads the risk IMO.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: dunfida on December 25, 2016, 03:27:41 PM
Bitcoin beat gold this year, does no mean it is better than gold. Gold has beat bitcoin in other years. Gold and bitcoin belong to the same internal value category and will shine during turmoils.

BTCBTCBTC is BTCBTCBTC and gold is gold. They're way to different from each other and each has its own pros and cons. Instead of focusing which is better, why not get your portfolio to have both. Spreads the risk IMO.
Very true and we cant really compare a currency and a precious metal they are really different from each other.If i do really have the money to invest i would definitely choose these two things because i could really see the potential profits specially for long term.


Title: Re: [FORBES] Is Bitcoin Better Than Gold?
Post by: RealBitcoin on December 25, 2016, 04:06:58 PM
Of course it's better, just look at the shit that is happening in India.

Gold will always be stolen from people, you just cant avoid that.

Bitcoin atleast has some kind of protection against property rights violations, that are in many cases unconstitutional, but it's not like most people give a damn about constitutionality.

The Human Rights declarations are just a sham, private property is only private if it's private (like a private key)