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Title: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: beckspace on June 15, 2011, 03:24:36 AM
[repost from Newbie section]
[I noticed that my previous post could have a better title, sorry for reposting.]

If 0.00000001 Bitcoin = 1 dollar cent, 1 Bitcoin = 1 million dollars!
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17102.0


But, by the time it will be accomplished, will the dollars retain the same value? I mean, One house that today costs 1.000.000 dollars will cost the same?

Dollars and others currencies may suffer from massive inflation. And it's not like some early adopters will become super-wealthy trillionaires. Well, fuck, I am trillionaire in Zimbabwe's currency!


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: mellowhead on June 15, 2011, 03:31:36 AM
petition to make it so that newbies can't make threads until 15 posts starts here
Motion seconded


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: beckspace on June 15, 2011, 03:34:17 AM
Sorry for that, I think it was a good question and I want an answer. I don't even read the newbie section.


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: mellowhead on June 15, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
It wasn't answered there either


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: imperi on June 15, 2011, 03:51:23 AM
How did a thread like this infiltrate into Bitcoin Discussion? I thought they were confined to newbie area?


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: beckspace on June 15, 2011, 04:02:55 AM
Ok, maybe I exaggerate the numbers. I exaggerate the years, and I messed up with this thread, [and another]. I'm a totally newbie at forums, And 15 posts will not correct me.

I'll try to ask again with more possible numbers.

In 4-5 years, if 0.00000001 Bitcoin equals 1 cent, 1 Bitcoin will have a value of 1 million dollars.

In 4-5 years, those who have 100 Bitcoins will have 100 millions dollars.

In 4-5 years, will dollar retain the same value? Perhaps in 5 years, 100 million dollars will not have the power to buy the same mansion that
you've been expecting.

If all that revolutionary things happens, of course.


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: mellowhead on June 15, 2011, 04:09:11 AM
A) I suggest this thread be moved - here: http://www.mathgoodies.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3 (http://www.mathgoodies.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3)

B) In 5 years I expect to be able to afford pretty much the same mansion for...

ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!!!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wyuSKo_sdaw/S6vYsr7gu2I/AAAAAAAAAQA/bPLlvIBpKBs/s1600/dr_evil_one_million_dollars.jpg


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: tymothy on June 15, 2011, 04:18:37 AM
[repost from Newbie section]
[I noticed that my previous post could have a better title, sorry for reposting.]

If 0.00000001 Bitcoin = 1 dollar cent, 1 Bitcoin = 1 million dollars!
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17102.0


But, by the time it will be accomplished, will the dollars retain the same value? I mean, One house that today costs 1.000.000 dollars will cost the same?

Dollars and others currencies may suffer from massive inflation. And it's not like some early adopters will become super-wealthy trillionaires. Well, fuck, I am trillionaire in Zimbabwe's currency!

If Bitcoins appreciate faster against the dollar than the dollar inflates in terms of products and goods, then yes. An important question is whether or not such an of bitcoin itself to one million USDs could destabilize the dollar and weaken the dollar's purchasing power.


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: beckspace on June 15, 2011, 04:30:26 AM
An important question is whether or not such an of bitcoin itself to one million USDs could destabilize the dollar and weaken the dollar's purchasing power.

Good question, I think it will be relative to all other national currencies inflation combined, because Bitcoin it's an international currency. Like if Bitcoin just replaces dollars then yes, dollars will lose value, but Bitcoins may replace Pounds, Yens, Euros, Reals etc. then I think the loss will be dissipated.



Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: mellowhead on June 15, 2011, 04:38:55 AM
Basic math dictates: the bitcoin system would have to absorb about 8.7% of the ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY in one day to be worth one million USD per bitcoin.

Likelihood of that happening: It's not


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: Litt on June 16, 2011, 06:30:36 PM
Basic math dictates: the bitcoin system would have to absorb about 8.7% of the ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY in one day to be worth one million USD per bitcoin.

Likelihood of that happening: It's not

8.7%? that seems like a small number to me and completely feasible..


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: mellowhead on June 16, 2011, 06:34:27 PM
Basic math dictates: the bitcoin system would have to absorb about 8.7% of the ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY in one day to be worth one million USD per bitcoin.

Likelihood of that happening: It's not

8.7%? that seems like a small number to me and completely feasible..

8.7% is about (very approximate) 6.5 Trillion dollars. Not likely to happen in just a matter of days. And that dollar amount goes up every day, as the number of bitcoins in existence increases every day.


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: Litt on June 16, 2011, 07:37:04 PM
Basic math dictates: the bitcoin system would have to absorb about 8.7% of the ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY in one day to be worth one million USD per bitcoin.

Likelihood of that happening: It's not

8.7%? that seems like a small number to me and completely feasible..

8.7% is about (very approximate) 6.5 Trillion dollars. Not likely to happen in just a matter of days. And that dollar amount goes up every day, as the number of bitcoins in existence increases every day.

I stand by my statement.


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: mellowhead on June 16, 2011, 07:44:16 PM
And who is going to invest 6.5 Trillion USD into bitcoin in the next few days?


Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: borgfish on June 16, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
call me a noob but i still cant think of a p2p sys where any participant needs all blocks loaded and any block has all the recent transactions with like 50 mio transactions per day (because its a success and any one is online shopping with it ;o)



Title: Re: Today's 1.000.000 dollars = 2015's 1.000.000.000.000 dollars?
Post by: kokjo on June 16, 2011, 08:20:38 PM
call me a noob but i still cant think of a p2p sys where any participant needs all blocks loaded and any block has all the recent transactions with like 50 mio transactions per day (because its a success and any one is online shopping with it ;o)


a block is only 80 bytes long.
its of no concern see: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability