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Title: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 13, 2016, 12:22:14 AM
Date: Saturday, February 11th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 12:00 BCT / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Other/ufc208.jpg

Main Card (PPV)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Holly Holm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Holm) (10-2) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/netherlands.gif Germaine de Randamie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germaine_de_Randamie) (6-3) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/brazil.gif Anderson Silva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Silva) (33-8) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Derek Brunson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Brunson) (16-4) (Middleweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/brazil.gif Ronaldo Souza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_Souza) (23-4) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Tim Boetsch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Boetsch) (20-10) (Middleweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/brazil.gif Glover Teixeira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glover_Teixeira) (25-5) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Jared Cannonier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Cannonier) (9-1) (Light Heavyweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Dustin Poirier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Poirier) (20-5) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Jim Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Miller_(fighter)) (28-8) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/jamaica.gif Randy Brown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Brown_(fighter)) (9-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Belal Muhammad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belal_Muhammad_(fighter)) (10-2) (Welterweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/brazil.gif Wilson Reis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_Reis) (21-6) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/japan.gif Ulka Sasaki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulka_Sasaki) (19-3-2) (Flyweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Nik Lentz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nik_Lentz) (27-7-2) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/russia.gif Islam Makhachev (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_Makhachev) (13-1) (Lightweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Ian McCall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_McCall_(fighter)) (13-5-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Jarred Brooks (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jarred-Brooks-174665) (12-0) (Flyweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

TBA vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/poland.gif Marcin Tybura (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Marcin-Tybura-86928) (14-2) (Heavyweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Ryan LaFlare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_LaFlare) (12-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/brazil.gif Roan Carneiro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roan_Carneiro) (21-10) (Welterweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Phillipe Nover (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillipe_Nover) (11-7-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Rick Glenn (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Rick-Glenn-20171) (18-4-1) (Featherweight)

Other

- Neil Seery pulled out of his fight against Ian McCall on January 29 due to the passing of his mother-in-law. Seery was replaced by promotional newcomer Jarred Brooks on January 30.

- George Sullivan was scheduled to face Randy Brown at the event. However on January 26, Sullivan was pulled from the card after being notified by USADA of a potential anti-doping violation stemming from an out-of-competition sample collected earlier this year. Belal Muhammad was chosen as his replacement on February 4.

- Luis Henrique was expected to face Marcin Tybura, but pulled out on February 1. A search is currently underway for a replacement.

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Title: Re: UFC 208: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: maku on December 13, 2016, 12:39:32 AM
When I look at the statistics then Aldo is more entitled to win this fight: Aldo 26-2 vs. Holloway 19-4

Also Holloway is fishing from a loser position after his lost his last fight vs Pettis.

Aldo won his last fight vs McGregor - it might be a huge confidence boost for him.

Conclusion: Jose Aldo will be a winner here.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Dmitry.Vastov on December 13, 2016, 12:54:41 AM
Aldo has a slightly edge to this fight against Halloway. Than only thing that bothers me is Aldo's jaw. Its very fragile like a jar. Just one big shot at the jaw and its all over. For the light heavy weight. My bet is to Glover Texeira. For heavyweight, im gonna go for Luis Henrique. And Roan Carneiro for the welterweights.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 13, 2016, 01:11:46 AM
When I look at the statistics then Aldo is more entitled to win this fight: Aldo 26-2 vs. Holloway 19-4

Also Holloway is fishing from a loser position after his lost his last fight vs Pettis.

Aldo won his last fight vs McGregor - it might be a huge confidence boost for him.

Conclusion: Jose Aldo will be a winner here.

Are those results you posted come from the Bizzaro UFC division? You got them in reverse. If you really are not a fan of the UFC please refrain from posting the wrong information and avoid spamming the thread.

This is expected from Aldo. He will be wanting to fight again and be in the lime light. I can see him calling out Conor after that fight assuming he won it. I also speculate that Bisping will also defend his belt against Yoel Romero for the co main event.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 15, 2016, 04:25:38 AM
Just a little update.  It now looks like the main event for 208 is Holly Holm vs De Randamie for the inaugural Women's FW Championship.  The big question:  Where's Cyborg in all this?


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: babyjesusftw1 on December 15, 2016, 05:33:36 AM
Umm maku, you're mistaken about the Holloway fight. Holloway won by TKO in the third round. However, I still think Aldo is the better fighter. He haw 26 wins and only 2 losses for a reason. Holloway won't be ready for Aldo so soon after a tough fight against Pettis. Aldo takes this by TKO/submission.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 19, 2016, 11:37:26 PM
The UFC should have waited for the legendary Cyborg to fight for the inaugural 145 pound belt and i am really surprised by the lack of support for Cyborg by the UFC new owners and Dana White especially. Cyborg is the pound for pound best female fighter in the world and she should have been the first UFC 145 pound champion,instead they have other plans. Holm lost her last two matches and lets hope the best fighter wins.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Clement Kaliyar on December 20, 2016, 12:02:20 AM
Aldo has a slightly edge to this fight against Halloway. Than only thing that bothers me is Aldo's jaw. Its very fragile like a jar. Just one big shot at the jaw and its all over. For the light heavy weight. My bet is to Glover Texeira. For heavyweight, im gonna go for Luis Henrique. And Roan Carneiro for the welterweights.
Aldo is a really good fighter and Holloway is on a ten fight winning streak and is high on confidence and you really cannot count out Jose Aldo.Connor Mcgregor connected with a precise shot and broke him  but that does not mean that he is fragile. He is one of the toughest fighter in the division and remember he was undefeated for over ten years before losing to Connor.I will wage my bet on Aldo in this match.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 20, 2016, 03:54:24 AM
The UFC should have waited for the legendary Cyborg to fight for the inaugural 145 pound belt and i am really surprised by the lack of support for Cyborg by the UFC new owners and Dana White especially. Cyborg is the pound for pound best female fighter in the world and she should have been the first UFC 145 pound champion,instead they have other plans. Holm lost her last two matches and lets hope the best fighter wins.

I think I know where this is all going, and it doesn't need Cyborg.  If true, then I wanna say that Dana White is a genius.  This might be the most likely scenario that he wants to happen:  

Rousey wins her title back against Nunes at BW.  Then Holm wins the inaugural FW title fight making her a champ there.  Then have those two fight again at either BW or FW, most likely at BW and then one of them get to be the first woman who holds two UFC titles.

That will be one mega fight that could out sell McGregor's selling record.  

What do you think?  Plausible?


Title: Re: UFC 208: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Harry Callahan on December 20, 2016, 06:11:59 AM
When I look at the statistics then Aldo is more entitled to win this fight: Aldo 26-2 vs. Holloway 19-4
Also Holloway is fishing from a loser position after his lost his last fight vs Pettis.
Aldo won his last fight vs McGregor - it might be a huge confidence boost for him.
Conclusion: Jose Aldo will be a winner here.
Do you even follow the sport ??? or is this a troll,Holloway is on a record breaking winning streak both Holloway and Jose Aldo faced Mcgregor and on both occasions Mcgregor was the winning and the only difference is Holloway took Mcgregor to a decision and never lost again for ten straight fights while Aldo was knocked out in record breaking time.I do like Aldo and i do believe he will be the champion again but this is a really interesting fight for the fans.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 23, 2016, 01:58:26 AM
The UFC should have waited for the legendary Cyborg to fight for the inaugural 145 pound belt and i am really surprised by the lack of support for Cyborg by the UFC new owners and Dana White especially. Cyborg is the pound for pound best female fighter in the world and she should have been the first UFC 145 pound champion,instead they have other plans. Holm lost her last two matches and lets hope the best fighter wins.

Maybe the reason why the UFC decided not to have Cyborg in the event was because she was flagged in an anti doping violation by the USADA. I will not be very surprised if she is proven to use drugs and steroids to enhance for performance. Simply looking at her makes me think she is full of testosterone injected in her. Or maybe "him".


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 27, 2016, 03:29:48 AM
So far this is what I found in the net for the fight card for UFC 208

Holly Holm vs. Germaine de Randamie (Women's Featherweight)
Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight)
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      
Ian McCall vs. Neil Seery (Flyweight)   
Nik Lentz vs. Islam Makhachev (Lightweight)   
George Sullivan   vs. Randy Brown   (Welterweight)      
Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique (Heavyweight)
Wilson Reis vs. Ulka Sasaki (Flyweight)

Not much talk about this fight, all are about Rhonda's return to the octagon at UFC 207 and they keep on pushing that fight and making a hype out of it while Holly Holm is left with out PR for this event. Dana White is banking again on Rhonda Rousey's popularity but they have to think about the other UFC events.

I'll go for Holly Holm for this one and Travis Browne.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 27, 2016, 05:13:05 AM
So far this is what I found in the net for the fight card for UFC 208

Holly Holm vs. Germaine de Randamie (Women's Featherweight)
Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight)
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      
Ian McCall vs. Neil Seery (Flyweight)   
Nik Lentz vs. Islam Makhachev (Lightweight)   
George Sullivan   vs. Randy Brown   (Welterweight)      
Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique (Heavyweight)
Wilson Reis vs. Ulka Sasaki (Flyweight)

Not much talk about this fight, all are about Rhonda's return to the octagon at UFC 207 and they keep on pushing that fight and making a hype out of it while Holly Holm is left with out PR for this event. Dana White is banking again on Rhonda Rousey's popularity but they have to think about the other UFC events.

I'll go for Holly Holm for this one and Travis Browne.

Thanks for posting the roster of the event.  I'll put it in the OP if you don't mind.  Now just to see a super mega fight of Conor McGregor proportions, I would like Rousey to win vs Nunes at BW and then Holm to win at 208 bagging the FW Women's title.  These two fighers will surely meet again and fight in the future as champions in their own right.



Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: BlockEye on December 28, 2016, 01:00:03 AM
So far this is what I found in the net for the fight card for UFC 208

Holly Holm vs. Germaine de Randamie (Women's Featherweight)
Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight)
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      
Ian McCall vs. Neil Seery (Flyweight)   
Nik Lentz vs. Islam Makhachev (Lightweight)   
George Sullivan   vs. Randy Brown   (Welterweight)      
Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique (Heavyweight)
Wilson Reis vs. Ulka Sasaki (Flyweight)

Not much talk about this fight, all are about Rhonda's return to the octagon at UFC 207 and they keep on pushing that fight and making a hype out of it while Holly Holm is left with out PR for this event. Dana White is banking again on Rhonda Rousey's popularity but they have to think about the other UFC events.

I'll go for Holly Holm for this one and Travis Browne.

Thanks for posting the roster of the event.  I'll put it in the OP if you don't mind.  Now just to see a super mega fight of Conor McGregor proportions, I would like Rousey to win vs Nunes at BW and then Holm to win at 208 bagging the FW Women's title.  These two fighers will surely meet again and fight in the future as champions in their own right.



Holm and Rousey fight again will happened soon no matter what is the result of their respective match. Rousey is very thirst to do a rematch with her. But i will bet again on holm because he have a huge odds besides i like her fighting style. Only the build of the body of rousey is great.  ;D


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 28, 2016, 02:15:17 AM
@BlockEye. I do not think so. There is already a lot at stake if Ronda and Holly will fight again. Ronda will not fight unless there is some incentive for her to do so like winning a UFC championship belt because she knows Holly has her number. Why risk it all again for nothing but pride. Another loss from Holly will be devastating for Ronda. So only a big incentive like money or the glory of winning the belt might make her risk it.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 28, 2016, 03:23:35 AM
@BlockEye. I do not think so. There is already a lot at stake if Ronda and Holly will fight again. Ronda will not fight unless there is some incentive for her to do so like winning a UFC championship belt because she knows Holly has her number. Why risk it all again for nothing but pride. Another loss from Holly will be devastating for Ronda. So only a big incentive like money or the glory of winning the belt might make her risk it.
It might happen but it will depend on the outcome of UFC 207. If Rhonda wins her fight in a very convincing way, expect that she will call out all those who are in line to beat the current champion. Rhonda was out for a year and the character that she always want to show to the fans of UFC is she is ready, she is angry and want's to avenge her loss but that's what they did when Tate was still around until recently she said "I don't want to fight, I don't have it in me anymore".


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 28, 2016, 03:36:39 AM
@BlockEye. I do not think so. There is already a lot at stake if Ronda and Holly will fight again. Ronda will not fight unless there is some incentive for her to do so like winning a UFC championship belt because she knows Holly has her number. Why risk it all again for nothing but pride. Another loss from Holly will be devastating for Ronda. So only a big incentive like money or the glory of winning the belt might make her risk it.
It might happen but it will depend on the outcome of UFC 207. If Rhonda wins her fight in a very convincing way, expect that she will call out all those who are in line to beat the current champion. Rhonda was out for a year and the character that she always want to show to the fans of UFC is she is ready, she is angry and want's to avenge her loss but that's what they did when Tate was still around until recently she said "I don't want to fight, I don't have it in me anymore".

Whether she wins convincingly or if it's really close it won't matter.  Rousey is against Nunes here and fighting her isn't exactly a walk in the park.  I think she's even harder to beat than Holly Holm imho.  And even if she wins convincingly, I think we're seeing a new Rousey from now on.  She'll be more humble and a lot wiser.  So I don't expect her calling out Holm or others just to look tough.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on January 16, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
Not much talk about this fight, all are about Rhonda's return to the octagon at UFC 207 and they keep on pushing that fight and making a hype out of it while Holly Holm is left with out PR for this event. Dana White is banking again on Rhonda Rousey's popularity but they have to think about the other UFC events.

I'll go for Holly Holm for this one and Travis Browne.
Holly Holm can win the title and sure my bet is on her even though she is on a losing streak i think she can very well defeat De Randamie ,what ever may be the case when Cyborg returns this belt belongs to her as she is the real champ in the 145 pound category and i do not think anyone could challenge her on the feet as well as on the ground.Hope see comes back a stays natural 


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on January 17, 2017, 05:12:08 AM
How could I have missed this piece of news...  This is the best thing that happened for UFC 208.  Without it I don't think I'll make an effort and waste my money to get PPV just to watch it.  Anderson Silva being in the event makes a huge improvement in the main card.

Anderson Silva vs. Derek Brunson set for UFC 208 in Brooklyn
http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/1/13/14270364/anderson-silva-vs-derek-brunson-set-for-ufc-208-in-brooklyn

Can't wait to see the legend fight in the octagon again.

https://i.imgur.com/Aw2TCMd.jpg


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Marma Kalari on January 17, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
Good to see a good fight card,but i thought Aldo will be facing Max Holloway in this card, what happened to that fight as Holloway was teasing Aldo after his intern title. It will be a heavy card if that match was scheduled and now the main card will be a title belt featuring Holly Holmes but i am not sure who De Randamie is and i have not seen her matches to take sides on who will be winning the belt.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 17, 2017, 07:06:07 PM
Good to see a good fight card,but i thought Aldo will be facing Max Holloway in this card, what happened to that fight as Holloway was teasing Aldo after his intern title. It will be a heavy card if that match was scheduled and now the main card will be a title belt featuring Holly Holmes but i am not sure who De Randamie is and i have not seen her matches to take sides on who will be winning the belt.
Max Holloway is injured and so is the reason he is not featured in this fight card.If you are looking for who Germaine De Randamie is she is a kick boxing champion with an undefeated record and with Cyborg not featuring in this title bout,Germaine De Randamie is a worthy contender to Holly Holmes ,so this match will be a striker vs striker match and its not an easy match for Holly Holmes.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Clement Kaliyar on January 20, 2017, 11:57:33 PM
Good to see a new division coming up for the ladies but i am not sure there are any worthy contenders for the 145 division belt other than Cris Cyborg who was recently flagged by USADA and i am sure the UFC is building this division to promote Cyborg because the Ronda Rousey era is over and Cyborg is the real tough fighter who they can promote as she has a huge fan following .Both Holm and Randamie are strikers and it will be an interesting match.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 21, 2017, 01:34:21 AM
@Clement Kaliyar. Think of it as something like an expansion of the offerings of the UFC's entertainment products. This will surely get the interest of the bigger and heavier women UFC fans. For the fight I am betting on the underdog. This will be so unpredictable it will not matter who you bet on. I am going for the one with a bigger payout.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on January 21, 2017, 10:24:34 PM
@Clement Kaliyar. Think of it as something like an expansion of the offerings of the UFC's entertainment products. This will surely get the interest of the bigger and heavier women UFC fans. For the fight I am betting on the underdog. This will be so unpredictable it will not matter who you bet on. I am going for the one with a bigger payout.
As far as the bookmakers there is no heavy underdog in this fight as both are pretty good strikers .Germaine de Randamie who is an experienced kick boxer while Holly Holmes is a boxer and a kick boxer both are 135 pound fighter i guess elevated to 145 pound to build this division so clearly no one has the advantage over another.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 23, 2017, 01:26:45 AM
@eaLiTy. Whatever the odds I will bet for the one that will pay out more. Maybe the reason why the sportsbooks opened the betting with odds close to 50-50 is because they might be thinking that the fight is unpredictable. I will expect the odds to change as we get closer to the day of the fight. Who do you think the underdog will be?


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on January 27, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
Guess who has been training with Anderson Silva in preparation of the latter's fight for UFC 208?  It's none other than Jacare Souza!  I think Jacare should be given a chance for the MW title.  He's not getting any younger and at least give him his shot.  I'm pretty sure he can take Bisping, Luke Rockhold and Yoel Romero.  Sometimes I think the UFC avoids giving some fighters a title shot because they're not marketable enough.

Anderson Silva Trains With 'Jacare' Souza Ahead of UFC 208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhegJHOH9gY


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on January 27, 2017, 09:43:58 AM
Quick Leans
De Randamie - No reason for her being the underdog, she is as good or a better striker to Holm. Im on Randamie for sure, Holm does well against people with lesser striking than her, not the other way around.

Lewis over Travis Browne -What is up with Travis, I think he may have changed camps this time, is that enough to get the old Travis back with crazy footwork? He is going to need it vs Lewis and Browne has a questionable chin. Leaning Lewis.

Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier - Glover please retire for your health

Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique - Doesnt go the distance


These are just quick leans, not offical picks ill come back later with picks.






Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Pattberry on January 27, 2017, 11:41:40 PM
Quick Leans
De Randamie - No reason for her being the underdog, she is as good or a better striker to Holm. Im on Randamie for sure, Holm does well against people with lesser striking than her, not the other way around.
Lewis over Travis Browne -What is up with Travis, I think he may have changed camps this time, is that enough to get the old Travis back with crazy footwork? He is going to need it vs Lewis and Browne has a questionable chin. Leaning Lewis.
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier - Glover please retire for your health
Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique - Doesnt go the distance
De Randamie and Holly Holmes is a tough fight to choose but i think Homes can win this one and be the 145 pound champion.
Travis Browne has switched camps and it is a good progress from his side,from a future title holder when he set foot inside the octagon his performance has gone down with the coaching of Edmond Tarverdyan  :D
Glover Teixeira is a good fighter he just fought the best in the division and he will be back for sure.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Dmitry.Vastov on January 28, 2017, 07:01:42 AM
I've never see de Randamie fight. But she seems really strong. Holms is good at distance fighting. She should keep it that way. Maybe she can win this fight. But i will bet for de Randamie this time. My other bets are:

Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   --> Lewis
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   --> Cannonier
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight) --> Poirier
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      --> Can euro
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      --> Felder


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on January 29, 2017, 11:05:17 PM
I've never see de Randamie fight. But she seems really strong. Holms is good at distance fighting. She should keep it that way. Maybe she can win this fight. But i will bet for de Randamie this time. My other bets are:

Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   --> Lewis
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   --> Cannonier
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight) --> Poirier
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      --> Can euro
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      --> Felder

Travis Browne has left his old camp and i would think that he needs to start focusing on bringing back his old fight techniques in order to win matches against elite level fighters,The black beast Lewis is a tough fighter but he has endurance issues and never posed a challenge to top fighters. Glover Teixeira will win the match as i am not sure who Jared is and have never seen him fight.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 30, 2017, 01:05:50 AM
@HaXX0R1337. Travis Browne is not a top 3 fighter judging from his fight history. He can jump from camp to camp to make himself a better fighter but that will do him no good in the UFC. The skill level is very high in MMA these days and all he can hope for is to become a gate keeper in the heavy weight division or maybe can get lucky like Michael Bisping.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Kemarit on January 30, 2017, 11:34:34 AM
@HaXX0R1337. Travis Browne is not a top 3 fighter judging from his fight history. He can jump from camp to camp to make himself a better fighter but that will do him no good in the UFC. The skill level is very high in MMA these days and all he can hope for is to become a gate keeper in the heavy weight division or maybe can get lucky like Michael Bisping.

IMHO, Travis Browne can be a legit heavyweight contender still. His problem is more of a mental thing.  I still remember his KO's win over Barnett, Gonzaga and Overeem, wicked elbows!!!. I hope he can still recover his old form and win against Lewis so that he can still prove that he still has some in his tank and a win would obviously put his name in the title contention for the HW title in the future.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 31, 2017, 01:14:09 AM
@HaXX0R1337. Travis Browne is not a top 3 fighter judging from his fight history. He can jump from camp to camp to make himself a better fighter but that will do him no good in the UFC. The skill level is very high in MMA these days and all he can hope for is to become a gate keeper in the heavy weight division or maybe can get lucky like Michael Bisping.

IMHO, Travis Browne can be a legit heavyweight contender still. His problem is more of a mental thing.  I still remember his KO's win over Barnett, Gonzaga and Overeem, wicked elbows!!!. I hope he can still recover his old form and win against Lewis so that he can still prove that he still has some in his tank and a win would obviously put his name in the title contention for the HW title in the future.
Travis Browne was considered the best upcoming heavyweight when he came to the UFC and he was a legit contender for the belt while he was training under Jackson's and was undefeated in his first 13 fights and was knocking out people and then his performance slid .He lost his movement and aggression he had in the beginning may be it is a mental thing or may be he had bad coaching restricting his performance  .


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 31, 2017, 01:23:00 AM
Or maybe because he is always tired in training because his girlfriend is Ronda Rousey. ;-D

I disagree that he will get his old ferocity in the octagon back. He is 34 years old and the competition and skill in all of MMA is getting higher and higher. Soon the young fighters who have more motivation, skill and who are hungrier will take over. Theold  fighters like Travis Browne will only play the role of gate keeper in the sport.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on January 31, 2017, 10:33:17 PM
Guess who has been training with Anderson Silva in preparation of the latter's fight for UFC 208?  It's none other than Jacare Souza!  I think Jacare should be given a chance for the MW title.  He's not getting any younger and at least give him his shot.  I'm pretty sure he can take Bisping, Luke Rockhold and Yoel Romero.  Sometimes I think the UFC avoids giving some fighters a title shot because they're not marketable enough.
The UFC always avoids giving fighters a title shot if they are not marketable ,look at the case of Demian Maia he is being over looked for a very long time and he is a legit contender and certainly age is not in his side but in the case of Jacare Souza Yoel Romero defeated him in a very close fight and both the fighters are in their late 30s and they both deserve the title shot long back and so is the case with Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson and so does Max Hollaway.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 31, 2017, 10:45:14 PM
@bbc reported may be that is the real case ;) as Travis Browne followed Ronda Rousey to her coach and both the fighters are doomed ,heard that there used to make Ronda's sparring partners sign a non disclosure to avoid spreading the truth to the public and they were building Rousey as a legit super star  ;D her coach even said she will be a world champion boxer if she wants to as she is already knocking out world champion boxers during sparring and will even beat Floyd Mayweather  :D. Right now Travis Browne is a gate keeper for talented fighters but if you look at the heavy weights every one is above 34 and most have won titles after that and so he can make a come back if he is under the right coaches because i still remember a couple of years back he was a legit treat in the UFC who was knocking people out with elbows and front kicks.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 06, 2017, 06:04:55 AM
Hey guys.  Check the new OP.  All info available for this event should be all there now.  

I can't believe Anderson Silva is the underdog here vs Derek Brunson.  I think the latter is a journeyman and is not top 5 material.  And I don't think Silva will allow himself to lose vs Brunson even though Silva may be thinking he has no shot in the title anymore.  But who knows what's going on in that head of his.  Maybe he'll go for the oldest champ in the UFC...  ;D


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: beerlover on February 06, 2017, 05:52:52 PM
Hey guys.  Check the new OP.  All info available for this event should be all there now.  

I can't believe Anderson Silva is the underdog here vs Derek Brunson.  I think the latter is a journeyman and is not top 5 material.  And I don't think Silva will allow himself to lose vs Brunson even though Silva may be thinking he has no shot in the title anymore.  But who knows what's going on in that head of his.  Maybe he'll go for the oldest champ in the UFC...  ;D
I still can’t believe we are that old now :D I remember the times Silva was the man and he was the greatest fighter we saw with his matrix like moving around and iritating his opponents and all. One day he got old and when he was moving around BAM!

One punch and he was gone, never been the same. He was the guy who showed the World you do not need to be strong and punch your way into winning, he fought smart. I hope he gets this one and shows the World he can make a big comeback and win it again too.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: DeathAngel on February 06, 2017, 06:10:22 PM
De Randamie vs Holly Holm - I think Holm will win this one but it won't be easy
Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson - Silva to KO this bitch


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 06, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Quick Leans:
Holly Holm (10-2) vs. Germaine de Randamie (6-3) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
Germanie, she is a better and more aggressive striker imo, I hope more people bet on holm and the line moves.

Anderson Silva (33-8) vs. Derek Brunson (16-4) (Middleweight)
Skip, Idk wtf is going to happen here
Ronaldo Souza (23-4) vs. Tim Boetsch (20-10) (Middleweight)
Souza via desruction, have to look for a prop maybe Souza in the distance
Glover Teixeira (25-5) vs. Jared Cannonier (9-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Glover please retire, I dont want to see you with brain damage. Skip for now
Dustin Poirier (20-5) vs. Jim Miller (28-8) (Lightweight)
Why is Miller such a dog here? Im considering a bet on Miller, going to watch some more tape.

So far the only one I would bet on is Germanie


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 07, 2017, 01:53:31 AM
@krach. I will follow you on this bet. At what method do you think Germain will win? Will it reach the decision? Maybe a prop bet of Germaine Radamie winning via unanimous decision could be a good one? I cannot see Holly being knocked out in this fight. She has good movement in the octagon and could be hard to hit.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 07, 2017, 02:29:18 AM
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Germaine Radamie winning via unanimous decision could be a good one
Im not sure of the odds yet but I think this will go the 5 round distance.
Im sticking to Germaine win right now around 1.85
You could possibly hedge that with holm via UD so that you break even if that happens.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 07, 2017, 05:40:30 AM

Anderson Silva (33-8) vs. Derek Brunson (16-4) (Middleweight)
Skip, Idk wtf is going to happen here


Whaaa?  Seriously?  How can you not bet on the Spider aka Mr. Nunchuk leg?  

Seriously though, I see Derek Brunson as something like a journeyman.  Good enough for top 10 but then cannot break into the top 5.  Silva on the other hand is playing the role of the gate keeper, but someone who still hasn't given up on his title aspirations yet.  I know he's 41, but his passion and motivation is still there.  And he's still quite good imho.  At around 2.25 there's a bit of value there I think.

Edit:  Oh and he might be the closest to this guy to fight in the octagon.

https://i.imgur.com/DSEDZo0.jpg


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on February 07, 2017, 05:54:31 PM
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Germaine Radamie winning via unanimous decision could be a good one
Im not sure of the odds yet but I think this will go the 5 round distance.
Im sticking to Germaine win right now around 1.85
You could possibly hedge that with holm via UD so that you break even if that happens.

I got Holm on this one. She has got a good chin and heavy striker. Holm by unanimous decision.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on February 07, 2017, 10:21:48 PM

Anderson Silva (33-8) vs. Derek Brunson (16-4) (Middleweight)
Skip, Idk wtf is going to happen here

Whaaa?  Seriously?  How can you not bet on the Spider aka Mr. Nunchuk leg?  
Seriously though, I see Derek Brunson as something like a journeyman.  Good enough for top 10 but then cannot break into the top 5.  Silva on the other hand is playing the role of the gate keeper, but someone who still hasn't given up on his title aspirations yet.  I know he's 41, but his passion and motivation is still there.  And he's still quite good imho.  At around 2.25 there's a bit of value there I think.

Edit:  Oh and he might be the closest to this guy to fight in the octagon.
UFC is now promoting everyone as a killer and if you remember Derek Brunson is coming into this fight after a loss and so if you are fighting against the legend Anderson Silva i would not bet against him.Yes he lost 4 matches but those are close ones in my view,against Chris Weidman he got lucky as Silva was playing too much and in the rematch he broke his leg and the fight against    Michael Bisping he almost finished him if not for that early victory celebration it would have being different and then against DC it was a very very short notice fight and he fought well against him.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hanako on February 08, 2017, 12:12:23 AM
Holly Holm needs to win her next fight, and beat Germaine de Randamie to take the Women's Featherweight Championship. Then defend it a couple times for here to remembered who just knocking out Ronda Rousey. After two losses from Meisha Tate and Valentina Shevchenko she really needs to win the fight. Hope to see a classic fight from here. Unexpected that Anderson Silva is back. I can't wait to watch UFC 208.



Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on February 08, 2017, 12:20:52 AM
Holly Holm needs to win her next fight, and beat Germaine de Randamie to take the Women's Featherweight Championship. Then defend it a couple times for here to remembered who just knocking out Ronda Rousey. After two losses from Meisha Tate and Valentina Shevchenko she really needs to win the fight. Hope to see a classic fight from here. Unexpected that Anderson Silva is back. I can't wait to watch UFC 208.
The Feather weight division is built entirely because of the popularity of Cristiane Justino AKA Cyborg who is considered as the best female fighter in the world and even when UFC was hyping and building Ronda Rousey everyone knew that Cyborg could smoke her to dust and that is the reason they kept her quite for a long time and when Ronda lost then they wanted a new face in the women's division and she is the one to carry that and even if Holly Holmes wins this one her real test will be Cyborg and i really wanted to see that match.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 08, 2017, 12:54:14 AM
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Germaine Radamie winning via unanimous decision could be a good one
Im not sure of the odds yet but I think this will go the 5 round distance.
Im sticking to Germaine win right now around 1.85
You could possibly hedge that with holm via UD so that you break even if that happens.

Yes good idea thanks. What sportsbooks would you recommend for UFC prop betting that gives good odds and what sportsbooks would you recommend for sportsbetting in general? I use 2 sometimes 3 different sportsbooks but I think I need more to find the best odds. The problem is I do not know which ones are trustworthy.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: asdalani on February 08, 2017, 01:06:04 AM
Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hanako on February 08, 2017, 01:16:01 AM
Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a  Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: asdalani on February 08, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a  Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.


Of course,

$5 in BTC Private Stream:
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118436.0

it's legit, I have watched the Pacquiao Fight, Holloway fight, Rousey fight, etc without lag.


The match should be interesting, she has power in her kicks. Pretty deadly if she catches her opponent while up n up. I have yet to see Holm's ground game (I don't watch UFC as much). You might be right about 2 rounds.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hanako on February 08, 2017, 01:45:52 AM
Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a  Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.


Of course,

$5 in BTC Private Stream: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118436.0

it is legit, I have watched the Pacquiao Fight, Holloway fight, Rousey fight, etc without lag.


The match should be interesting, she has power in her kicks. Pretty deadly if she catches her opponent while up n up. I have yet to see Holm's ground game (I don't watch UFC as much).

Thanks for the link dude, I don't know when the last time I watched pay per view with my friends. I don't want to miss this one because I have my  spare time to watch this coming Saturday night. Yes she's also Kickboxer once she caught you with his kick probably you will get knocked out like what happened to Ronda Rousey.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: asdalani on February 08, 2017, 01:49:41 AM
Holm vs De Randamie seems like an interesting watch, I am thinking about spending $5 to get the Pay-Per-View stream though I am not wanting to purchase it if it another quick knockout fight. It seemed kind of rigged if you catch my drift dude.

I like Holm, no disrespect to her as a fighter. I like Rousey too.

Dude can you give me a  Pay-Per-View stream site that accepts Bitcoin, I would like also to spend just to watch UFC 208 live.

A knock out (punches or knee to the body) by Holm round 2 or a unanimous decision. If Holly loses this fight, it's time for her like Ronda Rousey did. Her time already passed.


Of course,

$5 in BTC Private Stream: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118436.0

it is legit, I have watched the Pacquiao Fight, Holloway fight, Rousey fight, etc without lag.


The match should be interesting, she has power in her kicks. Pretty deadly if she catches her opponent while up n up. I have yet to see Holm's ground game (I don't watch UFC as much).

Thanks for the link dude, I don't know when the last time I watched pay per view with my friends. I don't want to miss this one because I have my  spare time to watch this coming Saturday night. Yes she's also Kickboxer once she caught you with his kick probably you will get knocked out like what happened to Ronda Rousey.

You're welcome! Cool, cool.

That makes much sense, her stance was tight when fighting Rhonda Rousey.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 08, 2017, 06:05:02 AM
What's up UFC fans.  I'm posting some really good videos for you.  The first two are some analysis from Dan Hardy for the main event and the co main event for 208.  And I will be posting a couple of other videos from their UFC Embedded series.  Finally there's also the UFC 208 Countdown which somewhat hypes the fight a bit but it's still good for entertainment purposes.  Enjoy!  :)

UFC 208: Inside The Octagon - Holly Holm vs Germaine de Randamie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6eQzYeN0Qk

UFC 208: Inside The Octagon - Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2KZ5Ih6oFY

UFC 208 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qMGmi3wLTU

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox8LIMSLBvw

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThB_CWRDg8w


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on February 08, 2017, 06:38:17 PM
The main event should be interesting. Holly Holm is the most decorated boxer in the UFC, versus the one of the most decorated kickboxers in Germaine De Randamie. I think De Randamie is still training out of American Kickboxing Academy. Holly Holm trains at JacksonWink. De Randamie's ground game and wrestling have been suspect in the past when she fought Amanda Nunes. Cutting less weight means both of them should be sharper at 145 than they were at 135. Whoever wins can keep the belt warm until Cyborg returns.

I think there are a few guaranteed winners on this card. Odds are not good for them, too low.

Anderson Silva and Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza are now training together. There should be some good fights.



Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on February 08, 2017, 10:40:44 PM
The main event should be interesting. Holly Holm is the most decorated boxer in the UFC, versus the one of the most decorated kickboxers in Germaine De Randamie. I think De Randamie is still training out of American Kickboxing Academy. Holly Holm trains at JacksonWink. De Randamie's ground game and wrestling have been suspect in the past when she fought Amanda Nunes. Cutting less weight means both of them should be sharper at 145 than they were at 135. Whoever wins can keep the belt warm until Cyborg returns.

I think there are a few guaranteed winners on this card. Odds are not good for them, too low.

Anderson Silva and Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza are now training together. There should be some good fights.
Both Holly Holm and Germaine De Randamie are decorated in their respected sports and  Holly Holm too had kick boxing experience and if you compare their knockout records Holly Holm has more knockouts and even though Randamie is undefeated in kick boxing she is not a knockout artist.I have seen her fights and Germaine has a lot of flaws in her fight game and i am sure Jackson Wink will find a game plan to defeat her.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 09, 2017, 05:33:52 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the main event is unpredictable?  It's a new weight class, so yeah less weight cutting and there's lesser strain for both fighters.  This could be something they could get used to from both their POV, they feel stronger and that gives them both more confidence.  This is closer to 50/50 I think.

Edit:  Oh and here's the media day face offs.  Nothing much to see though.  Everyone feels friendly except Jacare and the big bear.

UFC 208: Media Day Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBTEz7jEeH4


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on February 09, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the main event is unpredictable?  It's a new weight class, so yeah less weight cutting and there's lesser strain for both fighters.  This could be something they could get used to from both their POV, they feel stronger and that gives them both more confidence.  This is closer to 50/50 I think.
It is an unpredictable match and every fight is unpredictable ,this is a new weight division and the only elite fighter in the division is Justino Cyborg and since she is out the 135 pound fighters are elevated to fight for the championship,Miesha Tate defeated Holmes but she was winning the match till the 5th round and somehow Tate took her down in the last moment and chocked her out,her loss to Valentina Shevchenko   who is relatively unknown to MMA fans but a beast in martial arts,look at her resume ,she defeat Joanna Jędrzejczyk three times in Muay Thai kick boxing competitions,black belt in multiple martial arts,so what i am trying to tell is that Holmes lost to Shevchenko because she is a crazy talent.
Germaine de Randamie is undefeated but how about the level of competition she faced and she had her loss in MMA when she faced top level fighters,so these are the reasons i think Holmes could win this match up.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on February 09, 2017, 07:31:47 PM
Both Holly Holm and Germaine De Randamie are decorated in their respected sports and  Holly Holm too had kick boxing experience and if you compare their knockout records Holly Holm has more knockouts and even though Randamie is undefeated in kick boxing she is not a knockout artist.I have seen her fights and Germaine has a lot of flaws in her fight game and i am sure Jackson Wink will find a game plan to defeat her.

Holly Holm trained at Jacksonwink, an MMA gym from the time she was in high school, but never competed in kickboxing or MMA until her boxing career was over.  De De Randamie didn't have good wrestling and good takedown defense until late in her MMA career when she trained at american kickboxing academy, the same gym as Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier, Luke Rockhold and those big name MMA fighters. That's one reason for her record not being as impressive as it might have been. Even though De Randamie's wrestling has improved, I think Holly Holm is the stronger and better wrestler and the better athlete.

The main concern for Holly Holm, her reflexes and reactions could be slowing down. Her accuracy also could be waning. Main concern for De Randamie could be her training in a place where she might not have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and jiu jitsu.

I also think Holly Holm wins the fight. We will see.  :)

Am I the only one who thinks the main event is unpredictable?  It's a new weight class, so yeah less weight cutting and there's lesser strain for both fighters.  This could be something they could get used to from both their POV, they feel stronger and that gives them both more confidence.  This is closer to 50/50 I think.

Edit:  Oh and here's the media day face offs.  Nothing much to see though.  Everyone feels friendly except Jacare and the big bear.

UFC 208: Media Day Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBTEz7jEeH4

I'm glad Holly Holm is fighting at 145 now and not cutting as much weight. Should be healthier for both of them.

I have to re-watch De Randamies last few fights. Right now I think Holly Holm should be the favorite to win.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Clement Kaliyar on February 09, 2017, 08:51:06 PM
The main concern for Holly Holm, her reflexes and reactions could be slowing down. Her accuracy also could be waning. Main concern for De Randamie could be her training in a place where she might not have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and jiu jitsu.

I also think Holly Holm wins the fight. We will see.  :)
I'm glad Holly Holm is fighting at 145 now and not cutting as much weight. Should be healthier for both of them.
I have to re-watch De Randamies last few fights. Right now I think Holly Holm should be the favorite to win.
Holly Holm is still in her prime and there are not many tough competition in the new weight division apart from Cyborg and her reaction and reflexes are perfect even in her last fight in which she lost ,the problem was her game plan ,since she is a counter striker she waited too long and Valentina countered perfectly to everything she thew at her,Randamie has to prove her MMA credentials and since there are not many talented fighters in the division she got the opportunity to fight for the inaugural belt.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 10, 2017, 01:58:44 AM
Both Holly Holm and Germaine De Randamie are decorated in their respected sports and  Holly Holm too had kick boxing experience and if you compare their knockout records Holly Holm has more knockouts and even though Randamie is undefeated in kick boxing she is not a knockout artist.I have seen her fights and Germaine has a lot of flaws in her fight game and i am sure Jackson Wink will find a game plan to defeat her.


The main concern for Holly Holm, her reflexes and reactions could be slowing down. Her accuracy also could be waning. Main concern for De Randamie could be her training in a place where she might not have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and jiu jitsu.



Do you really watch the UFC? Holly Holm's reflexes slowing down? Accuracy waning? What are you talking about?

Why would Germaine want to have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu? She is fighting Holly Holm! A professional boxer and a kick boxer after that before joining the UFC. Training for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu vs primarily a striker would be a waste of time.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 10, 2017, 05:00:52 AM
The line is moving towards the favorite De Randamie.  I hope it moves some more so Holm's line moves in the opposite direction more.  This fight might be closer to evens than we think.  I'm gonna wait until the weigh-ins before making the bet and see how Holm's nerves is really affecting her mentally.

There's an interview with her where it shows that the nerves could be getting to her psychologically.  De Randamie on the other hand is more relaxed and confident.  Be careful if you corner the wounded tiger though.  Holm, with a good game plan plus going all out might be the ticket to beat De Randamie.

Watch the interviews.

Holly Holm UFC 208 Open Workout Scrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RusdLwtNHtM

Germaine de Randamie UFC 208 Open Workout Scrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41G5JgsvYdo

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQmBSh8aRE


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 10, 2017, 09:05:05 AM
http://youtu.be/m4hVWAycufY (http://youtu.be/m4hVWAycufY)
https://degenbet.com/ufc-208-holm-vs-de-randamie-picks/ (https://degenbet.com/ufc-208-holm-vs-de-randamie-picks/)

Germaine de Randamie
Jacare Souza vs. Tim Boetsch under 1½ rounds



Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 10, 2017, 10:41:14 AM
@krach. Thank you for posting the links and giving us your tips. I already made a bet on Germaine moneyline and got in at a good price 1.85 on Nitrogen Sports.

I agree with your friend in the video. Jacare versus Tim Boetsch will go over 1.5 rounds. Tim is tougher than you think.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on February 10, 2017, 08:18:27 PM
@krach. Thank you for posting the links and giving us your tips. I already made a bet on Germaine moneyline and got in at a good price 1.85 on Nitrogen Sports.

I agree with your friend in the video. Jacare versus Tim Boetsch will go over 1.5 rounds. Tim is tougher than you think.
Good luck with your bet line with Germaine ,i think this match will go the entire 5 rounds and it all depends on the stamina of Germaine as i know she has never being in a five round fight in MMA,so it is a big test for her .
Jacare Souza is a hard battle for Tim Boetsch, he hits hard but if Jacare Souza takes him to the ground then it is game over and that is what i see is going to happen in this match.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on February 10, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
I have my predictions for the matches and all of the main events are easy ones unless and until there is an upset i hope i will win my parlay  :)

Holly Holm        vs Germaine de Randamie
I go with Holly Holm to win the title
            
Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson   
Anderson Silva will win the match    
      
Ronaldo Souza  vs Tim Boetsch   
Ronaldo Souza to win the match by submission
      
Glover Teixeira vs Jared Cannonier      
Glover Teixeira to win the match by KO/TKO   
   
Dustin Poirier   vs Jim Miller
Dustin Poirier to win the match


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on February 11, 2017, 12:27:42 AM
Holly Holm is still in her prime and there are not many tough competition in the new weight division apart from Cyborg and her reaction and reflexes are perfect even in her last fight in which she lost ,the problem was her game plan ,since she is a counter striker she waited too long and Valentina countered perfectly to everything she thew at her,Randamie has to prove her MMA credentials and since there are not many talented fighters in the division she got the opportunity to fight for the inaugural belt.

Holly Holm isn't old.

Her boxing record is 33-2.
MMA record is 10-2.
Kickboxing record is 2-1.

Overall she is 45-5.

50 professional fights is some wear and tear.

Randamie kickboxing record is 37-0.
MMA record is 6-3.

Overall she is 43-3.

Valentina is also a decorated kickboxer with a 58-2 kickboxing record.

In terms of fighter lore, it is said that with aging fighters the first thing they lose is their reflexes.

Do you really watch the UFC? Holly Holm's reflexes slowing down? Accuracy waning? What are you talking about?

Why would Germaine want to have access to good sparring partners for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu? She is fighting Holly Holm! A professional boxer and a kick boxer after that before joining the UFC. Training for wrestling and Jiu Jitsu vs primarily a striker would be a waste of time.

Holly Holm was very accurate and sharp when she fought Ronda Rousey.

In her fights after that, her accuracy seems to have declined. She didn't land many punches or kicks on Miesha Tate or Valentina Shevchenko.

Most MMA fighters from europe come to the united states to train. It might be said that america has some of the best MMA teams, coaches and trainers.

Germaine De Randamie training in holland, I don't know if there are many skilled coaches or sparring partners there for her to work with.

Holly Holm has been working with Israel Martinez, Jon Jones and Anthony Pettis wrestling coach. Holly's wrestling is also very good in addition to her boxing and kickboxing.

Holly could go for a takedown if that is where her team thinks Germaine is weakest.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 11, 2017, 12:57:19 AM
@Hydrogen. This is what I think. Holly has been an enigma. Before beating Ronda Rousey she was considered only as average and was not on anyone's radar before becoming the women's bantamweight champ. Is she really only an average fighter that was hyped after defeating Ronda?

How long has she been working with Israel Martinez? Did she focus more on her wrestlng in this fight? If she did we might see a change in her style.



Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2017, 01:28:05 AM

Holms will probably win this games seeing she's got better footwork.
After anderson's leg incident, it does look like it could break any moment by a simple leg kick.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 11, 2017, 05:10:53 AM

Holms will probably win this games seeing she's got better footwork.
After anderson's leg incident, it does look like it could break any moment by a simple leg kick.

GTFO spammer.  Anderson Silva will win via flying knee and get Brunson running back to his corner.

Anyway here's the official weigh-in video.  My thoughts on the main event fighters:

Holm seems edgy.  Like she can't wait to get in the octagon and get business done.  She's ready and the nerves might help get more adrenaline pumped in her system.

Randamie seems relaxed.  Too relaxed in fact.  She might be forgetting that this a fight for the UFC Inaugural Women's FW Championship.  She acts like it's in the bag and looks like she's already counting her chickens before they're hatched.  It could be a tough match for her and that could get her down psychologically.

UFC 208: Official Weigh-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4w61IiG8Xo

UFC 208 Weigh-in Results:
Holly Holm (144.4) vs. Germaine de Randamie (143.6)
Anderson Silva (185) vs. Derek Brunson (186)
Ronaldo Souza (185.8) vs. Tim Boetsch (185.8)
Glover Teixeira (205.2) vs. Jared Cannonier (204.4)
Dustin Poirier (155.2) vs. Jim Miller (154.6)
Randy Brown (170.6) vs. Belal Muhammad (170.2)
Wilson Reis (125.2) vs. Yuta Sasaki (125.4)
Nik Lentz (155.8) vs. Islam Makhachev (155)
Jarred Brooks (125) vs. Ian McCall (125.2)
Marcin Tybura (245.4) vs. Justin Willis (* Did Not Weigh In)
Rick Glenn (145.8) vs. Phillipe Nover (145.6)
Roan Carneiro (170) vs. Ryan LaFlare (170.6)

Posting the final two videos of embedded too.  Enjoy!  :)

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFu9OlQwTA

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S0OqdREQmw


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2017, 07:58:37 AM

Holms will probably win this games seeing she's got better footwork.
After anderson's leg incident, it does look like it could break any moment by a simple leg kick.

GTFO spammer.  Anderson Silva will win via flying knee and get Brunson running back to his corner.

Anyway here's the official weigh-in video.  My thoughts on the main event fighters:

Holm seems edgy.  Like she can't wait to get in the octagon and get business done.  She's ready and the nerves might help get more adrenaline pumped in her system.

Randamie seems relaxed.  Too relaxed in fact.  She might be forgetting that this a fight for the UFC Inaugural Women's FW Championship.  She acts like it's in the bag and looks like she's already counting her chickens before they're hatched.  It could be a tough match for and this will get her down psychologically.

UFC 208: Official Weigh-in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4w61IiG8Xo

UFC 208 Weigh-in Results:
Holly Holm (144.4) vs. Germaine de Randamie (143.6)
Anderson Silva (185) vs. Derek Brunson (186)
Ronaldo Souza (185.8) vs. Tim Boetsch (185.8)
Glover Teixeira (205.2) vs. Jared Cannonier (204.4)
Dustin Poirier (155.2) vs. Jim Miller (154.6)
Randy Brown (170.6) vs. Belal Muhammad (170.2)
Wilson Reis (125.2) vs. Yuta Sasaki (125.4)
Nik Lentz (155.8) vs. Islam Makhachev (155)
Jarred Brooks (125) vs. Ian McCall (125.2)
Marcin Tybura (245.4) vs. Justin Willis (* Did Not Weigh In)
Rick Glenn (145.8) vs. Phillipe Nover (145.6)
Roan Carneiro (170) vs. Ryan LaFlare (170.6)

Posting the final two videos of embedded too.  Enjoy!  :)

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFu9OlQwTA

UFC 208 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S0OqdREQmw

:D

he use to sweep his leg kick from a distant and knock vitor using front kick back then but this time its something that you don't regularly see during his fights. i bet he can't use his legs when on ground to triangle lock his opponents.

 I bet for Brunson. huge win.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on February 11, 2017, 04:42:24 PM
@Hydrogen. This is what I think. Holly has been an enigma. Before beating Ronda Rousey she was considered only as average and was not on anyone's radar before becoming the women's bantamweight champ. Is she really only an average fighter that was hyped after defeating Ronda?
How long has she been working with Israel Martinez? Did she focus more on her wrestlng in this fight? If she did we might see a change in her style.
Holy Holmes started her boxing career while sparring in a MMA gym and jackson wink camp was behind her the entire career and she was working with Israel Martinez for a long time now but since her focus is not wrestling she is focused on take down defense which has helped her in her fights and she has taken down Ronda Rousey and her game plan will be to stand and trade and if Randamie performs better in striking she might take her down and finish the match.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Pattberry on February 11, 2017, 04:47:20 PM
he use to sweep his leg kick from a distant and knock vitor using front kick back then but this time its something that you don't regularly see during his fights. i bet he can't use his legs when on ground to triangle lock his opponents.

I bet for Brunson. huge win.
In this match Anderson Silva is the underdog and if you bet for him you could win huge :) Brunson is coming into this match after a loss and that too in the first round ,Anderson broke his leg but his performance were not that bad in all of his losses ,he is the underdog because he has lost 4 in a row and his age is against him in the eyes of the bookies.My bet is on Silva .


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on February 11, 2017, 05:14:40 PM
Holly Holm is looking ripped as hell, top shape. But then again, so was Ronda Rousey in the last fight, and we all know what happened.

Radamie is undefeated in kick boxing. Holm is also a top striker in the UFC. I have no idea who I would bet for.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2017, 05:15:44 PM
he use to sweep his leg kick from a distant and knock vitor using front kick back then but this time its something that you don't regularly see during his fights. i bet he can't use his legs when on ground to triangle lock his opponents.

I bet for Brunson. huge win.
In this match Anderson Silva is the underdog and if you bet for him you could win huge :) Brunson is coming into this match after a loss and that too in the first round ,Anderson broke his leg but his performance were not that bad in all of his losses ,he is the underdog because he has lost 4 in a row and his age is against him in the eyes of the bookies.My bet is on Silva .

he is now the underdog? lol all the more. what i mean when i say huge win is that sure win. bet big and win big.
if he lose 4 fights in a row, chances is that he will lose the next fifth. his leg was a career ender, he should have retire after it. i'm a spider fan but after two fights with weidman, retiring is something he should have considered.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 11, 2017, 05:37:50 PM
he use to sweep his leg kick from a distant and knock vitor using front kick back then but this time its something that you don't regularly see during his fights. i bet he can't use his legs when on ground to triangle lock his opponents.

I bet for Brunson. huge win.
In this match Anderson Silva is the underdog and if you bet for him you could win huge :) Brunson is coming into this match after a loss and that too in the first round ,Anderson broke his leg but his performance were not that bad in all of his losses ,he is the underdog because he has lost 4 in a row and his age is against him in the eyes of the bookies.My bet is on Silva .

he is now the underdog? lol all the more. what i mean when i say huge win is that sure win. bet big and win big.
if he lose 4 fights in a row, chances is that he will lose the next fifth. his leg was a career ender, he should have retire after it. i'm a spider fan but after two fights with weidman, retiring is something he should have considered.


Let's not kid ourselves here... Anderson Silva is a living legend and a hall of famer, no doubt about that, but the guy is starting to be too old for this shit. He has taken too much punishment. He can win? sure, he can defeat anyone, but as age creeps in, most fighters start being the underdogs at least in terms of odds.

And speaking about odds... surprised to see Randamie with better odds than Holms. Randamie has a very limited UFC record.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2017, 05:57:45 PM
he use to sweep his leg kick from a distant and knock vitor using front kick back then but this time its something that you don't regularly see during his fights. i bet he can't use his legs when on ground to triangle lock his opponents.

I bet for Brunson. huge win.
In this match Anderson Silva is the underdog and if you bet for him you could win huge :) Brunson is coming into this match after a loss and that too in the first round ,Anderson broke his leg but his performance were not that bad in all of his losses ,he is the underdog because he has lost 4 in a row and his age is against him in the eyes of the bookies.My bet is on Silva .

he is now the underdog? lol all the more. what i mean when i say huge win is that sure win. bet big and win big.
if he lose 4 fights in a row, chances is that he will lose the next fifth. his leg was a career ender, he should have retire after it. i'm a spider fan but after two fights with weidman, retiring is something he should have considered.


Let's not kid ourselves here... Anderson Silva is a living legend and a hall of famer, no doubt about that, but the guy is starting to be too old for this shit. He has taken too much punishment. He can win? sure, he can defeat anyone, but as age creeps in, most fighters start being the underdogs at least in terms of odds.

And speaking about odds... surprised to see Randamie with better odds than Holms. Randamie has a very limited UFC record.

exactly. Dan henderson is jsut an example here, he use to be huge hall of famer but the guy keeps losing all the time, i can't believe Dana keep giving him some fights but probably because he gives the crowd a fight we want. a fight where someone gets to be pound heavily which turns out to be him every time.

for Silva's case, its not just the age but that leg too. a broken bone is a broken bone.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on February 11, 2017, 06:41:50 PM
I have my predictions for the matches and all of the main events are easy ones unless and until there is an upset i hope i will win my parlay  :)

Holly Holm        vs Germaine de Randamie
I go with Holly Holm to win the title
            
Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson   
Anderson Silva will win the match    
      
Ronaldo Souza  vs Tim Boetsch   
Ronaldo Souza to win the match by submission
      
Glover Teixeira vs Jared Cannonier      
Glover Teixeira to win the match by KO/TKO   
   
Dustin Poirier   vs Jim Miller
Dustin Poirier to win the match

Here's my prediction for the fight:

Holly Holm   vs Germaine de Randamie - I pick Holm
             
Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson    - I pick Silva

Ronaldo Souza  vs Tim Boetsch - hard pick for me, but I go with Souza
      
Glover Teixeira vs Jared Cannonier - I pick Glover      

Dustin Poirier vs Jim Miller - another hard pick, but I go with Miller



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Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Southpaw0 on February 11, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
germaine will dominate. thank me later


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Wendigo on February 11, 2017, 10:22:58 PM
germaine will dominate. thank me later

You sure? I was thinking of going with Holly Holm because of her performance vs Ronda Rousey which is basically the last match I have seen of her but she left a lasting impression on me so I am backing her up tonight for fun. And apparently she is the underdog so the odds are even higher on her and that's an extra bonus. I won't be upset if she loses though that's gambling  ;)


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on February 11, 2017, 10:23:29 PM
Let's not kid ourselves here... Anderson Silva is a living legend and a hall of famer, no doubt about that, but the guy is starting to be too old for this shit. He has taken too much punishment. He can win? sure, he can defeat anyone, but as age creeps in, most fighters start being the underdogs at least in terms of odds.

And speaking about odds... surprised to see Randamie with better odds than Holms. Randamie has a very limited UFC record.
The odd makers are really weird and they make these odds according to the spur of the moment and the reason for Randamie being a favorite is simply because Holy Holmes is coming into this fight with two consecutive losses in her career and that is what favors Randamie to be the favorite in the eyes of the bookies and she has a huge fan following in her native country.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Southpaw0 on February 11, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
germaine will dominate. thank me later

You sure? I was thinking of going with Holly Holm because of her performance vs Ronda Rousey which is basically the last match I have seen of her but she left a lasting impression on me so I am backing her up tonight for fun. And apparently she is the underdog so the odds are even higher on her and that's an extra bonus. I won't be upset if she loses though that's gambling  ;)

MMA is all about skillset v skillset... One particular win against another fighter isnt always an indicator of who will win..  Germaine is a muay thai and kick boxing champion.. the more skilled striker overall and since Holm is a striker herself she wont have to worry much about Holm taking her down which favors Germaine by a long shot...


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on February 11, 2017, 11:27:42 PM
Germaine de Randamie
Anderson Silva
Tim Boetsch only for the odds
Glover Teixeira
Dustin Poirier

Randy Brown my pick of the card
Wilson Reis
Nik Lentz
Ian McCall


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 12, 2017, 12:56:29 AM
germaine will dominate. thank me later

You sure? I was thinking of going with Holly Holm because of her performance vs Ronda Rousey which is basically the last match I have seen of her but she left a lasting impression on me so I am backing her up tonight for fun. And apparently she is the underdog so the odds are even higher on her and that's an extra bonus. I won't be upset if she loses though that's gambling  ;)

Why are you asking if he is sure when you last watched a Holly fight it was over one year ago. He might know better than you and with your post it shows you do not know any better.

Everything Ronda in the octagon was hyped by the UFC to promote women's MMA. In her fights before Holly, Ronda's weaknesses were not exposed. Holly exposed them all as showed in that fight.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 12, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
Here's the results of the event.  Overall the card was average at best.  The only thing that made it interesting was the Silva vs Brunson fight.  But then that turned out to be underwhelming as well.  I'm happy Silva won tho.  It's still good to see a new W in his column.  So yeah, can't wait for 209.  I got Woodley on that one.  

https://i.imgur.com/feUbTPE.jpg

UFC 208: Post-fight Presser
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--s0SQgWDZM


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 12, 2017, 02:07:35 PM
I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Yuhee on February 12, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
What the heck what a boring fights except for Randamie vs Holly and Silva vs Brunson because of the controversies after the match. I would like to watch the all matches but nah better to watch the highlights at youtube. This is the worst series so far in my opinion 99% decision match ups. Waiting for the upcoming UFC 209 Thompson vs Woodley I hope this will not disappoint me.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 12, 2017, 02:27:24 PM
I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

It was def close.  At one point I really was thinking he lost, then the ref raised his arm.  Literally made me sigh in relief that one.  I'm gonna have to watch that fight again without any anxiety and with a clear mind later.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 12, 2017, 02:29:12 PM
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What the heck what a boring fights except for Randamie vs Holly and Silva vs Brunson because of the controversies after the match. I would like to watch the all matches but nah better to watch the highlights at youtube. This is the worst series so far in my opinion 99% decision match ups. Waiting for the upcoming UFC 209 Thompson vs Woodley I hope this will not disappoint me.

idk what people want, I guess watch street fights on youtube, or worldstar you will get your satisfaction.


Miller vs Poirier, was a barn burner

Souza vs Boetschm ,somehow Souza gets the sub in rd1 really dangrous fighter

AS vs Brunson was classic AS troll mode like he is in the matrix GOAT

Holm vs Germine was damn close , sure they could have taken a point away the first time



Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on February 12, 2017, 03:18:17 PM
What the heck what a boring fights except for Randamie vs Holly and Silva vs Brunson because of the controversies after the match.
It was not an Wwe event and knockouts are not only the interesting matches bro. As Krach said  Miller vs Poirier was a good match as well as Souza vs Boetschm and Anderson Silva vs Brunson .


I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.
It is a win for Anderson Silva without a doubt ,Brunson did not do anything of substance to score more points and the only shots he could do was in the clinch and Silva was not having any issues receiving those and he stuffed almost all of his take downs .The title fight was a bit disappointment as i think she should have reduced points for Randamie for hitting Holmes twice after the bell and if so the match would have being a draw.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: vennali on February 12, 2017, 03:53:11 PM
I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

It was def close.  At one point I really was thinking he lost, then the ref raised his arm.  Literally made me sigh in relief that one.  I'm gonna have to watch that fight again without any anxiety and with a clear mind later.
Round 1 was his but after looking at round 2 I thought Anderson Silva had a huge task ahead of himself. I though Brunson had scored a lot more points that Silva by the end of round 3. Not really shocked by the final verdict but I think one can make a good case for Brunson for a win.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 12, 2017, 04:17:35 PM
So as predicted, we saw an Anderson Silva that is past his prime and won a very unclear fight, in my book he didn't won but whatever.

Germaine de Randamie had a good kick boxing as expected but she should have been disqualified by punching after the belt 2 fucking times, what a scam. Holly Holm had a great kick to the head and a couple of good punches. Holms deserved the win because of the good shots she had and the scam that was Germaine not getting a disqualified.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: electronicash on February 12, 2017, 05:36:28 PM

 it doesn't look like its a close fight, seem a very fix fight. both fights deserves a rematch. i'm still not convince how it turned out but a lot of those who watch it closely are disappointed. dana is whore. i wonder whos in the 210 matches.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on February 12, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 12, 2017, 06:52:06 PM
I would watch out for calling things fixed fights
that leads down the road of blaming "fixed fights" for your lost bets

in any case we have to take into account NYC judges and refs the next time a fight happens there.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on February 12, 2017, 07:28:54 PM
I would watch out for calling things fixed fights
that leads down the road of blaming "fixed fights" for your lost bets

in any case we have to take into account NYC judges and refs the next time a fight happens there.

Yeah it's a dangerous thing but there is no other way to explain what happened with that referrer.

But then again, what necessity would the UFC have to make Silva and Holms lose? they are bigger names in the UFC that sell more, so I doubt if there was a fix the UFC was involved. Anyway this is just conspiracy so if anyone lost money better luck next time.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on February 12, 2017, 08:26:34 PM
Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.
The referee was really inexperienced to feature in a title match and the commission has to be blamed as it could have being a draw have they deducted the points for hitting twice which is not acceptable under any circumstances ,i lost a big parlay because of this loss and UFC 208 was an predictable event and all of the fighters i wagged won the match.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: asdalani on February 12, 2017, 09:09:07 PM
Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.
The referee was really inexperienced to feature in a title match and the commission has to be blamed as it could have being a draw have they deducted the points for hitting twice which is not acceptable under any circumstances ,i lost a big parlay because of this loss and UFC 208 was an predictable event and all of the fighters i wagged won the match.

The ref did pretty good as far as I know, I think the rules are kind of different when woman are fighting in the ring.

The second cheap shot that Germaine de Randamie did after the round looked accidental.


I am not sure if anyone realized but even though Holly Holm lost that fight she was really professional with her fighting style.

The imbalance of the two fighters was kind of in plain site in my opinion, it was like Professional vs Intermediate (the after the round punches is another discussion, I won't get into that lol).

Example shown in this video:

0:27-0:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCd-Cd8uQc




Anderson Silva and Derek Brunson showed who was more professional when it comes down to fighting. Even though Derek Brunson seemed to get more hits in, he didn't have enough to intimidate his opponent. Silva was pretty much chilling. I thought that he lost the match but since UFC changed their scoring system Anderson Silva won.

I feel like Anderson Silva might retire soon though...


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Pattberry on February 12, 2017, 09:48:24 PM

The ref did pretty good as far as I know, I think the rules are kind of different when woman are fighting in the ring.

The second cheap shot that Germaine de Randamie did after the round looked accidental.


I am not sure if anyone realized but even though Holly Holm lost that fight she was really professional with her fighting style.

The imbalance of the two fighters was kind of in plain site in my opinion, it was like Professional vs Intermediate (the after the round punches is another discussion, I won't get into that lol).

Example shown in this video:

0:27-0:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCd-Cd8uQc
Anderson Silva and Derek Brunson showed who was more professional when it comes down to fighting. Even though Derek Brunson seemed to get more hits in, he didn't have enough to intimidate his opponent. Silva was pretty much chilling. I thought that he lost the match but since UFC changed their scoring system Anderson Silva won.

I feel like Anderson Silva might retire soon though...
I am not able to video as it is blocked in my area. The rules are same for men and women and if the referee did a good job he should have deducted a point for hitting the opponent for the second time after the bell. Anderson Silva was really enjoying his time inside the cage and he really performed well and i expected him to win and let him decide when he wants to retire. :)


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 13, 2017, 12:57:47 AM
How did Anderson Silva win that fight? There is no way he did. Sometimes I think the UFC gives more favor to the more marketable fighter. The UFC is first a business and a giver of entertainment second. As a player in the entertainment business of course they want to have the fighters that the people want to watch. The new owners are from the world of show business always remember that.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on February 13, 2017, 05:23:32 AM
I think Anderson won , a lot of people say he didnt. I gave him rd 1 and 3.

I watched the fight again.  You're right.  But still very close.  Leaning more towards a Silva win tho.  I guess I was expecting more from him, being a legend and all.  He's a bit slower now and I think his deterioration will come faster and faster as he approaches his mid 40's.  Maybe some future bets against him might be good.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 13, 2017, 12:04:23 PM
Yeep, the referrer was so stupid and out of his mind. He should have stopped the fight at the second time De Randamie punched Holm out of time, or at least deduct a god damn point, that was uncalled for.

Im glad I didn't took any bets. Both wins a total gamble, very diffuse wins.
The referee was really inexperienced to feature in a title match and the commission has to be blamed as it could have being a draw have they deducted the points for hitting twice which is not acceptable under any circumstances ,i lost a big parlay because of this loss and UFC 208 was an predictable event and all of the fighters i wagged won the match.

The ref did pretty good as far as I know, I think the rules are kind of different when woman are fighting in the ring.

The second cheap shot that Germaine de Randamie did after the round looked accidental.


I am not sure if anyone realized but even though Holly Holm lost that fight she was really professional with her fighting style.

The imbalance of the two fighters was kind of in plain site in my opinion, it was like Professional vs Intermediate (the after the round punches is another discussion, I won't get into that lol).

Example shown in this video:

0:27-0:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCd-Cd8uQc




Anderson Silva and Derek Brunson showed who was more professional when it comes down to fighting. Even though Derek Brunson seemed to get more hits in, he didn't have enough to intimidate his opponent. Silva was pretty much chilling. I thought that he lost the match but since UFC changed their scoring system Anderson Silva won.

I feel like Anderson Silva might retire soon though...

The referrer was a disaster, this guy was out of his mind to not stop the damn fight after she punched Holms two times, the points should have been deducted from the match!

This guy should be fired. Rules are the same for men and women: don't hit each other after the damn bell, it doesn't take rocket science to know this.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Immakillya on February 13, 2017, 01:46:39 PM
How did Anderson Silva win that fight? There is no way he did. Sometimes I think the UFC gives more favor to the more marketable fighter. The UFC is first a business and a giver of entertainment second. As a player in the entertainment business of course they want to have the fighters that the people want to watch. The new owners are from the world of show business always remember that.
You know, its more on business for them. They're really obvious. The way of commentors talk. They talk only about Silva. Now i know how dirty ufc is. Not only on Silva and Brunson. But also on Holms and De Randamie. This fight is really controversial fight. The referee is not good.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on February 13, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
haha

mostly when people lose the go to the dirty it must be fixed narrative.


AS won 2 rounds, deal with it
winning doesnt have to look good

Ref in last fight was horrible for not taking a point away

UFC is not connected to the refs or judges


If you want to speculate about dirty and fixed fights watch KSK or Bellator main events.
The polish KSK makes the judges on this card look like the top MMA experts
Bellator Shamrock vs Kimbo , wtf was Shamrock doing, Shamrock vs Gracie, was that a kick in the balls?
Kimbo vs DADA , did the realy need to fight that many rounds?
We saw the last main event in Bellator, not as bad as the ones above but still does look a little strange.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Marma Kalari on February 13, 2017, 06:54:26 PM
How did Anderson Silva win that fight? There is no way he did. Sometimes I think the UFC gives more favor to the more marketable fighter. The UFC is first a business and a giver of entertainment second. As a player in the entertainment business of course they want to have the fighters that the people want to watch. The new owners are from the world of show business always remember that.
If you are telling that the UFC fixed the match then you are wrong because if any promoter try to fix a match then he will land in jail and he will never have the opportunity to run the business,so UFC cannot determine who the winner is,the commission places the judges and they are the one who scores the fight and for me Anderson Silva won the fight even though it was a close fight.


Title: Re: UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on February 13, 2017, 07:08:12 PM
AS won 2 rounds, deal with it
winning doesnt have to look good

Ref in last fight was horrible for not taking a point away
UFC is not connected to the refs or judges

If you want to speculate about dirty and fixed fights watch KSK or Bellator main events.
The polish KSK makes the judges on this card look like the top MMA experts
Bellator Shamrock vs Kimbo , wtf was Shamrock doing, Shamrock vs Gracie, was that a kick in the balls?
Kimbo vs DADA , did the realy need to fight that many rounds?
We saw the last main event in Bellator, not as bad as the ones above but still does look a little strange.
The problem with Bellator is that they are booking old fighters and they are looking at the entertainment side of fighting as well as so is the reason we are seeing Kimbo v Dada who i think was one of the worst matches in the past ten year,i have seen worst fights in Pride and even recently Risin comes up with these sort of fights. If a promoter fixes the fight then it is end of their career as they will be getting a life long ban for that and will end in legal trouble .