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Title: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 13, 2016, 03:49:28 AM
Date: Saturday, December 17th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass):  12:30pm PST / 3:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1):  2pm PST / 5pm EST
Main Card (PPV):  5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Other/ufconfox22.jpg

Main Card (FOX)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Paige VanZant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paige_VanZant) (7-2) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Michelle Waterson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Waterson) (13-4) (Women's Strawweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Sage Northcutt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_Northcutt) (8-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Mickey Gall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Gall) (3-0) (Welterweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Urijah Faber (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urijah_Faber) (33-10) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/england.gif Brad Pickett (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Pickett) (25-12) (Bantamweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Alan Jouban (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Jouban) (14-4) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Mike Perry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Perry_(fighter)) (9-0) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/brazil.gif Luis Henrique da Silva (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Luis-Henrique-da-Silva-175493) (12-0) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/scotland.gif Paul Craig (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Paul-Craig-110167) (8-0) (Light Heavyweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Cole Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Miller) (21-10) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/japan.gif Mizuto Hirota (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizuto_Hirota) (17-7-2) (Featherweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Bryan Barberena (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Barberena) (12-3) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Colby Covington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colby_Covington) (10-1) (Welterweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif James Moontasri (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Moontasri) (9-4) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Alex Morono (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Morono) (12-3) (Welterweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Josh Emmett (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Josh-Emmett-85885) (10-0) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Scott Holtzman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Holtzman) (9-1) (Lightweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Leslie Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Smith_(fighter)) (8-7-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/mexico.gif Irene Aldana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Aldana) (7-2) (Women's Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Eddie Wineland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Wineland) (22-11-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/japan.gif Takeya Mizugaki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeya_Mizugaki) (21-10-2) (Bantamweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/usa.gif Hector Sandoval (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Hector-Sandoval-35409) (12-3) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/colombia.gif Fredy Serrano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredy_Serrano) (3-1) (Flyweight)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/serbia.gif Bojan Velickovic (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Bojan-Velickovic-76620) (14-3-1) vs. http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/RickJSanchez/Flags/russia.gif Sultan Aliev (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Aliev) (13-2) (Welterweight)

Other

- The event features the final fight of both Urijah Faber and Brad Pickett before they head into retirement.

Thanks to the PuertoRican for letting me use this content (https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1145729/UFC_on_FOX_22:_VanZant_vs._Wat...html).


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: pereira4 on December 13, 2016, 04:12:02 PM
I think the Urijah Faber and Brad Pickett fight has a reasonable pick for Urijah Faber in favor of a win. That is what i would do if I bet money, he is really good, but both will retire that night so im sure both will go at 100% and take big risks to put on a good show.

Paige VanZant surprised me with a greatly executed flying kick out of Tekken 3 that put the opponent to the floor in the last fight then forced a submission with repeated punches in the head. I hope she can keep winning, she has potential to become a big cash cow for the UFC brand, she definitely has the looks, she must be the cutest fighter I've seen.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 14, 2016, 12:36:52 AM
Or both Urijah and Brad play it safe and be in a boring fight. They are doing this more to get that last pay check from the UFC and move on with their lives. The Bisping versus Henderson fight was the same. Dan was already going to retire and did not give that extra effort to win the fight. It was so close.

The main event here is sexy. This is one of the only events I am looking forward to that is not pay per view.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: tokeweed on December 14, 2016, 05:43:31 AM
Have fun watching this video.  The main event should be enough to get all the men to discuss the bout in this thread.  Oh wait...  :D

Fight Night Sacramento: Road to the Octagon - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBcyAqpk18

These are two hot women striving to give us a good performance guys!  What's the matter with you?!?  Let the discussion begin.  Who's hotter?

https://i.imgur.com/czyx0GP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eTOFyvV.jpg



Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: pereira4 on December 14, 2016, 07:43:03 PM
I like Paige Vanzant because he looks like the typical college blonde hottie that you can never imagine that she is into that stuff. I mean that girl would be able to kick your ass and that is pretty weird cause she looks cute.

The Sage Northcutt vs. Mickey Gall will be good to see. Mickey Gall just won the CM Punk fight which was pretty hilarious to see since CM Punk had no idea what to do. Now we will see Mickey Gall against a skilled striker.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 15, 2016, 01:46:44 AM
@pereira4. Between Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall who would you choose? I was surprised to see Mickey as the favorite in this fight. He is not a big favorite but I am curious what made him have the advantage among the odds makers.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 15, 2016, 04:12:52 AM
@pereira4. Between Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall who would you choose? I was surprised to see Mickey as the favorite in this fight. He is not a big favorite but I am curious what made him have the advantage among the odds makers.
Odd makers are funny. Gall defeated CM Punk and called out Sage and so he is the favorite here ??? . I wanted to see Sage Northcutt shut down the smirk of Mickey Gall because after defeating CM Punk he thinks he is the best in the division :D


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson
Post by: pereira4 on December 16, 2016, 04:02:22 PM
@pereira4. Between Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall who would you choose? I was surprised to see Mickey as the favorite in this fight. He is not a big favorite but I am curious what made him have the advantage among the odds makers.

Mickey Gall is young and he is very hungry for victories and raising to the top, but he lacks the experience of Sage Northcutt. I think it's a very difficult fight to predict. Fighters that are good but have small experience are often overlooked. I think Gall will have a great career, and he has real chances to win, but it's hard to predict. What I see is the guy looks like his jaw is made off cement so I think he can take good punches, not sure about grappling tho.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 17, 2016, 12:38:54 AM
@pereira4. Well Sage Northcutts's jaw looks like it could take hard shots too. It almost looks like straight from a comic book super hero. My first thoughts on Sage vs Mickey was Sage has the advantage. When I saw the odds I was perplexed on why Mickey was the favorite.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 17, 2016, 07:33:23 AM
Watch the weigh-ins and look at PVZ and Waterson.  Dunno...  Those two women look too pretty and too nice to be fighting in the MMA.  I hope both of them don't get hurt.  :D

UFC Fight Night Sacramento:  Official Weigh-In
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JoWrzSZpYmM


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 17, 2016, 11:07:12 AM
Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt were the poster boys of UFC and they were given a decent push by the company for their looks and fighting ability and both had a loss in their career which dent their plans.Now they are back headlining the show and i hope Paige could win this match,Urijah Faber is my favorite to win the match even though Brad Pickett could knock him out with a punch and the match i am looking for is Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall , they have their rivalries and egos and let the best man win.
 


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: pereira4 on December 17, 2016, 04:03:44 PM
Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt were the poster boys of UFC and they were given a decent push by the company for their looks and fighting ability and both had a loss in their career which dent their plans.Now they are back headlining the show and i hope Paige could win this match,Urijah Faber is my favorite to win the match even though Brad Pickett could knock him out with a punch and the match i am looking for is Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall , they have their rivalries and egos and let the best man win.
 

I think Paige can still be the face of UFC if she keeps making good performances, but she cannot take many more loses because you can't make the face of the sport someone with more than a few loses. If Sage loes against Mickey Gall I think they will start promoting Mickey Gall more and try to make him a posterboy since he also got the all american jock look with the ridiculous jaw lol.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
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Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on December 17, 2016, 08:48:02 PM
My prediction for the event are as follows
Paige VanZant vs. Michelle Waterson
i would like to pick paige Vanzant but Michelle Waterson is an experienced fighter and my bet is on her.

Sage Northcutt vs. Mickey Gall
Sage Northcutt is an all round fighter and i think Sage Northcutt will win this match

Urijah Faber vs. Brad Pickett
This will be last match for Urijah Faber and he will win the match without any doubt.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 18, 2016, 02:16:42 AM
Urijah Faber is dominating this fight. Sometimes the UFC is doing a good job in making the fight look more than what it is by all the marketing. There was a moment before the fight when I thought Brad could win this fight. After the 1st round knock down by Urijah, you would already know this is his fight.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 18, 2016, 03:34:49 AM
That was a good card overall and LOL Michelle Waterson.  I didn't expect it would be so easy for her to win it.  PVZ, in hindsight was hyped too much by the UFC.  I mean really, she's really not that tough if you think about it.

Here's the post fight conference video.  Enjoy!

UFC Fight Night Sacramento:  Post Fight Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gTnAux0OMc


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 18, 2016, 03:54:27 AM
Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt were the poster boys of UFC and they were given a decent push by the company for their looks and fighting ability and both had a loss in their career which dent their plans.Now they are back headlining the show and i hope Paige could win this match,Urijah Faber is my favorite to win the match even though Brad Pickett could knock him out with a punch and the match i am looking for is Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall , they have their rivalries and egos and let the best man win.
 

I think Paige can still be the face of UFC if she keeps making good performances, but she cannot take many more loses because you can't make the face of the sport someone with more than a few loses. If Sage loes against Mickey Gall I think they will start promoting Mickey Gall more and try to make him a posterboy since he also got the all american jock look with the ridiculous jaw lol.

More dominating performances from Michelle and Mickey. You are right, that big jawed man will be featured in many UFC events in the coming high profile fights. He is a good fighter and has a great future ahead of him.

I am also looking at the UFC rankings right now and I am wondering what is next for the Karate Hottie. A fight versus someone in the top 3 or top 5 in her division will be good as now I am her newest fan. I am very impressed.  


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: mrdeposit on December 18, 2016, 04:01:41 AM
Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt were the poster boys of UFC and they were given a decent push by the company for their looks and fighting ability and both had a loss in their career which dent their plans.Now they are back headlining the show and i hope Paige could win this match,Urijah Faber is my favorite to win the match even though Brad Pickett could knock him out with a punch and the match i am looking for is Sage Northcutt and Mickey Gall , they have their rivalries and egos and let the best man win.
 

I think Paige can still be the face of UFC if she keeps making good performances, but she cannot take many more loses because you can't make the face of the sport someone with more than a few loses. If Sage loes against Mickey Gall I think they will start promoting Mickey Gall more and try to make him a posterboy since he also got the all american jock look with the ridiculous jaw lol.

More dominating performances from Michelle and Mickey. You are right, that big jawed man will be featured in many UFC events in the coming high profile fights. He is a good fighter and has a great future ahead of him.

I am also looking at the UFC rankings right now and I am wondering what is next for the Karate Hottie. A fight versus someone in the top 3 or top 5 in her division will be good as now I am her newest fan. I am very impressed.  

You not the only one impressed and a new fan. I throw a bet on Michelle right before the fight started. :)


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 18, 2016, 06:41:47 AM
So the poster boys and girls of UFC once again failed to live up to the hype and only Connor Mcgregor has the gift of rising to the situation and no wonder he is the champion in two weight classes. Michelle Waterson defeated Paige VanZant via submission and Mickey Gall defeated Sage Northcutt again lost to a submission. Sage was superior in his stand up but as soon as Gall took him down it was the end of story and as expected Faber won his last match in UFC.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: pereira4 on December 18, 2016, 05:58:41 PM
Paige Vanzant got dominated easily by Waterson, she should have searched for more striking opportunities before going on the floor, I think it was a disappointing performance, she can do better, we will see what's next for her, but she must win next time, otherwise she will retire just like Miesha Tate.

Anyone has a Sage vs Mickey link? I didnt get to see that fight.
Edit: whatever I just found one, im gonna see the fight.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 18, 2016, 07:57:09 PM
I was wrong about Mickey Gall ,Sage Northcutt has to improve his ground game as he lost for the second time via submission,he was dominating on the feet but as Mickey Gall took him down and controlled the match till he won .Paige Vanzant lost the match against an all rounded fighter in Michelle Waterson and Faber finished his career with a win.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: vennali on December 18, 2016, 09:27:55 PM
I was wrong about Mickey Gall ,Sage Northcutt has to improve his ground game as he lost for the second time via submission,he was dominating on the feet but as Mickey Gall took him down and controlled the match till he won .Paige Vanzant lost the match against an all rounded fighter in Michelle Waterson and Faber finished his career with a win.

I was expecting Paige Vanzant to win but i have to agree that Waterson did look like a better all round fighter. Mickey Gall has some good ground game and it worked against Northcutt even in this fight I expected Northcutt to win but I'm clearly not getting anything right today.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 18, 2016, 10:25:53 PM
I was expecting Paige Vanzant to win but i have to agree that Waterson did look like a better all round fighter. Mickey Gall has some good ground game and it worked against Northcutt even in this fight I expected Northcutt to win but I'm clearly not getting anything right today.

You should have earned some profit if you did wage a bet on Urijah Faber who was facing Brad Picket and it was a sure shot bet to win and i am sure who ever wagged their bets would be betting for a win for Faber. Sage Northcutt and Paige Vanzant are the type of fighters UFC is looking forward to attract young fans to the sport but with the loss those plans have derailed  :D


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 19, 2016, 02:09:25 AM
Paige Vanzant got dominated easily by Waterson, she should have searched for more striking opportunities before going on the floor, I think it was a disappointing performance, she can do better, we will see what's next for her, but she must win next time, otherwise she will retire just like Miesha Tate.

Anyone has a Sage vs Mickey link? I didnt get to see that fight.
Edit: whatever I just found one, im gonna see the fight.

Paige is very hyped by the UFC. Did you see the top 5 in women's straw weight? They all look really tough and I do not see how Paige can fight her way with those fighters to climb to the top. She will retire or just become a gate keeper in straw weight.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 19, 2016, 11:33:53 PM
Paige is very hyped by the UFC. Did you see the top 5 in women's straw weight? They all look really tough and I do not see how Paige can fight her way with those fighters to climb to the top. She will retire or just become a gate keeper in straw weight.
Paige Van Zant and Sage Northcutt has to learn BJJ if they want to have a bright career and not rush back into the octagon pretty soon,they are really young and need to learn the fight game and polish every aspects of the game before fighting world class fighters. I did not understand why UFC gave Michelle Waterson to Paige as Michelle was a world champion in Invicta FC .


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: pereira4 on December 21, 2016, 05:10:51 PM
I should have put money on Uriajah Faber, I knew that he wouldn't lose for his last fight, but I avoided this event completely. Im saving money to gamble in the Ronda vs Nunes fight, and im still yet trying to guess who is going to win.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 21, 2016, 06:59:01 PM
Totally irrelevant to the actual fight which Waterson impressed in but.....
Is it just me or is Paige Van Zant hot? You wouldn't want to piss her off though ;D
Setiously though I think she's nice.


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: Pattberry on December 21, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
Totally irrelevant to the actual fight which Waterson impressed in but.....
Is it just me or is Paige Van Zant hot? You wouldn't want to piss her off though ;D
Setiously though I think she's nice.
Paige Van Zant is really hot no doubt about that and she has to improve her ground game if she wants to be a top level fighter,Waterson is also a hot women :D sad that Meisa Tate retired from the sport hope she comes back as she was also a hot fighter . :D


Title: Re: UFC on FOX 22: VanZant vs Waterson Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 21, 2016, 07:46:34 PM
Totally irrelevant to the actual fight which Waterson impressed in but.....
Is it just me or is Paige Van Zant hot? You wouldn't want to piss her off though ;D
Setiously though I think she's nice.
Paige Van Zant is really hot no doubt about that and she has to improve her ground game if she wants to be a top level fighter,Waterson is also a hot women :D sad that Meisa Tate retired from the sport hope she comes back as she was also a hot fighter . :D

Looks like we are spoilt for choice in the UFC female gake right now ;D One of those Polish fighters who fought each other was pretty hot too. I can't remember her name.