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Post by: Vladimir on April 09, 2013, 03:49:49 PM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin options on IGMarkets This is bigger than it seems Rubicon is crossed now
Post by: BTC Books on April 09, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100748061612454612677/posts/QfDtgVokA5b

This is BIG!!! This now opens the door to all kinds of financial companies to build up various services on top of Bitcoin. This is because they now can hedge their risk.

I am now waiting for services like Bitcoin Portfolio Loans. Get money at low interest with Bitcoins pledged as collateral. No capital gains tax event!



Holy Mother of God - that'd be sweet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin options on IGMarkets This is bigger than it seems Rubicon is crossed now
Post by: Hfertig on April 09, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
That is just the first CFD provider offering this. I would not be surprised if others will follow. This is big


Title: Re: Bitcoin options on IGMarkets This is bigger than it seems Rubicon is crossed now
Post by: Sage on April 10, 2013, 02:17:10 AM
Is this live yet?

Has anyone done bitcoin trades on this platform yet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin options on IGMarkets This is bigger than it seems Rubicon is crossed now
Post by: Melbustus on April 10, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
Wait a sec... I was tweeting a little earlier today with @DavidJones_IG . His profile says he's "Chief Market Strategist at IG.". Seemed like a decent guy, and he tweeted several times about bitcoin today. It's clear he's interested, but not necessarily convinced that bitcoin is more than a fad yet.



Title: Re: Bitcoin options on IGMarkets This is bigger than it seems Rubicon is crossed now
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on April 10, 2013, 05:08:13 AM
Is this live yet?

Has anyone done bitcoin trades on this platform yet?

... yeah, looks like it's live, doesn't appear to be any trades gone through yet (on UK IG) ... the spreads are huge and doesn't appear to be any stop loss facility enabled for these bets, expire 31-May-13  :o

gonna take some steel balls for anyone to take options on this puppy.  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin options on IGMarkets This is bigger than it seems Rubicon is crossed now
Post by: MPOE-PR on April 10, 2013, 05:33:20 PM
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100748061612454612677/posts/QfDtgVokA5b

This is BIG!!! This now opens the door to all kinds of financial companies to build up various services on top of Bitcoin. This is because they now can hedge their risk.

I am now waiting for services like Bitcoin Portfolio Loans. Get money at low interest with Bitcoins pledged as collateral. No capital gains tax event!

Dude, you peanut gallery folk keep persevering with this sort of inane nonsense.

Let's crosspost from the previous rehash of this, where hazek was announcing as a big deal the fact that somebody got 2k BTC worth of backing for maybe someday opening options:

Heh. MPEx effective leverage (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/options-and-leverage-a-case-study/) was 5.02x over about 500k BTC last month alone. That means traders contributed ~100k BTC of their own capital and traded ~500k BTC.

Compare that with the ~2k BTC this announcement contains:

2,000... very little... tiny... small;
400,000... huge... colossal... magnificent.

Get it? No "to tha moon". To tha treetop. The moon is somewhere else.

Can you let go already? It is done. It has been done for a long, long time. Wall Street is on Bitcoin, and has been, since last year. Not Coinbase, MPEx. Bitcoin derivatives exist, in Bitcoin, and have been around since 2011. Not this new shit, not GLBSE, not Bitcoinica, not MtGox (yes, they "were going to introduce options" back in 2011) and not anyone else. MPEx.

The beneficial effects of price stabilization because of the power of options and the majesty of MPEx are visible already. See here (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/), see here (http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13654259702.png), etc.

I get it, you're personally bitter because you thought you're too good to join during the free beta, after which you thought you're too good to pay 20 BTC worth 4 each, after which you'd have been insulted to have to pay 30 BTC for having been stupid (you?! you're not stupid, you're just alternatively intelligent!!11), and by now that 30 BTC is more than you can afford anyway. This has no bearing, it just means you suck. MPEx isn't something less because it won't have the poor and the stupid, and it is certainly something more because it won't have the stupid who think they're smart and poor by accident.

Get with the program, you're embarassing yourselves more than there's need to.