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Title: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: swastik384 on December 15, 2016, 09:07:28 AM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Lutheriusourexi on December 15, 2016, 09:14:20 AM
in US same very dificult can get GUN
in there same another country is regulated
not easy in there buy in black market


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
How can you not understand? The more you ban legal weapons the more people will be illegal. Are you ready to pay with his life for such calls? Remember once and for all kills not the weapon that kills people.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: kodoll on December 15, 2016, 10:01:22 AM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
Of the country where it is forbidden to possess arms are the leaders in terms of crime. Why do you think that is right to take away the victim's right to protection? Look how many people defended themselves from criminals with weapons. They could all fill the list of victims.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 15, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries.

That is wrong. It is true that it is very difficult to get a license to own firearms in certain countries such as Australia and the United Kingdom. But at the same time, gun ownership is wide spread in certain other nations such as Switzerland and Finland.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: machinek20 on December 15, 2016, 01:41:56 PM
I dont think it is easy to obtain gun in usa, you need to passed the test to get the license, and maybe because US is a liberal country, so the citizen got more freedom, in other country gun is consider as dangerous weapon in US it consider as protection weapon


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: coolcoinz on December 15, 2016, 03:00:35 PM
The States have been a new unexplored world and people were used to carry guns from to protect themselves. Nowadays some states are strict with gun laws and may deny you the right to carry. You may see which states can give you trouble here: http://www.handgunlaw.us/LicMaps/ccwmap.php

In Europe it's completely different. They are trying to deny citizens their right to defend their homes and it's difficult to get a permit. In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Oops on December 15, 2016, 03:03:42 PM
Because many year ago the Americans were giving the privilege to bare arms to fight back against government tyranny. Shame they lost their balls and never used it as was intended and soon there will be total gun control, fuck yeah America!


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Actualiteit on December 15, 2016, 03:32:22 PM
In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Spendulus on December 15, 2016, 03:41:33 PM
In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

:)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Oops on December 15, 2016, 04:01:51 PM
In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

:)

I have to say while reading this it gave me the biggest smile and then a chuckle at the end. How funny lol


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: devthedev on December 15, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
I dont think it is easy to obtain gun in usa, you need to passed the test to get the license, and maybe because US is a liberal country, so the citizen got more freedom, in other country gun is consider as dangerous weapon in US it consider as protection weapon

Based on world-wide statistics, the more guns there are in the hands of responsible users, the less crime there is. If you outlaw guns for responsible citizens, crime will increase. Gun restrictions reduce the ability for citizens to protect themselves, nothing will stop the criminals from obtaining them illegally.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: canah17 on December 15, 2016, 04:12:22 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

For all i know is people in the United states are a very protective country they are afraid in being robbed or terrorist attacks so they can defend their nation even does who are poor in the united states even own a gun they easily sell guns but its legal gun buying but still United States are usually gained immunity i having a gun or watching a guy have a gun and i think they are afraid that they would get really really scared to someone they known as a treat so they will buy guns to ease up the bad persons that they knew or they feel like it United State is one of the most free country that ever lived but i don't really know in russia because even kids their have their own guns to play with to fight Russian country is one scary place to live if your not really into guns and fights >.<


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: darkangel11 on December 15, 2016, 04:20:34 PM
In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

:)
And then they sue you for damages. I read about a burglar who tried to jump over a spiked fence and ended up impaling himself. He sued the owner for not making the fence safe enough. Apparently the spikes have to be placed high enough so they're unreachable from the ground or something  :-\

http://funnypictures4.fjcdn.com/funny_gifs/Cat+burglar_a1f25f_6006349.gif



Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: allthingsluxury on December 15, 2016, 04:24:09 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

A gun itself is not evil, just as a knife is not evil. The user can be evil, but not the inanimate object. I would rather good honest people have guns. Studies prove, in places where the ownership of guns are highest, crimes are lowest.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: criptix on December 15, 2016, 04:31:21 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

A gun itself is not evil, just as a knife is not evil. The user can be evil, but not the inanimate object. I would rather good honest people have guns. Studies prove, in places where the ownership of guns are highest, crimes are lowest.

USA and Somalia - the safest places on earth  ;)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: lafona on December 16, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
They are not actually that easy to get. Where I live there is a two week waiting period for background check unless you have a permit(which requires the same check to have already happened, in addition to a class and registering at various police stations).


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: MisO69 on December 16, 2016, 03:48:09 PM
In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

:)

Burglars are almost the same as fertilizer in some instances.



Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on December 16, 2016, 04:03:39 PM
In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

:)

Burglars are almost the same as fertilizer in some instances.



In addition, if we had truly just laws, and the burglar was caught, the person robbed would have the right to prescribe any kind of punishment that he desired, right up to and including the death penalty.

8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2016, 02:30:29 PM
Studies prove, in places where the ownership of guns are highest, crimes are lowest.

I don't think that I could agree with that post. Normally, gun ownership is higher where the crime rates are also high. If the crime rates are low, then there is no need to purchase firearms (that said, in some of the US states such as Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire, the gun ownership is extremely high despite the very low crime rates).


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on December 19, 2016, 03:13:26 PM
Americans know how to make their own guns and ammo. There are books about it all over the place.

8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2016, 05:16:49 PM
Americans know how to make their own guns and ammo. There are books about it all over the place.

8)

Americans are very serious about their gun ownership, unlike those brainwashed sheeple in Germany and the United Kingdom. You can't take the guns and bibles away from the Americans.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Spendulus on December 20, 2016, 01:29:10 AM
Americans know how to make their own guns and ammo. There are books about it all over the place.

8)

Americans are very serious about their gun ownership, unlike those brainwashed sheeple in Germany and the United Kingdom. You can't take the guns and bibles away from the Americans.

Hillary would have done her best to take them away.

She would have stuffed the Supreme Court and they would have re interpreted the 2nd amendment however she told them to.  Then gun ownership would have been severely restricted.

However, the fact that she was trounced in the election says something of what people thought of her and her ideas.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Chin Cheng on December 20, 2016, 06:56:29 AM
Because many year ago the Americans were giving the privilege to bare arms to fight back against government tyranny. Shame they lost their balls and never used it as was intended and soon there will be total gun control, fuck yeah America!
Till now there is no control over public sale of guns in America,everyone can have a gun without any license i guess i am not sure about that but the market is filled with illegal fire arms so it is quite easy to acquire one if you have the cash.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on December 20, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
Because many year ago the Americans were giving the privilege to bare arms to fight back against government tyranny. Shame they lost their balls and never used it as was intended and soon there will be total gun control, fuck yeah America!
Till now there is no control over public sale of guns in America,everyone can have a gun without any license i guess i am not sure about that but the market is filled with illegal fire arms so it is quite easy to acquire one if you have the cash.

In America, things that are illegal and things that are legal, are both UNLAWFUL if they take away the freedom of people to do anything they want, when no harm, damage or injury has been done.

8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 20, 2016, 12:01:28 PM
Americans know how to make their own guns and ammo. There are books about it all over the place.

8)

Americans are very serious about their gun ownership, unlike those brainwashed sheeple in Germany and the United Kingdom. You can't take the guns and bibles away from the Americans.

Hillary would have done her best to take them away.

She would have stuffed the Supreme Court and they would have re interpreted the 2nd amendment however she told them to.  Then gun ownership would have been severely restricted.

However, the fact that she was trounced in the election says something of what people thought of her and her ideas.

SCOTUS was one of the main reasons why she was defeated. During the past few years, the liberal bulldogs in the SCOTUS (Ginsberg, Breyer, Kagan, Sotomayor.etc) have tried to impose their extreme-leftist ideology on top of the American public. The SCOTUS is just a bunch of individuals. They don't have the power to over-rule the American constitution. While making the judgement, the panel members must remember this.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: mr.bitcoinerf11 on December 20, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
cuz us is the most open country to anything lol
drugs sex guns warshipdemon :-X
all of this things so,you can own guns only to defend your self from bitches


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: CryptoWiz420 on December 20, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
Americans know how to make their own guns and ammo. There are books about it all over the place.

8)

Americans are very serious about their gun ownership, unlike those brainwashed sheeple in Germany and the United Kingdom. You can't take the guns and bibles away from the Americans.

Hillary would have done her best to take them away.

She would have stuffed the Supreme Court and they would have re interpreted the 2nd amendment however she told them to.  Then gun ownership would have been severely restricted.

However, the fact that she was trounced in the election says something of what people thought of her and her ideas.

While I do not like Hillary at all, this is complete and utter bullshit lol she was not going to take away guns. Also, its not her IDEAS people dont like, its the fact that most people think shes a criminal.. but hey, so is Dumpster Trumpster!


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: CryptoWiz420 on December 20, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
I dont think it is easy to obtain gun in usa, you need to passed the test to get the license, and maybe because US is a liberal country, so the citizen got more freedom, in other country gun is consider as dangerous weapon in US it consider as protection weapon

It very easy in USA if u are not a criminal.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 20, 2016, 02:14:31 PM
I dont think it is easy to obtain gun in usa, you need to passed the test to get the license, and maybe because US is a liberal country, so the citizen got more freedom, in other country gun is consider as dangerous weapon in US it consider as protection weapon

It very easy in USA if u are not a criminal.

In the United States, gun ownership laws vary from state to state. In some regions, the laws vary from city to city as well. Some states and cities are very liberal as far as gun ownership is concerned, such as Alaska.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: iamTom123 on December 20, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
I believe that it is considered the right of a citizen to buy a gun for protection especially at home. Now, of course, this can be debatable and for now there is no clear-cut verdict on this topic. Actually, the gun is just a tool and as proven in many incidents you don't need a gun to kill people...you can use a truck to bulldoze innocent lives on the street.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Daniel91 on December 20, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

You have to understand some facts here.
In American constitution all citizens have right to have guns, in order to protect themselves.
It's in their tradition and culture also that average people can have guns, without any limits.
Of course, in America is also a lot violence and people are scared.
It's very complex issue really.
Ask yourself, who profit most from gun culture in America?


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Kvazimoda on December 20, 2016, 04:20:31 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

You have to understand some facts here.
In American constitution all citizens have right to have guns, in order to protect themselves.
It's in their tradition and culture also that average people can have guns, without any limits.
Of course, in America is also a lot violence and people are scared.
It's very complex issue really.
Ask yourself, who profit most from gun culture in America?

Why is everyone saying that in America you were to own a gun? This is not in any country of the world and America is no exception. If we were to examine the statistics of crimes with legal weapons, then it is negligible.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on December 20, 2016, 06:28:01 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

You have to understand some facts here.
In American constitution all citizens have right to have guns, in order to protect themselves.
It's in their tradition and culture also that average people can have guns, without any limits.
Of course, in America is also a lot violence and people are scared.
It's very complex issue really.
Ask yourself, who profit most from gun culture in America?


Gun manufacturers.

8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: daiyuba1971 on December 20, 2016, 07:04:01 PM
I believe that it is considered the right of a citizen to buy a gun for protection especially at home. Now, of course, this can be debatable and for now there is no clear-cut verdict on this topic. Actually, the gun is just a tool and as proven in many incidents you don't need a gun to kill people...you can use a truck to bulldoze innocent lives on the street.
I can't understand why you think that a man who goes with a gun on the streets is dangerous? Are you afraid of the police? Weapon in good hands is not a danger and protection. Remember that!


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Leprikon on December 21, 2016, 08:23:51 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
You in vain are afraid of the word gun. You're not afraid of soldiers with guns. You know that their job is to protect you and you trust them. It's the same gun. It is designed for your protection and the protection of others.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: camarasikhou1945 on December 22, 2016, 06:14:53 AM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

First, you need to see that the gun is a fundamental part of the culture and heritage of political traditions of the United States since its early days. They profit from the sale of arms to countries war!
The second in the US constitution provides for the right to own weapons. Thus, ownership of guns is considered a fundamental right of American citizens  8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: sergeyzol on December 22, 2016, 02:09:27 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D

First, you need to see that the gun is a fundamental part of the culture and heritage of political traditions of the United States since its early days. They profit from the sale of arms to countries war!
The second in the US constitution provides for the right to own weapons. Thus, ownership of guns is considered a fundamental right of American citizens  8) 8) 8)

I do think that the weapon is a symbol of democracy. If the state is truly democratic it trusts its citizens and cannot afford to deprive citizens of the right to protection of his life.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: novemberwoah on December 22, 2016, 03:29:45 PM
Yes in the US bought guns as easily as buying beans, very easy. Which makes the free purchase guns in the US because it aims for citizens to protect themselves. Actually, US has regulations governing guns ownership. Those who had a criminal record, bad behavior, drug addicts, mental disorders or perpetrators of domestic violence in the US law is not allowed to have guns. Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Oppolee on December 22, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
Yes in the US bought guns as easily as buying beans, very easy. Which makes the free purchase guns in the US because it aims for citizens to protect themselves. Actually, US has regulations governing guns ownership. Those who had a criminal record, bad behavior, drug addicts, mental disorders or perpetrators of domestic violence in the US law is not allowed to have guns. Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.
The assertion that in America it is easy to acquire weapons is very conditional. This thesis is used by those who are against weapons in other countries. For me it is not an indicator. Where are the statistics? Who knows how many people saved their lives by using legal weapons?


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 22, 2016, 05:07:14 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: v1ryspro on December 22, 2016, 08:09:01 PM
Yes in the US bought guns as easily as buying beans, very easy. Which makes the free purchase guns in the US because it aims for citizens to protect themselves. Actually, US has regulations governing guns ownership. Those who had a criminal record, bad behavior, drug addicts, mental disorders or perpetrators of domestic violence in the US law is not allowed to have guns. Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.
What's the difference what to buy? Why not buy weapons on the Internet? We immediately see that you are from a country where the government is afraid to trust citizens with weapons. Even if you bought weapons on the Internet, you will deliver it only after checking your data and personally.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: novemberwoah on December 23, 2016, 01:23:13 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Karloff on December 23, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.
Most likely it is not a problem of method of sale of weapons. This is the problem of efficiency check of applicants for the purchase of weapons. Man lives in society, and you can always find out if he has mental problems. It is difficult to hide.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BitcoinPicasso on December 23, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
If your buying guns you should have to pass a mental sanity test as well. Some people never commit crimes until they go out and decide to massacre a movie theater full of people.



Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Mometaskers on December 23, 2016, 04:25:42 PM
As a non-American it also baffles me. Was really surprised when I read it's available in places like Walmart. I understand that it stems from their frontier culture and that gun ownership is a crime deterrent but as we've seen from numerous school shootings, something has to be changed to make it safe for everyone.


In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

:)
And then they sue you for damages. I read about a burglar who tried to jump over a spiked fence and ended up impaling himself. He sued the owner for not making the fence safe enough. Apparently the spikes have to be placed high enough so they're unreachable from the ground or something  :-\

http://funnypictures4.fjcdn.com/funny_gifs/Cat+burglar_a1f25f_6006349.gif



I can't remember if I laughed or facepalmed when I saw that in the news but certainly I exclaimed "Only in the West". This is as ridiculous as an Italian court deciding that stealing is not a crime provided you have the right reason.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 04:30:33 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.

There are always loopholes in the existing regulations. But banning the sale of fire-arms and ammunition is not the solution. If such a measure is implemented, then people will resort to street gangs for the purchase of guns.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Perle on December 23, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
If your buying guns you should have to pass a mental sanity test as well. Some people never commit crimes until they go out and decide to massacre a movie theater full of people.


You simplify everything. Of course every criminal commits ever the crime for the first time. Only it does not mean that it is impossible to determine its inclination in advance. It lives where it works. You can't see a problem with the head? Work special services should be well and not to invent excuses.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Kotone on December 23, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
Is this serious i think those people had liciense to curry out gun black man always curry a gun for there self defence because some of them had enemy i guess that's why im very thankful that here in my country gun is banned and they will arrest you if they caught you having it.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: PetroffVany on December 23, 2016, 08:38:28 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
Is this serious i think those people had liciense to curry out gun black man always curry a gun for there self defence because some of them had enemy i guess that's why im very thankful that here in my country gun is banned and they will arrest you if they caught you having it.
Never the threat of arrest for illegal possession of weapons didn't stop people from wanting to own a gun. In my country, everyone who goes through the streets with a gun carries a statement to the police that she found a gun and wants to call the police.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: novemberwoah on December 24, 2016, 06:50:00 AM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.

There are always loopholes in the existing regulations. But banning the sale of fire-arms and ammunition is not the solution. If such a measure is implemented, then people will resort to street gangs for the purchase of guns.
Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 24, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.

The argument is that the burglars will get the guns anyway, from the gangsters and smugglers. So if the shop owners are not allowed to have guns, then they will be just sitting ducks. Even the cops are now afraid to confront the criminals. The Black lives matter, and other organizations have campaigned against the cops so much that now they are mostly ignoring the violent crimes.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: pseexh on December 24, 2016, 06:41:06 PM
Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.

The argument is that the burglars will get the guns anyway, from the gangsters and smugglers. So if the shop owners are not allowed to have guns, then they will be just sitting ducks. Even the cops are now afraid to confront the criminals. The Black lives matter, and other organizations have campaigned against the cops so much that now they are mostly ignoring the violent crimes.
The offender will never go on the offense if he was aware that behind him, can always see several people with weapons. And the victim can use weapons for their self defense.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: novemberwoah on December 25, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.

The argument is that the burglars will get the guns anyway, from the gangsters and smugglers. So if the shop owners are not allowed to have guns, then they will be just sitting ducks. Even the cops are now afraid to confront the criminals. The Black lives matter, and other organizations have campaigned against the cops so much that now they are mostly ignoring the violent crimes.
The offender will never go on the offense if he was aware that behind him, can always see several people with weapons. And the victim can use weapons for their self defense.
Yes indeed granting freedom of citizens to own a gun has positive and negative sides. The positive can be used for self defense, but the negative is very patient to be abused. The rules should be tightened in US so that such cases of abuse of gun previous can be avoided. And the police should increase the security of the citizens to have feel safe. Indeed, in US gangster is very large and a lot, I've seen a video that shows a shopkeeper was attacked a few gangsters and defended themselves with guns that he put in a drawer near him.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sponsoredby15 on December 25, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
US is one of our supplier of guns they can easily delivered gun in our country but our president don't want them do delivered guns anymore his oredering not to claim any of there guns even its cheaper if they can easily get gun in us then anyone can get that gun and then can easily kill people too.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: JakaE on December 25, 2016, 10:41:48 AM
¨Why truck is easily available in EU?¨

Now see why? Because by banning guns you are punishing owners before they even do anything wrong with them.
You don't punish a guy for buying a car, you punish him after he is responsible for an accident when driving drunk for example.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 25, 2016, 02:39:19 PM
¨Why truck is easily available in EU?¨

Now see why? Because by banning guns you are punishing owners before they even do anything wrong with them.
You don't punish a guy for buying a car, you punish him after he is responsible for an accident when driving drunk for example.

Already the EU legislators are considering a ban on "dangerous appliances" such as screwdrivers and hammers. Next, they will be banning the shaving scissors and razors. These measures are not going to help. If they want to prevent the terrorist incidents, then they should secure the borders first.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: begau on December 25, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Depends on where you live. In Pennsylvania, it is extremely easy. There are very few limitations on getting a gun or a permit to carry one.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
¨Why truck is easily available in EU?¨

Now see why? Because by banning guns you are punishing owners before they even do anything wrong with them.
You don't punish a guy for buying a car, you punish him after he is responsible for an accident when driving drunk for example.

Already the EU legislators are considering a ban on "dangerous appliances" such as screwdrivers and hammers. Next, they will be banning the shaving scissors and razors. These measures are not going to help. If they want to prevent the terrorist incidents, then they should secure the borders first.

I say, build complex robots, that are safe from becoming rogue AI. These robots would have to be able to do literally everything that people can do, and more.

Then place literally 100% of the people into strait-jackets, and let the robots do everything for them... even feed them and wipe their bottoms.

Women could be fertilized artificially, and kids would be placed into strait-jackets at birth. Nobody would be able to harm anyone else this way.

 ;D


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 25, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Depends on where you live. In Pennsylvania, it is extremely easy. There are very few limitations on getting a gun or a permit to carry one.

Here are some of the regulations in Pennsylvania regarding gun ownership.

1. All handgun buyers in the state must undergo a PICS check at the point of sale.
2. License to Carry Firearms issued on a "shall-issue" basis.
3. Open-carry prohibited in the city of Philadelphia.
4. All private party transfers of handguns must be processed through a licensed dealer

As you can see, enough regulations are in place to prevent abuse of gun ownership.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 08:18:52 PM
Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Depends on where you live. In Pennsylvania, it is extremely easy. There are very few limitations on getting a gun or a permit to carry one.

Here are some of the regulations in Pennsylvania regarding gun ownership.

1. All handgun buyers in the state must undergo a PICS check at the point of sale.
2. License to Carry Firearms issued on a "shall-issue" basis.
3. Open-carry prohibited in the city of Philadelphia.
4. All private party transfers of handguns must be processed through a licensed dealer

As you can see, enough regulations are in place to prevent abuse of gun ownership.


Are private residences and private land that is inside the territorial borders of Pennsylvania, really in Pennsylvania?

The land and places that Pennsylvania has authority over are public lands. The people on their own private lands are not subject to these Pennsylvania laws.

The people may not know how to fight it in court if public officials try to accuse them of a crime on their own property. But if they knew how things worked, they could beat the State every time.

It's the same with smoking pot... in any State. If it is private property, and the pot is locked up so that a thief can't access it, the State has no authority. However, if the State usurps its authority, and the people are ignorant about how to fight it, the State will win, even though it acts illegally and criminally against the people within its territorial borders.

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Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: yellow1 on March 30, 2017, 03:15:16 PM
Because they are not strictly to carry a gun and can purchase easily.Legal to carry a fire arms so that it will defend their self in criminals and bad person,so there is always an available.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on March 30, 2017, 03:28:45 PM
Because they are not strictly to carry a gun and can purchase easily.Legal to carry a fire arms so that it will defend their self in criminals and bad person,so there is always an available.

Or... https://ghostgunner.net/.    8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: StefanReed on March 30, 2017, 03:36:17 PM
Because they are not strictly to carry a gun and can purchase easily.Legal to carry a fire arms so that it will defend their self in criminals and bad person,so there is always an available.

Or... https://ghostgunner.net/.    8)
I would not trust such advertising. To make for example the barrel need special steel. Where are you going to take? For durability and anti-corrosion often inside chrome plated. All of this at home will not do. Using this machine can only make some parts for weapons. Made so the weapons can break in your hands.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Mitcsell on March 30, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
How can you not understand? The more you ban legal weapons the more people will be illegal. Are you ready to pay with his life for such calls? Remember once and for all kills not the weapon that kills people.

I agree. In every country there are black markets for the sale of weapons and sell it often to people with unbalanced psyche for the implementation of their bad plans. People always want something forbidden and adrenaline.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 30, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Studies prove, in places where the ownership of guns are highest, crimes are lowest.

I don't think that I could agree with that post. Normally, gun ownership is higher where the crime rates are also high. If the crime rates are low, then there is no need to purchase firearms (that said, in some of the US states such as Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire, the gun ownership is extremely high despite the very low crime rates).

That is quite a speculation on your part, Sithara.

It might be, that prevention (or gun carry in this case) is cultural  ;) in Germany you will get fined for carrying pepper spray, despite ever increasing crime rates, the laws dealing with personal defense did not change at all.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Daniel91 on March 30, 2017, 04:03:48 PM
In order to answer this question, you should understand American history, culture and tradition.
100-200 years ago America was wildness and everybody had guns in order to protect themselves.
It was way of life, as you can see in American movies.
Even American constitution confirm such right, that all citizens can have guns.
In this way, America is really very unique country.
Of course, because of it, there are a lot criminal and violence in American society.
Because of this people are even more scared and buying more guns and this circle never ends :)

 



Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Lacander on March 30, 2017, 06:32:14 PM
In order to answer this question, you should understand American history, cučture and tradition.
100-200 years ago America was wildness and everybody had guns in order to protect themselves.
It was way of life, as you can see in American movies.
Even American constitution confirm such right, that all citizens can have guns.
In this way, America is really very unique country.
Of course, because of it, there are a lot criminal and violence in American society.
Because of this people are even more scared and buying more guns and this circle never ends :)

 


Here I completely agree with you. Historically, it so happened that an American citizen was always armed and had the free right to own weapons. Of course, this is strongly influenced by the mentality, because not every people can cope with this perfectly.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: yoseph on March 30, 2017, 06:43:54 PM
The USA have discovered Human Nature, the more you decline to give humans access to something, the more they crave it. By making it so easily accessible for people to get access to weaponry. Less and less people are getting the guns. I am sure this is the same thing that will happen with marijuana. Its so easily obtainable and soon not many people will crave it as they do now.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Kemarit on April 02, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
In order to answer this question, you should understand American history, cučture and tradition.
100-200 years ago America was wildness and everybody had guns in order to protect themselves.
It was way of life, as you can see in American movies.
Even American constitution confirm such right, that all citizens can have guns.
In this way, America is really very unique country.
Of course, because of it, there are a lot criminal and violence in American society.
Because of this people are even more scared and buying more guns and this circle never ends :)

Partly I agree with you, If you look at American history, specially after it won its independence from Great Britain, American. They created Bill of Rights and on of them is the right of people to keep and bear arms. But you also have to understand the reason why they put it in place. It was there because the thinking at that time is that everyone can keep and bear arms and can organize together to overthrow any leaders who seems to abuse its power and who often uses that power in cruel and unfair ways.

So if Americans wanted to really restrict gun ownership, it wouldn’t simply have to get Congress to pass a law - it would have to persuade all of the individual states to agree to the change too.Which I think would be very difficult to do now.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Daniel91 on April 02, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
In order to answer this question, you should understand American history, cučture and tradition.
100-200 years ago America was wildness and everybody had guns in order to protect themselves.
It was way of life, as you can see in American movies.
Even American constitution confirm such right, that all citizens can have guns.
In this way, America is really very unique country.
Of course, because of it, there are a lot criminal and violence in American society.
Because of this people are even more scared and buying more guns and this circle never ends :)

Partly I agree with you, If you look at American history, specially after it won its independence from Great Britain, American. They created Bill of Rights and on of them is the right of people to keep and bear arms. But you also have to understand the reason why they put it in place. It was there because the thinking at that time is that everyone can keep and bear arms and can organize together to overthrow any leaders who seems to abuse its power and who often uses that power in cruel and unfair ways.

So if Americans wanted to really restrict gun ownership, it wouldn’t simply have to get Congress to pass a law - it would have to persuade all of the individual states to agree to the change too.Which I think would be very difficult to do now.

I agree with you.
It's very difficult and complex issue.
President Obama tried to change it but couldn't.
To have guns is already way of life for the many people in America, and they feel it's their constitutional right.
Now, with president Trump I don't think that we will see any real changes regarding gun policy.
I hope that at least they will be able to restrict access to guns to young adults, violent or mentally ill people.
It will be progress already if they can achieve it in the near future :)




Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on April 02, 2017, 01:58:23 PM
The USA have discovered Human Nature, the more you decline to give humans access to something, the more they crave it. By making it so easily accessible for people to get access to weaponry. Less and less people are getting the guns. I am sure this is the same thing that will happen with marijuana. Its so easily obtainable and soon not many people will crave it as they do now.
This is the weakness of human rights. because of personal interest, everyone has rights. and these rights must be respected.
This is one point which could facilitate easier access of US society weaponry, either illegally or legally.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Barrymore on April 02, 2017, 02:26:31 PM
In order to answer this question, you should understand American history, cučture and tradition.
100-200 years ago America was wildness and everybody had guns in order to protect themselves.
It was way of life, as you can see in American movies.
Even American constitution confirm such right, that all citizens can have guns.
In this way, America is really very unique country.
Of course, because of it, there are a lot criminal and violence in American society.
Because of this people are even more scared and buying more guns and this circle never ends :)

Partly I agree with you, If you look at American history, specially after it won its independence from Great Britain, American. They created Bill of Rights and on of them is the right of people to keep and bear arms. But you also have to understand the reason why they put it in place. It was there because the thinking at that time is that everyone can keep and bear arms and can organize together to overthrow any leaders who seems to abuse its power and who often uses that power in cruel and unfair ways.

So if Americans wanted to really restrict gun ownership, it wouldn’t simply have to get Congress to pass a law - it would have to persuade all of the individual states to agree to the change too.Which I think would be very difficult to do now.

I agree with you.
It's very difficult and complex issue.
President Obama tried to change it but couldn't.
To have guns is already way of life for the many people in America, and they feel it's their constitutional right.
Now, with president Trump I don't think that we will see any real changes regarding gun policy.
I hope that at least they will be able to restrict access to guns to young adults, violent or mentally ill people.
It will be progress already if they can achieve it in the near future :)



Actually you have a choice between legal and illegal circulation of weapons. Know the law of conservation of energy and Newton? So reducing the number of legal weapons you increase the number of illegal. Do you want it? I believe that it is impossible to limit the circulation of legal weapons. You don't have the statistics of how many people were killed by legal guns and how many people saved his life. Then what are we talking about? Once again you are listening to populists!


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: bra4our on April 02, 2017, 03:51:16 PM
Its mostly the illegal weapons thats used to cause all the crimes. No one in their right mind would actually purchase a gun legally and use it to commit a crime when they know it can be traced right back at them.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on April 02, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
In order to answer this question, you should understand American history, cučture and tradition.
100-200 years ago America was wildness and everybody had guns in order to protect themselves.
It was way of life, as you can see in American movies.
Even American constitution confirm such right, that all citizens can have guns.
In this way, America is really very unique country.
Of course, because of it, there are a lot criminal and violence in American society.
Because of this people are even more scared and buying more guns and this circle never ends :)

Partly I agree with you, If you look at American history, specially after it won its independence from Great Britain, American. They created Bill of Rights and on of them is the right of people to keep and bear arms. But you also have to understand the reason why they put it in place. It was there because the thinking at that time is that everyone can keep and bear arms and can organize together to overthrow any leaders who seems to abuse its power and who often uses that power in cruel and unfair ways.

So if Americans wanted to really restrict gun ownership, it wouldn’t simply have to get Congress to pass a law - it would have to persuade all of the individual states to agree to the change too.Which I think would be very difficult to do now.
I agree with you.
It's very difficult and complex issue.
President Obama tried to change it but couldn't.
To have guns is already way of life for the many people in America, and they feel it's their constitutional right.
Now, with president Trump I don't think that we will see any real changes regarding gun policy.
I hope that at least they will be able to restrict access to guns to young adults, violent or mentally ill people.
It will be progress already if they can achieve it in the near future :)



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Are you stupid? they already do that. Furthermore it would be very stupid to take the guns from citizens whom legally bought them. This will not only costs america several billions, but will also increase the liquidity of black markets, cartels trading weapons, etcetera.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: darkseid1199 on April 02, 2017, 04:14:00 PM
One thing i have noticed in Human nature is the more you want to restrict them access to something thats when they want to acquire that thing even more. So making it easier for people to buy guns makes sure its not illegally acquired for nefarious purposes.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Idrisu on April 02, 2017, 05:13:12 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
In my country carrying gun is an offence against the state except government approval forces. Think about what is in mind of those who approved legalized the used of gun in their countries always amazing me. The best society is were there is no crimes, we do not have that society yet, we would have that type of society one day. Gun is not a solution to crime.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Spendulus on April 02, 2017, 06:27:33 PM
It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  ;D
In my country carrying gun is an offence against the state except government approval forces. Think about what is in mind of those who approved legalized the used of gun in their countries always amazing me. The best society is were there is no crimes, we do not have that society yet, we would have that type of society one day. Gun is not a solution to crime.

All liberals and progressives in favor of gun control should thank Trump.  Since he took office gun sales are way, way down. When the wanna be fascist controller Obama was in power AR15 sales skyrocketed making many rich. Even 22LR bullets went up in price 5x. Now these sit on shelves and nobody cares!

hillary would have kept the boom in gun and bullet sales going!


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: darkseid1199 on April 02, 2017, 06:47:34 PM
The Liberals are mostly concerned about making money. Look at Obama a Nobel Peace Prize recipient but he dropped as many as Hitler himself all in the name of fighting terrorism.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on April 02, 2017, 07:57:44 PM
The gun is easily available in the U.S., because many people know how to make guns. The materials are available. The people want guns. That's why there are many guns in the U.S.  The people want them, and they make them.

8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: StefanReed on April 02, 2017, 08:02:26 PM
The gun is easily available in the U.S., because many people know how to make guns. The materials are available. The people want guns. That's why there are many guns in the U.S.  The people want them, and they make them.

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If really so easy to make a weapon for everyone (I disagree) then what is the point to restrict legal weapons? Is it possible to restrict the ability of people to protect their lives from illegal weapons?


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: BADecker on April 02, 2017, 08:14:25 PM
The gun is easily available in the U.S., because many people know how to make guns. The materials are available. The people want guns. That's why there are many guns in the U.S.  The people want them, and they make them.

8)
If really so easy to make a weapon for everyone (I disagree) then what is the point to restrict legal weapons? Is it possible to restrict the ability of people to protect their lives from illegal weapons?

Government wants to restrict guns so that they can make slaves of the people. This is not an easy thing to do. In the past, Government did a lot of advertising against guns. Within the last 20 years (and longer) Government actually does the terrorist activities in America, just to scare people into not wanting guns.

It is backfiring on them. People want more and more guns all the time because of the terrorism that Government is doing.

8)


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: coolcoinz on April 02, 2017, 08:46:34 PM
I wish it was as easy in Europe. Americans are strange. They have so many rights and freedoms, but they never stop complaining that they need more. They can carry guns in the street and have like 100 guns per 100 citizens. In Europe when you have 50/100 it's actually great and the country must have really modern laws for that to be possible. Most Europeans never shot a gun in their lives and have no clue how to use one and protect themselves. Believe it or not but some EU countries have less than 10 guns per 100 citizens!


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: yoseph on April 02, 2017, 08:50:54 PM
If i was an American, there is no way i will carry guns in the street. People are being shot and killed by the very law enforcement agency thats meant to protect them.


Title: Re: Why gun is easily available in US?
Post by: Lancusters on April 02, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
If i was an American, there is no way i will carry guns in the street. People are being shot and killed by the very law enforcement agency thats meant to protect them.
This position is a coward. You think that it is possible for every person to demand police orany? It is not possible. The cops will come after you get killed. The only chance to survive is to defend oneself. For this you need weapons. Even if you need your gun once in your life, you should wear it every day.