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http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/mutual-funds/articles/2013/04/04/irs-high-tech-tools-track-your-digital-footprints_print.html

USSA... the land of the free.

What's it gonna take for the lemmings to see the writing on the wall?

For those less cognitively challenged, get out while you still can.

Not going to find any of my money...




Because i don't live in USA.

Sorry my friend, not the case if you were born on US soil.  They have information sharing agreements with most nations currently.

Only way out is to do biz in gold, silver, platinum, and cryptos, and/or renunciate your citizenship.  Which will likely get harder and harder to do.  

Get your second passport now while there are still options.

That's obscene ... how long until leaks about how this information is being traded on the black market for the goons self-enrichment?

So much for privacy ... oh wait they are catching the "terrorists", uh-huh .... fall for that one did ya?, idiots.

Non-tech person here.  How do you prevent this from happening to you?

Excellent time to be a tax attorney I should think.

Wow how long until browsing the internet on a fully encrypted VPN'd Bitcoin'd system becomes the norm to take away the opportunity of anyone seeing what you're doing?

So fully encrypted VPN (Bitcoin funded) is the answer.?

Everyone has TOR installed, right?

probably costs more to do spying of the entire population than any taxes they will recover

Haha +1

I was thinking the same thing. How much are they spending on all this tech & spying?

I'm usually on a VPN while doing any of my bitcoin transactions. I'd like to think anyone who cares about their security would be/is doing the same.

I very much doubt the CIA/FBI/IRS can track the breakfast in their colon let alone catch anyone who isn't a complete fool.

dont be born an indentured servant to the USA

Yea, they like to retardedly move backwards with things that really make you angry or that don't make any sense or logic.

Example1: "IRS to track your digital foot-prints"
Example2: http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013/16902/indiana-lawmakers-still-looking-to-felonize-marijuana-possession/

The people that run this country are literally fucking retarded. I don't even know how it is lasting this long, so far.

Gotta agree here. It makes sense from a systems point of view what is happening here as well. The more they increase bureaucracy, tracking, monitoring, control the more unwieldly, unreliable and corrupted the whole apparatus becomes and the more they have to try to patch it up with bureaucracy, tracking, monitoring, control ... they are in a death spiral of increasing State control that can only led to more State control of everything until there is outright facism or totalitarian socialism and collapse.

The only way out of the death spiral of an increasing bloated, ineffective State requiring more bloated, ineffective State to fix it up is to release control completely. Devolve the power back to people, deconstruct the tracking, monitoring, control apparatus and collapse the State back to 5%-10% of economy (or less) and try to a maintain it there as long as possible to prevent the complexity death spiral from beginning again.

It's free. They just borrow the money from China.

We're not as free as we should be, big government is a horrible disease, but America is still a great place and we are still very free comparatively. That being said, the government should read this document I read once: It's called the Constitution.

I hear the "Constitution" being brought up more and more in a way that almost makes it sound like a slur these days.  Usually tossed in with Neocon, or Libtard or all of the other names tossed back & forth across the isle.  "Oh, you're one of those 'Constitution' people."

I don't remember where I read it or I would credit it better, but it said something like "don't worry, your party too will at some point, again, have the opportunity to continue to fuck up the country."  That it wasn't pointed at any particular party made it all the more poignant to me.

The government just doesn't know when to quit! People want financial freedom.

http://www.gnucash.org/

Keep trrack of absolutely everything and render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's.

If you owe taxes for [bitcoin-related] income then you have a business with expense deducations to go along with that  income tax obligation. Take full advantage. Part of your mortgage/rent, utilities, conveyance payments or mileage, home office space, office and mining equipment, software, mining farm space, etc...

People only have the power you allow them to have.

That is not the reality. They take it by force and throw you in a cage, and if you resist, they murder you.

Be realistic.

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Gotta agree here. It makes sense from a systems point of view what is happening here as well. The more they increase bureaucracy, tracking, monitoring, control the more unwieldly, unreliable and corrupted the whole apparatus becomes and the more they have to try to patch it up with bureaucracy, tracking, monitoring, control ... they are in a death spiral of increasing State control that can only led to more State control of everything until there is outright facism or totalitarian socialism and collapse.

The only way out of the death spiral of an increasing bloated, ineffective State requiring more bloated, ineffective State to fix it up is to release control completely. Devolve the power back to people, deconstruct the tracking, monitoring, control apparatus and collapse the State back to 5%-10% of economy (or less) and try to a maintain it there as long as possible to prevent the complexity death spiral from beginning again.
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Hate to break it to you but once a person or entity takes a higher level of control, they don't give it back.

True, they just rape then murder you, no matter. Their motto is ask questions later. I hope they "US Govt." reads this entire thread to see how stupid they've really become. I don't even want to acknowledge most of the dumb shit they pull, but we must and we do, to see their stupidity.