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Title: Transaction disappeared
Post by: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:18:38 AM
hi,
 someone sent me money on 2016-12-16,  at this date i saw transaction as Unconfirmed
 but until now(2016-12-18) i received nothing and transation desapeared on the sender blockchain  history
 i also dont have  transaction id
 can you help me about what happened ?

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 07:23:07 AM
It probably got dropped by the network.
If you don't have the tx id then post the address(es).

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: shorena on December 18, 2016, 07:29:41 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:18:38 AM
hi,
 someone sent me money on 2016-12-16,  at this date i saw transaction as Unconfirmed
 but until now(2016-12-18) i received nothing and transation desapeared on the sender blockchain  history
 i also dont have  transaction id
 can you help me about what happened ?

Who? Someone you know and trust, someone you had a deal with, a service?

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
yeah , someone i know
his adress is 19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK
mine is 35z7McoCcBa5wDL3u477Mqe1X8SCthdZLr

and today he sent me $0.1 just for testing
 here the 2nd transaction
https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ce90144d5292f22f2c9a9616b1cad53072d6e841c019283e80344c6fc0fe9116
and this one is unconfirmed until now

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: shorena on December 18, 2016, 07:38:54 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
yeah , someone i know
his adress is 19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK
mine is 35z7McoCcBa5wDL3u477Mqe1X8SCthdZLr

The transaction is here (A) -> https://blockchain.info/tx/ce90144d5292f22f2c9a9616b1cad53072d6e841c019283e80344c6fc0fe9116

its unconfirmed because this (B) -> https://blockchain.info/tx/1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56

must confirm first, but its a double spend attempt here (C) -> https://blockchain.info/tx/cb2c291a8c083882c3a0eb2f43bf20c1cdba9e771ac6bb952fc200d4b274b679

A can only confirm if B is confirmed. Should C get confirmed, B and A will become invalid.

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 07:42:48 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
yeah , someone i know
his adress is 19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK
mine is 35z7McoCcBa5wDL3u477Mqe1X8SCthdZLr

and today he sent me $0.1 just for testing
 here the 2nd transaction
https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ce90144d5292f22f2c9a9616b1cad53072d6e841c019283e80344c6fc0fe9116
and this one is unconfirmed until now

Tell him to send the bitcoins again. There's no trace of unconfirmed transactions between those addresses other than the one you posted so we can't help you much.
If the transaction disappeared from his wallet then he should have the bitcoins back.

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:46:27 AM
Quote from: shorena on December 18, 2016, 07:38:54 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
yeah , someone i know
his adress is 19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK
mine is 35z7McoCcBa5wDL3u477Mqe1X8SCthdZLr

The transaction is here (A) -> https://blockchain.info/tx/ce90144d5292f22f2c9a9616b1cad53072d6e841c019283e80344c6fc0fe9116

its unconfirmed because this (B) -> https://blockchain.info/tx/1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56

must confirm first, but its a double spend attempt here (C) -> https://blockchain.info/tx/cb2c291a8c083882c3a0eb2f43bf20c1cdba9e771ac6bb952fc200d4b274b679

A can only confirm if B is confirmed. Should C get confirmed, B and A will become invalid.

(A) is not the first  transaction it is just a testing we made  today because we didnt see the first transaction
the first transaction was made on 16 december and now deasapeared

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 07:55:44 AM
That's weird. How is a transaction that conflict with another transaction with 63084 confirmations still be accepted by nodes? The transaction you posted will never confirm. I'd guess the older transaction got double spended too.

Edit:
Looks like This transaction (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56/) was made a year ago. The one who made it need to rescan their wallet.

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 08:11:57 AM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 07:55:44 AM
That's weird. How is a transaction that conflict with another transaction with 63084 confirmations still be accepted by nodes? The transaction you posted will never confirm. I'd guess the older transaction got double spended too.

Edit:
Looks like This transaction (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56/) was made a year ago. The one who made it need to rescan their wallet.
then double spend dont have solution?

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 08:11:57 AM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 07:55:44 AM
That's weird. How is a transaction that conflict with another transaction with 63084 confirmations still be accepted by nodes? The transaction you posted will never confirm. I'd guess the older transaction got double spended too.

Edit:
Looks like This transaction (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56/) was made a year ago. The one who made it need to rescan their wallet.
then double spend dont have solution?

Just tell the sender to send again and check the input carefully or clean their wallet first using -zapwallettxes (instructions here (https://achow101.com/2016/07/Bitcoin-Core-Troubleshooting#option-startup)). zapwallettxes will delete all unconfirmed transaction from a wallet and they will reappear after they get confirmed.
Unless the sender do this they might get the same problem in the future.

Edit:
Forgot to mention that this is if they're using bitcoin core.

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: shorena on December 18, 2016, 08:38:33 AM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 18, 2016, 08:11:57 AM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 18, 2016, 07:55:44 AM
That's weird. How is a transaction that conflict with another transaction with 63084 confirmations still be accepted by nodes? The transaction you posted will never confirm. I'd guess the older transaction got double spended too.

Edit:
Looks like This transaction (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56/) was made a year ago. The one who made it need to rescan their wallet.
then double spend dont have solution?

Just tell the sender to send again and check the input carefully or clean their wallet first using -zapwallettxes (instructions here (https://achow101.com/2016/07/Bitcoin-Core-Troubleshooting#option-startup)). zapwallettxes will delete all unconfirmed transaction from a wallet and they will reappear after they get confirmed.
Unless the sender do this they might get the same problem in the future.

Edit:
Forgot to mention that this is if they're using bitcoin core.

I dont think its that easy. This is all kinds of fucked up. As you wrote yourself why is it shown as having 63k confirmations and unconfirmed at the same time?


Here is the decoded TX (B)

Code:


{
  "txid": "1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56",
  "hash": "1a7d0db89beb6fa643263a9cf1c7c95646404bff37522e7be1c62bfa08962c56",
  "size": 225,
  "vsize": 225,
  "version": 1,
  "locktime": 0,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "fb77d308677b9b7c2cd1e3f1a2ca8e478cb988f1efb5afd3ffb1c4817487f09f",
      "vout": 1,
      "scriptSig": {
        "asm": "304402204c1e26a3fa559f79ebcaf0393d66a0d4b008bee6cb8bf30ed469853efd6be2f602202c42ea9b078385bbce082dbe6ea0c4e09ad1ee445af8f54e0ba9c5679650e8a7[ALL] 030172577180dcd5e90427061d95dc75eea853a7d6284cecde3d4b892a0e6fc459",
        "hex": "47304402204c1e26a3fa559f79ebcaf0393d66a0d4b008bee6cb8bf30ed469853efd6be2f602202c42ea9b078385bbce082dbe6ea0c4e09ad1ee445af8f54e0ba9c5679650e8a70121030172577180dcd5e90427061d95dc75eea853a7d6284cecde3d4b892a0e6fc459"
      },
      "sequence": 4294967295
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 0.08716124,
      "n": 0,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 97fdb65580e78e8bc02730968d7a0f962e7591b6 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a91497fdb65580e78e8bc02730968d7a0f962e7591b688ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "1EreyCicGPWf4jKtz8QfWnJkMv89HAkMX2"
        ]
      }
    }, 
    {
      "value": 1.62984678,
      "n": 1,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 5947c23a1ec58ae03419d0296eeceb6183680400 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a9145947c23a1ec58ae03419d0296eeceb618368040088ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK"
        ]
      }
    }
  ]
}

This[1] is the input (ID: 1) used. Its spend here[2]. Someone is playing with you OP.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/fb77d308677b9b7c2cd1e3f1a2ca8e478cb988f1efb5afd3ffb1c4817487f09f
[2] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/cb2c291a8c083882c3a0eb2f43bf20c1cdba9e771ac6bb952fc200d4b274b679

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: boyka2 on December 19, 2016, 07:21:39 PM
now the 2nd transaction desapear too
  when i searh for it
 blochain return
Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.

Title: Re: Transaction desapeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 20, 2016, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 19, 2016, 07:21:39 PM
now the 2nd transaction desapear too
  when i searh for it
 blochain return
Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.

Like I said above, it was never going to get a confirmation because the unconfirmed input (marked by U in blockchain.info explorer) conflicts with a transaction that's actually confirmed over a year ago.

It seems that the sender has made another transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/2a0ad18fff05b69876a9e11d7b27f47bf7bed0c9a35a4c5149a09ae94dee1a5b) that will also never confirm. Either someone is about to be scammed 2.44502427BTC or the sender is trying to transfer all their coins to a less problematic address.
If you know them try directing them here if they want to fix it. I'm not entirely sure what's going on but others might.

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 04:06:53 AM
Hi guys,
I am here sender and don't know what is wrong happening with my account.
Since i paid initial amount to OP it start issues.
We had many skype conversation and last we agreed to drop this btc address and move to new so i created new address and migrate funds from old to new one.
In my old account was having some $576 but when it applied transfer funds it reflects some $1966  ???
It is unconfirmed but i am simply blank what the hell is going on and how to fix it ??

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 05:27:30 AM
Quote from: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 04:06:53 AM
Hi guys,
I am here sender and don't know what is wrong happening with my account.
Since i paid initial amount to OP it start issues.
We had many skype conversation and last we agreed to drop this btc address and move to new so i created new address and migrate funds from old to new one.
In my old account was having some $576 but when it applied transfer funds it reflects some $1966  ???
It is unconfirmed but i am simply blank what the hell is going on and how to fix it ??

You should start with what wallet software you're using. If you're using bitcoin core try what I posted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1719613.msg17219049#msg17219049). Although it may not work it's still worth a try. It's fairly save to try that but you should back up your wallet if you haven't already.

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: BuySomeBitcoins on December 21, 2016, 05:58:36 AM
hold on, which wallet are you using and is it up to date ?

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: boyka2 on December 21, 2016, 07:00:56 AM
Quote from: BuySomeBitcoins on December 21, 2016, 05:58:36 AM
hold on, which wallet are you using and is it up to date ?
he use BlockChain

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 07:11:10 AM
Quote from: boyka2 on December 21, 2016, 07:00:56 AM
Quote from: BuySomeBitcoins on December 21, 2016, 05:58:36 AM
hold on, which wallet are you using and is it up to date ?
he use BlockChain

In that case I've write a post about that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722781.msg17244610#msg17244610). I'm sure you'll be able to send all your funds to another address using electrum because that transaction isn't listed by any of the servers. I suspect it'll work with any other wallet other than blockchain.info.

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: DannyHamilton on December 21, 2016, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 04:06:53 AM
Hi guys,
I am here sender and don't know what is wrong happening with my account.
Since i paid initial amount to OP it start issues.
We had many skype conversation and last we agreed to drop this btc address and move to new so i created new address and migrate funds from old to new one.
In my old account was having some $576 but when it applied transfer funds it reflects some $1966  ???
It is unconfirmed but i am simply blank what the hell is going on and how to fix it ??

Your wallet is broken.  Are you using blockchain.info for your wallet?  If so, contact support and make them fix it.

Your wallet is trying to spend this:
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/200209976/1

And that is NOT a valid transaction output.

If you are not using blockchain.info, then please let us know what wallet you are using.

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 07:11:10 AM

In that case I've write a post about that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722781.msg17244610#msg17244610). I'm sure you'll be able to send all your funds to another address using electrum because that transaction isn't listed by any of the servers. I suspect it'll work with any other wallet other than blockchain.info.

I tried the same.
I created another wallet within my blockchain account and tried to send all fund from one to another:
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a0ad18fff05b69876a9e11d7b27f47bf7bed0c9a35a4c5149a09ae94dee1a5b
But it is also unconfirmed.

Here i am amazed, earlier was having only $576 but when i migrate fund from old to new it reflect me amount $1966 and which is pending since transfer.
I am confused why

Quote from: DannyHamilton on December 21, 2016, 10:58:35 AM

Your wallet is broken.  Are you using blockchain.info for your wallet?  If so, contact support and make them fix it.

Your wallet is trying to spend this:
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/200209976/1

And that is NOT a valid transaction output.

If you are not using blockchain.info, then please let us know what wallet you are using.

Yes, i am using blockchain.info only.
Please tell me how to get it fix.
Thanks

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 07:11:10 AM

In that case I've write a post about that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722781.msg17244610#msg17244610). I'm sure you'll be able to send all your funds to another address using electrum because that transaction isn't listed by any of the servers. I suspect it'll work with any other wallet other than blockchain.info.

I tried the same.
I created another wallet within my blockchain account and tried to send all fund from one to another:
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a0ad18fff05b69876a9e11d7b27f47bf7bed0c9a35a4c5149a09ae94dee1a5b
But it is also unconfirmed.

The problem here is likely to be blockchain.info itself. To transfer all the funds to another address without your wallet fixing itself first you'll have to use another wallet client.

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: DannyHamilton on December 21, 2016, 03:29:37 PM
Quote from: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: DannyHamilton on December 21, 2016, 10:58:35 AM

Your wallet is broken.  Are you using blockchain.info for your wallet?  If so, contact support and make them fix it.

Your wallet is trying to spend this:
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/200209976/1

And that is NOT a valid transaction output.

If you are not using blockchain.info, then please let us know what wallet you are using.

Yes, i am using blockchain.info only.
Please tell me how to get it fix.
Thanks

Blockchain.info is broken.

Contact support and make them fix it.

Title: Re: Transaction disappeared
Post by: LoyceV on December 21, 2016, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: ashish1234 on December 21, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: longbob72 on December 21, 2016, 07:11:10 AM

In that case I've write a post about that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722781.msg17244610#msg17244610). I'm sure you'll be able to send all your funds to another address using electrum because that transaction isn't listed by any of the servers. I suspect it'll work with any other wallet other than blockchain.info.

I tried the same.
I created another wallet within my blockchain account and tried to send all fund from one to another:
https://blockchain.info/tx/2a0ad18fff05b69876a9e11d7b27f47bf7bed0c9a35a4c5149a09ae94dee1a5b
But it is also unconfirmed.

The problem here is likely to be blockchain.info itself. To transfer all the funds to another address without your wallet fixing itself first you'll have to use another wallet client.
19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK (https://blockchain.info/address/19956xNmRtwHojVZfVMXG3xHEovVARVWbK) shows Final Balance -1.7170762 BTC. That can't be good.

I suggest you export (https://github.com/OmniLayer/omniwallet/wiki/Exporting-Private-Key-from-Blockchain.info-and-Importing-to-Omniwallet.org) the private key from Blockchain.info, and import it in for example Electrum.


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