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Title: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: SnowFlakes-Dev on December 20, 2016, 07:48:55 PM
I want to burn some Snow Flakes from the premine. How do I achieve this.  Any best practice?


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: BigBoom3599 on December 20, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
Just send them to a random address :D, as long as nobody has the private keys to that address (and won't generate them in the future) nobody will be able to access the coins.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: ttookk on December 20, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Just send them to a random address :D, as long as nobody has the private keys to that address (and won't generate them in the future) nobody will be able to access the coins.

Best to send them to an address, that is "provably" without known private key, like "XOXOXOXOXBURNADDRESSXOXOXOXOXO" or something along those lines. Otherwise, nobody can be sure, whether the random address is in fact random, or you actually hold the privkey to it.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: SnowFlakes-Dev on December 20, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
I tried sending to fake addresses like XOXOXOXOXBURNADDRESSXOXOXOXOXO0000 or S000BURN0ADDRESS000000000000000000

But console says
Code:
Invalid snowflakes address (code -5)

How do I guess a valid address ?


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: ajaxmoor on December 20, 2016, 10:54:29 PM
I tried sending to fake addresses like XOXOXOXOXBURNADDRESSXOXOXOXOXO0000 or S000BURN0ADDRESS000000000000000000

But console says
Code:
Invalid snowflakes address (code -5)

How do I guess a valid address ?

You could always create a new wallet, and transfer coins to it and delete the wallet key from your system. Would definitely ensure no one gets those coins in the future.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: ttookk on December 20, 2016, 11:15:51 PM
I tried sending to fake addresses like XOXOXOXOXBURNADDRESSXOXOXOXOXO0000 or S000BURN0ADDRESS000000000000000000

But console says
Code:
Invalid snowflakes address (code -5)

How do I guess a valid address ?

I'm not familiar with snowflakes, so I don't know what a snowflakes address needs to constitute as a valid address. You are the dev, you should know ;)


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: SnowFlakes-Dev on December 20, 2016, 11:25:12 PM
It uses Base58Check encoding decimal version 63 (S)

Yet S000BURN0ADDRESS000000000000000000 is not accepted.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Huge Black Woman on December 20, 2016, 11:35:16 PM
DA FUQ is a snowflake coin?  An' don't the OP here claim to be a develolper o' that coin or what?  Don't y'all know how to waste up ya own coin?


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: SnowFlakes-Dev on December 21, 2016, 02:33:08 AM
Found This https://gist.github.com/CoinWhisperer/6d673f1f3d13da1611cd

Works #1


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 21, 2016, 07:33:54 AM
Send your coins to me i will burn them for you  ;D


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: talkbitcoin on December 21, 2016, 10:38:04 AM
if the fundamentals are the same as bitcoin you can't just pick a random address on your own, the address has to match certain rules which is the base58 encoding with checksum.
like this:
Code:
Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum
you can find articles on how to do it with bitcoin and then change them to your altcoin:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1851/how-to-generate-a-valid-bitcoin-address-for-destroying-bitcoins

p.s. donating them would be wiser and easier!


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: donalddlanod on December 21, 2016, 06:32:01 PM
if the fundamentals are the same as bitcoin you can't just pick a random address on your own, the address has to match certain rules which is the base58 encoding with checksum.
like this:
Code:
Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum
you can find articles on how to do it with bitcoin and then change them to your altcoin:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1851/how-to-generate-a-valid-bitcoin-address-for-destroying-bitcoins

p.s. donating them would be wiser and easier!



Donating is an awesome idea. ANd you would get extra marketing mileage out of it.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: sonic212 on December 21, 2016, 06:37:07 PM
I tried sending to fake addresses like XOXOXOXOXBURNADDRESSXOXOXOXOXO0000 or S000BURN0ADDRESS000000000000000000

But console says
Code:
Invalid snowflakes address (code -5)

How do I guess a valid address ?

You could always create a new wallet, and transfer coins to it and delete the wallet key from your system. Would definitely ensure no one gets those coins in the future.
how it could happen you please tell me about it


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Warkop on December 21, 2016, 09:33:41 PM
Just send them to a random address :D, as long as nobody has the private keys to that address (and won't generate them in the future) nobody will be able to access the coins.
I thought it was appropriate to criminals who make coins for fraud


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: ttookk on December 21, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
The problem with all completely random burn addresses is, that you can't concusively prove, that you don't really know the privkey. PEople would have to trust you. If the burn address is sufficiently non-random, there is no way in hell that you or anyone else knows the privkey.

Maybe use the burn address generator mentioned above and just change "1" to "S"?


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Spoetnik on December 22, 2016, 05:38:41 AM
The problem with all completely random burn addresses is, that you can't concusively prove, that you don't really know the privkey. PEople would have to trust you. If the burn address is sufficiently non-random, there is no way in hell that you or anyone else knows the privkey.

Maybe use the burn address generator mentioned above and just change "1" to "S"?

Agreed and an interesting solution. (didn't know there was anything like that)
Isn't there a burn coin or two ? What about giving them to that thing ?
Just a thought ..i know little about this issue.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: ttookk on December 22, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
The problem with all completely random burn addresses is, that you can't concusively prove, that you don't really know the privkey. PEople would have to trust you. If the burn address is sufficiently non-random, there is no way in hell that you or anyone else knows the privkey.

Maybe use the burn address generator mentioned above and just change "1" to "S"?

Agreed and an interesting solution. (didn't know there was anything like that)
Isn't there a burn coin or two ? What about giving them to that thing ?
Just a thought ..i know little about this issue.

Afaik, Traditional coins don't jump blockchains, so those proof-of-burn coins will have to use burn addresses on the native blockchain of a coin.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Hazard on December 22, 2016, 01:22:54 PM
https://dev.cryptolife.net/trusted-burn-addresses/


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: aioc on December 22, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
https://dev.cryptolife.net/trusted-burn-addresses/

I have bookmarked this page for reference and for future usage,there's been so many altcoin in the market with over supply of their coin and a site like Barr and this addresses are a big help to the community.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: chanbtc on December 22, 2016, 04:49:13 PM
https://dev.cryptolife.net/trusted-burn-addresses/


Looks nice but how they are guaranteed to have no known or discoverable private key??


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: judeafante on December 22, 2016, 05:19:19 PM
Why are these devs keeps creating huge supply for their coin when in fact it is a big turn off for investors,I shunned away from coins that has huge supply in the market especially if all those coins are premine,they just want to make profit.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: jovs on December 23, 2016, 12:20:36 PM
Why are these devs keeps creating huge supply for their coin when in fact it is a big turn off for investors,I shunned away from coins that has huge supply in the market especially if all those coins are premine,they just want to make profit.
You're right. The reason why some altcoin's value dumps after it was launched is because of too much supply.
That is the biggest reason why do we have shitcoins in cryptocurrency exchange. We should never fall from dev's plan. Always manifestate before to invest in a cryptocoin.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: szpalata on December 23, 2016, 01:18:47 PM
Just send them to a random address :D, as long as nobody has the private keys to that address (and won't generate them in the future) nobody will be able to access the coins.

Just send to a generated (random) address and keep your private keys to yourself.


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Rahar02 on December 23, 2016, 02:30:31 PM
if the fundamentals are the same as bitcoin you can't just pick a random address on your own, the address has to match certain rules which is the base58 encoding with checksum.
like this:
Code:
Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum
you can find articles on how to do it with bitcoin and then change them to your altcoin:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1851/how-to-generate-a-valid-bitcoin-address-for-destroying-bitcoins

p.s. donating them would be wiser and easier!

Agreed, why you want to waste it out instead of donating your coins.
Many people out there are looking for coins if you realize that.

https://dev.cryptolife.net/trusted-burn-addresses/

Addresses to burn your coins? Looks like suspicious
We don't know for sure unless there are some legit evidence.

Looks nice but how they are guaranteed to have no known or discoverable private key??

Yes, we don't know if that's true if they actually burn it for real instead of keeping all of it, moreover the coins can't just disappear right?


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: Nanda Dewi277 on December 24, 2016, 07:00:19 AM
What....!!! Burning coins,,,, ??? I've heard if the coin can be in burning


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: thebatletbet on December 24, 2016, 07:39:19 AM
mixer and burning for me
you can send your coin, i will send you bitcoin, but only 10% price in ico selling

the serious answer
if you dev you can create addres and send your coin , and then deleted addres and private key
so anything person can't use balance coin in your burn


Title: Re: Burning coins. How to?
Post by: fikihafana on December 26, 2016, 11:27:18 AM
I want to burn some Snow Flakes from the premine. How do I achieve this.  Any best practice?

Simple way

1. Create new wallet address (do not open their private key)
2. Send to your new address
3. Permanent Delete your wallet.dat