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Title: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: marcus905 on April 10, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
Is this the start of a recovery or a bull trap?

I'd hope for the first but I'm still confused...


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Newscastix on April 10, 2013, 08:54:15 PM
make a vote out of it!


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: giarc on April 10, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
Is this the start of a recovery or a bull trap?

I'd hope for the first but I'm still confused...

This has been a major fall and there seems to be no sign of the depression stage of a bust, on top of this the population of bitcoin investors has a large ideological component creating excess bullish tendencies. These two things suggest to me that there should be a bull trap at some point and that this is possibly it.

I wouldn't worry about buying back in quick, wait for the depression stage when you can be more comfortable with your choice. If it stabilizes before then it'll cost you maybe 10% to buy in later. If not you'll profit from a lower price and no loss due to a fall.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: JordanL on April 10, 2013, 09:01:37 PM
Recovery.  8)


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on April 10, 2013, 09:02:03 PM
Only time will tell.

Never being in with what one couldn't afford to lose in the first place, combined with never selling bitcoin for fiat, is a strategy that has worked OK for me so far. It mightn't be the perfect equity strategy, but it mitigates most of the market volatility risk.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Elwar on April 10, 2013, 09:04:22 PM
There is no bull or bear. Only Bitcoin or fiat.

Make your choice.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: im3w1l on April 10, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
What if it was a bear trap?


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: bitcon on April 10, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
im just happy i had a buy order set at $190 ;D a couple days ago


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Xendrios on April 10, 2013, 09:07:59 PM
I have yet to see a bull trap in bitcoin, looking back at the past 4 years it looks like one big bear trap :-)


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Philj on April 10, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
When you look back in a few weeks while we're sitting at $500/BTC you'll see that we just left a bear trap.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Luno on April 10, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
We got world press attention remember. How the press takes this second DDos / crash will have a lot to say about market adoption speed in the near future. Stunt's like this need to be dealt with publicly the following days!

It's no longer fun and games!


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: marcus905 on April 10, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
There is no bull or bear. Only Bitcoin or fiat.

Make your choice.

I already did, and it's Bitcoin.

I like speculating and playing with the markets though...
 
Is this the start of a recovery or a bull trap?

I'd hope for the first but I'm still confused...

This has been a major fall and there seems to be no sign of the depression stage of a bust, on top of this the population of bitcoin investors has a large ideological component creating excess bullish tendencies. These two things suggest to me that there should be a bull trap at some point and that this is possibly it.

I wouldn't worry about buying back in quick, wait for the depression stage when you can be more comfortable with your choice. If it stabilizes before then it'll cost you maybe 10% to buy in later. If not you'll profit from a lower price and no loss due to a fall.

Thanks! It's what I think I'll do :)

The sentiment about Bitcoin is positive from what I see, though :)


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: hgmichna on April 10, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
We are in a picture-book bull trap right now.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Xendrios on April 10, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
We are in a picture-book bull trap right now.

depends on what happens next. If you're convinced of it being a bulltrap, sell your coins? :-)


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: giarc on April 10, 2013, 09:18:56 PM
There is no bull or bear. Only Bitcoin or fiat.

Make your choice.

I already did, and it's Bitcoin.

I like speculating and playing with the markets though...
 
Is this the start of a recovery or a bull trap?

I'd hope for the first but I'm still confused...

This has been a major fall and there seems to be no sign of the depression stage of a bust, on top of this the population of bitcoin investors has a large ideological component creating excess bullish tendencies. These two things suggest to me that there should be a bull trap at some point and that this is possibly it.

I wouldn't worry about buying back in quick, wait for the depression stage when you can be more comfortable with your choice. If it stabilizes before then it'll cost you maybe 10% to buy in later. If not you'll profit from a lower price and no loss due to a fall.

Thanks! It's what I think I'll do :)

The sentiment about Bitcoin is positive from what I see, though :)

The positive sentiment is what scares me. :)


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: giarc on April 10, 2013, 09:20:42 PM
We are in a picture-book bull trap right now.

I agree, not sure on timings though. Up to a couple of days i guess. What are your views?


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: alexh on April 10, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
Definitely recovery, but probably not a stable one!


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: CoinDiver on April 10, 2013, 09:24:34 PM
Dead Cat Bounce.

Oh, and expect everyone to tell you the opposite of what they really think, in a vain attempt to steer you in a direction that they believe will benefit them.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: evolve on April 10, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
No one knows. I'll be taking profits from the crash soon and staying out until the market figures out a direction.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: PrymeTyme on April 10, 2013, 09:36:46 PM
a retest of the lows will tell us more .... patience ..


till now it looks like  pot. selling climax ...


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Wekkel on April 10, 2013, 09:45:16 PM
There is no bull or bear. Only Bitcoin or fiat.

Make your choice.

I need to make a repository of favourite forum quotes....


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: BIGMERVE on April 10, 2013, 09:52:12 PM
I know people post this image way too much, but it has been very accurate so far.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/2009/Mar/Money-Week_clip_image001.jpg

If Mt.Gox lag keeps increasing this will definitely be a bull trap.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: chrsjrcj on April 10, 2013, 09:52:56 PM
^

Hope so. I want double digits. Damnit.  ;D


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: marcus905 on April 10, 2013, 10:04:56 PM
It's starting to look a lot like the bull trap I feared :(


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Rincewind on April 10, 2013, 10:06:42 PM
Now leaving Fear, headed for Capitulation.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: BIGMERVE on April 10, 2013, 10:07:04 PM
It's starting to look a lot like the bull trap I feared :(

Yeah, but I think the low will be around $100. We'll probably hit double digits and then bounce right back up.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: pretendo on April 10, 2013, 10:10:00 PM
200+ prices were based on the exuberance of buyers that flocked here to cash in on some never-ending increase in value. We won't see that again until the strong hands and institutions really support it. Price will still mainly be floated by speculation, but not nearly what we were at.

If i had to take a guess, I can predict settling just above 100 for a while and creeping up more cautiously than before


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: marcus905 on April 10, 2013, 10:31:53 PM
(Poll added :) )

Now two questions!

1: WTF? Another bull trap? or what?

2: proudhon, where are you??


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: proudhon on April 10, 2013, 10:34:59 PM
Easy.  Bull trap.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: chrsjrcj on April 10, 2013, 10:37:09 PM
I don't know where the bottom is. I threw out $75 during the height of the madness, but will accept anything below $150. I want at least two weeks of stability, but with Bitcoin, anything can happen.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: marcus905 on April 10, 2013, 10:40:58 PM
Easy.  Bull trap.

Oh proudhon! You came as I called!

I am honored to have you as a guest in this thread :)

Thank you!

Anyway, to be honest and open, atm I'm in a hold-and-wait state, with a pretty small sell off to cover possible losses ordered at about 195$ and a slightly bigger failsafe at 145$

Edit: failsafe hit :/


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: chriswen on April 10, 2013, 11:33:55 PM
This is so funny there was actually a bull trap  ;D

I wonder when people will get into the fear stage.

That's quite a sizeable bull trap.  It dropped $50.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: ninjarobot on April 10, 2013, 11:34:37 PM
Easy.  Bull trap.

Oh proudhon! You came as I called!

Clearly this thread is a Bear trap :)


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: ehoffman on April 10, 2013, 11:35:28 PM
It's a way to make or lose money with clever (or not) daytrading...  ;D


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Francesco on April 10, 2013, 11:42:11 PM
There is no bull or bear. Only Bitcoin or fiat.

Make your choice.

I need to make a repository of favourite forum quotes....

BTC or Fiat? Fascinating. But, I have chosen: more BTC  ;) As soon as the bubble has really burst.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Crypt_Current on April 10, 2013, 11:45:48 PM
proudhon didn't use the phrase "single digits", so there's more downside to come


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: Zendata on April 10, 2013, 11:45:58 PM
Biggest bull trap bro.


Title: Re: Recovery or bull trap?
Post by: marcus905 on April 11, 2013, 12:00:57 AM
Easy.  Bull trap.

Oh proudhon! You came as I called!

Clearly this thread is a Bear trap :)

 ::) ;)