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People who are giving products and services for BTC "tipping" nowadays, is it truly worth for You?

I read that "tipping" does not work anymore because people prefer to download and then never tip even if they are nevertheless satisfied with the product. Also, I know that is why alot of people are selling their products for a hilariously low price because even selling for that price is said to be better than trusting in tips.

I have not saw any person who have tipped for any free product. If someone will get any tip for any of his free product and download then it maybe 1 out of thousands. Giving the product at a lowest price is better than giving for tip

I've tipped before, for very specific things on this forum, thing kind users did for me--like explanations via PM and so forth.  I've never tipped for posts or anything trivial.  Probably because I'm so friggin' tight with bitcoin my ass squeaks when I walk.  Bitcoin is just too valuable to give it away for nothing.

Isn't tipping what RDD and dogecoin are mainly used for?

I can say that I never tipped anyone for any free product. People just don't see reason to tip, if they can get something for free.
For example, there are thread with overview of signature campaigns. It's updated very often and people who are doing it really desserved to get tips. But only few people donated them.

If I had more money I would tip, but as I'm making profit from "tips" and things like that I can't retribute others and have profit at same time.

But I think it worth. I can't say for everyone, but I like to receive tips and I think many others like too. All extra earning is welcome and it's a signal you were helpful or agradable for someone. It has more a symbolic effect than practical.

Most products that come free are either FREEWARE or Open Source.
As I understand it, freeware is less used by developers as people prefer to have access to the Source Code in order to work out how the program functions and how to optimize it for their computers. (and lots of freeware services are rigged with some sort of virus or problem - such as adobe who download McAfee at the same time as their software installs).
If it is open source, that means multiple people have collaborated on producin the software (normally after people modify and release different versions of the code). Therefore, the software isn't made solely by the developer.

Tipping should be abolished in the online world as well as in the real world. People who serve, regardless if it's just online or in a real restaurant, expects to be given some money for their job. So why not just declare a fixed fee for their services. So that people who use the service know how much he has to really pay and the server does not expect a random tip. Not to mention, if the tip was really small (or no tip at all), they will be mad.

Well it depends on your satisfaction, there are people who are doing this, that even the product / service they got for free is satisfying they won't really mind even to say thanks and as well as tipping. But didn't you know that there is a new word that has been used for the replacement of 'tipping'? Many open source sites that are offering free services have their very own 'donate' button.

People are greedy by nature and the one who want to download stuffs for free whenever he/she can just want to save few dollars so there is no chance that he/she will tip anything to the content owner. I don't think even 0.01% of people who use free services/products will donate/tip to owner, so selling for very low price is better idea than hoping for tips/donations.

I think if you enjoy the product or services, tipping a small amount will not hurt you. In the contrary, I think you will be blessing for your contribution. The same think is true in the real world, if you see someone to play nice music on the street, give a quarter is not a big deal. I think the more you give, the more will receive you back.

From my point of view to be too much greedy is not a good thing.

Trusting tipping from crypto community is like trusting trump with your hot wife. And I say it is not worth it.

Tipping/Donating is not a based revenue for your project its just a "Help" so don't be confused, I even consider it like Charity if its not on providing support for valuable projects

Regards,
Bitcoin Boy.

Tipping is just a kind of small help as what Bitcoin_Boy said, I give a tipped to a person if he did something good like giving some legit tutorials that many people can benefits. And if you offer your products/service for free don't expect for a tip. Much better if you sell it even just small penny.

It is really worth in our real life but I doubt that it is still worth on the digital world. On the internet, people always use free/cheap products without appreciating the providers. Well, only escrow services can have good tips. I always tip them after finishing every trade

I would say that if you giving products for tip then don't expect for profit, people on the internet are acting like poor when it comes to pay something or atleast give an appreciation for what people have done for them
In real life it would be such a shame by not giving a tip to people who just helped them but in the internet they don't have the thing to be ashamed about

Tipping with bitcoins now a days is really a job done once in a blue moon because the value of bitcoin has raised up to $1000 again and i don't think someone would be tipping anyone for just a free service or anything with bitcoin, people may did this before when the price was not as high as it is right now.

The act of tipping with BTC is now dead. The service Change Tip even closed down because there were no people using it. BTC is simply too valuable to be given away easly to random people on the internet. But other coins like Doge are better suited for it, but even then Doge tipping is getting lower and lower every year.

I have Tipped a few users out of 2016 & into 2017 so far and sometimes randomly throughout the years I have been a Member of Bitcointalk, self satisfaction knowing you are spreading the BTCTC love makes it so much better when you do it, no matter if that person has loads of BTCitcoin or not.

I offer the Rewards, Tips, or what ever you want to call it for using your Brain with Quiz's that aren't Generic, it throws the cheats off their game and gives others that may specialize in the Subject/Genre a chance.

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Well tipping is a good way to appreciate help of other people. They may be offering some 'free' service but it doesn't mean that you will take the advantage and will just simply say thank you from them. It is just a token of appreciation and it is a thing that makes those people who are not actually profiting from their service to encourage them to keep on helping other.

You are a rare breed in the forum. Most of us here are happy to hold on in what we have. Maybe its because we dont hold that much BTC in the first place. Maybe if I was a Bitcoin millionaire I would tip random people sometimes. But honestly speaking I think its a waste of BTC.

Have you worked in a restaurant before? You get the worst verbal abuse in the service industry from people who think they know best, but seldom do. You have to take their shit day in and day out, without losing your temper. You spend many hours on your feet, running around to pleasure other people and most restaurant owners exploit their workers and pay them minimum wages.

I always tip 10% and much more, when the service was good, because I was in their shoes when I was still a student and working in restaurants for some spending money. I also paid for my own education and books, from my second part-time job.  

Exactly, maybe before when the price of bitcoin was not too high even the ones with less coins could tip someone with bitcoins but now a days if someone has a very limited amount of bitcoins then they would just think of holding them as the price is too high, and only the ones with a lot of bitcoins might think of tipping someone with them for a service or something.

If anyone is hoping to earn any tips on this forum, you're probably in the wrong place. It seems the vast majority of people are here to earn through signature campaigns (and alike) rather to spend/give away.

But, outside bitcointalk, the tipping/donating culture among bitcoiners still holds somewhat strong. Looking at any popular project, youtube channel, charity etc. that accept bitcoins, most do receive quite meaningful (and regular) btc income. Few examples:

WikiLeaks: over BTC4,007 received (https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v?offset=0&filter=6) to the current address
FreeDomainRadio: over BTC669 (https://blockchain.info/address/1Fd8RuZqJNG4v56rPD1v6rgYptwnHeJRWs)
even Lifeboats (RNLI) received almost BTC12 (https://blockchain.info/address/1PZ5ebvdt43dvRRgRNgBhsq2PwAKN4X6W) despite the fact that btc donation option is hidden and not accessible from the main page (you have to google search for it).

So if you're doing something that a lot of people find really useful, then there's a big chance you'll get some appreciation tips.



I don't see how high btc price prevents anyone from tipping. You know you could just send smaller amount, right?
More of a problem are the high tx fees, it doesn't make much sense anymore to tip anyone with $1 worth, if you have to pay ie $0.50 fee.

Interesting post you got there. Yeah indeed, I haven't tried tipping anyone yet on the forum for anything I've gotten or any information that was helpful to me. However, it's because really about my limited coins and my current finances. If I would earning more than what I need, probably I would be tipping some btc to those that really helped me over here.

tipping is no different than spamming faucets isn't it? i would not waste my time with tipping if you want to earn something there is trading with binary option or signature campaign, there is also mining but you need to invest a lot there, but the risk are quite low though

you can look at tipping from the point of view of the person who tips(or supposed to tip)
it is simple-the tip is not obligatory,you can walk away without sending anything,but if you are satisfied with the service or a freebie recieved
you show your appreciation by sending some amount of money
most people here don't tip as it is slightly different from the real life procedure-put your hand in the pocket,get money/card-tip
to tip bitcoins one has to copy paste addy,open wallet,send coins,pay tx fee on top of the tip amount... some can't be bothered
from the point of view of a person who gets,or plans to get a tip
he simply spends time to find something and posts it for free,if he were to sell that ,nobody would probably buy it
so even if he gets nothing for his effort its not the end of the world
treat it this way and you will not have any problems while being on either side

Not worth it, if you are doing a giveaway then someone may tip, but you must never rely on the tips because not many are going to do it or it is going to be a really small tip, so if you have a product , service or method is way better to sell even if the price is not very high.

If you are doing something for a tip it doesn't worth. Don't do things expecting to be rewarded by others. You won't survive by it and if you want to be tipped, set a price to the thing you are doing, offering, and you will know how much you will earn.
It's hard to find persons who will tip you, especially on this forum where the members don't have money. It you receive a tip, good for you, but don't wait for it...

Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.

if you have a wallet installed on the same device you're browsing the forum on, then sending btc is not much more difficult than tipping with cash. Problems are: tx fees, not everyone has an addy in the profile, the address could be from old and no longer used wallet, and the recipient wouldn't know (unless informed) what the received amount relates to.

The perfect solution would be the 'tip button' (all tips would be done off-chain) as suggested here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1241961.msg12929135#msg12929135), but that's unlikely ever going to happen (hope I'm wrong). They do have such button on Polish forum (forum.bitcoin.pl) and it works fine, there are plenty of tips flying around there despite relatively low forum activity.

How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.

I rarely tip. I much prefer it if the restaurant charges a service fee. It's very seldom that one receives excellent service nowadays and yet they always expect a tip. When you make it a point not to leave one,(to express your dissatisfaction)you'd even hear them grumble sometimes.
Is it too much to ask that they do their jobs properly? They are being paid for their work.
And no, I have never worked in a restaurant before, nor have I ever turned to verbally abusing my servers. I have, however, a time or two, reported some to their managers when the service was just too deplorable.
I dunno, maybe it's just that tipping isn't too much a part of our culture, unlike in the US where it's almost a requirement that you always leave a tip. Woe to you if you do not. heh

As for the subject, based on my point of view and experience,
If I wanted to earn/hoping to get some money then I would charge a fee.  
If I were truly just offering the service/product/etc for free and wasn't really expecting to get anything then I'd just include a tipping address.
It'll just be a pleasant surprise if I get a tip, if not, then it's no biggie since it wasn't required/expected in the first place.

Indeed I agree, the fact is that tipping is still worth it and you can stay doing it even with lower amounts right, so what is the problem..

That guys name is Roger Ver also known as the Bitcoin Jesus if I have my facts right. Hes still a millionaire and have invested millions in different BTC companies. Im sure he doesnt regret buying those pizzas with 10,000 BTC.

Wrong, Roger Ver was not the pizza guy. It was Laszlo Hanyecz (laszlo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=143)), it happened here on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141

See his last posts from 2014, he claims to have spent it all on those 2 pizzas. But at least someone tipped him 1 btc.

Thanks, so that was him who was the famous guy that bought pizzas for 10,000. I guess that was just cents way back then for him.

I'm thinking about the person who receive that 10,000 bitcoins if he has still save some of those.

Because I think laszlo does have millions of bitcoins and he is just now sitting around watching people that talks about him.

not neccessarily
he can be sitting and tearing his hair one by one since 2013 ;D
10.000 coins is roughly 10 mil USD
so at least he is the guy who bought the most expensive pizza in the world

Well tipping depends on luck because if people don't appreciate your work then obviously they are not going to tip you that much. If your target audience are stingy cheap people then you're not going to get tipped either. However if your audience is rich generous people, then they are more probable to tip.

I'd prefer half advertisement and half tipping, to be honest.

Tipping is still worth it and the fact is that you can simply give a low amount that does not care its about the fact that you need, it still make sense these days.

And it seems that 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas seems to be a tip for him and no value at all. Because even me, if way back then bitcoin is still low valued crypto.

I will not hesitate to use it to make my investment from keep on rolling and will be used.

Do someone any news about him and that guy who bought him pizzas?

I've tipped before for a product but only because I think the seller knows what he's doing and he deserves much better payment than what I've given him. Other tips like tipping the waiter on the restaurant was never done by me. I feel like all waiters are getting paid as much as they deserve already.

I think tipping is still worth only to people that are receiving the tip and to the people giving the tip. The receiver of the tip didn't ask you for money or anything. You just give it to them. People on Twitch gets a lot of tips/donation from their watchers because they enjoy watching them. They appreciate the streamer's videos so they tip them. It feels good to tip because you liked something. Tips came from the heart if you ask me because you're never obligated to tip anyone.

Thanks for correcting me. Well then if he spend all the BTC he had in those 2 pizza pies then he should be recognized as one of the biggest failures in the world of Bitcoin. I have heard some people in the forum say that they regret not making the decision to buy BTC way back in 2011 and they are kicking themselves about it. Laszlo Hanyecz must be thinking of killing himself.

I agree with you. some people do not give tip for product or service where the provider mentions that he accepts tip or asks for tip, then what about free product or service? I think only kind people or rich people would give tip. so it will be ebtter to sell the product or service.

but I think tip is worth in posting benefit information in this forum. or at least the thread starter would get some pennies from signature campaign if he joins one.

Yep still worth it, every tip is worth it in my eyes no matter what so I think there is no different if the price get higher too..

Buying two pizzas for 10,000 coins was a hilarious story, but that is the risk that everyone in crypto takes. Risk could help some earn millions and could cause loss of millions to others. Anyhow, risk means uncertainty and we can laugh now on the past, but the question is who will laugh in the future?

I understand I should not expect any tip so that I will not have to be disappointed at the end. The tips I got were the happiest when I did not expect them. I did not even write about tipping in the thread because each time I did, I could not stand not to expect any tip after that. I think all tips are worth after all because they mean the contribution was helpful to someone, but according to the replies above, it seems, we should not use tipping as a money-making method.

Ok if you think tipping is still worth it, will you tip me if I post my BTC address? To all you Bitcoiners who posted tipping is worth it and to all who still thinks that way then please tip me. My BTC address is in my profile.

It will help spread the word about BTC right? So there. Back your words with action.

I want to add that you do not really have to tip me. I am only trying to prove a point.

The thing is, you haven't offered any product or service for free that could incentive users to tip you.

I definitely think tipping is a good thing, and I try to tip whenever someone offers a free service that is useful and I use a lot. I don't know about spreading the word about BTC, because if someone accepts tips with BTC, they probably know about bitcoin beforehand. On the contrary, I think bitcoin tipping is very useful to reward people for offering a free service.

Though tipping is a good thing and i also feel it is worth doing if someone does something appreciable. But now a days we can hardly find someone tipping a person for doing something just because of the price of bitcoin, people even try to save the smallest parts of their possession so that they can earn more profit in coming time.

Yup, whatever the amount of the tip as long as it is given willingly by that person. Then that tip will always be a good way of appreciation.

And most of the time, we practice to expect nothing for doing or helping people out in the market.

But because of tipping, its a matter of good way to thank people.

I don't know about Bitcoin tips, but some free services trust on tips and donations, and they still are somehow able to pay for the developers.

Like adblock and wayback machine, that have dedicated staff and survive because of donations

So tipping works, at least if your intention is run a service and be helpful to others, and not get loads of money and get rich

Yes, that's definitely sad and I wish people would tip more. I can relate to both sides, as sometimes I do tip people and sometimes I don't because I feel that I want to keep some of my BTC in my wallet. On the contrary, I think more people would be comfortable with tipping with bitcoin as opposed to PayPal due to simplicity of bitcoin.

I think an alternative to taking tips would to maybe charge a small amount for a script, or put ads in whatever service you're operating.


That's very true, but we don't know if they make most of their tips off bitcoin or PayPal. If they did release statistics, it would be great if someone could link me to it.

I think tipping someone is good, it shows that we appreciate them, eventhough tipping is not a must thing but it will be nice to tip someone when you got help from that person,but in my opinion it is still seldom that people give a tipped to someone, I ever tipped someone because he helped me to to explained something to software related and it felt nice

i dont think anybody would think to tip this way

I gets people who says they love mah big black booty-lishous style o' postin', BUT THEY NEVA TIP MY A55.  So the best it gits onna this here forum at least, gratitude git paid some lip service.  An' you all know where you kin stick yo lips.  Rite on my fat black gluteus maximus.  Evverbody be cheap as **** here.  Y'all know people's addresses, they inna profiles.  Who up in here eva gotta tip?

It is really a good way to appreciate someones work by not accepting any fees but offering their service freely. And this is applicable to escrowing services because there are some members here who are trusted and does offer it for free but accepts tip. Then that's a good way to say thank you to them because they will appreciate your tip.

There is nothing wrong in tipping especially where one is generating some form of return or benefiting in one way or the other but the issue there is that, I dont think people really take it serious and some people have equally abused the process. You can see a signature asking for a tip or an announcement who has not even communicated anything about what he/she is offering still asking for a tip. As a developer, I dont think its ok to wait for a tip if you cant afford to give it free then sell...

Yeah, what you can or cannot afford should taken into consideration as a heavy factor. The idea of tipping is nice, but in case you can afford to give your product for free then why not giving it for free and in case you cannot afford to give it for free, you should not base the return on tipping. After all, tipping's place would be somewhere in a free service/product where it is not too obvious but where the right people can find it with some research.

It will always be a good thing if you are going to give some tip to a person that gave you a good service.
Treat it like a gift to him.

Frankly, it doesn't matter. Money is money. Would it be better if you received 440 Doge tip instead of its equivalent - which is 0.0001 BTC?
The only problem might be transaction fee of BTC, but this is not a problem when sending money through some online wallets.
Plus BTC can be used more freely, if you receive Doge you will have to convert it to fiat or BTC to use it.

I think it's also a little based on the culture of the place where you live. For example here in Italy "tipping" isn't a part of the colture and we don't do it... when we eat in restaurants we pay the "coperto" (usually an euro or two) for the service of the waiters and you can't choose, you have to do it.

If I had to sell something I'd rather put it at a very low price than rely on tipping.

You are right about tipping is for the token of appreciation. But sometimes, tipping is also for giving other people who are badly in need. I'm speaking on gambling tipping. Because i think you are pertaining on tipping for the great service just for free. I always tipped other user everytime i won huge btc with no string attachment.

It also depends on the site you are on. Some sites even if you think you are tipping the dealer or the person working behind the counter that you are interacting with, the money goes straight to the site and not the dealer. Whenever you feel like tipping, please ask the dealer if they get to keep the tip or is it going to the site. I have come across a couple of sites where I tipped thinking it would go to the dealer but they denied when asked about it. May be the casino owner then splits the tip money later or may be he just keeps it for himself. I do not know about that.

Thank you for pointing out the cultural differences! Truly, tipping is a cultural factor.

In some cultures they do and in some cultures they don't, what's more look at it as an offense sometimes.

But again, in a system that connects people from very different cultures together, what is this system's culture?
It is undefined and that is why tipping strongly depends on the individual and that is why you cannot base a systematic earning plan on it.

But you are right about the low price selling. If your purpose is making profit, then sell and do not rely on tipping.

Overall, I can sum it up as: tipping is a nice opportunity and far not outdated, but its place is not in a money-making method. Its place is in people's hearts  ;) So it is worth for you as long as you can appreciate it in your project as a favor.