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Title: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: prince V on January 04, 2017, 02:37:13 AM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 04, 2017, 03:03:33 AM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

The majority of polling, mainstream media, etc. all believed without a shadow of a doubt Hillary would win. There were even magazines printed with Hillary on the front as the victor shipped to businesses the day before the election results came in. Some of the chaos was because it was literally a miracle that he won based on the polling for months showing an entirely different outcome. Moreover, CNN pushed their bullcrap and divisive agenda the entire election cycle, stating that Trump hated women, minorities, was best friends with Putin, etc, etc. Their psychological manipulation caused many to literally riot over their candidates loss, and have cry-ins and class cancellations at liberal campuses in the nation.

There was no cheating involved, the media and the Obama claim Russia and Putin "hacked" the election, but it is baseless. There is ZERO evidence of Russian influence in the election. The leaks came to Wikileaks from within the DNC, not from Russia. On a similar note, the recounts that took place actually ended up giving more votes to Trump and exposed voter fraud on the part of the democrats; With 37% of the counties in Detroit reporting more ballots than the number of registered voters. The recount, "Russia hacks," and the "oh we won the national popular vote" garbage is just a sorry, sore attempt at delegitimizing the president-elect. The majority of the country supported his ideas, and that is the reason he will be our next president.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on January 04, 2017, 04:00:10 AM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

There were recounts.

And after the recounts, Trump actually increased his margin of victory. Also, the recount in Michigan helped to uncover massive amount of Democrat ballot stuffing in the city of Detroit.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: protokol on January 04, 2017, 04:55:30 AM
Yeah, although I'm not a fan of Trump, all this "hacking" scandal is absolute bullshit as far as I can see - many media outlets are misleadingly portraying it as hacking of the actual ballot, which when you read closely there is no evidence for whatsoever.

There may have been Russian influence in the run up to the election, paid internet trolls for example, and biased media to try and increase Trump's vote... But that shit happens in every election, people need to wake up and smell the coffee - this dude's gonna be in the oval office soon, deal with it.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: prince V on January 04, 2017, 05:25:51 AM
Has he started working on changes he promised like building wall with the neighbouring country and deporting muslims or reducing tax to 15%?
Or the ideas were to just attract voters?


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 04, 2017, 05:30:34 AM
Has he started working on changes he promised like building wall with the neighbouring country and deporting muslims or reducing tax to 15%?
Or the ideas were to just attract voters?


Really? You sound like CNN. He has never talked about deporting muslims. We will have to wait and see, he has not even been swarn in yet. Slow your roll.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on January 04, 2017, 05:34:40 AM
biased media to try and increase Trump's vote...

The media was biased towards Hillary and not towards Trump. CNN/BBC/MSNBC tried very hard to demonize Trump. Even Google played dirty tricks by showing only links from the rabidly leftist Vox while searching for Trump in their news site.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Xester on January 04, 2017, 11:44:22 AM
Trump did not cheated in the Elections. Its just that the other political party cannot accept their losses as they already spent millions of dollars to increase their popularity yet they still lost the elections. This chaos that you speak of is an orchestrated chaos, Clinton and his group is a master in scheming chaos to make their rivals take and suffer the blame. They even have big connections and control over the media to make sure that everything was to be blamed to trump.

American people are not dumb they are tired of a plastic government ruled by oligarchs who controls society and destroys those who oppose them and enjoys the benefits and riches they can get from the government.

Trump winning the election is a sign that people want to take risk on a new kind of government hoping for a new change.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: deadsilent on January 04, 2017, 12:53:56 PM
A win is a win. The election is finished already. You should move on now. Im not american but to debate for this. Its totally nonsense. We cant bring back the time to change everything. Trump won the election you should respect that. Lets just watch if Trump is really worth of your trust.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: mainpmf on January 04, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
Fact is that it doesn't even really matter if he cheated or not. Remember Algore and Bush? Nothing can be as dubious and shady as Bush victory here.
But the fact is that Americans didn't really care or at least not enough. And no institution or media took the lead to investigate any furter.

Might be because of Bush family influence in private medias maybe...


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Gyro on January 04, 2017, 03:02:22 PM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

I doubt Donald had the influence to cheat. Meanwhile the democrats cheated. Their own request for a recount exposed them.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: chachaa on January 04, 2017, 05:00:59 PM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

I doubt Donald had the influence to cheat. Meanwhile the democrats cheated. Their own request for a recount exposed them.
Donald trump dumb and dumber. I doubt that he could rig the elections. But Russia could. Trump is Putin's last chance to retain power in Russia. If he does not agree about the friendship with trump that we will witness a collapse of Russia.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Tyrantt on January 04, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
Has he started working on changes he promised like building wall with the neighbouring country and deporting muslims or reducing tax to 15%?
Or the ideas were to just attract voters?


Really? You sound like CNN. He has never talked about deporting muslims. We will have to wait and see, he has not even been swarn in yet. Slow your roll.

It's funny how people can't even read today.. so I will point it again. He never said he will be deporting anyone but Illegal immigrants, since they're breaking the law.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Tyrantt on January 04, 2017, 06:53:38 PM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

I doubt Donald had the influence to cheat. Meanwhile the democrats cheated. Their own request for a recount exposed them.
Donald trump dumb and dumber. I doubt that he could rig the elections. But Russia could. Trump is Putin's last chance to retain power in Russia. If he does not agree about the friendship with trump that we will witness a collapse of Russia.

Well he has a multi billion business going on, what do you have? Ah yes, the Russia, the worlds greatest enemy (according to Democrats). I'll send you a guide on How To Make a Tinfoil Hat.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Prohodimec on January 04, 2017, 07:14:34 PM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

I doubt Donald had the influence to cheat. Meanwhile the democrats cheated. Their own request for a recount exposed them.
Donald trump dumb and dumber. I doubt that he could rig the elections. But Russia could. Trump is Putin's last chance to retain power in Russia. If he does not agree about the friendship with trump that we will witness a collapse of Russia.

Well he has a multi billion business going on, what do you have? Ah yes, the Russia, the worlds greatest enemy (according to Democrats). I'll send you a guide on How To Make a Tinfoil Hat.
Russia really the enemy. And no one in this no doubt. Russian has always been the main enemy of America, and most of all with Russia fought the Republicans. Even if the Russians bought Trump Congress will not allow him to destroy the protection from Russia, which is building a generation of Americans.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: inlovewith on January 04, 2017, 07:58:38 PM
Donald Trump's victory, a remarkable accomplishment. Donald Trump has been famous throughout all my life, and I just cannot describe how odd it is that he became President. It's as if Scott Baio became President.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: sergeyzol on January 04, 2017, 08:03:13 PM
Donald Trump's victory, a remarkable accomplishment.
What's the achievement? Did you really believe him? What will he do? He promises to return business to America! How? If the same product is produced in America and China will be different! Who will buy the product more?


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: joebrook on January 04, 2017, 08:19:15 PM
Reount was done in one state and no signs of irregularities was proven


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: btvlGainer on January 04, 2017, 08:30:56 PM
Reount was done in one state and no signs of irregularities was proven
To catch a thief need only at the moment when he commits a crime. Then to prove that either is difficult. Let's wait for Friday. On Friday, the Director of the CIA promised to provide a report on the investigation of crimes of Russia. May be something new to learn.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 04, 2017, 10:01:30 PM
Reount was done in one state and no signs of irregularities was proven
To catch a thief need only at the moment when he commits a crime. Then to prove that either is difficult. Let's wait for Friday. On Friday, the Director of the CIA promised to provide a report on the investigation of crimes of Russia. May be something new to learn.

The CIA Director has urged caution in the US response to Russia. There is no evidence other than what a few agencies are saying that Russia "hacked" the DNC. There are conflicting reports between them. The documents were LEAKED to Wikileaks from someone within the DNC, not Russia. Either way, the election results will not be changed no matter how much the left tries to delegitimize the president-elect. Trump will be the president in 16 days.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: criptix on January 04, 2017, 10:06:47 PM
russia hacked the election for sure.
dont trust the russian communist agents!  ;)


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: prince V on January 05, 2017, 04:39:20 AM
Reount was done in one state and no signs of irregularities was proven
To catch a thief need only at the moment when he commits a crime. Then to prove that either is difficult. Let's wait for Friday. On Friday, the Director of the CIA promised to provide a report on the investigation of crimes of Russia. May be something new to learn.

The CIA Director has urged caution in the US response to Russia. There is no evidence other than what a few agencies are saying that Russia "hacked" the DNC. There are conflicting reports between them. The documents were LEAKED to Wikileaks from someone within the DNC, not Russia. Either way, the election results will not be changed no matter how much the left tries to delegitimize the president-elect. Trump will be the president in 16 days.
i think after 16 days a new usa with some cool drastic changes will be visible.
1st good change he will be making is removing h1b visa so increasing job opportunities for usa people.second thing he is deporting muslims and the most imp is reducing tax to 15% and will build wall with the neighbouring terror bound mexico
if these changes he really makes then it will be complete new usa


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sundark on January 05, 2017, 05:22:54 AM
russia hacked the election for sure.
dont trust the russian communist agents!  ;)
Yeah, next time US should hack Russian election to get even! /sarcasm

I wonder if Hillary would win this election instead of Trump people would still cry and complain about hacks.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 05, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
The CIA Director has urged caution in the US response to Russia. There is no evidence other than what a few agencies are saying that Russia "hacked" the DNC. There are conflicting reports between them. The documents were LEAKED to Wikileaks from someone within the DNC, not Russia. Either way, the election results will not be changed no matter how much the left tries to delegitimize the president-elect. Trump will be the president in 16 days.
i think after 16 days a new usa with some cool drastic changes will be visible.
1st good change he will be making is removing h1b visa so increasing job opportunities for usa people.second thing he is deporting muslims and the most imp is reducing tax to 15% and will build wall with the neighbouring terror bound mexico
if these changes he really makes then it will be complete new usa

He WILL NOT be deporting Muslims, I do not know where you have heard this... the extremists are the problem. He said he will obliterate ISIS, and radical islam in the country. There are Muslims in his administration for goodness sake. On another note, I do agree there will be some drastic changes coming soon -- hopefully for the better.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: novemberwoah on January 05, 2017, 07:46:01 AM
The chaos after the election of Donald Trump as president of the United States because they do not agree with Trump victory. Perhaps there is an indication if Trump cheating, I was also suspicious of it. He has a lot of acquaintances that support to go forward and we knew he was having a lot of wealth. Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: btvlGainer on January 05, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
The chaos after the election of Donald Trump as president of the United States because they do not agree with Trump victory. Perhaps there is an indication if Trump cheating, I was also suspicious of it. He has a lot of acquaintances that support to go forward and we knew he was having a lot of wealth. Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.
I am also sure that Trump will be the President and no re-election will not. The CIA was not able to assess the situation with a victory this clown. Also, if Trump really is sold in Russia, where is the evidence from the CIA?


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 05, 2017, 04:19:09 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: wowanstrong on January 05, 2017, 04:27:17 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: gabmen on January 05, 2017, 04:34:15 PM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?
I disagree. This happens all the time during elections that when a party loses, almost automatically the winning party cheated, I think trump won fair and square, and although i personally am not in favor of him as well, it's already done and over with so it's time for us to move on and just try to help him improve the nation for the next 4 years. And I don't think there's any way the results can be reversed now right? So I think let's just do our part in all this for us to have a better future. It starts with that


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 05, 2017, 04:35:13 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

Obama was a disgrace to Americans. He increased our national debt 68%, $7.9 Trillion. In the last 8 years, he has increased the debt more than all presidents from George Washington through George H.W. Bush combined. This will be passed on to my generation and my children--that right there is a disgrace. He has also sent our race relations back to the 60's in America, he has divided the nation along every line. The majority of Americans felt we needed a businessman in office that knows how to make deals and get our nation into a better security, economic, education and logical standing. Although he is not extremely educated when it comes to politics, he has many quality advisors coming alongside him to guide his decisions.  


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on January 05, 2017, 04:59:17 PM
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

It was a two-way race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. If I was an American citizen, then I would have chosen Trump. Not because of any of his qualities, but due to a desire to keep out Hillary.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: v1ryspro on January 05, 2017, 05:09:31 PM
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

It was a two-way race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. If I was an American citizen, then I would have chosen Trump. Not because of any of his qualities, but due to a desire to keep out Hillary.
If I were an American citizen I would never vote for such an idiot like Trump. I am ashamed that in America such a President. I think that if the Congress time does not stop, then the Americans may have problems.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Daniel91 on January 05, 2017, 05:15:26 PM
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

It was a two-way race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. If I was an American citizen, then I would have chosen Trump. Not because of any of his qualities, but due to a desire to keep out Hillary.
If I were an American citizen I would never vote for such an idiot like Trump. I am ashamed that in America such a President. I think that if the Congress time does not stop, then the Americans may have problems.

America is greatest democracy in the world, already more than 200 years old, great nation and people,and America will survive Trump, do not worry :)
It's fact that average Americans lost faith in politics.
In the past they heard many lies from politicians and many Americans have suffered or been killed in unjust wars, because of the lies of American politicians and President.
It's obvious that this time Americans voted against political establishment, and their representative Hillary.
So, Trump was obvious choice for many.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: yuiyuga on January 05, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

It was a two-way race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. If I was an American citizen, then I would have chosen Trump. Not because of any of his qualities, but due to a desire to keep out Hillary.
If I were an American citizen I would never vote for such an idiot like Trump. I am ashamed that in America such a President. I think that if the Congress time does not stop, then the Americans may have problems.

America is greatest democracy in the world, already more than 200 years old, great nation and people,and America will survive Trump, do not worry :)
It's fact that average Americans lost faith in politics.
In the past they heard many lies from politicians and many Americans have suffered or been killed in unjust wars, because of the lies of American politicians and President.
It's obvious that this time Americans voted against political establishment, and their representative Hillary.
So, Trump was obvious choice for many.

I don't understand how you could vote for this idiot! I think that for him could only vote for the same idiots like himself. I didn't even think that in America so many of them. I'm sorry but all suffer.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on January 06, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
If I were an American citizen I would never vote for such an idiot like Trump. I am ashamed that in America such a President. I think that if the Congress time does not stop, then the Americans may have problems.

The American voters are not idiots, and they have selected a person, whom they think is best suited for the job. As I can see, you are from the Eastern Europe. You can voice your opinion, but at the same time, you must accept the outcome of the elections.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: TicTacTic on January 06, 2017, 09:46:17 AM
If I were an American citizen I would never vote for such an idiot like Trump. I am ashamed that in America such a President. I think that if the Congress time does not stop, then the Americans may have problems.

The American voters are not idiots, and they have selected a person, whom they think is best suited for the job. As I can see, you are from the Eastern Europe. You can voice your opinion, but at the same time, you must accept the outcome of the elections.
Nobody argues with the opinion of American voters, I just also think that Trump is a mistake. The crisis of democracy! I don't care who's President in America, but we should not forget that Hitler and Putin were also chosen by the people. What it led to we see.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on January 06, 2017, 12:24:31 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

He was capable of easily out-debating world class speakers like Ted Cruz during the selection of the Republican candidate, but he's "not smart enough?"


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: TicTacTic on January 06, 2017, 12:31:01 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

He was capable of easily out-debating world class speakers like Ted Cruz during the selection of the Republican candidate, but he's "not smart enough?"
Now nothing to do. Will have to endure at least 4 years. I hope Trump will be wise enough to listen to normal advisers and not to destroy America. 2016 generally brought continuous disappointments. God forbid 2017 will be better.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on January 06, 2017, 01:51:23 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.

He was capable of easily out-debating world class speakers like Ted Cruz during the selection of the Republican candidate, but he's "not smart enough?"
Now nothing to do. Will have to endure at least 4 years. I hope Trump will be wise enough to listen to normal advisers and not to destroy America. 2016 generally brought continuous disappointments. God forbid 2017 will be better.
All true.  We'll be looking at what happens if you elect a businessman as president instead of a politico.  Could be both good and bad to that, of course.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: novemberwoah on January 06, 2017, 01:51:48 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: tracktorr on January 06, 2017, 04:00:41 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on January 06, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

Well, my friend.  We shall see, won't we?

There is almost no need to try to forecast things.  It starts in two weeks.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: BADecker on January 06, 2017, 11:47:32 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

Same people who check Obama's birth certificate.    ;D


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on January 07, 2017, 06:17:08 AM
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

His income tax returns have been carefully audited and checked by the IRS. So it is safe to assume that he never earned money using illegal methods. The same can't be said about Hillary Clinton, who received tens of millions of USD in the form of bribes (shown as "donations" for the Clinton foundation, and fees for the speeches).


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: criptix on January 07, 2017, 06:35:01 AM
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

His income tax returns have been carefully audited and checked by the IRS. So it is safe to assume that he never earned money using illegal methods. The same can't be said about Hillary Clinton, who received tens of millions of USD in the form of bribes (shown as "donations" for the Clinton foundation, and fees for the speeches).

Hillary was checked by the same IRS with the only difference that she released it to the public.
Trump did not.

Btw. Prepared for trillions of new $ printing? Someone has to pay for that communist autobahn and so on Lol

Also I'm forecasting a huge export drop with the rising dollar and canceling of trade agreements.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Kevinde on January 07, 2017, 06:42:00 AM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

yes, He is a great master of social media and election campaign with russian helps. The USA will be in chaos due to Trump.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: mainpmf on January 07, 2017, 10:54:08 AM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

Well, my friend.  We shall see, won't we?

There is almost no need to try to forecast things.  It starts in two weeks.

Agreed... It's useless to try to guess the future from now unless you have immediate projects.
I don't like him and I don't think he'll be a good leader.
But who cares? Whatever I think and believe it won't change anything! He comes in 2 weeks and there is nothing that can be done so... :/


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: BADecker on January 07, 2017, 12:47:30 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

Well, my friend.  We shall see, won't we?

There is almost no need to try to forecast things.  It starts in two weeks.

Agreed... It's useless to try to guess the future from now unless you have immediate projects.
I don't like him and I don't think he'll be a good leader.
But who cares? Whatever I think and believe it won't change anything! He comes in 2 weeks and there is nothing that can be done so... :/

I believe that God is controlling the Government, and who is elected.

8)


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: varyspro on January 07, 2017, 12:54:12 PM
Why was so much chaos after donal trumph won the election?why did he say no for recount?was there any cheating invloved behind his victory as all rumors say?Or did his tax benefits, job for whites... promises gave him victory?

yes, He is a great master of social media and election campaign with russian helps. The USA will be in chaos due to Trump.

Trump is very stupid. That is why Russia and made a bet on his victory. Invested money in a hacker attack, used their purchased politicians. Now there only hope for the Congress and the Senate.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: yoseph on January 07, 2017, 03:02:44 PM
It was not a cheat, Hilary should have focused on the electoral college system rather than the number of votes gained.furthermore there was a recount in one of the states and it showed little to no irregularities.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 07, 2017, 03:48:06 PM
It makes me laugh that most of the people commenting negative things about Trump do not even live in the United States. The majority of the American people voted for him because they were tired of the crap that has been going on. Trump actually has some great policy.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: yuiyuga on January 07, 2017, 04:14:49 PM
It makes me laugh that most of the people commenting negative things about Trump do not even live in the United States. The majority of the American people voted for him because they were tired of the crap that has been going on. Trump actually has some great policy.
I'm going break the pattern. Or am I a fool or America has gone mad. Give me one clever idea Trump. I certainly agree that this is a matter exclusively of Americans what they will have a President, but I am ashamed for them.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: devthedev on January 07, 2017, 04:51:38 PM
It makes me laugh that most of the people commenting negative things about Trump do not even live in the United States. The majority of the American people voted for him because they were tired of the crap that has been going on. Trump actually has some great policy.
I'm going break the pattern. Or am I a fool or America has gone mad. Give me one clever idea Trump. I certainly agree that this is a matter exclusively of Americans what they will have a President, but I am ashamed for them.
  • Repealing and Replacing the broken Obamacare.
  • Stripping federal funding of Planned Parenthood (an organization that murders 300,000 babies yearly)
  • Securing the border
  • Simplification of the tax brackets
  • Defending the Second Amendment (and all the constitution for the matter, something the Obama admin. has not done too well with.)
  • Rebulding the miliary
  • An agressive approach towards ISIS and Islamic Extremism
...and much more.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Johensen on January 07, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
I believe on Trump victory and I hope Trump needs to have a tough attitude with China and Russia.
If He does not do that , The US America will get difficulty about everything such as economy, peace, a great America.
I believe that Just only the United States has enough power to control the world .


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on January 09, 2017, 08:59:32 AM
It makes me laugh that most of the people commenting negative things about Trump do not even live in the United States. The majority of the American people voted for him because they were tired of the crap that has been going on. Trump actually has some great policy.

You know the reason, right? Trump wants to keep the factory jobs in the United States. Already Ford has cancelled plans for a billion dollar factory in Mexico. Non-Americans are losing out from the Trump presidency. So it is not surprising to see so many of them badmouthing Trump.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Perle on January 09, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
It makes me laugh that most of the people commenting negative things about Trump do not even live in the United States. The majority of the American people voted for him because they were tired of the crap that has been going on. Trump actually has some great policy.

You know the reason, right? Trump wants to keep the factory jobs in the United States. Already Ford has cancelled plans for a billion dollar factory in Mexico. Non-Americans are losing out from the Trump presidency. So it is not surprising to see so many of them badmouthing Trump.
A typical point of view that is imposed by Russian trolls! The fact that Ford has frozen investment in Mexico, nothing says. If you said that Ford the money invested in American enterprise it would be quite another. And so it's just an attempt campaigning for Trump.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: prince V on February 02, 2017, 06:12:55 PM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Mersedes on February 02, 2017, 06:41:19 PM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on February 02, 2017, 11:03:40 PM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: criptix on February 03, 2017, 12:00:34 AM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer :)

Import tariffs are just a distraction because he would need to quit the WTO.

Also dont talk about taking debt. Donald wants to half the 20 trillion debt in his term ::)


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on February 03, 2017, 12:53:47 AM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer :)....

That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.



Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on February 03, 2017, 01:46:04 AM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: criptix on February 03, 2017, 04:19:19 AM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer :)....

That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.



I guess it wasnt obvious but i was talking about the financing of the tax reduction.

The annual corporate tax revenue of the US is around 400 billion $.
A reduction from 35 to 10% would mean an average tax revenue loss of 280 billion $.

You dont actually believe everyone will start to sell 3x more (or buy 3x times more) stuff or?

Economics is not that simple like donalds wants it to be - atleast if you dont have a billionaire daddy.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: criptix on February 03, 2017, 04:23:51 AM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: btvlGainer on February 03, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.
Where will more jobs for Americans? They will go to work on those places that take Mexican? Or agree to work for a salary? The Americans will face collapse. Trump is a foolish and dangerous idiot!


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on February 03, 2017, 12:16:29 PM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Kvazimoda on February 03, 2017, 12:26:47 PM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.
If transport costs are included in the cost of oversized cargo then that is one thing. But if transport costs are divided for example on the truck with accessories for computers it is a completely different situation.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Spendulus on February 04, 2017, 03:04:59 AM
We can see now that trumps victory was not a cheat.He was ellected by people to save the americans job which he promised.As no american likes muslim and as wanted to pull them away from country which trump promised and he did so was the reason for his victory.

Trump promised a lot of things so what? To build a wall to expel from the country migrants is more he can do, but how it will enable the Americans to get new jobs? He's lying. Not all of it is understood.

It's okay if you don't understand it all.

As for the jobs, we've already seen him cause IIRC a couple hundred thousand jobs to stay in the US instead of move to other countries.  One deal at a time.

For corporate tax reduction (35% to 15%).

And guess whos gonna pay that: the american tax payer :)....

That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.



I guess it wasnt obvious but i was talking about the financing of the tax reduction.

The annual corporate tax revenue of the US is around 400 billion $.
A reduction from 35 to 10% would mean an average tax revenue loss of 280 billion $.


You dont actually believe everyone will start to sell 3x more (or buy 3x times more) stuff or?

Economics is not that simple like donalds wants it to be - atleast if you dont have a billionaire daddy.
Add one factory job to a town, that means 4-5x that much economic activity in the town.  Think of it as 4 more jobs in service industries.  Each of those does involve the government receipt of taxes.  Well, most of them.  Some areas do have large black markets.

I don't see a net loss at all, assuming there is an increase in manufacturing jobs.  


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on February 04, 2017, 07:24:02 AM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.

In most of the cases, people wouldn't mind paying 4% or 5% extra, if that means that millions of new jobs are created in the country. Also, It is unethical to import anything manufactured using $2 per day slave labor, be it from Mexico, or be it from India.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: prince V on February 04, 2017, 07:48:46 AM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.

In most of the cases, people wouldn't mind paying 4% or 5% extra, if that means that millions of new jobs are created in the country. Also, It is unethical to import anything manufactured using $2 per day slave labor, be it from Mexico, or be it from India.
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: varyspro on February 04, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
That's wrong.  Corporate taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer base in the form of higher prices for goods.  Lower corporate taxes directly means lower prices on consumer goods, which means higher consumption, more manufacturing, etc.

Economics isn't always intuitive, I guess.

In addition to that it means more jobs to the legal residents of the United States. Attracted by the lower corporate tax, more and more manufacturing units will move to the US. This means more jobs + more tax revenues for the treasury.


No. The US has a minimum wage of 10+$, social securities and enviroment protection laws.
Lowering corporate tax wont make them competitive with mexico, india, china and other emerging countries.
Of course it is only one factor.   Depends on the nature of the goods, too.  In certain cases high freight costs  are a factor.

In most of the cases, people wouldn't mind paying 4% or 5% extra, if that means that millions of new jobs are created in the country. Also, It is unethical to import anything manufactured using $2 per day slave labor, be it from Mexico, or be it from India.
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.
Even now a large percentage of America's economy is not production and service. If Trump will bring their ideas to life, the production will decrease even more. In the labour market there should be competition.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Sithara007 on February 04, 2017, 01:00:29 PM
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.

Trump is just removing the unfair competition between the corporations and their unfair practices. Recently, the tech companies fired a large number of American tech professionals, replacing them with low-paid staff from China and India. This can't continue.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: BitcSeo on February 04, 2017, 01:43:09 PM
The CIA Director has urged caution in the US response to Russia. There is no evidence other than what a few agencies are saying that Russia "hacked" the DNC. There are conflicting reports between them. The documents were LEAKED to Wikileaks from someone within the DNC, not Russia. Either way, the election results will not be changed no matter how much the left tries to delegitimize the president-elect. Trump will be the president in 16 days.
i think after 16 days a new usa with some cool drastic changes will be visible.
1st good change he will be making is removing h1b visa so increasing job opportunities for usa people.second thing he is deporting muslims and the most imp is reducing tax to 15% and will build wall with the neighbouring terror bound mexico
if these changes he really makes then it will be complete new usa

He WILL NOT be deporting Muslims, I do not know where you have heard this... the extremists are the problem. He said he will obliterate ISIS, and radical islam in the country. There are Muslims in his administration for goodness sake. On another note, I do agree there will be some drastic changes coming soon -- hopefully for the better.


☞@devthedev, now HE (TRUMP or TRAP) is doing that. dated 04.02.2017

☞Well, as confuse as he is, he has to start from somewhere, atleast by fighting against immigrant or muslim.

He think being in the whitehouse is that easy.

OBAMA added 15 pound when he left the whitehouse. Let watch for TRAP.

Thanks


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: wowanstrong on February 04, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.

Trump is just removing the unfair competition between the corporations and their unfair practices. Recently, the tech companies fired a large number of American tech professionals, replacing them with low-paid staff from China and India. This can't continue.
You contradict yourself. When it comes to high-quality specialists, as they can be replaced uneducated workers from China and India? There is another reason. Low-skilled workers from America lost the competition to the Chinese and the Indians.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: criptix on February 04, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
Think always of long time not short time.Millions of new jobs creation will just be a dream.More manufacturing units will not move in but just move out.amazon microsoft expedia google infosys and other tech giants getting affected.
Might be he will look as hero for americans by what he is trying to do for them but this is not the correct way to do it  and is going to lead only to unexpected problems.
Just know a fact our god has created a big world and US is just a small piece of land.
Might be now everybody is thinking that something good happened by donald trump becoming president but in spam of 4 yrs they will realize hard earned money wasted on wall and all techies and jobs moving away but donalds word will become true of 'lets bring back old america again' as it will happen because  US will be 20yrs behind of remaining world.

Trump is just removing the unfair competition between the corporations and their unfair practices. Recently, the tech companies fired a large number of American tech professionals, replacing them with low-paid staff from China and India. This can't continue.
You contradict yourself. When it comes to high-quality specialists, as they can be replaced uneducated workers from China and India? There is another reason. Low-skilled workers from America lost the competition to the Chinese and the Indians.

Haleluja. I gotta tell my boss that we can replace all 100€/hour white collar workers with 1€/hour chinese and inidian peasants.

Btw you call it slave labor in china not because of their wages (their avg income is 15 k $ per year) but because of very low social standards, bad worker and enviroment protection laws.


The truth is the US are lying to themself.
They just overslept and have a systemic problem which made their manufacturing go south.

Look at germanys manufacturing. This is still one of the main job drivers.

And btw currency manipulation is bullock, germany was already one of the biggest export nation under the deutsche mark.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: birareru1988 on February 04, 2017, 04:31:27 PM
In Germany, one of the world's largest Turkish communities. They are Muslims and yet they are perfectly assimilated into German society. What can be said about France. They are unable to cope with their Muslim, I'm not even talking about immigrants.


Title: Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat
Post by: Mersedes on February 04, 2017, 06:33:36 PM
In Germany, one of the world's largest Turkish communities. They are Muslims and yet they are perfectly assimilated into German society. What can be said about France. They are unable to cope with their Muslim, I'm not even talking about immigrants.
Trump you idiot! He doesn't understand what to do as President. It seems to me that he thinks the presidency is like a game of monopoly. Clown! A competent immigration policy can only help America.