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The open scammer database will be a website where you can search for emails, websites, Bitcointalk users, Skype accounts and so on. The website then checks this data against a huge database of accounts and algorithms and then says if it is safe to trade with the person you searched. You will also be able to submit scammer reports and positive trading feedback.

Yes. You can send bitcoin donations to 1Kv2S5t5Ng3EKdD6v7j18kqFyoJ43Q2uys every transaction sent there will be used to pay stuff for OSDB.

Just ask me via thread reply, PM or Skype (matthias_merkel1).

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Someone's already tried this.. but nobody really goes to these sites.. your main challenge is getting people to notice it because there's
always a vast abundance of scammers in bitcointalk alone! :DD

Well... Ad banners may be bidden for if enough donations come together. Also I just hope that some people will submit scammers and some people will use it to check accounts. Also I doubt someone has created something like this. This will use AI and machine learning technology to identify scammers itself, too.

It would still be a pretty useful resource if it could be maintained properly for a long time. I'm just thinking that it would be easier to find patterns to connect certain scammers aliases.

The main issue though is that good scammers will use different methods to avoid detection, so even if one of their aliases ends up in this database, they just switch to another one. Most scammers have built a number of fake personas to avoid detection and to switch if needed.

I haven't seen anything like this before but that's not saying it doesn't exist. I think it's a good idea and it should help people avoid scammers. Once you have a good database it'll be easy to find people via bitcoin addresses, emails or whatever.

The site will use machine learning. It will learn itself to find patterns to identify scammers. It's not only a database.

Well.. do you have a prototype or something? At least a background? You can't just ask for donations before showing anything.. lol.

It is a great idea to launch this type of website as now a days user are always in a hurry and want everything to be done very fastly and easily so that they can do maximum work in the less time.........so if a user can get all the stuff to done at one place that he/she wants to do online can prefer that place.......but to get a better response for the website the website should have a attracting things that gets the attention of the users & website should allow the user to access there database more easily & securily. Then this idea will be a great idea!!!

I already got one donation :D. But yeah. I have a lot of projects using machine learning. Also the coming soon page is up now :D Some infrastructure is up, too. For example one server only for the database, one server for the web frontend and the nameservers. Our page can be found at https://osdb.pw . There will also come a download of the database in text format if someone wants to analyse all data we have. That download will contain our whole database but system related stuff.

I like the way you have elaborated stuff "website then checks this data against a huge database of accounts and algorithms and then says if it is safe to trade with the person you searched" lol,nothing fancy really.You store email addresses of a scam artist into your database and on "true" search results you display them with a fancy message "Do Not Deal With them".The idea is nice,except scammers are smart enough to use different set of information for every scam the attempt espeically if they see such this exists.

If the database is 'open' that means anyone will be able to add and edit entries? I find it highly problematic - this tool can be abused and used as smearing tool to discredit business/personal opponents.
How exactly you want to monitor and moderate accusations - and verify which are solid and real, when anyone can add something to this database, without being verified first?

Wasnt there already badbitcoin around? This is more less the same option.

This is extremely advanced. I really doubt this was already there. Also it doesn't matter :D


Of course not everyone can write to it without verifying that they were scammed.

Yup, and no one even visits the site :/
Its UI looks bad too :/

You could ask theymos to integrate the site into bitcointalk. You will get a lot of visibility, and hundreds upon thousands of users calling and editing your database.

However you need the site to look good and function despite people trying to manipulate the database. You could try a blockchain approach.

That's right. Also I would like to be allowed to crawl some stuff like scam accusations so they can be saved in the databased. How should I contact him best?

I don't think theymos would cooperate for this project since he is busy for another things here in this furom and maybe the best thing you can do for now is to ask those moderators about some scamming incident issue here, or much better for you to sig up some dead scam threads so you would see for your self the past scam issue right here.

This site out or nah?

It will come soon and a form to already submot scammers will come today.

Also to all Legendary and Hero members interested: You will have the possibility of getting an account that can submit scammers without approval. Please pm me if interested

Non approval not a good idea. There is may trolls that are high ranks on this site.
Also anyone can buy hero or legend accounts pretty cheap to smear peoples rep.
Also depending on where you live doxing is illegal so you will have to make sure people arent posting home addresses ssn's family member info.
But thats only if your in a country you can be charged with hosting dox data.

its a good idea but will require thorough investigation in each on every entry added on your database, you dont want an innocent people posted there. Valid Proofs with screenshot, web archive and forums post.

I check everyone applying.


Sure

A beta is now up at https://osdb.pw . It has not all functionality it will have later but at least it is usable. Please consider helping us in the following ways:
1. Report scammers at https://osdb.pw/submit-scammer.html
2. Report trusted people at https://osdb.pw/submit-trusted.html
3. Donate to Bitcoin address 1EdcuFEiydpE7MbxeeG4wN6dd68KDvDZt6 . It really helps us keeping OSDB running and updated and making it better.

Maybe a recent submits list that have been approved would be good.
That way people know who to watch out for.

Give me five minutes ;) A download will come soon, too.

Alright, looks okay tho haven't seen any issues on the site so good job on that.

Added. Please be sure to help us by submitting people, too ;)

except the submit as trusted. this will somehow confuse the system if a scammer submit themselves as trusted while they get listed as scammer. why is there the need for that trusted?

will you link the scammer to the threads where the scam incident happen?

I am currently working on adding a reference field to the submits. Also all submits are manually reviewed. That way it is impossible a scammer can set them as trusted. In theory (because of the way the system is coded) an entry in the database trusted counts higher than one in the database scammer.)

Reference has been added to Scammer Reports

great. it wouldn't be reasonable if we just add them to the databae without the reference as to what they did. this will also help someone who could be tracking them and what they did in the past.

my suggestion is to add a blog on how to dox a scammer. it will help us serve as "how to.."

Doxxing is forbidden in the country I live so that won't happen ;)

We already cover 120 scammer entries and 12 trusted entries. WOW!

Yeah there is many scammers in the btc community prob thousands so your list is going to grow fast.

And yeah its best to stay away from doxxing its many years in prison is some places.

Also is the trusted list people who can be trusted? if so its should be submit trusted people not report.

Yes it is. I will fix that today.

Okay that's odd, how does submit to trusted work?
I'd love to help out though. Submitting a few entries on scammers..

Just submit people you trust at https://osdb.pw/submit-trusted.html
I do lookups on submitted people and then decide if I add them or not.

It's really cool you help us. It sounds a bit odd but that is how you see I don't do this for donations (which in this case are only used for the site anyways): Submitting scammers is as useful as donating.

I will also PM you more informations about helping us as I have an idea.

Wait, didn't you announce this already? oh my bad now this is in development phase, but people never trade with random strangers on skype or places like this forum and mostly they get to know about a deal here and then they might meet up in skype and the forum has a trust system I know it's far from anything perfect but still the feedback coments are in there by DT members or not.
I could go in several forums and scam people with the name of "satoshi" and what happens someone search it? it will just confuses people.
Not to mention the never ending complaints about unfair and false accusations. and in a forum you should trade with trusted members anyways so their trust has to be established somehow for this forum works with trust system.

Please read the whole thread. This is something tweaked. And it's not even done yet. I only worked on it one day.

All databases but the submission database are downloadable by anyone now: https://osdb.pw/download.html

I'm locking this thread as a new thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743257.0) has been created in Service Announcements. Everything should be posted in that thread from now on.