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Title: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: LibertyHunter on January 11, 2017, 08:44:52 PM
Hi i am in the middle of a trade right now and it is taking too long because i messed up with a low transaction fee.  It's urgent as the price of bitcoin is falling pretty fast and I am willing to pay quite a bit of money to have this problem solved if someone could forward the transaction.  The transaction ID is: 0a7e4110b66f97e264219b04511a2ef4df8a767d863cd35dd113b7dce973e20e-000


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: lolxxxx on January 11, 2017, 08:51:16 PM
Well yes you have putted a low fees you must've sent your transaction with at least 0.005 or 0.003, 0.001 is a bit low however what I am seeing is that your transaction will get confirm within an hour no need to panic.
And i hope that you will not lose more money.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: LibertyHunter on January 11, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Well yes you have putted a low fees you must've sent your transaction with at least 0.005 or 0.003, 0.001 is a bit low however what I am seeing is that your transaction will get confirm within an hour no need to panic.
And i hope that you will not lose more money.

I hope as it has been 3 and a half hours and still not one confirmation and the price is falling pretty fast.  If it does not confirm in the next hour I am willing to pay someone quite a bit to speed up the transaction.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: lolxxxx on January 11, 2017, 09:01:31 PM
Well yes you have putted a low fees you must've sent your transaction with at least 0.005 or 0.003, 0.001 is a bit low however what I am seeing is that your transaction will get confirm within an hour no need to panic.
And i hope that you will not lose more money.

I hope as it has been 3 and a half hours and still not one confirmation and the price is falling pretty fast.  If it does not confirm in the next hour I am willing to pay someone quite a bit to speed up the transaction.

I don't think so that anyone could do that I checked it and you have many outputs and only 2 inputs.
However your transaction size is 3173 (bytes) which means you have to put 0.003173 fees but you have only put 0.0013992 so you are short of 0.0017738 but that's nothing I have sent many transactions with only 0.0001 and more then 1000 (bytes) and they get confirm in 2-3 blocks.
Lets hope that miner finds your transaction soon.

Next time always use 100 satoshis/byte.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: shield132 on January 11, 2017, 09:08:50 PM
When you are making transaction of so huge amount of money, to my mind it will be better if you'll sacriface 0.005 bitcoin as a transaction fee to feel yourself more secure without many nervous. Maybe that transaction will be confirmed in some hours or in worst situation in some days but If the network has forgotten about the transaction and your wallet is not re-broadcasting it, it may never confirm.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: achow101 on January 11, 2017, 09:09:59 PM
Next time always use 100 satoshis/byte.
No. Do not use a fixed fee rate. If your wallet supports dynamic fees, always use dynamic fees. If your wallet does not support dynamic fees, I recommend that you switch to one that does.

OP, you have a few options. You can wait and hope it either confirms or the network "forgets" about it, contact a miner and ask them to help you, or attempt an RBF double spend transaction.

For the second option, you can contact the users Quickseller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=358020) and macbook-air (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=16114) as they have helped users with this before.

For the third option, we need to know what wallet you are using as it is wallet dependent and also requires some technical skills.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: lolxxxx on January 11, 2017, 09:13:19 PM
Next time always use 100 satoshis/byte.
No. Do not use a fixed fee rate. If your wallet supports dynamic fees, always use dynamic fees. If your wallet does not support dynamic fees, I recommend that you switch to one that does.


Right now its the best option, But it is hard to know the size of transactions before sending. But I will recommend using of 0.005 as fees for such transactions with such big volume.
I'm using Blockchain.info new wallet which automatically changes the transaction fees according to the size of transaction I don't know how much accurate it is but my transaction never been in low priority and the fees is always perfect.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: achow101 on January 11, 2017, 09:16:35 PM
Right now its the best option, But it is hard to know the size of transactions before sending. But I will recommend using of 0.005 as fees for such transactions with such big volume.
I'm using Blockchain.info new wallet which automatically changes the transaction fees according to the size of transaction I don't know how much accurate it is but my transaction never been in low priority and the fees is always perfect.
Again, as I said, use dynamic fees. Fixed fees and fixed fee rates, while they may be applicable now, are not always applicable. In the future you may end up paying too much or too little, depending on the transaction itself and the current state of the network. The wallet is smarter than you and does statistical analysis of previously confirmed transactions to determine the optimal fee rate. The wallet also knows how big the transaction will be because that is something that can be calculated given the number of inputs and outputs for the transaction, information that the wallet knows. Again, use the dynamic fees, do not use fixed fees or fixed fee rates, and please stop recommending that people do that.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: LibertyHunter on January 11, 2017, 09:18:03 PM
Yes I am aware how bad I fucked up. The problem is I started the trade to sell my coins and by the time I realised I didn't leave enough bitcoins in my wallet to send a high transaction fee it was to late.  I am using bitcoin core wallet if that is of any help.  


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: achow101 on January 11, 2017, 09:32:58 PM
Yes I am aware how bad I fucked up. The problem is I started the trade to sell my coins and by the time I realised I didn't leave enough bitcoins in my wallet to send a high transaction fee it was to late.  I am using bitcoin core wallet if that is of any help.  
These are the instructions for making an RBF double spend. You will be essentially resending the transaction but with a higher fee.

Go to the transactions tab. Right click on the transaction in question and choose the option "Abandon Transaction". Then just make the transaction again but this time include a higher fee. Before  you send, click the "Choose..." button next to "Transaction Fee" and choose the "Recommended" option. Then move the slider to the end labeled fast. This will set the transaction fee to be the highest so that it will confirm as quick as possible.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: wmabern on January 12, 2017, 12:47:12 AM
Yes I am aware how bad I fucked up. The problem is I started the trade to sell my coins and by the time I realised I didn't leave enough bitcoins in my wallet to send a high transaction fee it was to late.  I am using bitcoin core wallet if that is of any help.  

Maybe you do not have enough BTC's left in your Core wallet to make another send with higher fees? Is that the case?
Good luck! :)


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: k1r0vv on June 11, 2017, 10:27:32 AM
i made a mistake withdrawing from cryptonator by clicking all amount... and the transaction went out with too low fees. viabtc acceleration says too low fees to take it in the consideration. I tried sending multiple other transactions to same receiver with very high fees... but the miners didn't confirmed the large one aswell. i wrote to cryptonator support maybe they can help.. and asked viatc support if i can pay a fee to take my transaction into consideration.... but so far no answer.

i cant double spend since i dont have another 10k in btc right now.

any ideas pls?

thx

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Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: HCP on June 11, 2017, 11:13:07 AM
I have just attempted to accelerate your transaction via "AntPool"... theoretically, when they next mine a block, your transaction should get a confirmation.

For future reference... you don't execute a "Child Pays For Parent" by sending new transactions TO the same receiver. You need to spend one of the outputs from the stuck transactions ie. you need to be a receiver from the first transaction, and spend one of the unconfirmed transaction outputs with a MASSIVE fee to get a miner to include both transactions.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: k1r0vv on June 11, 2017, 11:21:12 AM
thx a lot my friend... i got it now (child pays:) thing).. how come antpool accepts transactions with less then min fee?
thx again


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: HCP on June 11, 2017, 11:30:17 AM
Your transaction was mined in a block by AntPool... and now has 3 confirmations... you're welcome ;)

Quote
Included In Blocks 470786 ( 2017-06-11 11:21:04 + 1,156 minutes )
Relayed By AntPool

And they don't generally accept transactions with such low fees... so be more careful with your fees next time :P


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: k1r0vv on June 11, 2017, 11:38:47 AM
promise. u live u learn. send me your btc address so i can give couple beers lol


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: coupable on June 11, 2017, 11:42:47 AM
i can't see the transaction properties in the blockchain.info

i wanna reaally understaand the process to send big amounts with very low fees and how it does really works.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: k1r0vv on June 11, 2017, 11:46:43 AM
that's the whole point to fees. miners wont mine it if u pay 2 low fees. mine was an accident, sending with low fees is a some sort of "abuse". i guess u can send it with low fees (minimum) and accelerate it... but thats...


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: HCP on June 11, 2017, 11:52:02 AM
i can't see the transaction properties in the blockchain.info
i wanna reaally understaand the process to send big amounts with very low fees and how it does really works.
You should not attempt to do this unless you really know what you're doing... and the risks involved. There is a very real potential to get all your coins stuck in limbo for a long period of time if you get it wrong.

Besides, if you have "big amounts" what is a hundred thousand satoshis in fees? Just pay a decent fee... get your transaction confirmed quickly... be happy ;)


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: hardcore1 on June 22, 2017, 02:33:35 PM
Hi i need help asap i am new and i have sent a large amout with a low fee rate i shouldnt have done can anyone help?

 Transaction ID:8d2c04e4039ba9430623a374e3bf2ee89ce8f663ffc3954e5cceae594a510316


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: 232drialf on June 22, 2017, 02:54:37 PM
Hi i need help asap i am new and i have sent a large amout with a low fee rate i shouldnt have done can anyone help?

 Transaction ID:8d2c04e4039ba9430623a374e3bf2ee89ce8f663ffc3954e5cceae594a510316

Hello, I added your transaction to antpool and I will try in a few minutes  to viabtc too. Next time try to set up a fee.

Check out this website for more info about setting up a fee: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: WNTD on July 20, 2017, 06:18:35 PM
Hello,

could someone help me with my transaction asap please, I think I sent a too high amount with a too low fee.
Can someone help to push it through I am willing to pay for this service from my online wallet. ID: 1cd74644ba20ffce5ae60aa497c59b8f74a93e9b6f8ce2680fa450248347a5f4

Thank you very much guys!


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: HCP on July 20, 2017, 11:03:39 PM
Amount of BTC transacted is unimportant... It is only the fee "rate" ( calculated in sats/byte or btc/kB) that matters for confirmation time.

Unfortunately, it looks like the network is getting busy again... 30k+ unconfirmed transactions and fees getting up to 200+ sats/byte levels again.

Your transaction is "only" 100 sats/byte... So may be delayed for a bit...

I've accelerated it using ViaBTC tx accelerator and also AntPool.. So, hopefully when either of them mine their next block, your transaction will start confirming :)

EDIT: looks like ViaBTC picked it up :)

Quote
Included In Blocks 476776 ( 2017-07-21 02:00:45 + 544 minutes )
Relayed By ViaBTC


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: Len on July 27, 2017, 10:13:54 AM
I've just done the same thing, sent a large transaction from an old multibit wallet and forgot all about the fees being set too low, don't think I could of edited them anyway.

TXID:      99ab93267912edab9712ee6b7b5b6f97aa9c4c9fe531c73a411c24bd030ae187

Anyone got an idea of how long that will take?  I added it to antpool and viabtc tx accelerators.    Is this likely that I'm going to have to use btc.com accelerator to get this transaction through, don't want it to be stuck August 1st :)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: HCP on July 27, 2017, 01:16:29 PM
Anyone got an idea of how long that will take?  I added it to antpool and viabtc tx accelerators.    Is this likely that I'm going to have to use btc.com accelerator to get this transaction through, don't want it to be stuck August 1st :)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Looks like "just under 2 hours" was the answer to your question... "Included In Blocks 477796 ( 2017-07-27 11:25:53 + 114 minutes )" ;)

I see BTC.com mined it... did you give up waiting and use the BTC.com accelerator? Seems like AntPool and ViaBTC weren't having much luck finding a block around the time your transaction was in the mempool...


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: Len on July 27, 2017, 05:22:03 PM
Just to update, I didn't use btc.com accelerator in the end.  I just left it for a bit and it went through, just a coincidence that btc.com mined it.

Was worried for a moment I think the fee was pretty low. 


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: senndoh on August 24, 2017, 08:22:12 AM
hi..

i did a transaction to transfer from my cryptonator wallet, and the wallet doesnt have option to adjust the tx fee, and now im stucked with unconfirmed transaction. it has been 2 days with no confirmation yet.

i would really2 appreciate if someone could help to get this tx through, i dont mind paying some coffee or even lasagna  ::), just wanna to get it confirmed. the waiting game is too much for me  :-[

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Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: senndoh on August 24, 2017, 10:35:53 PM
hi..

i did a transaction to transfer from my cryptonator wallet, and the wallet doesnt have option to adjust the tx fee, and now im stucked with unconfirmed transaction. it has been 2 days with no confirmation yet.

i would really2 appreciate if someone could help to get this tx through, i dont mind paying some coffee or even lasagna  ::), just wanna to get it confirmed. the waiting game is too much for me  :-[

c9339ae696d12a964ea0e3de242c13bbb5909193954653e69f0fd2f075f1e54c

Case closed..yippie my first btc income!


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: damirko on August 25, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Hi there,

should I do sth. to speed up this transaction or just wait for a few hours more?  I usually don't change transaction fees but this time I mistakenly change it and didn't pay attention...
Last time I sent BTC it took few hours but this is a little bit too long for me:
fba86d70c348df066466c38a1c7c0e94dbc50d2f36825d4c726c7471f17a5ca2
BTW I used Electrum wallet and wanted to send BTC to an exchange
Thanks in advance...
damirko


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: misterbigg on August 26, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
My BTC transaction stuck.. its been more than 30 hours and still unconfirmed

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/f03529be29fde27125bfde763532ba06dbcc1b862296b018a81354cffe25e7be

what shall I do?


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: Deathwing on August 26, 2017, 06:48:06 PM
Hi there,

should I do sth. to speed up this transaction or just wait for a few hours more?  I usually don't change transaction fees but this time I mistakenly change it and didn't pay attention...
Last time I sent BTC it took few hours but this is a little bit too long for me:
fba86d70c348df066466c38a1c7c0e94dbc50d2f36825d4c726c7471f17a5ca2
BTW I used Electrum wallet and wanted to send BTC to an exchange
Thanks in advance...
damirko
My BTC transaction stuck.. its been more than 30 hours and still unconfirmed

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/f03529be29fde27125bfde763532ba06dbcc1b862296b018a81354cffe25e7be

what shall I do?

Accelerated both of your transactions, you can now sit back, relax and wait for a confirmation. Next time try to calculate the amount of byte of your transaction so you can set your fees accordingly, try about 500 sat/b for a while until segwit addresses start to kick in.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: damirko on August 26, 2017, 09:07:28 PM
Hi there,

should I do sth. to speed up this transaction or just wait for a few hours more?  I usually don't change transaction fees but this time I mistakenly change it and didn't pay attention...
Last time I sent BTC it took few hours but this is a little bit too long for me:
fba86d70c348df066466c38a1c7c0e94dbc50d2f36825d4c726c7471f17a5ca2
BTW I used Electrum wallet and wanted to send BTC to an exchange
Thanks in advance...
damirko


Accelerated both of your transactions, you can now sit back, relax and wait for a confirmation. Next time try to calculate the amount of byte of your transaction so you can set your fees accordingly, try about 500 sat/b for a while until segwit addresses start to kick in.

Thank you Sir, very kind of you. Next time, I'll be more cautious.
BR|damirko


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: scorn4sega on November 14, 2017, 09:26:31 PM
I also just sent two transactions of Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and I believe I have too low of fees on both. Really learned a lesson here to check the fees. This wasn't even intentional. At any rate, if anyone could help out, I'd be grateful.

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fa2a76ba982e5e1980a8ea5e38d4a2585ceb3fb4ee7194f1779b5f9e16eb668f

Thank you in advance!


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: HCP on November 15, 2017, 02:15:07 AM
I also just sent two transactions of Bitcoin Cash (BCH)
As far as I'm aware... there are no "accelerator" services available for BCH... I though that was the whole point behind 8meg blocks! :P ::)

transactions shouldn't get stuck because the blocks aren't like to be full, so miners will just include ALL available transactions.


Title: Re: Sent a large amount of bitcoin with low transaction fee.
Post by: simplymieke on November 20, 2017, 09:46:46 AM
Yesterday I found such a program to speed up the confirmation time:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2427049.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2427049.0)
the transaction was confirmed 1.5 hours later
but interestingly, the block was transmitted via ViaBTC.Does this program work through this site?
can it spam your transaction on viaBTC?)